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Transgender study looks at 'exceptionally high' suicide-attempt rate
Los Angeles Times ^ | January 28, 2014 | Emily Alpert Reyes

Posted on 03/08/2014 2:44:08 PM PST by Salman

A whopping 41% of people who are transgender or gender-nonconforming have attempted suicide sometime in their lives, nearly nine times the national average, according to a sweeping survey released three years ago.

In a new study released Tuesday, researchers dug deeper into that number, analyzing the results of the National Transgender Discrimination Survey to examine what puts transgender people at such "exceptionally high" risk.

Researchers from the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention and the Williams Institute at UCLA School of Law found that the risk of attempting suicide was especially severe for transgender or gender nonconforming people who had suffered discrimination or violence, such as being physically or sexually assaulted at work or school.

Among transgender people who became homeless because of bias against their gender identity, 69% said they had tried to kill themselves. Out of those who had been turned away by a doctor because they were transgender or gender-nonconforming, 60% had attempted suicide sometime in their lives, the survey found.

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More evidence (even if not presented as such) that it is a mental illness.
1 posted on 03/08/2014 2:44:08 PM PST by Salman
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To: Salman

Stop pandering to mental illness and treat it.


2 posted on 03/08/2014 2:45:36 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Salman

...and of course it’s the fault of normal people.


3 posted on 03/08/2014 2:46:11 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: Salman

Did the guy inside kill the girl outside or visa versa?


4 posted on 03/08/2014 2:46:28 PM PST by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Salman

When someone is supposed to be in a psychiatric ward with electrodes on maximum voltage, but you take them out and say they’re okay and take a knife to their genitals, why is it surprising these people kill themselves?


5 posted on 03/08/2014 2:46:43 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Salman

They try to spin it as other people make them want to kill themselves, but the truth is that anyone who hates their genitals enough to remove or alter them hates themselves more than anyone else possibly could.


6 posted on 03/08/2014 2:47:57 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Salman
to examine what puts transgender people at such "exceptionally high" risk.

Good question. What is it that puts mentally ill people at high risk for suicide and other manifestations of mental illness?

7 posted on 03/08/2014 2:50:21 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: cripplecreek

There’s the one and only answer. I look forward to a time when we remember that people who help enable/continue mental illness are pretty freaking evil.


8 posted on 03/08/2014 2:50:47 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: cripplecreek

High suicide-attempt rate? How hard is it to commit suicide? If I were a transgendered whatever, suicide would seem an acceptable alternative. Is this a cry for help from the drama queens? There is a how to book for pretty much everything, looks like there may be a niche that needs filling.


9 posted on 03/08/2014 2:53:22 PM PST by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: Salman

Statistical swings can be expected when comparing such a small population group to such a large one.


10 posted on 03/08/2014 2:53:29 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: Salman

I think we should be helping these folks become more successful in fulfilling their desires to become better at suicide.


11 posted on 03/08/2014 2:55:47 PM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: Salman

It’s all Bush’s and Republican’s fault .


12 posted on 03/08/2014 2:57:17 PM PST by Vinylly
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To: Salman

Our government promotes this instead of offering help for these confused people. Shameful.


13 posted on 03/08/2014 2:58:02 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: Salman

They need to do a study of how many of them were introduced to homosexual study when young. And then prosecute the perpetrators.


14 posted on 03/08/2014 3:00:19 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Salman

They are just being true to themselves.


15 posted on 03/08/2014 3:00:53 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Salman

Respondents to a survey say that 41% of them attempted suicide. Wonder then how many were successful and were in no position to answer the survey. Really don’t hear of late middle age or elderly transgenders. Do they die out?


16 posted on 03/08/2014 3:01:35 PM PST by allendale
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To: Salman

I wonder what the success rate is... are they both crazy and inept?


17 posted on 03/08/2014 3:03:34 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Salman

My best friend had a neighbor who was renting the lower floor of a two story house. He/she was a transgender working towards a compete reconfiguration to a female. “She” was not very stable psychologically and tried to commit suicide at least three times while she was living there. The last time was nearly fatal and “she” was taken to the state mental health facility for observation and assessment. I’ve no idea what happened to her, but she never returned. from my readings, it appears that deep seated psychological problems are common with the transgender crowd.


18 posted on 03/08/2014 3:06:15 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: Salman
As if we needed more evidence that “transgenders” are simply deeply,deeply disturbed individuals.
19 posted on 03/08/2014 3:12:10 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: cripplecreek
Stop pandering to mental illness and treat it.

This common-sense solution is just MEAN. We have to pander so we can feel good about ourselves.

20 posted on 03/08/2014 3:19:40 PM PST by madprof98
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To: Salman

Telling a man that he is a woman because he believes it to be so is akin to giving a sword and a funny hat to a man that believes that he is Napoleon and telling him that if he invades Russia he’ll feel better about himself.


21 posted on 03/08/2014 3:21:45 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: MasterGunner01
it appears that deep seated psychological problems are common with the transgender crowd.

Transgenderism IS a deep seated psychological problem.

22 posted on 03/08/2014 3:24:49 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: Salman

It’s all spelled out right here. The rest is just variations on a poorly written theme.

Borderline Personality Disorder DSM IV Criteria:

A pervasive pattern of instability of interpersonal relationships, self-image, and affects, and marked impulsivity beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

1. frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment. Note: Do not include suicidal or self-mutilating behavior covered in Criterion 5.

2. a pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation.

3. identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self.

4. impulsivity in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging (e.g., spending, sex, substance abuse, reckless driving, binge eating). Note: Do not include suicidal or self-mutilating behavior covered in Criterion 5.

5. recurrent suicidal behavior, gestures, or threats, or self-mutilating behavior

6. affective instability due to a marked reactivity of mood (e.g., intense episodic dysphoria, irritability, or anxiety usually lasting a few hours and only rarely more than a few days).

7. chronic feelings of emptiness

8. inappropriate, intense anger or difficulty controlling anger (e.g., frequent displays of temper, constant anger, recurrent physical fights)

9. transient, stress-related paranoid ideation or severe dissociative symptoms

The DSM IV goes on to say:

http://www.borderlinepersonalitytoday.com/main/dsmiv.htm


23 posted on 03/08/2014 3:25:05 PM PST by dagogo redux
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To: Salman

Being “transgendered” is prima facie proof of a screwed up life. It’s no wonder they are attempting suicide.


24 posted on 03/08/2014 3:29:47 PM PST by henkster (Communists never negotiate.)
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To: madprof98

We’re supposed to tell them “It gets better” but that’s a lie. They’ll be mentally ill and mutilated.

I’ll tell them it gets better when they get into mental health treatment and are trying to get over their illness.


25 posted on 03/08/2014 3:34:39 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Salman

It is not a surprised these poor unfortunate people are mentally ill.


26 posted on 03/08/2014 3:35:39 PM PST by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains' hen I ask t)
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To: cripplecreek
Couldn't agree more. A ‘transgender’ person has a personality disorder. And telling them they are just a ‘variation on normal’ (the definition attached to homosexuality since the 70’s) won't solve the problem. They need HELP. They should try to confront the FACT that every cell in their bodies shows DNA of the gender into which they were born. The psychiatrists who are slaves to political correctness should stop pretending that there is anything normal about ‘gender issues’ and try to help these people.
27 posted on 03/08/2014 3:43:21 PM PST by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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To: Salman

For this study to have any relevance they need to compare these suicide rates with those of other people with extreme mental illness.


28 posted on 03/08/2014 3:43:24 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Salman

“attempted” suicide? “Look at me, I attempted suicide”. They didn’t “attempt” very hard or they wouldn’t still be sucking up my oxygen.


29 posted on 03/08/2014 3:44:37 PM PST by Graybeard58 (God is not the author of confusion. 1 Cor 13: 33)
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To: Bushbacker1

“Did the guy inside kill the girl outside or visa versa?”

I don;t even know with these freaks. There could also be dogs involved in there somewhere..


30 posted on 03/08/2014 3:49:07 PM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Salman
if at first you don't succeed...
31 posted on 03/08/2014 3:52:34 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Particularly Christians and conservatives.


32 posted on 03/08/2014 4:02:45 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Salman

I read that transgendered/gender noncomforming persons living in Amsterdam, the “most tolerant” society known and where transgendered are accepted, have an equally high suicide rate. That was a surprise to me; I’d heard for years that bias drives suicide but compare with a non-biased society (or less so) the numbers don’t budge.

I feel for physicians on this one. If a person is requesting gender reassignment surgery, once can conclude that they are not adjusted to their present life and that’s why they want surgery. If a physician performs radical surgery (gender reassignment) on a person known to have severe adjustment issues and known to be a member of a extremely population with extremely high suicide rates, doesn’t the physician become vulnerable to litigation (wrongful death or?) “Dr., Please tell the court why you felt this member of a high suicide rate population known to be struggling with identity (adjustment) issues at the time you initially examined them seemed like a good candidate to undergo radical, possibly traumatic, surgery at this time?”


33 posted on 03/08/2014 4:08:55 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: Salman

This is very sad. It’s sad because even if the whole of society “accepted” the “transgender” scam, these people would still know that something is terribly wrong.

I don’t have the answers, but somehow I feel that the church doesn’t have enough of a hand extended to help these people. This is a spiritual problem, and only God can heal.


34 posted on 03/08/2014 4:13:47 PM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: Joe Boucher

I have a friend who chose upon this route. I don’t endorse it, but I’m always there when he needs to talk, and I don’t judge. Not my job IMHO.


35 posted on 03/08/2014 4:26:39 PM PST by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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To: Salman
Out of those who had been turned away by a doctor because they were transgender or gender-nonconforming

Why would a medical doctor turn away a patient because of their perception of gender?

I'm guessing by "doctor" they mean something different than I am thinking, and by "turn away" they mean something other than "refuse to treat for a physical illness".

I read somewhere that 25% of transgender people who go "all the way" to physical modification still commit suicide. My guess is that they THINK their problems are because of their gender (which is generally a reflection of bad sexual stereotypes), and so they go through the transgender steps, each time not feeling any better, and when they reach the end, and are still miserable, they give up and kill themselves.

And I think a lot of the suicides ARE because doctors won't "treat" transgender people -- as people who need emotional work. Instead, there is a great stigma that if you present in a stereotype of a different sex, you MUST change, or else you are a bigot. So people who in older times would have gotten actual counseling to "straighten out" (predictions on when that phrase will be striken from our language), are now instead forced to deny who they are.

I've read it in transgender writings on tumblr -- the fight they think they have to wage because their brain is telling them one thing, and their body is telling them another.

And while in every other case we'd tell people "be true to your nature, don't let other people's stereotypes mess you up", for transgender people we say "stereotypes are reality, whatever your poor brain thinks you MUST accept, even if every thing else in your body tells you otherwise."

So a guy who loves having sex with a girl, but thinks he is a "girl" because he is emotional, likes to get approval from others for appearance (look pretty), and thinks that "attractive dressing" is a way to get that approval, calls himself "transgender", says he is a "lesbian", his poor girlfriend of course puts up with this because she still has a man when it comes to the sack, plus females tend to stay in abusive relationships. And the guy changes his life to be a "woman", actually looks pretty good for the part, has the moves (mime training), but when he speaks, the words he says, the phrases, the thoughts expressed -- they are more male than the way I sometimes speak. And he's beginning to wonder if he needs to do hormones so he can have boobs (even though a lot of real girls don't like them), wants to wear dresses (even though a lot of real girls think dresses are stupid), and will consider physical surgery when he has enough money if he isn't "happy". There may be a few people who have a real problem, but I think a lot more just need to accept themselves as they are, and unfortunately the modern sex movement is extremely intolerant of anybody suggesting they need "help" to figure out their real sex.

36 posted on 03/08/2014 4:28:19 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: cripplecreek
People need to learn that not being happy with who you are and your station in life is ok, it's just a call to be something better.

Maybe sexuality is determined at birth, but you're either XX, XY, or have some other chromosome anomaly. Sexuality =/ sex.

37 posted on 03/08/2014 4:31:02 PM PST by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Exactly. It’s everyone else’s fault for not embracing their choice and viewing them as just as well adjusted as everyone else. [/s]

The mental gymnastics of such “reasoning” is simultaneously amazing and nauseating.


38 posted on 03/08/2014 4:43:21 PM PST by rbg81
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To: Salman

Highest suicide rate— imagine that, but it’s not a mental disease just like being a queer isn’t. Haha


39 posted on 03/08/2014 5:25:12 PM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Salman

I knew one of those he-she’s at Lockheed Martin. He-she wore high heels and a dress and grew long hair and also sported a beard. They had to build a special restroom for this “guy”. We had to attend a 3 hour training session on not discriminating against this “guy”. I guess he-she had Lockheed by the short hairs.


40 posted on 03/08/2014 5:27:43 PM PST by batterycommander (a little more rubble, a lot less trouble)
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To: Salman

“Trying” is a fake number, “trying” is what drama queens do over and over.

People who want to kill themselves, do, and rarely fail.


41 posted on 03/08/2014 5:36:34 PM PST by ansel12 (Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism.)
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To: batterycommander

A certain breed of these folks are also more narcissistic than the rest, hence desperate to feel “special.” If you won’t play along, they’ll use the system to force you to.


42 posted on 03/08/2014 6:33:14 PM PST by dagogo redux
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To: Salman

If we can’t get sexual reassignment surgery, we’ll kill ourselves.

http://youtu.be/NEaT6Si9ZLU


43 posted on 03/08/2014 7:20:25 PM PST by DakotaRed (Why not just pass a law requiring criminals to obey the laws?)
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To: ansel12

A mentally ill man in my neighborhood attempted to kill himself by setting his house on fire.

He was rescued and flown to the hospital in Tampa,which is an hour away from me.

Who would want to die in such a horrible way? I know he wasn’t well but dying in a fire would be excruciating.


44 posted on 03/08/2014 7:58:49 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I'm tired of the Liberals and their stupidity!)
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To: Salman

Have you seen the Transman Buck Angel?

You’d never guess this ‘man’ is really a biological female. It’s very disturbing.


45 posted on 03/08/2014 8:06:00 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I'm tired of the Liberals and their stupidity!)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

Some methods really baffle me, I don’t even understand jumping to one’s death.

The only possible thing that might convince me to pour gasoline over myself and burn to death, would be if there was a mime close by, that I could hug, on my way out.


46 posted on 03/08/2014 8:06:04 PM PST by ansel12 (Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism.)
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To: Salman

There was a show called Taxicab Confessions that was actually pretty good until they started to get more and more extreme with their fares. Anyway, this one guy had had the surgery, and he described to the cab driver how it had been done (”They split it like a banana split, stuff it inside,” etc.). Then, he said he felt suicidal partly because he didn’t get any sexual feeling from his fauxgina.


47 posted on 03/08/2014 8:06:54 PM PST by Rastus
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To: cripplecreek

Good advice, but the inmates are running the asylum now and we normal people are considered the crazies.


48 posted on 03/08/2014 8:20:17 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Salman

All of the “transgender” people I have known have had other serious mental problems. So this isn’t particularly surprising.


49 posted on 03/08/2014 11:59:46 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: gura

Long ago I worked with a guy, 6’3” swarthy red head who by noon had nearly a full beard.
More psychological problems than a meeting of the Red Hat society.


50 posted on 03/09/2014 4:06:22 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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