Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

DHS tells American border guards to run away from illegal immigrants hurling rocks at them
The Daily Caller ^ | 8 Mar 2014 | Neil Munro

Posted on 03/08/2014 4:43:35 PM PST by mandaladon

Top administration officials have directed 21,000 border patrol officers to retreat whenever illegal immigrants throw rocks at them, and to avoid getting in front of foreign drug-smugglers’ vehicles as they head north with their drug cargoes.

“Agents shall not discharge firearms in response to thrown or hurled projectiles… agents should obtain a tactical advantage in these situations, such as seeking cover or distancing themselves,” said the instructions, issued Mar. 7, under the signature of Michael Fisher, chief of U.S. Border Patrol.

Agents were also directed to keep their weapons holstered when drug smugglers drive by.

Agents can’t use guns against “a moving vehicle merely fleeing from agents,” say the instructions.

The new instructions do allow agents to use guns to defend themselves from vehicles that drive at them. “Agents shall not discharge their firearms at a moving vehicle unless the agent has a reasonable belief that… deadly force is being used against an agent,” the new instructions say.

However, the instructions also suggest that officers be penalized if they don’t step back. Agents “should not place themselves in the path of a motor vehicle or use their body to block a vehicles’s path,” according to new instructions.

The new curbs were praised by advocates for greater immigration, including Juanita Molina, director of the Border Action Network. New Jersey Democratic Sen. Robert Menendez, and Democratic Rep. Zoe Lofgren, according to the Los Angeles Times.

Menendez is one of the drafters of the June 2013 Senate immigration bill, which would boost the inflow of legal immigrants and guest workers up to 40 million over the next decade. During the same period, roughly 40 million Americans will turn 18.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amnesty; dhs; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; ins; obama
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-54 next last
The rules match the recommendation of a report by an advocacy group that wants to reduce policing of illegal immigration...................This is in full compliance with Obama's ideas about immigration.
1 posted on 03/08/2014 4:43:35 PM PST by mandaladon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: mandaladon
“Agents shall not discharge firearms in response to thrown or hurled projectiles… agents should obtain a tactical advantage in these situations, such as seeking cover or distancing themselves,”

Running away scared is a "tactical advantage"?

2 posted on 03/08/2014 4:47:56 PM PST by plain talk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mandaladon

Madness, just pure madness and evil. Why have a border patrol if they can’t apprehend illegals and are forbidden to obstruct drug smugglers?


3 posted on 03/08/2014 4:47:57 PM PST by CedarDave (Obama - "That's the good thing as a President, I can do whatever I want" (02/10/14 declaration))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mandaladon

Truly an effed up nation


4 posted on 03/08/2014 4:48:20 PM PST by onona (The entitlement army doesnÂ’t vote for candidates, they vote for gravy.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mandaladon

Drug smugglers may not have had a lot of fear before, but now, just have our Border Patrol wave them on through. Drug smugglers will only be emboldened by this policy. And the result will be that the problem will get worse and worse.


5 posted on 03/08/2014 4:48:46 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego (t)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mandaladon

Bush’s directive to unarmed troops on the border faced with an incursion from Cartel guys was the same —simply run away from your post.


6 posted on 03/08/2014 4:48:48 PM PST by gaijin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mandaladon

Now let me see, will there be an increase or decrease of illegals who cross the border and throw rocks at border agents. Ummmm?


7 posted on 03/08/2014 4:49:39 PM PST by morphing libertarian
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mandaladon

We’ve waved the white flag——it’s over.

.


8 posted on 03/08/2014 4:50:17 PM PST by Mears
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mandaladon

So heighten the use of force against citizens, and reduce the use of force against non citizens. Whose side is OUR government on? We have a 5th column in our midst.


9 posted on 03/08/2014 4:50:21 PM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deco et Vives)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mandaladon

Could we throw rocks at the white Hut?


10 posted on 03/08/2014 4:51:51 PM PST by mountainlion
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: gaijin

Ramos and Compean paid a high price for violating Bush’s “compassionate conservatism”.


11 posted on 03/08/2014 4:53:12 PM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: mandaladon

They will probably tell Border Patrol to ignore a girl being raped on the border for their own safety.

#waronwomen


12 posted on 03/08/2014 4:54:01 PM PST by ObamahatesPACoal
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mandaladon

These are the actions of a government that has been overtaken in a bloodless coup and is now acting as the enemy of the USA. These are ROIs that tell agents to do nothing to impede the invasion and they will get agents killed much like the restrictive ROIs in Afghanistan.


13 posted on 03/08/2014 4:54:42 PM PST by Truth29
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mandaladon

What about Hizb’allah and al Qaeda armed by
MANPADS from Obama/Clinton or the narcoterrorists
with Obama/Holder Fast&Furious Guns?

Throwing rocks, indeed.

The US is lost ONLY because of the hated, selfserving
EXEMPT US Congress endlessly wanting to PLEASE
the treasonous useless-as-a-rotting-dead-horse MS”M”.


14 posted on 03/08/2014 4:56:12 PM PST by Diogenesis
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mandaladon
run away RUN AWAY!!!
15 posted on 03/08/2014 4:58:37 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mandaladon

And liberals wonder why Putin laughs at Obama?


16 posted on 03/08/2014 4:59:22 PM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mandaladon

Sounds like the ROE in Afghanistan and Iraq.


17 posted on 03/08/2014 4:59:26 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mandaladon

Might as well disarm the border patrol agent and give them bottles of water to hand out to illegals along with a map to all the liberal states who will welcome them with freebees.


18 posted on 03/08/2014 5:00:12 PM PST by ImNotLying (The Right To Bear Arms: Making good people helpless won't make bad people harmless!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mandaladon

Strange, the official US Border patrol govt website says just the opposite- viz

. On May 28, 1924, Congress passed the Labor Appropriation Act of 1924,
officially establishing the U.S. Border Patrol for the purpose of securing
the borders between inspection stations. In 1925 its duties were expanded to pat
.Border Patrol Role Expands
Legislation in 1952 codified and carried forward the essential elements of the 1917 and 1924 acts. The same year, Border Patrol agents were first permitted to board and search a conveyance for illegal immigrants anywhere in the United States. For the first time, illegal entrants traveling within the country were subject to arrest.
...In 1952, the government airlifted 52,000 illegal immigrants back to the Mexican interior.

...Throughout the early 1950s, a special taskforce of 800 Border Patrol agents was assigned by the United States Attorney General to round up and ship home thousands of illegal immigrants in southern California.

...Early 1960,... The Border Patrol assisted other agencies in intercepting illegal drugs from Mexico.

Today’s Border Patrol
The 1980s and 1990s saw a tremendous increase of illegal migration to America. The Border Patrol responded with increases in manpower and the implementation of modern technology. Infrared night-vision scopes, seismic sensors, and a modern computer processing system helped the Patrol locate, apprehend, and process those crossing into the U.S. illegally.

...The U.S. Border Patrol continues its efforts to control our nation’s borders”

http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/border_security/border_patrol/border_patrol_ohs/history.xml


19 posted on 03/08/2014 5:01:19 PM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ImNotLying

thats coming that is coming,,,

obama is said to be preparing to address the nation with a list of new tactical advantges sometime near the first of April,....


20 posted on 03/08/2014 5:02:21 PM PST by MeshugeMikey (Jesus came to Save not Entertain / Ground John Kerry Now!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Chode

Maybe we should give them a pointed stick?


21 posted on 03/08/2014 5:03:58 PM PST by DanielRedfoot (Creepy Ass Cracker)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: MeshugeMikey

Put the heads of the drug dealers and coyotes on sticks and place them in the corridor. The illegals will turn around and go home very quickly.


22 posted on 03/08/2014 5:06:31 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Insurgent Conservative)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Chode

But obviously that would be no defense against a giant wooden rabbit...
But he’ll, I don’t work for the state department so what do I know


23 posted on 03/08/2014 5:06:44 PM PST by DanielRedfoot (Creepy Ass Cracker)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: DanielRedfoot
LOLOL!!! tooo funny
24 posted on 03/08/2014 5:09:16 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Dilbert San Diego

Border Patrol could set up Travel Kiosks at the border...offer travel tips, maps and hotel discount coupons.


25 posted on 03/08/2014 5:09:47 PM PST by moovova
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: EQAndyBuzz

Rock attacks will sky rocket immediately.


26 posted on 03/08/2014 5:12:30 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: mandaladon
Canada and the US used to have 'the longest undefended border in the world'. Not any more, I guess. Sounds like there is more defence of the northern border than ther southern border. Brings new meaning to Estados Unidos de América Hola gringos!
27 posted on 03/08/2014 5:14:47 PM PST by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind, but now I see...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mandaladon

Well if they can’t shoot at them, they can’t shoot at us.

Better get some County Mounties and State Patrol down there. Looks like a good application for all those wild-ass SWAT teams.

They got armored personell carriers, tanks....BLACK HELICOPTERS!


28 posted on 03/08/2014 5:15:38 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mandaladon

IOW, curl up in the fetal position and whimper like babies.


29 posted on 03/08/2014 5:20:36 PM PST by bgill
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mandaladon

This frees up the DHS to harass US citizens driving down the road and their TSA goons to feel up old ladies and little kids.


30 posted on 03/08/2014 5:22:38 PM PST by Organic Panic
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TADSLOS

Ramos paid the price. I hope Compean is enjoying his new career as an unarmed mall cop.


31 posted on 03/08/2014 5:30:03 PM PST by 1rudeboy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: mandaladon

If the rock-throwing illegals can’t kill or maim an agent(s) with a rock, the next-best thing would be to have them run away from them.


32 posted on 03/08/2014 5:31:37 PM PST by luvbach1 (We are finished)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mandaladon

If they are standing on U.S. property as illegal aliens while hurling rocks at our law enforcement ... shoot 'em. If they are not standing on U.S. property ... return the rocks to them using your best fastball pitch. When dealing with a playground bully, running away is not an option. That will only make the beating you take another day worse. And, running away to tell the teacher only works while the teacher is bigger and stronger. It's not a helpful strategy when the bully is full grown.


33 posted on 03/08/2014 5:34:50 PM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: All
Our Border Patrol in action.


34 posted on 03/08/2014 5:37:32 PM PST by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: mandaladon

Surprised DHS didn’t tell the troops to do the old cowboy trick of shooting the rocks out of their hands, or nailing the rocks mid-flight.

Now that would be entertainment.


35 posted on 03/08/2014 5:38:35 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TADSLOS; mandaladon
Ramos and Compean paid a high price for violating Bush's "compassionate conservatism".

I checked on my about page and noted my New Years wishes for 2009. One was for Conrad Black to be returned to Canada from his American jail. The other was for the two border agents to be returned to their families. These wishes were granted and Conrad Black had to wait longer though.

I put a heartfelt "thanks" shortly after on my remarks and then did a bit of checking. It was George W Bush himself that pardoned the two men. I now have mixed feelings cos' I shouted a "God bless" to the world at the time. Now it seems W has to bear some blame according to some posts. Always liked this president.

I do pray these good men are now well and truly settled in their lives.

36 posted on 03/08/2014 5:48:18 PM PST by Peter Libra
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: mandaladon
This is in full compliance with Obama's ideas about immigration.

Bull. This is right out of Jorge Busho's playbook.

37 posted on 03/08/2014 5:48:32 PM PST by LouAvul (In a state of disbelief as to how liberals destroyed America in a mere 40 years.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mandaladon

This entire administration is just one outrage after another! The system was meant for people with a sense of ethics, fair play, honor, morality...the founders never imagined people like the progressives. Accordingly they never put any safeguards into place to combat them. Even if we had a united Republican party against them I don’t know there is much we could do given what the progressives control.


38 posted on 03/08/2014 6:09:40 PM PST by Castigar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mandaladon

Is harsh language allowed?


39 posted on 03/08/2014 6:12:59 PM PST by alpo (What would Selco do?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: EQAndyBuzz

And then put on sticks the heads of the idiots who came up with this policy. I’m serious.


40 posted on 03/08/2014 6:19:36 PM PST by jmacusa ("Chasing God out of the classroom didn't usher in The Age of Reason''.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: mandaladon

Bump


41 posted on 03/08/2014 6:25:04 PM PST by lowbridge
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: gaijin

Is your main function simply to bash Bush?
Can you let it go!!

Last I checked, it’s now 2014, we have a new battle, stay focused!!!!!


42 posted on 03/08/2014 6:33:55 PM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: EQAndyBuzz

That’s at least a good start.


43 posted on 03/08/2014 7:39:56 PM PST by EinNYC
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: gaijin

Reference?


44 posted on 03/08/2014 7:47:05 PM PST by Smellin Salt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Castigar
the founders never imagined people like the progressives. Accordingly they never put any safeguards into place to combat them.

They did, but the supposed 'good guys' are too afraid to use the tools available to them. Libs might call 'em names, you know.

45 posted on 03/08/2014 7:50:42 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: Truth29

Stolen elections have consequences.


46 posted on 03/08/2014 9:18:10 PM PST by x_plus_one (No one likes you in the future, you lazy, self-centered, civically ignorant sheep.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: mandaladon

dereliction of duty at the top....


47 posted on 03/08/2014 9:28:46 PM PST by rolling_stone
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mandaladon

How about ya shoot em and leave em to rot where they fall?


48 posted on 03/09/2014 5:22:00 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: EQAndyBuzz; jmacusa; headsonpikes

They’re not called “sticks”; they’re called “pikes”.


49 posted on 03/09/2014 10:18:00 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: mandaladon

bama administration is protecting drug cartels and human traffickers.


50 posted on 03/09/2014 5:23:40 PM PDT by moonshinner_09
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-54 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson