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Edward Snowden Says He Reported N.S.A. Surveillance Concerns To Officials Before Leaks
New York Times ^ | 03/08/2014 | By CHARLIE SAVAGE

Posted on 03/08/2014 10:52:48 AM PST by SeekAndFind

WASHINGTON — Edward J. Snowden, the former National Security Agency contractor who leaked a trove of documents revealing the agency’s surveillance operations, said he raised his concerns to more than 10 officials, “none of whom took any action to address them,” before he decided to give the documents to journalists.

Mr. Snowden’s comments, in written answers to questions by members of the European Parliament that were released on Friday, amplified previous assertions that he initially tried to raise concerns internally about surveillance collection he believed went too far.

An N.S.A. spokeswoman declined to comment, but the agency has previously said its internal investigation, including interviews with co-workers, found no evidence that he had brought concerns to the attention of anyone.

But in his written testimony, Mr. Snowden insisted that he had, adding that his efforts had elicited two types of responses. Some people, he said, responded with “well-meaning but hushed warnings not to ‘rock the boat’ ” for fear of retaliation like being investigated by the F.B.I. as a suspected leaker.

“Everyone in the intelligence community is aware of what happens to people who report concerns about unlawful but authorized operations,” he wrote.

Other people, he said, told him to “let the issue be someone else’s problem.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: demagogicparty; fairnessdoctrine; impeachnow; nsa; singlepartystate; snowden

1 posted on 03/08/2014 10:52:48 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

It would have been nice if he stayed there a little longer until he got all the info he could on Barry Soetoro. But then again, if he did he wouldn’t be alive right now.


2 posted on 03/08/2014 11:02:43 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda; maggief

You know I was thinking maybe that’s why. Bambi talked for two hours and an hour yesterday to Vlad. Maybe he was told what to get in order to have Vlad lose that data.

hello Barry I have this copy of your Birth certificate from Snowdon, trade you his death and all the info for Ukraine and wait call me tomorrow.


3 posted on 03/08/2014 11:08:58 AM PST by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: SeekAndFind

if we believe him and we have no reason not to then this is scarier than anything else going on.
I wonder if he will name any of the people he tried to alert


4 posted on 03/08/2014 11:09:51 AM PST by RWGinger
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To: RWGinger

They’ve been crushing whistleblowers for years. A lot of us didn’t care before 2009.

We lost our country about a generation ago.


5 posted on 03/08/2014 11:14:20 AM PST by Forgotten Amendments (On the wrong side of history.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Impossible. I’ve been told many times on FR that instead of running off to a foreign country the right thing would have been for Snowden to raise his concerns his supervisory chain and they would have seen to it that the improprieties were dealt with...


6 posted on 03/08/2014 11:17:58 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

1989


7 posted on 03/08/2014 11:21:44 AM PST by Psalm 144
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To: Joe 6-pack

Impossible. I’ve been told many times on FR that instead of running off to a foreign country the right thing would have been for Snowden to raise his concerns his supervisory chain and they would have seen to it that the improprieties were dealt with...


Yeah. My mom said the same, and since she gets all her news from Fox, they must have been bleating the same. Right. It can’t be that our government is a little corrupt, can it. Naw.


8 posted on 03/08/2014 11:23:36 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

Just look at the Whistleblowers in Benghazi. Tore to shreds and shipped to American Sibera(Chicago).


9 posted on 03/08/2014 11:28:19 AM PST by DrDude (Does anyone have a set of balls anymore?)
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To: Psalm 144
1989

That's pretty much what I was thinking. Poppy loved the jackboots. But, it was inevitable. People fear and despise liberty.

10 posted on 03/08/2014 12:04:31 PM PST by Forgotten Amendments (On the wrong side of history.)
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To: Forgotten Amendments
That's pretty much what I was thinking. Poppy loved the jackboots. But, it was inevitable. People fear and despise liberty.

More like people merely abuse it to one extent or another.

11 posted on 03/08/2014 12:23:36 PM PST by Usagi_yo (Standardization is an Evolutionary dead end.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s unlikely the story is true. If he had he must have informed them by note while he was in the air to Hong Kong.

Had he informed his superiors in regards to NSA data tapping abuse on a country wide scale ... he would have been immediately suspect, and if he worked with the family jewels he would have been having his exit interview and reminded of the penalties for violating his non-disclosures.

Of course, Sandy Berger walked into a archive library and made off with confidential documents so your mileage may vary.


12 posted on 03/08/2014 12:28:45 PM PST by Usagi_yo (Standardization is an Evolutionary dead end.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If you wonder how something like this could happen in America, look @ FR. We have about a dozen posts on this issue. How many do we have on Obama/Aretha Franklin?


13 posted on 03/08/2014 12:53:28 PM PST by Forgotten Amendments (On the wrong side of history.)
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To: All

So, who do I believe? The NSA? Or Snowden. I think I’ll go with Snowden.


14 posted on 03/08/2014 2:45:03 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Forgotten Amendments

And lots of posters who still think Snowden should be shot are starting to keep quiet.


15 posted on 03/08/2014 2:47:22 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Forgotten Amendments; Psalm 144

1989

That’s pretty much what I was thinking. Poppy loved the jackboots. But, it was inevitable. People fear and despise liberty.

____________

Boy I would love to hear the story behind those words.


16 posted on 03/08/2014 3:09:41 PM PST by Chickensoup (leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Snowdon looked at everyone. The scary thing is that he could not find anyone in our government clean enough to go to. Not in the Executive, Judicial or Legislative branch. Think about it.


17 posted on 03/08/2014 3:10:53 PM PST by Chickensoup (leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: VerySadAmerican

You’ve noticed that too, eh?

Some of these “law and order conservatives” are finally starting to remedy their cranial/rectal compaction issues.


18 posted on 03/08/2014 3:47:16 PM PST by NVDave
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To: Chickensoup
I think I got it; Search on 1989 president, if you need to...

I've always believed there were people like Mr. Snowden who were unidentified and undetected, working in our government. I also naively thought they were plentiful and well connected enough to keep things in good order. That, unfortunately has probably been proven with the whole Snowden affair to be completely wrong headed and absolutely false.

Not in the Executive, Judicial or Legislative branch, can we expect to find supporters of liberty. Or to be more specific, tolerance for whistle blowers or adherents to constitutional restraints.

19 posted on 03/08/2014 4:16:43 PM PST by WhoisAlanGreenspan?
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To: Usagi_yo
"...and if he worked with the family jewels he would have been having his exit interview..."

I hope you meant to write "the crown jewels," 'cause if you didn't, then...well, just damn...

20 posted on 03/08/2014 5:11:09 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

“....they would have seen to it that the improprieties were dealt with...”

.
A few .22LR holes behind the right ear?


21 posted on 03/08/2014 5:28:28 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: SeekAndFind
“let the issue be someone else’s problem.”

I wonder how many concerned guys handling shepherds at German railroad yards in the 40's were told that...?

22 posted on 03/08/2014 6:59:23 PM PST by gaijin
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To: SeekAndFind

The loyalty is to the agency,not the constitution. Snowdon is as good as dead


23 posted on 03/08/2014 7:13:30 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum
Well, he is still alive right now.

I used to have a pretty high security clearance in the DOD.

Even when I quit the feds, I was not even remotely tempted to reveal any shred of classified information.

But then again, the NSA wasn't unconstitutionally collecting personal data on USA citizens, as far as I knew, way back then.

Adjust the times and the circumstances...I might have done what Snowden did. Hard to decide, based on the limited amount of data/propaganda that is available to me now.

I'm still ambivalent as to his status as whistleblower or traitor.
It's possible he is equally both, given what little we all think we know, now.

24 posted on 03/08/2014 8:10:53 PM PST by sarasmom (Extortion 17. A large number of Navy SEALs died on that mission. Ask why.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

“...family jewels...crown jewels...”

LMAO


25 posted on 03/08/2014 9:13:43 PM PST by charlie72
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To: Joe 6-pack

“...family jewels...crown jewels...”

LMAO


26 posted on 03/08/2014 9:14:00 PM PST by charlie72
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?
Not in the Executive, Judicial or Legislative branch, can we expect to find supporters of liberty. Or to be more specific, tolerance for whistle blowers or adherents to constitutional restraints.

Heck, you should see [non-]responses I get when I eviscerate the legitimacy of the War on Drugs based on the Constitution (and Bill of Rights)… nobody wants to argue for its legitimacy after that.
(link 1 and 2)

Corruption is a serious problem, and we are just deluding ourselves if we blindly accept that those in authority are in the right because of their position.

27 posted on 03/08/2014 9:31:15 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: sarasmom
I'm still ambivalent as to his status as whistleblower or traitor.
It's possible he is equally both, given what little we all think we know, now.

You can watch this interview to get a better informed opinion.
Personally I don't think he's a Traitor.

28 posted on 03/08/2014 9:36:39 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: crosslink

Obama:....Hey Vlad, you keep my birth certificate quiet and you can have UKRAINE!!


29 posted on 03/09/2014 5:03:53 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: sarasmom

The people who claim to know on this site are more mad that he violated the NDA than the NSA/CIA spying on private citizens without a warrant.

The most common response is “Well, everyone should know that it happens, and if you are not guilty it isn’t a problem!”

The GOP will end as a party because of things like this. Rather than defend the constitution, they defend their own business interests.


30 posted on 03/09/2014 7:01:42 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum

I went dark on FR for a good bit because the alternative was to point this stuff out, and the mods were just on a knife fest banning people left and right.

It is nice to see that some people seem to be waking up to the idea that a Free Republic (the concept, not the site) can never be saved by the exercise of state power, and that authority can never be trusted.

My fear is that once “our guy” (whoever that turns out to be) is back in power, the same crew will once again roll over, expose their bellies and pee themselves in submission to tyrants, and be INDIGNANT at the idea that “our great country” would start wars, trample freedom, impoverish people and trample the constitution.


31 posted on 03/09/2014 7:09:19 AM PDT by AK_47_7.62x39
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To: Psalm 144

Just look at what has happened since then. But im not giving up.


32 posted on 03/09/2014 7:11:23 PM PDT by Carry me back
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