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How California Voters Raised the Price of Eggs Across America
Frontpage Mag ^ | 03/08/2014 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 03/08/2014 11:22:49 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Cyber Liberty
“We do need to be nice to the food machines.”

The food machines that process my vegetables are powered by gas or electricity and don't poop in the processing area!

51 posted on 03/08/2014 12:17:53 PM PST by dalereed
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To: usconservative

Yes, it is sad when even Conservatives talk like idiots.


52 posted on 03/08/2014 12:18:53 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: SeekAndFind

This all leads back to the progressive destruction of the family (ie the family farm/ homestead)

Americans used to produce their own. If more Americans got back to that then this wouldn’t be a problem.


53 posted on 03/08/2014 12:19:03 PM PST by barmag25 (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? NO!!!)
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To: P-Marlowe

+1. I’m okay with it.

Eggs, Milk, 2 rashers and a piece of toast, Apple and 1/2 a sandwich, 4 oz lean meat, green leafy vegetable.

$9 for a healthy food day. X 4 makes it $36 per day for a family of 4. $252 a week for rouglhy $1000 per month for a family of 4. Working with a tight budget and trying to maintain healthy eating.

with a %20 increase in eggs ... increases the monthly expense by $67.


54 posted on 03/08/2014 12:19:25 PM PST by Usagi_yo (Standardization is an Evolutionary dead end.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

“That sow is ready to be bread.”

Or even bred.


55 posted on 03/08/2014 12:19:30 PM PST by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Ha, good to see you.

As someone who actually LIVED on a farm and knows what "go out back and get a chicken for dinner" actually meant, I'd bet no one else on this thread would have the guts to truly "make their own dinner" from killing it, gutting and cleaning it and getting it ready for the frying pan.

They'll probably call me an animal abuser for this post, the gutless sissies.

56 posted on 03/08/2014 12:19:44 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

No one is forcing you to eat eggs.


57 posted on 03/08/2014 12:19:58 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration

And no one’s forcing you to post nonsense, yet here you are.


58 posted on 03/08/2014 12:21:11 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Balding_Eagle

Bump Ah dee Bump Bump!


59 posted on 03/08/2014 12:22:41 PM PST by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: Lazamataz

Oh boy. Koster is a Democrat gunning for governor one of these days in an agriculture state. That gives him points. Secondly, for conservatives the issue IS commerce at this point. Missouri may one day require a different way of producing eggs but not today. So, no, hostile California should not dictate how we should produce product.


60 posted on 03/08/2014 12:22:53 PM PST by taterjay
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To: Mariner
Nothing but cage free organic for me. I can afford it and prefer the taste, color and avoidance of synthetic compounds.

That's how such decisions should be made, not at the point of a gun as many are suggesting.

The Organic label was developed to address many of the concerns people have. I notice that isn't enough; guns have been introduced into the picture to force their beliefs on people like me.

61 posted on 03/08/2014 12:23:22 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Over production, one of the top 5 worries for the American Farmer every year.)
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To: usconservative; Lurker
"So stop shipping eggs into California. Let those fools pay 15 dollars a dozen. They voted for it, let them enjoy the consequences."

I just did a little research.

CA used to be the country's #1 egg producer but is #5 now, with it's production dropping from 8.5billion eggs per year to a little over 4billion.

CA is only producing 1,000 eggs per year, per resident.

Yep, only 1,000.

62 posted on 03/08/2014 12:23:53 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Lazamataz

A male cougar.

Wait. Aren’t all males cougars? Or is it only all rich males?


63 posted on 03/08/2014 12:25:39 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: SamAdams76; usconservative

usconservative post 44


64 posted on 03/08/2014 12:25:45 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Over production, one of the top 5 worries for the American Farmer every year.)
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To: Mariner

CORRECTION: That’s only ONE HUNDRED eggs per year per person.


65 posted on 03/08/2014 12:26:51 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

And the law hasn’t even taken effect yet. Wait until it does and CA is producing 10 eggs per person/year!


66 posted on 03/08/2014 12:30:28 PM PST by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: Mariner
#5 with half the country's egg production .... so half the country's egg eaters pay for California's nonsense?

I suspect at the rate California is hemorraging other businesses, it won't be long before the rest of the egg producers either leave the state or are forced out of business as a result of this ridiculous law ... and that's the way it should be. When a state makes it intolerable to do business and compete, they'll have only themselves to blame when business' leave and they lose their tax base.

Two states leading that trend are California and Illinois. Both blue states. No surprise there.

67 posted on 03/08/2014 12:30:58 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: barmag25

Looking into my crystal ball, I can forsee a resurgence in the nearly forgotten art of chicken thieving and cattle rustling. I am setting up a website to educate those interested in gaining the necessary skills, for a small fee of course. I am also adding two other courses, Fishin with Dynamite, and of course, Catfishing Made Easy with the Old Crank Telephone at a small addition charge. These are skills that will last a lifetime. Not required but highly recommended, Sprinting While Carrying a Burden. These courses are accelerated as the life expectancy in some states of my students can be somewhat short. Cash only. No payment plans available.


68 posted on 03/08/2014 12:33:20 PM PST by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: dalereed

Good point, Dale. That’s why I get my food-machine byproduct at a supermarket where it’s wrapped in plastic. I hire out the poop collection process to the dudes at the ranch.

It’s a fair business exchange. If folks want to pay more for food that’s been cared for in a more expensive way, all power to ‘em, this is still the United States, friend. What must be resisted is the liberal urge to force everybody to also buy more expensive food as a way of salving their own consciences.

(My wife sez to extend her good wishes to yours, Dale.)


69 posted on 03/08/2014 12:34:53 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: usconservative
Right on. Why is it the only good old fashioned Conservative common sense left on this forum seems to be from the class of '98?

We have always been an unruly class.

70 posted on 03/08/2014 12:35:48 PM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Beagle8U

“That sow is ready to be bread.”

Bwaaaaahahahaha! Ya got me! As I always say;
“Spell czech is knot yore friend!
I love funny typos, and can laugh at myself quite easily! Thanks for catching that! I gotz a big smile on my face right now!


71 posted on 03/08/2014 12:38:40 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Starstruck

And that’s the best part about us! :-)


72 posted on 03/08/2014 12:40:13 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Cyber Liberty
What must be resisted is the liberal urge to force everybody to also buy more expensive food as a way of salving their own consciences.

A point lost on many on this thread --- Game, Set, Match: Cyber Liberty.

73 posted on 03/08/2014 12:42:36 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

Sprinting While Carrying a Burden has always been a popular course in the inner city. It’s a companion course with Hurling Paving Bricks Through Windows.


74 posted on 03/08/2014 12:43:20 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Starstruck; usconservative

Why?

Brains....... wisdom

Sometime I just can’t help it. the wisdom just bubbles up and can’t be stopped.

It’s like a damn maricle


75 posted on 03/08/2014 12:44:46 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: usconservative

I thought I was gonna get a dressing-down from you, turns out not. :)

We had a very tight group way-back-when. Its broader now. I like it either way.

The thing I am most distressed about are the Republican partisans who would insist I vote for Andy Cuomo for President if he had a Republican label.


76 posted on 03/08/2014 12:44:48 PM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
What must be resisted is the liberal urge to force everybody to also buy more expensive food as a way of salving their own consciences.

A lot of people have forgotten, or maybe never knew, that the 'Organic' label was designed to cover those types of food.

Like the homosexual lobby, they aren't content to have their own foods, they must have everyone accept their foods. Even a bunch of Freepers.

Give me my inorganic foods and leave me the hell alone!

77 posted on 03/08/2014 12:46:45 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Over production, one of the top 5 worries for the American Farmer every year.)
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To: usconservative

I wasn’t raised on a farm, but my parents were and are familiar with the “Go get dinner from out back” routine. Just watch out for the pinfeathers.

Story from my yout: I was about five when I had a Rhode Island Red decide to chase me around my Gramma’s chicken yard. Gramma “went out back” that day to fetch us dinner, and the Chicken and Dumplins were extra good that night.


78 posted on 03/08/2014 12:47:56 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: SeekAndFind

It is a sad day when people who know nothing about food production suddenly start demanding you raise it “their way or else!”

We’ve seen lots of that recently.


79 posted on 03/08/2014 12:49:17 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: usconservative

Comes from hanging out with yous guys for over a decade and a half.


80 posted on 03/08/2014 12:49:53 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: SeekAndFind

81 posted on 03/08/2014 12:50:54 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SeekAndFind
so the state legislature passed a measure in 2010 to require out-of-state producers to comply with California rules.

Hard to believe but California will have a illegal black market for eggs if this passes legal hurdles...

State prison:
"What's you in for ?"

"I'm doing 5 to 10 for selling illegal eggs"

82 posted on 03/08/2014 12:50:54 PM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: andyk
I have no problem paying $5 a dozen for local farm raised eggs.

I do.

I am glad you have enough disposable income to be able to buy top of the line stuff but the rest of the world does not.

The argument is the same liberals make about having a Wal-mart move into an area.

83 posted on 03/08/2014 12:52:42 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Cyber Liberty

My question is why should fly over country be short changed in relation to these soon to be very important skills? My plan will level the playing field for everyone. As an advanced course I will soon be offering to the surviving students of my chicken and cattle courses, Pig Stealing Made Easy. I plan to put the bacon back in bringing home the bacon. Now accepting Visa and Mastercard.


84 posted on 03/08/2014 1:00:56 PM PST by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: usconservative

Is that suppose to pass for wit?


85 posted on 03/08/2014 1:01:52 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Balding_Eagle
Like the homosexual lobby, they aren't content to have their own foods, they must have everyone accept their foods.

We could have a philosophical discussion all day over why that is. Is it because they think they're doing us a favor? Reducing health-care costs? Maybe they don't like paying more for "organic" and think the cost of that stuff can be driven down by forcing all food to be handled that way?

Beats me. Doesn't matter to me, they need to butt out. As for this bit about California determining how everybody else lives, I think about that every time I pump gas into my car. I live in AZ and we get our gas from CA primarily, and we have to pay whatever little premium they choose to add onto the price.

86 posted on 03/08/2014 1:02:59 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Balding_Eagle

So, you feed a nation by torturing the animals?


87 posted on 03/08/2014 1:03:14 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: usconservative
"so half the country's egg eaters pay for California's nonsense?"

Actually I think this will affect the cost of eggs only in CA.

Most producers will not comply and will maintain lucrative contracts elsewhere.

Then there will be some who comply from out of state and they'll have a lucrative market within CA.

And the going rate for eggs will be $2.50/doz everywhere but CA where it will be $4.00.

Or thereabouts.

88 posted on 03/08/2014 1:04:59 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: fortheDeclaration
So, you feed a nation by torturing the animals?

As someone who has raised a quarter million hogs, birth to market, I know a little something about how best to raise animals.

You, apparently, not so much.

Nor do these other clowns who want to impose their religious beliefs on me at the point of a gun.

89 posted on 03/08/2014 1:07:31 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Over production, one of the top 5 worries for the American Farmer every year.)
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To: P-Marlowe
Now will come out all the comments from those who call themselves ‘conservatives’ on how if you are concerned with the animals quality of life you are a ‘animal rights’ advocate.
‘A righteous man regardeth the life of his beast, but the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel (Pr.12:10)
Many ‘conservatives’ confuse cruelty with strength.
90 posted on 03/08/2014 1:08:39 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

You’ll clean up. You’ll be accepting AmEx before Obastard leaves office. He’s leaning extra-hard on the flyover crackas.


91 posted on 03/08/2014 1:10:00 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Cyber Liberty

The good news is that our food costs are so low that we can have these ‘discussions’, instead of fighting over who gets the last scrap of food.


92 posted on 03/08/2014 1:10:04 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Over production, one of the top 5 worries for the American Farmer every year.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
I am glad you have enough disposable income to be able to buy top of the line stuff but the rest of the world does not.

The argument is the same liberals make about having a Wal-mart move into an area.


Huh? You're upset that I think high quality eggs are worth $5 a dozen? You think me supporting local farmers hurts the rest of the world somehow? You'll have to explain this one to me. And it has what to do with liberalism?
93 posted on 03/08/2014 1:11:18 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Balding_Eagle; Yaelle
It is obvious someone has never raised a chicken and knows nothing about how to do it so the animal is healthy and well.

A stressed chicken will not lay.
A starved chicken will not lay, and the other chickens will break and devour the eggs that are laid.
A debeaked chicken will not cannibalize other chickens. Only about 1/8 of the tip of the upper beak is removed from the baby chick.
Small coop doors help keep PREDATORS out. I lost my last flock to predator.
Too many roosters will fight each other and cause havoc and stress in the coop.
New chickens introduced into a flock will be thrashed and whipped without mercy by the older hens.
Free range chickens require constant monitoring because the chickens will often hide the eggs. Caged chickens don't.

The OLDEN method of raising free range chickens. You feed cattle, some food passes through undigested.
You run hogs after the cattle which eat the manure. Some of that feed will not be digested and passes through.

You run chickens behind the hogs to get the undigested feed in the manure.

Any chicken that dies is thrown to the hogs.

Now THAT is a free range chicken!

Think of it when you crack an egg.

94 posted on 03/08/2014 1:11:48 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Nice strawman you built there. He didn’t have a chance against your superior warrior skills.


95 posted on 03/08/2014 1:12:27 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: fortheDeclaration
Now will come out all the comments from those who call themselves ‘conservatives’ on how if you are concerned with the animals quality of life you are a ‘animal rights’ advocate.

Define 'animals quality of life'.

96 posted on 03/08/2014 1:13:12 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Over production, one of the top 5 worries for the American Farmer every year.)
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To: Mariner

I think you are correct. The markets will develop to meet the new paradigm.

But: When Californians start bitching about their four-buck eggs, California will start looking for ways to force the rest of the country to pay. Ask Amazon about that, they’ll be happy to tell you about their experience with the CA machine.


97 posted on 03/08/2014 1:15:43 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Cyber Liberty

Great minds think alike.


98 posted on 03/08/2014 1:18:05 PM PST by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: P-Marlowe
Caging chickens 24 hours a day for their entire lives, just doesn’t seem to me to be the way that God intended that these creatures be treated. God gave men Men stewardship over the beasts of the field, but that does not give men the moral right to abuse them.

Nor does our concern about those creatures give us the moral right to control those who do not share those concerns.

99 posted on 03/08/2014 1:18:18 PM PST by Carry_Okie (ObamaCare: Make them pay; do not delay.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Amen. Let’s make sure it stays that way.


100 posted on 03/08/2014 1:18:21 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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