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Missing Malaysia Airlines flight: ... one of 227 passengers 'was using STOLEN passport'
Mirror - UK ^

Posted on 03/08/2014 6:14:25 AM PST by nuconvert

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Louis Maraldi, 37, from Cesena, was named as one of the passengers on board the plane.

However, reports in Italy have confirmed that he was NOT on board and that he had reported his passport stolen last August.

(Excerpt) Read more at mirror.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: austria; cesena; iran; italy; louismaraldi; malaysia; malaysiaairlines; mh370; nicolemeng; philipwood; planecrash; religionofpieces; vietnam; waronterror; yanzhang
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1 posted on 03/08/2014 6:14:25 AM PST by nuconvert
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Passenger manifest

http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/content/dam/mas/master/en/pdf/Malaysia%20Airlines%20Flight%20MH%20370%20Passenger%20Manifest.pdf


2 posted on 03/08/2014 6:15:31 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

It’s just wild-assed guess, but I’d bet such is not uncommon on international flights.


3 posted on 03/08/2014 6:16:34 AM PST by tomkat (3%+1)
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To: nuconvert

Well, the thief got justice it seems.


4 posted on 03/08/2014 6:20:38 AM PST by PaulCruz2016
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To: nuconvert

Why isn’t a lost passport cancelled (in the system)?


5 posted on 03/08/2014 6:20:59 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: PaulCruz2016

He wasn’t necessarily the person who stole it. My guess is, he wasn’t.


6 posted on 03/08/2014 6:24:29 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

It is quite unusual that there would be no distress call, especially when the plane was cruising at altitude. Because of this, I immediately thought terrorist act. A lot of muzzies in that part of the world.


7 posted on 03/08/2014 6:24:50 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Who but a TYRANT shoves down another man's throat what he has exempted himself from?)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

A lot of muzzies everywhere and it only takes one.


8 posted on 03/08/2014 6:26:00 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: PaulCruz2016
Well, the thief got justice it seems.

You miss the point. The thief could be the perp.

9 posted on 03/08/2014 6:27:03 AM PST by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

—Because of this, I immediately thought terrorist act.

Yup
Catastrophic Failure, Abrupt Loss of Cabin Integrity


10 posted on 03/08/2014 6:28:40 AM PST by HangnJudge
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To: The Sons of Liberty
It is quite unusual that there would be no distress call, especially when the plane was cruising at altitude. Because of this, I immediately thought terrorist act. A lot of muzzies in that part of the world.

I thought the same thing. If it had been a mechanical malfunction, there would have been some time for the crew to react and send a distress signal.

11 posted on 03/08/2014 6:29:53 AM PST by GreenHornet
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To: The Sons of Liberty

“It is quite unusual that there would be no distress call, especially when the plane was cruising at altitude. Because of this, I immediately thought terrorist act.”

Me too. And I immediately thought about the knife attacks in the train station in China last week, reportedly perpetrated by Uyghurs.


12 posted on 03/08/2014 6:30:33 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

Hope his family didn’t see the passenger manifest.

Talk about a shock..only to find out he was alive in Italy.


13 posted on 03/08/2014 6:31:21 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: tomkat

I was thinking the same.


14 posted on 03/08/2014 6:32:25 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: HangnJudge

I am going with what happened on the Air France 447 flight. Inexperience, questionable weather and instrumentation problems. By the time they figured out what was going on they couldn’t recover the aircraft.


15 posted on 03/08/2014 6:33:08 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Insurgent Conservative)
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To: GreenHornet

...and there would have been things floating in the water if it was a mechanical failure.


16 posted on 03/08/2014 6:33:12 AM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (Elections have consequences - NOW LOOK what we have to deal with...)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

“It is quite unusual that there would be no distress call, especially when the plane was cruising at altitude. Because of this, I immediately thought terrorist act. A lot of muzzies in that part of the world.”
********************************************************************

It’s not the best idea in the world to fly in a commercial flight where the pilot and copilot have MUSLIM names.


17 posted on 03/08/2014 6:33:23 AM PST by House Atreides
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To: nuconvert

Im surprised that no one has yet taken ..”credit” for the deed, if in fact it was a matter of terrorist mayhem and destruction.


18 posted on 03/08/2014 6:34:18 AM PST by MeshugeMikey (Jesus came to Save not Entertain / Ground John Kerry Now!)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Not saying your suspicions are wrong, but there were no distress calls from that Air France flight that went down in the Atlantic and that was pilot error.


19 posted on 03/08/2014 6:37:00 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: nuconvert
Back when that TWA flight went down in Long Island Sound, it was still in the days when the gov didn't want to worry us about the possibility that it was terrorism by one of those very nice Eygptian pilots.

The question back then was "isn't terrorism even worse if we're not sure what is and is not terrorism"? It's the uncertainty about the inherent safety of things that'll bring us to our knees.

I bring this up because it's the not knowing that's even worse than is having an enemy to blame.

20 posted on 03/08/2014 6:37:04 AM PST by grania
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To: nuconvert

Interesting passenger list.

Two Chinese-American anchor babies were on board. Two children, ages 2 and 4, listed as American. Parents of both used Chinese passports.


21 posted on 03/08/2014 6:37:39 AM PST by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: grania

No one had their Cell Phone on?? (There’s always someone...)

No one did any last minute texts??


22 posted on 03/08/2014 6:39:34 AM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (Elections have consequences - NOW LOOK what we have to deal with...)
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To: nuconvert

Uh Oh. Sum Ting Wong


23 posted on 03/08/2014 6:40:02 AM PST by ImNotLying (The Right To Bear Arms: Making good people helpless won't make bad people harmless!)
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To: nuconvert

When I turned on the morning news, FoxNews was speaking with aviation expert Scott Hamilton.

Hamilton conjectured, based on available information, that ‘some criminal action’ was probably involved.

Apparently, the plane disappeared from radar after a couple of hours in flight, but continued to fly for some time after contact was lost.


24 posted on 03/08/2014 6:42:02 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

Cell phone range is only a few miles


25 posted on 03/08/2014 6:43:17 AM PST by pajama pundit ("SIN is not a family value, either")
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To: TomGuy

“Apparently, the plane disappeared from radar after a couple of hours in flight, but continued to fly for some time after contact was lost.”

Hmmm ...... First I’ve heard that. I wonder if that’s true


26 posted on 03/08/2014 6:43:52 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Flight tracking website flightradar24.com says it lost contact 40 minutes after take off from Kuala Lumpur, not two hours as previously reported.

27 posted on 03/08/2014 6:45:14 AM PST by HangnJudge
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To: pajama pundit

“Cell phone range is only a few miles”

I know, but depending on how far off the coast...

Apparently, no one did.


28 posted on 03/08/2014 6:45:28 AM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (Elections have consequences - NOW LOOK what we have to deal with...)
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To: TomGuy

How do you disappear from radar but continue flying? Turn it off or malfunction of radar?

How do they know it continued flying if no radar and no communication? Based on the oil spills?


29 posted on 03/08/2014 6:45:42 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: TomGuy; null and void; Velveeta; Rushmore Rocks; Oorang; Myrddin; MamaDearest; autumnraine; ...
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Ping.

FoxNews was speaking with aviation expert Scott Hamilton..

Hamilton conjectured, based on available information, that ‘some criminal action’ was probably involved.

Apparently, the plane disappeared from radar after a couple of hours in flight, but continued to fly for some time after contact was lost.

30 posted on 03/08/2014 6:48:10 AM PST by LucyT (If you're NOT paranoid, you don't know what's going on.)
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To: RummyChick

Can’t if it’s traditional RADAR. Can disappear if it’s electronically tracked and the power suddenly went out.


31 posted on 03/08/2014 6:48:17 AM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (Elections have consequences - NOW LOOK what we have to deal with...)
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To: nuconvert

RIP

islamism until demonstrated otherwise.


32 posted on 03/08/2014 6:49:14 AM PST by onedoug
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To: RummyChick

you turn off the radar transponder, ie cease squawking


33 posted on 03/08/2014 6:49:56 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: HangnJudge

What is that dotted line?


34 posted on 03/08/2014 6:50:16 AM PST by bgill
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To: HangnJudge

It’s not unusual for flight tracking sites to be missing data in international areas. The two to two and a half hours reports are probably correct.


35 posted on 03/08/2014 6:53:37 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: nuconvert
First I’ve heard that. I wonder if that’s true

During any BREAKING NEWS event, we have to take all information 'with a grain of salt'. There is always misinformation, wrong information, a lack of information, possibly intentionally deceptive reporting (both by media and by governmental agencies).

Remain skeptical of any early reporting -- everything is subject to change.

Example that apparently proved false: There were some Tweets last evening that the plane had landed in southern Vietnam.
36 posted on 03/08/2014 6:54:29 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: bgill

Planned Flight Path


37 posted on 03/08/2014 6:57:41 AM PST by HangnJudge
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001
No one had their Cell Phone on?? (There’s always someone...)

Ever try to get a cell signal at 35,000 ft traveling at 535 mph over the ocean?

38 posted on 03/08/2014 6:59:06 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: nuconvert

Is the plane still missing?


39 posted on 03/08/2014 6:59:23 AM PST by Ditter
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To: HangnJudge

That’s what I thought but making sure. IOW, the plane started out it’s journey on the wrong heading. Wonder what the radio communication with the tower concerning that? Just because we’re being told there was no SOS or anything else doesn’t mean there wasn’t.


40 posted on 03/08/2014 7:01:07 AM PST by bgill
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To: EQAndyBuzz

You can take the inexperience out of that. The 55 year old captain on board had more than 18,000 hours flight time.


41 posted on 03/08/2014 7:05:47 AM PST by 2111USMC (Aim Small Miss Small)
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To: TomGuy

this


42 posted on 03/08/2014 7:06:02 AM PST by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/ http://thepurginglutheran.tumblr.com/)
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To: nuconvert

Maybe one of the Muslim pilots decided to off himself....in the name of Allah. Obammy may get NASA on this and order flags at half staff.


43 posted on 03/08/2014 7:07:51 AM PST by Dallas59 (Obama: The first "White Black" President.)
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To: nuconvert
Change your headline there, nuconvert.

A SECOND man listed as on board that flight, Austrian Christan Kozel, aged 30, has been confirmed as safe and well by authorities.

He said his passport was stolen when he visited Thailand two years ago, Austrian newspaper De Standard reports.

44 posted on 03/08/2014 7:08:55 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: HangnJudge

Any idea which tracking website this might be?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2576087/Malaysia-Airlines-says-plane-missing.html#ixzz2vNswyY9Z

An unconfirmed report on a flight tracking website said the aircraft had plunged 650ft and changed course shortly before all contact was lost.


45 posted on 03/08/2014 7:10:18 AM PST by maggief
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To: maggief; Dallas59

EgyptAir Flight 990

The cockpit voice recorder (CVR) recorded the Captain excusing himself to go to the lavatory, followed thirty seconds later by the First Officer saying in Egyptian Arabic “Tawkalt ala Allah”, which translates to “I rely on God.” A minute later, the autopilot was disengaged, immediately followed by the First Officer again saying, “I rely on God.” Three seconds later, the throttles for both engines were reduced to idle, and both elevators were moved three degrees nose down. The First Officer repeated “I rely on God” seven more times before the Captain suddenly asked repeatedly, “What’s happening, what’s happening?” The flight data recorder reflected that the elevators then moved into a split condition, with the left elevator up and the right elevator down, a condition which is expected to result when the two control columns are subjected to at least 50 pounds (23 kg) of opposing force.[1] At this point, both engines were shut down by moving the start levers from run to cutoff. The Captain asked, “What is this? What is this? Did you shut the engines?”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EgyptAir_Flight_990


46 posted on 03/08/2014 7:13:41 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: grania

“Back when that TWA flight went down in Long Island Sound, it was still in the days when the gov didn’t want to worry us about the possibility that it was terrorism by one of those very nice Eygptian pilots.”

Isn’t that the one where one of the pilots deliberately made the plane nosedive yelling “Allahu Akhbar”, while the other pilot kept telling him to “pull up” to stabilize the plane — which was never classified as terrorism, despite the clear evidence. It was also premeditated, I recall the suicidal terrorist pilot sent presents to his kids via another pilot on another airplane, he knew he wasn’t going home himself.


47 posted on 03/08/2014 7:14:06 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Here’s another angle that’s being ignored...last year, Boeing directed operators of its various jets to replace Honeywell Emergency Locator Transponders on their aircraft. The models involved included the 777-200. A Honeywell transponder on a 787 owned by Ethiopian Airlines caught fire on the ground in London and heavily damaged the aircraft.

Not sure if an ELT fire would be enough to produce a catastrophic failure in a 777, but it might explain why there have been no reports of an ELT signal from the crash site. Of course, most of the nit-wits in the media aren’t even aware that jetliners are outfitted with ELTs, but their various “experts” are. You’d also think they would mention the recent problem with the ELTs on Boeing jets.


48 posted on 03/08/2014 7:14:37 AM PST by ExNewsExSpook
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To: Ditter

Yes, still missing


49 posted on 03/08/2014 7:17:34 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

Better source of information would be the data messages automatically transmitted by modern airliners to their operator’s maintenance base. The Air France Airbus that went down over the south Atlantic was transmitting automatic updates almost until the moment it hit the water. Those messages are already in the database...naturally, the Malaysian airline is not discussing them.


50 posted on 03/08/2014 7:18:27 AM PST by ExNewsExSpook
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