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CNN poll: 58% now oppose abortion in most or all cases
Hotair ^ | 03/08/2014 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 03/08/2014 10:49:21 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: LearsFool
Seats guarantee nothing - or haven't you noticed? What is needed are men who will get up off their seats and fight for those unable to fight for themselves. Cowardice cost Aiken the election. But the cowardice was on our part, not his.

Do you still live in Texas? Texans would not have elected Akin either. IT was not cowardice that cost we Missourians the curse of Claire. It was Todd Akin that allowed the liberal media to make him the caricature of their so called 'conservative war on women'.

IF Akin has not done that stupid interview he would be a sitting senator today. See, use to be, that to be conservative one accepts personal responsibility with humility. Oh, just for the record, I live in Missouri, and I voted for Akin.

21 posted on 03/08/2014 1:03:21 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: LearsFool

Well, he clearly has a little cult following him, who consider his personal vanity more important than the abortion battle.

How many months or years do you plan on spamming threads with his failed senate race?


22 posted on 03/08/2014 1:04:38 PM PST by ansel12
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To: Just mythoughts

It quickly became obvious, in the Akin case, that the press have us conservatives wrapped around their little finger. We’re so afraid of being embarrassed by a mistatement by our candidate, that we’ll turn on him like a pack of rabid dogs. The press may point and laugh at him, but we tear him limb from limb.

We’re such cowards. The Akin case was a disgusting diplay - and it continues, to our shame.


23 posted on 03/08/2014 1:40:50 PM PST by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: OrangeHoof

They only pose the “exceptions” argument to Pro-Lifers.

So, we should reject it out of hand, with this response:

“Nobody has ever proposed a law to limit abortions to cases of rape and incest.”

“And, if they did, no liberal would support it.”

“This nonsense is promoted to make the Pro-Aborts seem reasonable, as though these are the only reasons they actually support abortion.”

“So, the answer is “NO, I don’t support an “exceptions” clause, because it is a lie and a farce!”


24 posted on 03/08/2014 1:41:17 PM PST by G Larry (There's the Beef!)
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To: ansel12

Some may learn from re-examining the case and their own behavior in it. (Should we count you among them?) If that fits your definition of “spamming”, feel free to excuse yourself from the discussion.


25 posted on 03/08/2014 1:44:35 PM PST by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: LearsFool
It quickly became obvious, in the Akin case, that the press have us conservatives wrapped around their little finger. We’re so afraid of being embarrassed by a mistatement by our candidate, that we’ll turn on him like a pack of rabid dogs. The press may point and laugh at him, but we tear him limb from limb. We’re such cowards. The Akin case was a disgusting diplay - and it continues, to our shame.

NO! This state is divided into about three equal parts. Libs, Republicans (conservatives) and those so called independents. Akin NEEDED the independents and he had them until he used the term 'legitimate rape'. Every so called independent woman and any man she could influence recoiled at his language.

Let us place the shame where it belongs. Akin who let the liberal media make him a caricature of their lies.

26 posted on 03/08/2014 1:45:33 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: LearsFool

If you care about pro-life, then you need to reexamine your cult of personality and still trying to hijack threads on a egotist who lost an election while taking on much of the pro-life/conservative movement to serve his self.

Earlier you admitted that you didn’t care about the seat, you only cared about the personality you are devoted to, “ Mine might not get elected, but no one can call them liars, hypocrites, cowards, and abortion-enablers.”

I only recall making one post about Akin because after he won the primary, I wanted him to win the race, but he creeped me out.


To: JediJones
I don’t know anything about Akin, and a 12 year, good voting record sounds great, but I did catch most of his interview on the Hannity show, and he gave me the willies.

I’m ready for a good conservative underdog fight, but Akin seemed creepy that day, fixated on winning the next office, self absorbed, vain, and rigid, egoistical in a quiet, mock Christian way, is he always like that?
77 posted on 8/26/2012 12:50:25 AM by ansel12


27 posted on 03/08/2014 1:58:43 PM PST by ansel12
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To: ansel12

A search of FR with the terms “Todd Akin” and “embarrass” is quite telling.

This cult of embarrassment you embrace is symptomatic of the “playground-ridicule” childishness of conservatism today. The other kids laugh at you time and again, so you’ve learned to wait for them to approve a candidate before you’ll support him. You even join in with them, making fun of the “loser kid”, just so they won’t make fun of you. This cult of embarrassment is a weakling’s game.

It’s time to grow up and choose your own candidate. If you disagree with Akin’s principles, then by all means take a stand against him. But don’t be cowed by the other kids making fun of him. When you let them choose a candidate to represent you, know for a fact that it won’t be someone who’ll put a stop to abortion.


28 posted on 03/08/2014 2:28:33 PM PST by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Just mythoughts

You want to win congressional seats. I want to save babies’ lives. In the case of Akin, our goals did not coincide.

What many saw as a mistatement by Akin, I saw - and siezed - as an excellent opening to discuss the root questions regarding abortion. But where I heard a profitable debate beginning, many heard mocking laughter - aimed at them.

Well, so be it. I’ll continue the debate Akin’s “mistatement” introduced. You...I dunno, go vote or something. /shrug/


29 posted on 03/08/2014 2:42:57 PM PST by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: LearsFool

Now you are just rambling and making stuff up, I have nothing to do with your being “embarrassed”, or your repeatedly using that word.

This is how I read the man, “I did catch most of his interview on the Hannity show, and he gave me the willies.

I’m ready for a good conservative underdog fight, but Akin seemed creepy that day, fixated on winning the next office, self absorbed, vain, and rigid, egoistical in a quiet, mock Christian way”

Don’t start lying and making things up about post 27, it is right there.

You are displaying a cult like devotion and it is leading you to dishonesty.


30 posted on 03/08/2014 2:52:17 PM PST by ansel12 (Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism.)
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To: LearsFool
You want to win congressional seats. I want to save babies’ lives. In the case of Akin, our goals did not coincide. What many saw as a mistatement by Akin, I saw - and siezed - as an excellent opening to discuss the root questions regarding abortion. But where I heard a profitable debate beginning, many heard mocking laughter - aimed at them. Well, so be it. I’ll continue the debate Akin’s “mistatement” introduced. You...I dunno, go vote or something. /shrug/

Sorry I have no clue what you are trying to say now. Akin needed those so called independents to beat Claire, and his words turned them off. There is nothing mystical about it.

31 posted on 03/08/2014 3:03:24 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Kazan

Yes, and that is great news.


32 posted on 03/08/2014 3:38:06 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: ansel12

I’m glad to hear you’re not embarrassed by Akin. Perhaps it was your tagline disclaiming him that caused the confusion? Or your continued disparagement of him in a discussion which you call “spamming”?

But no matter. I suppose I’ll carry on with this “cult of personality” which you ascribe to me. Best of luck with your candidate - whether he stands firm or merely mouths words of electability. :-)


33 posted on 03/08/2014 4:13:51 PM PST by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: LearsFool

Which tag line?

Your spamming about that old election is hijacking this prolife thread, your cult of personality for Akin probably won’t have much of a future in politics, unless he is one of those guys who is so vain that he becomes an enduring destructive force as a perennial candidate for offices he can’t win.


34 posted on 03/08/2014 4:24:47 PM PST by ansel12 (Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism.)
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To: SeekAndFind
CNN poll: 58% now oppose abortion in most or all cases...and now if only people were smart enough to understand that they had a better chance of bringing about what they believed in by voting for those who professed the same beliefs than for those who advocate he opposite.....
35 posted on 03/08/2014 9:52:40 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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