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Missing Malaysia airliner: Hunt for clues begins
BBC News ^ | March 8, 2014 | By Chris Yates, Aviation Expert

Posted on 03/08/2014 8:35:48 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

Although it has not been stated explicitly yet, there seems little doubt that Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 has crashed and probably with great loss of life.

Rescue will inevitably turn into recovery - of wreckage and bodies - and the search for clues will begin. --SNIP--

So what might they look for?

Weather can almost certainly be ruled out as a cause. Conditions have been described in different ways, but the consensus is that the aircraft was airborne in near-perfect flying conditions.

This leaves just two main possibilities - catastrophic mechanical failure or an act of terrorism.

Investigators will undoubtedly examine the maintenance record of this aircraft to determine whether all the requisite checks were fully completed, on-schedule, and attempt to glean whether there were any recent unaddressed issues.

They will do so knowing that Malaysia Airlines has been battling financial uncertainty. The state airline has been losing ground to ferociously competitive low-cost carriers, which may have implications for aviation safety.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: austria; aviation; iran; italy; malasia; malaysia; mh370; missing; mystery; religionofpieces; vietnam; waronterror

1 posted on 03/08/2014 8:35:48 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Moslem/Indo women arriving/returning from/to Malaysia don`t get searched by DHS.

Wait for it.


2 posted on 03/08/2014 8:43:30 AM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

While the BBC is leaning toward blaming capitalism, always a safe choice in today’s hyper partisan world, the two stolen passports might point in another. We’ve just got to wait at least until parts of the wreakage are found.


3 posted on 03/08/2014 8:43:39 AM PST by JimSEA
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To: JimSEA

2 oil slicks found by Viet AF

http://video.foxnews.com/v/3313017464001/vietnam-air-force-spot-2-oil-slicks-in-ocean/#sp=show-clips


4 posted on 03/08/2014 8:47:24 AM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: bunkerhill7

Why would the US DHS be involved in pax probing on a flight from Malaysia to China?


5 posted on 03/08/2014 8:47:31 AM PST by null and void ( Obama is Law-Less because Republican "leaders" are BALL-LESS!!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; bryan999

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3131006/posts

Stolen European passports on missing plane
Yahoo News ^

Posted by bryan999

MILAN (AP) — Foreign ministry officials in Rome and Vienna confirm that names of two nationals listed on the manifest of the missing Malaysian airlines flight match passports reported stolen in Thailand.

Italy’s Foreign Ministry said Saturday that an Italian man whose name was listed as being aboard is traveling in Thailand and was not aboard the plane.

A foreign ministry functionary, who spoke on condition of anonymity, confirmed Italian reports that Luigi Maraldi had reported his passport stolen last August.

Italian news agency ANSA says Maraldi called home after hearing reports that an Italian with his name was aboard the plane.


6 posted on 03/08/2014 8:48:56 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( Obozo Care is a Trinity of Lies! Obozo Care is probably a serious Black Swan event.)
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To: null and void

Moslem/Indo women arriving/returning USA from/to Malaysia don`t get searched by DHS.

there fixed it


7 posted on 03/08/2014 8:53:07 AM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: bunkerhill7

Well, yeah, duh, that would be racis!

Deeper question, does the suicidally lax DHS policy infect other countries’ policies? Was Malaysian security complicit by systemic acts of commission or omission?

And will mulsim women ever be treated as shabbily as American women?


8 posted on 03/08/2014 8:58:41 AM PST by null and void ( Obama is Law-Less because Republican "leaders" are BALL-LESS!!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Stolen Passports Prompt Terror Concerns in Missing Jet, Officials Say
9 posted on 03/08/2014 9:05:55 AM PST by Dallas59 (Obama: The first "White Black" President.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
who stands to gain the most from distracting an anxious angry America public from the lil non smidgens of corruption in his administration In Washington?

wow yes and he just happens to be ON VACATION....


10 posted on 03/08/2014 9:09:56 AM PST by MeshugeMikey (Jesus came to Save not Entertain / Ground John Kerry Now!)
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To: null and void
Why would the US DHS be involved in pax probing on a flight from Malaysia to China?

Because they want to be involved in everything everywhere.
Because they believe they are more competent than any other agency in the world.
Because they are looking for new reasons to harass every traveler.
Because they want be the first to put their CONFIDENTIAL stamp on anything that could be "hurtful" to certain groups.

11 posted on 03/08/2014 9:15:26 AM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: MeshugeMikey

once - again.......


12 posted on 03/08/2014 9:17:36 AM PST by dgkb
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To: dgkb

thats why he has an entire promotional team covering the vacation angle for em... Its his FAVORITE Hobby..nest to spending our money!


13 posted on 03/08/2014 9:19:01 AM PST by MeshugeMikey (Jesus came to Save not Entertain / Ground John Kerry Now!)
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To: JimSEA

Yes, it will be very interesting to see who was actually traveling on those stolen passports. They should also take a look at the ground crew; one of the most vulnerable points for any flight is when the luggage handlers are inside the aircraft loading “cleared” bags onto the jet. At that point—with the right people in the right places—it would be easy to put a bomb into or under screened luggage.


14 posted on 03/08/2014 9:44:15 AM PST by ExNewsExSpook
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Echoes of TWA 800.


15 posted on 03/08/2014 9:47:38 AM PST by Oliviaforever
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To: ExNewsExSpook

Very easy indeed, ground crews are a vulnerability worldwide.


16 posted on 03/08/2014 9:50:27 AM PST by JimSEA
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
This leaves just two main possibilities catastrophic mechanical failure or an act of terrorism.

I will add two other, intentional or accidental military act. Does anyone know where the NorK's missiles are?

17 posted on 03/08/2014 9:57:52 AM PST by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: depressed in 06

This is Muslim terrorism directed at China, not a week after the knife attacks. It seems obvious.


18 posted on 03/08/2014 10:02:41 AM PST by sunrise_sunset
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; a fool in paradise

In before Soros done it!


19 posted on 03/08/2014 10:08:47 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: null and void

Q. And will muslim women ever be treated as shabbily as American women?

Ans: Love me, Love my Camel


20 posted on 03/08/2014 10:10:43 AM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: bunkerhill7

That will change only after one of Uncle Stupid’s airliners goes down as a result of a body bomb.


21 posted on 03/08/2014 10:18:57 AM PST by 353FMG
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To: 353FMG

I wonder where the plane was before it took off from Kuala Lumpur..thinking of Lockerbie..


22 posted on 03/08/2014 10:36:32 AM PST by Radagast the Fool (At my signal, UNLEASH PALIN!!)
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To: sunrise_sunset

Yep...Captain Obvious only shows himself to certain people though. Jetliner disappears...no distress signal or call...stolen passports...oh the possibilities!


23 posted on 03/08/2014 10:57:27 AM PST by gr8eman (But thermodynamics is just a social construct, created by the ruling white power structure)
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To: Radagast the Fool

That brings me to the next question: ‘how many Muslim aircraft maintenance personnel do we have working for US airline companies and the USAF?”


24 posted on 03/08/2014 11:30:14 AM PST by 353FMG
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To: null and void

“Why would the US DHS be involved in pax probing on a flight from Malaysia to China?”

Beats me. May be Boeing wants the US government to be involved to save their asses?


25 posted on 03/08/2014 11:41:30 AM PST by sagar
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To: depressed in 06
Does anyone know where the NorK's missiles are?

If the Viet Cong report is correct, that's a hell of an air to air missile, over 8100 miles and gets a hit?

26 posted on 03/08/2014 2:05:25 PM PST by xone
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To: xone

400 surface to air missiles disappeared during the Benghazi attack, and that is why the embassies were closed the next week. Those missiles, depending on distance, can be used to shoot down an airliner.
Although the two men using stolen passports may have gotten something through security....and I think that oil slick may confirm that.
So Hillary’s ‘What does it matter at this point?” It matters a lot if that plane went down from one of them...on her watch those 400 missiles were stolen.


27 posted on 03/08/2014 2:40:58 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat
Those were man portable systems. They are useless for an aircraft at altitude on speed. Max range 3 miles. Next crash at a lower altitude over land or close to shore, maybe. ManPads are not a wonder weapon with a Pk of one, (probability of kill) even with a trained operator.

Maybe they stole something else? Like what? If they aren't portable, it is going to be tough to position them on a boat in the ocean. Alone the missile would be about useless. They would need the launcher, the target acquisition system. Accuracy is not enhanced by shooting it off some Rube Goldberg setup. An SA-8 (non-ManPad but portable')engagement zone is up to 16k, not going to get it done.

Although the two men using stolen passports may have gotten something through security....and I think that oil slick may confirm that.

With a missile?

The slick could confirm the ac went down in the vicinity, if it was a bomb at altitude and on speed, the debris field would be large indeed considering the cataclysmic shredding and the 7 mile fall, the lighter pieces floating down.

28 posted on 03/08/2014 3:08:17 PM PST by xone
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To: xone

29 posted on 03/08/2014 3:11:28 PM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: JoeProBono

Can’t see it BroJoeProBono.


30 posted on 03/08/2014 3:12:57 PM PST by xone
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To: xone

I mentioned the missiles due to Hillary’s comments, as they are out there and I think everything was with them...we had a thread on it at FR...400 missiles had portability though as they were stolen during the attack in Benghazi that day/night? I’ll send you a link to what was taken.

I said the oil slick was proof the two stolen passports got through security, and the men were on the plane. Not sure how the plane was taken down actually...like you said could be several places as oil slick is the fuel.

That Brazil flight was found in Ocean weeks or months later, but it crashed. Depth may be an issue?


31 posted on 03/08/2014 8:08:05 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: xone

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/surface-air-missing-missiles/2013/08/12/id/520026

Here is link and pics of missiles loaded into back of truck in U Tube video. Article said they could shoot down an airliner...so you can make up your own mind after seeing pic and article.


32 posted on 03/08/2014 8:12:07 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: xone

After seeing news tonight that all they have is an oil slick, unless you heard something I didn’t, then without debri is a bomb possible? Wouldn’t something be floating out there, or is it a nose dive by a pilot or terrorist holding gun to pilot’s head? Maybe more news tomorrow.


33 posted on 03/08/2014 8:16:21 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat
I mentioned the missiles due to Hillary’s comments,

I understand that, but those missiles are incapale of downing an airliner at that altitude. Takeoff and in the landing patterns are the engagement zone for those systems.

34 posted on 03/09/2014 10:13:49 AM PDT by xone
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To: Kackikat

Those pics are of rockets, not SA missiles. Could they down an aircraft, oh yeah, but that isn’t their function. They are unguided.


35 posted on 03/09/2014 10:15:57 AM PDT by xone
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To: Kackikat

If the slick is from the aircraft, there will be debris as well. Even if flown into the water, there will be debris.


36 posted on 03/09/2014 10:17:11 AM PDT by xone
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To: xone

Ok thanks. Why would they put a video about something not in the article?


37 posted on 03/09/2014 12:49:57 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: xone

I wondered about that, and I have not seen aircraft accidents other than tv, so not knowledgeable about what would show up.


38 posted on 03/09/2014 12:50:49 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: xone

Ok, point taken.


39 posted on 03/09/2014 12:51:26 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat
Why would they put a video about something not in the article?

Why not, it isn't like the care whether they are credible or not.

40 posted on 03/09/2014 12:59:28 PM PDT by xone
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To: Kackikat

If it crashed in water, things that float, for awhile anyway, then they sink just below the surface. Lots of crap in the oceans, in that area I would expect even more.


41 posted on 03/09/2014 1:01:15 PM PDT by xone
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