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La. Police Claim Man Shot And Killed Himself While Handcuffed
Newsone ^ | Mar 8, 2014

Posted on 03/08/2014 1:49:46 PM PST by nickcarraway

Louisiana state police are investigating the death Victor White, III, 22, who allegedly shot and killed himself while handcuffed in the back of a patrol car, reports The Advocate.

White was allegedly involved in an altercation and when deputies responded to the call they claim to have found illegal drugs on him which lead to his arrest.

White was in handcuffs with his hands behind his back when he was killed, allegedly by his own gun — which conveniently wasn’t found during the search that led to his arrest.

Read more below from The Advocate:

Once at the sheriff’s office, White became uncooperative and refused to exit the deputy’s patrol vehicle, reports CBS affiliate KLFY.

Trooper Stephen Hammons says White produced a handgun and fired one round, striking himself in the back.

White was pronounced dead at a nearby hospital.

Sheriff Louis Ackal asked State Police to investigate the incident. State Police-led investigations in deaths involving officers are normal.

“We’re investigating how he got the gun,” Hammons said late Monday. “It’s too early in our investigation to comment further.”

Rev. Raymond Brown, president of National Action Now of New Orleans, said Monday night that his organization is looking into White’s death.

“Something is seriously wrong with this picture,” Brown said.

As previously reported by NewsOne, this isn’t the first time that a handcuffed Black man has died under suspicious circumstances.

In August 2012, Chavis Carter, a 21-year-old Mississippi man, was shot to death in the back of a Jonesboro, Ark. Police Department squad car. Police claim that he pulled the trigger even though he was handcuffed and shot on the right side of the head.

Carter’s mother said her son was left-handed.

Jonesboro Chief of Police Micheal Yates says the scenario is not far fetched at all.

“The average person who has never been in handcuffs, that never been around inmates or people in custody would react exactly the same way you just did: ‘How could that be possible?’ Well, fact of it is, it’s very possible. It’s quite easy,” Jonesboro Chief of Police Micheal Yates told CNN.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: crime; donutwatch; leo; louisiana; police; suicide

1 posted on 03/08/2014 1:49:46 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: bamahead; traviskicks

Libertarian ping


2 posted on 03/08/2014 1:52:02 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (The War on Drugs is Big Government statism)
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To: nickcarraway

Kinda like “ARKANCIDE”....


3 posted on 03/08/2014 1:52:35 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: nickcarraway
One of these days that gun is going off in his ass. Ick.
4 posted on 03/08/2014 1:54:07 PM PST by Domangart (LBGT = NAMBLA)
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To: nickcarraway
Well, fact of it is, it’s very possible. It’s quite easy,” Jonesboro Chief of Police Micheal Yates told CNN

Care to demonstrate?
You putz

5 posted on 03/08/2014 1:56:21 PM PST by stormhill
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To: nickcarraway

It’s just the sort of thing street thug would do.
Now, a banker at JP Morgan would be far more likely to kill himself with a nail gun, putting 8 nails into his chest.
Different strokes for different folks.


6 posted on 03/08/2014 1:58:36 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: nickcarraway

Sloppy search before being put in the car - Texas recently executed a scumbag who murdered the arresting officer from the back seat.


7 posted on 03/08/2014 1:58:43 PM PST by dainbramaged
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To: nickcarraway

This kid must have been some sort of Houdini. What BS.
So they lost the gun that killed him? Next time one of these things comes up, I’ll bet the cover-up will be more thorough, that is the person will just disappear.


8 posted on 03/08/2014 1:58:53 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: nickcarraway
La. Police Claim Man Shot And Killed Himself While Handcuffed

I'm not saying that this piece of trash probably didn't need killing, but I'm wondering:

Isn't it standard procedure to "pat down" a suspect for weapons before you handcuff them and put them in the back of a patrol car? If not, we need to re-write the scripts of every cop show that has ever been on TV.

9 posted on 03/08/2014 1:59:05 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Who but a TYRANT shoves down another man's throat what he has exempted himself from?)
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To: nickcarraway

Exact same thing occurred up here in Durham, NC, a very little while back. No, I don’t live in Durham, thank goodness.

The police came to the conclusion that he had a gun he was trying to access during the police ride into the clink.

Mmmm-hmmm......right.....


10 posted on 03/08/2014 1:59:14 PM PST by nesnah (Liberals - the petulant children of politics)
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To: nickcarraway

http://newsone.com/2953674/victor-white-iii-killed-in-handcuffs/

THE SITES name IS NEWSONE FOR BLACK AMERICANS.

might give some a clue to the spin.


11 posted on 03/08/2014 2:00:02 PM PST by BilLies (330,000 WHITE Union military went to their deaths to free the slaves .... REALLY???!!!)
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To: nickcarraway

uh, yeah, that’s the ticket...........

what a bunch of buffoons


12 posted on 03/08/2014 2:00:33 PM PST by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: nickcarraway

I don’t believe the leo’s for 1 second.BS!


13 posted on 03/08/2014 2:02:16 PM PST by plainshame
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To: nickcarraway

No real surprise. Gun in the waistband, placed just above the butt. The guy fumbles with the gun, in the course of which the barrel points upwards and discharges while a finger inadvertently depresses the trigger. The average street thug has no firearm safety awareness, which is anyhow difficult to implement, given that he is fumbling with a gun behind his back, going by feel alone.


14 posted on 03/08/2014 2:03:08 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: grumpygresh

At least he didn’t shoot himself in the head 3 times, I remember a story like that from a few years back


15 posted on 03/08/2014 2:04:17 PM PST by DanielRedfoot (Creepy Ass Cracker)
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To: nickcarraway

I recall an incident. Two suspects in a drive by. No gun. One being questioned.....the other having been searched twice on the street and again before the cuffs were removed was being booked. Ten minutes later, the one being questioned gave up the location of the gun. The fat guy being booked had a 380 between his rather enormous butt cheeks.....one chambered.....6 more in the mag. Searched three times.

I was the booking officer....first week on the assignment.

I resolved to always remind myself that no one was searched until I searched him.

Some guys just can’t do the butt check. Me? All the way up to the elbow....if necessary. Lesson learned.

Da butt is #1 location for money...drugs...guns....knives....cellphones.


16 posted on 03/08/2014 2:08:25 PM PST by dasboot
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To: The Sons of Liberty
Isn't it standard procedure to "pat down" a suspect for weapons before you handcuff them and put them in the back of a patrol car? If not, we need to re-write the scripts of every cop show that has ever been on TV.

It is standard procedure, but some searches are more thorough than others, which is why cops are occasionally killed by suspects with guns they failed to find. A Mexican illegal was executed recently for just such a crime. I think it's a mix of respect for personal privacy and not wanting to probe too closely at the potentially stinky bits of a suspect's anatomy.

17 posted on 03/08/2014 2:08:26 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: dasboot

Some guys just can’t do the butt check. Me? All the way up to the elbow....

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Lucky you.


18 posted on 03/08/2014 2:11:20 PM PST by Chickensoup (leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: Chickensoup

I do wear gloves. :^/

I relieved the watch when the guy was being searched at the desk for the 3rd time. A guy I went to the academy with...good bud...was doing it. I didn’t want to hurt his feelings by doing it again. D’uh.

Complacency kills. And when yer dead..it’s forever.

I did, however, gain a reputation on the street for the thoroughness of my gropery. Some bad guys asked for me by name. YEESH! :^0


19 posted on 03/08/2014 2:20:59 PM PST by dasboot
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To: Chickensoup
Some guys just can’t do the butt check. Me? All the way up to the elbow....

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Lucky you.

That's why cops get paid the big bucks - to handle the dirty jobs no one else wants to touch.

20 posted on 03/08/2014 2:21:29 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: nickcarraway

This seems to happen a lot:

Unarmed Handcuffed Teen Shoots Himself in the Head While In a Police Car - See more at: http://www.thedailysheeple.com/unarmed-handcuffed-teen-shoots-himself-in-the-head-while-in-a-police-car_122013#sthash.0Zez27ul.dpuf

Another handcuffed young man manages to shoot himself : http://www.salon.com/2012/12/06/another_handcuffed_young_man_manages_to_shoot_himself/


21 posted on 03/08/2014 2:25:53 PM PST by Fido969 (What's sad is most)
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To: dasboot
Some guys just can’t do the butt check. Me? All the way up to the elbow.

Your elbow, or theirs? 'Hey can you exhale a little bit sir? I'm having trouble searching past your lungs'. :-)

22 posted on 03/08/2014 2:28:50 PM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: Fido969

I is a cardinal rule to sweep the cage after every arrest. Bad stuff often gets ditched during the ride to the station. The unarmed kid could have found it in the back seat. Or he had it on him after being declared ‘clean’. He obviously had access. No one shot him....or gave him the gun.


23 posted on 03/08/2014 2:35:55 PM PST by dasboot
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To: dasboot

I did, however, gain a reputation on the street for the thoroughness of my gropery. Some bad guys asked for me by name. YEESH! :^0

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You lucky dog, Hope this translates into popularity with the ladies.


24 posted on 03/08/2014 2:38:36 PM PST by Chickensoup (leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: nickcarraway

Lemme guess, and unregisterd, too.


25 posted on 03/08/2014 2:38:38 PM PST by bgill
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To: Chickensoup

We have matrons who search the ‘gals’.


26 posted on 03/08/2014 2:40:37 PM PST by dasboot
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To: dasboot

We have matrons who search the ‘gals’.

____________

I was referring to your dating/marital life.


27 posted on 03/08/2014 2:42:23 PM PST by Chickensoup (leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: dasboot

I have two related stories, one was when we were arrested and handcuffed, my friend (unknown to me) ditched a pistol (4 shot derringer), unfortunately a woman had seen him toss it into the ditch and called the station, the cops hadn’t found it during the search.

I’m just glad that he didn’t have the 12” sawed off shotgun that he sometimes wore as a necklace and inside his shirt.

The other was a friend in Conroe, he was arrested and taken to the station where he was cuffed to a bench awaiting booking, he describes being incredibly distressed, why? because he still had his full sized pistol hidden in his pants and knew that at some point, all heck was going to break loose and that the police would down on him with disfavor, and would be especially angry, since they would have been made fools of.


28 posted on 03/08/2014 2:43:04 PM PST by ansel12 (Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism.)
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To: ansel12

That must have been a long time ago....before the cameras.


29 posted on 03/08/2014 2:54:13 PM PST by dasboot
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To: Chickensoup

Nah....not so much. :^(


30 posted on 03/08/2014 3:02:32 PM PST by dasboot
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To: nickcarraway

A graduate of the Vince Foster school of Arkincide, no doubt.


31 posted on 03/08/2014 3:06:23 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: dasboot

It was the old days.

I remember quite a bit about the old days, for one thing, cops used to be tougher, in both good ways, and bad ways, they were more brutal and abusive, but they also would walk into a bar by them self to make an arrest, and fight a guy to subdue him, rather than stand off and just shoot him.

One thing that lawyers and lawsuits, and the left ended that was good about the old cops, was that they could size up situations and people, crimes and intent, and make field judgments.
The classic example being some kids doing something that was legally potentially serious beyond what they were aware of in their boyish energies, but that he knew was something that he could stop that night, and that they would never do again.
Another being the tail light stop, smelling strong alcohol, and seeing that the driver was 2 blocks from his house, and sending him straight home.


32 posted on 03/08/2014 3:11:08 PM PST by ansel12 (Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism.)
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To: dasboot

Nah....not so much. :^(

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Pity.


33 posted on 03/08/2014 3:13:00 PM PST by Chickensoup (leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: nickcarraway

The is how it goes in Louisanna with the LEOs

You lie, I’ll lie, we all lie.

And they get away with it too dont matter if your White Black or Brown.


34 posted on 03/08/2014 3:16:49 PM PST by Gasshog (These introductions of non-native species have consequences, like allowing Obama back into the U.S.)
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To: nickcarraway
an undercover narc friend of mine had a drug dealer he was chasing commit suicide by shooting himself 6 times in the back of his head!
35 posted on 03/08/2014 3:18:14 PM PST by dalereed
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To: ansel12

Yeah....I remember. 30 years ago. Whole different job now. Both sides.


36 posted on 03/08/2014 3:21:55 PM PST by dasboot
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To: dasboot

I think of 30 years ago, as part of the modern times.

Like most things in America, the change was rapid, and started in the early 1970s.


37 posted on 03/08/2014 3:33:18 PM PST by ansel12 (Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism.)
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To: grumpygresh

Where did you see they lost the gun that killed him?


38 posted on 03/08/2014 3:39:26 PM PST by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a GREAT life!)
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To: Zhang Fei

Cops should use one of those metal detecting wands that security guards have. I wouldn’t want to go anywhere near the stinky bits of a perp’s anatomy but potentially getting killed over an insufficient search is also not an option.


39 posted on 03/08/2014 3:56:47 PM PST by Two Kids' Dad
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To: ansel12

There was a saying I heard a while back that cops used to be iron men with wooden sticks and now they’re wooden men with iron sticks. I didn’t say it, just heard it. My LAPD bro-in-law would not be thrilled if I dared say it to him.


40 posted on 03/08/2014 4:02:09 PM PST by Two Kids' Dad
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To: Two Kids' Dad

I pulled an old trick on LAPD to prevent someone from getting a DWI.

A car load of partying guys picked me up hitchhiking one night, the driver got stopped and as it progressed he looked like a DWI goner, none of his friends would do anything, so I got out and started being belligerent about “probable cause” etc. and causing a big distraction, which shifted all their attention to me, I got slammed around a little, but eventually I was cleared and we were sent on our way, the driver had been totally forgotten.


41 posted on 03/08/2014 4:30:14 PM PST by ansel12 (Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism.)
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To: ansel12

My brother’s friend told a story about driving home drunk one night and he came upon a line of cars at a DUI checkpoint. He put the car in park and scooted over to the passenger seat. When the line of cars began pulling forward a cop approached and asked why he wasn’t moving. He said he was drunk and the guy that had been driving him jumped out of the car and ran away when he saw the cops. I don’t remember what the specific resolution was, but he avoided a DUI.


42 posted on 03/08/2014 5:03:50 PM PST by Two Kids' Dad
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To: stormhill

“Well, fact of it is, it’s very possible. It’s quite easy,” Jonesboro Chief of Police Micheal Yates told CNN

Care to demonstrate?
You putz”

Ya, seriously. If it were that easy, why bother handcuffing a person in the first place? Just because one or two hired contortionists can do a demonstration of how ‘easy’ it is, doesn’t mean it is the norm.

Who do they think they are kidding?


43 posted on 03/08/2014 5:53:59 PM PST by LevinFan
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To: nickcarraway

I don’t think their will be a Victor White, IV


44 posted on 03/08/2014 6:20:18 PM PST by 12th_Monkey (One man one vote is a big fail, when the "one" man is an idiot.)
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To: nickcarraway

We all know an SUV drove the gun there, and it jumped up and shot the poor man.


45 posted on 03/08/2014 6:23:01 PM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: nickcarraway

Well maybe he needed killin but this is the worst cover up ever.


46 posted on 03/08/2014 7:44:46 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: dainbramaged

Are you serious? That’s kinda like expecting folks to believe “he backed into that knife, 20 times!”


47 posted on 03/08/2014 7:49:51 PM PST by nomad
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To: stormhill
Not enough info to make a determination.

What kind of gun - short barrel makes it more possible
Where did the round strike and at what angle - - longer barrel means steeper angle and farther away from hands.

Not saying the cops didn't murder the guy, but there isn't enough data to even determine if it was possible that he did it to himself.

48 posted on 03/09/2014 4:49:35 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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