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Obama Surgeon General Wants Doctors to Ask Patients About Guns in Home–Part of Obamacare Database
Gateway Pundit ^ | March 8, 2014 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 03/08/2014 7:22:41 PM PST by lbryce

Full Title:Obama Surgeon General Pick Wants Doctors to Ask Patients About Guns in Home – Include Info in Obamacare Database

Vivek was the co-founder and president of “Doctors for America,” which began as “Doctors for Obama in 2008.”

Vivek also wants doctors to ask patients, including children, if there are any firearms in their home. This would be included on their file that would be shared with several government agencies under Obamacare. Investor’s Business Daily reported:

Murthy is the 36-year-old president and co-founder of the anti-gun group Doctors for America, which advocates ObamaCare and gun control laws.

His group, which has been dubbed “Docs vs. Glocks,” has pushed Congress to ban “assault” weapons and “high-capacity” magazines.

He also wants to spend more tax dollars on more research to prove that fewer guns mean a lower crime rate, despite the fact that a number of reputable studies prove the opposite.

At a recent hearing before the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, Sen. Lamar Alexander inquired about Murthy’s social media comments on firearms, such as this tweet before the 2012 presidential election: “Tired of politicians playing politics w/ guns, putting lives at risk b/c they’re scared of NRA. Guns are a health care issue.”

Murthy’s Twitter timeline is chock-full of his anti-firearms screeds.

“NRA press conference disappointing but predictable — blame everything in the world except guns for the Newtown tragedy. #wakeup,” he tweeted in December 2012.

Doctors for America has also promoted the invasion of privacy by doctors by allowing them to ask patients if they have guns at home, including asking children if their parents own guns, and pushing back against Florida Gov. Rick Snyder’s decision to sign into law a bill prohibiting doctors there from asking the question.

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KEYWORDS: bamacaregundatabase; banglist; doctorsandguns; guns
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If all guns are registered, the administration would have a way to get the number of guns owned by ObamaCare enrolees on their own. So, this is an attempt to get to find out about those who possess unregistered guns. I don't know. Possessing unregistered guns, would that be illegal?

What sends a shiver up and down my spine is the suggestion to use family members to provide information otherwise not being privy to via direct inquiry of heads of the household.

This was a tactic encouraged by another doctor, one from a different era, Dr. Joseph Goebbels, who had many a parent shipped off to the concentration camps in response to information provided by their own children. So, unknowingly, I'm sure members of the Obama administration, obama himself to be unaware that having children spy on their own parents has already been implemented, facilitated in another dreaded dictator-ship with success.


Often referred to as the most ominous stare in history


1 posted on 03/08/2014 7:22:41 PM PST by lbryce
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To: lbryce

When asked, “Do you have a gun in your home?”, just answer truthfully and say, “No, I do not have “A” gun in my home.”


2 posted on 03/08/2014 7:26:46 PM PST by gop4lyf (Are we no longer in that awkward time? Or is it still too early?)
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To: lbryce

3 posted on 03/08/2014 7:27:31 PM PST by Diogenesis
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To: lbryce

Dr. Goebbels looks like Rahm Emanuel. Just sayin’.


4 posted on 03/08/2014 7:29:06 PM PST by madison10
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To: lbryce

If asked say no. You are not under oath. You can say none of your business which is correct but you will then make “The List”.


5 posted on 03/08/2014 7:29:19 PM PST by AU72
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To: lbryce

everyone should answer it the same:

we have many rifles, shotguns, handguns and a couple of cannons.. why?

make them investigate everyone and overload the system.

two can play the overload game


6 posted on 03/08/2014 7:29:35 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: gop4lyf

My answer would be,

“Break in some night and find out!”


7 posted on 03/08/2014 7:31:11 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: lbryce

Q. Do you have a gun in your house?
A. My middle name is Lois Lerner. I plead the Fifth.
I Refuse To Answer On The Grounds That I May Incriminate Myself


8 posted on 03/08/2014 7:34:29 PM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: sten

I will bring my gun to the “interview”. Gun grabbers just can’t wait to strip their oppostion’s guns so they can bring out the brownshirts with fully loaded automatic assault weapons to remove the last obstacle to their implementation of the Agenda 21 Utopia


9 posted on 03/08/2014 7:35:09 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: lbryce

We knew this was coming. The bastards are gonna keep trying...


10 posted on 03/08/2014 7:35:33 PM PST by FAA
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To: lbryce

I don’t have a gun. I have a bunch of pistols and and a couple of rifles.


11 posted on 03/08/2014 7:35:47 PM PST by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: lbryce

The right answer is NONE OF YOUR F******** BUSINESS.

End of discussion.


12 posted on 03/08/2014 7:36:47 PM PST by ZULU (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: lbryce

Answer none ya! None ya?” asks the doc. Yea, none ya bizness!


13 posted on 03/08/2014 7:40:42 PM PST by nomad
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To: lbryce
Vivek:


14 posted on 03/08/2014 7:42:12 PM PST by gaijin
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To: lbryce

Either that or do an O`Bozo, lie like a rug!


15 posted on 03/08/2014 7:42:32 PM PST by nomad
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To: lbryce

Not just no but HELL NO!!!!


16 posted on 03/08/2014 7:42:57 PM PST by Nifster
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To: gaijin

Let me think about that Doc. How about you? Do you have one protecting your house? Do you keep it locked up? I would like to know how you secure yours so I can consider your medical knowledge to protect my household.


17 posted on 03/08/2014 7:46:43 PM PST by KC Burke (Officially since Memorial Day they are the Gimmie-crat Party.ha)
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To: AU72
If asked say no. You are not under oath. You can say none of your business which is correct but you will then make “The List”.

Adults will do this but how about when your children or teenager is at the doctors? Are they going to lie correctly or are they going to mess up? Especially after being bombarded by anti-gun propaganda in school for a few years

18 posted on 03/08/2014 7:47:02 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: AU72
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

19 posted on 03/08/2014 7:48:51 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: lbryce
Nope. No guns in my house Doc. I hate the damned things.


20 posted on 03/08/2014 7:49:24 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (If Barack Hussein Obama entertains a thought that he does not verbalize, is it still a lie?)
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To: gaijin

Are you bullsh^^ing me?


21 posted on 03/08/2014 7:50:04 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: lbryce

Screw this. As a physician I will just refuse to comply. Shove it up you ass, facsists.


22 posted on 03/08/2014 7:50:46 PM PST by JusPasenThru (Posting here = IRS audit.)
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To: gaijin

Isn’t he cute in his Brigham and Women’s white coat.


23 posted on 03/08/2014 7:52:12 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: sten

“Just my science project.”


24 posted on 03/08/2014 7:54:34 PM PST by clearcarbon
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To: gaijin

Now there is the face of a man who should be familiar with scrubbing a toilet.
With his head.


25 posted on 03/08/2014 7:55:33 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: lbryce

Obama Surgeon General Pick Wants Doctors to Ask Patients About Guns in Home – Include Info in Obamacare Database

That is a political question.
I do not answer political question posed by a doctor.


26 posted on 03/08/2014 8:00:34 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2014 and the Crusades 2014?)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

Me either... or NOYB (none of your business.


27 posted on 03/08/2014 8:01:48 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: lbryce

He also wants to spend more tax dollars on more research to prove that fewer guns mean a lower crime rate, despite the fact that a number of reputable studies prove the opposite

Proof that it is nopt aboput safety and certainly not about honesty. It is about pushing a personal agenda.


28 posted on 03/08/2014 8:03:08 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2014 and the Crusades 2014?)
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To: gop4lyf

I would give the easiest answer since it wouldn’t be under oath.

But shocking that they’d expect to use doctors as spying devices.

We are but units of measure to them - taxpaying devices, voting devices, who, when we are no longer of use to the state will face expulsion from the state - via our “health” care system. Of course....this will all just be for the benefit of the whole. /s

These people are monsters!


29 posted on 03/08/2014 8:10:24 PM PST by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: lbryce

One answer might be, I don’t have a quarter of the guns my liberal neighbors have. And they have dynamite and hand grenades too. Would you like their names and addresses?


30 posted on 03/08/2014 8:14:21 PM PST by lurk
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To: gop4lyf

I had to go to the ER few months ago and the clerk asked me that question and I said NO. I could tell the clerk was embarass. He told me “I am sorry to ask you this but I have to”.


31 posted on 03/08/2014 8:21:49 PM PST by Patriot Babe
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To: AU72; Yehuda
If asked say no. You are not under oath. You can say none of your business which is correct but you will then make “The List”.

Some months ago a FReeper posted a very good comment about getting past the discomfort many people have with lying.

Simply that we are under no moral obligation to answer questions [honestly] that are asked by dishonest, immoral characters who have no business asking such questions in the first place. They are up to no good, trying to exploit people who value honesty and integrity in order use their good character against them.

These government agents are no different than thieves who demand PINs to the debit cards or the officials who asked God-fearing citizens if there were any Jews in their homes.

And another thing, these "health professionals" obviously aren't in the business of putting patients' health first. They work for those who pay them, bowing to the demands of their masters. Patients intuitively perceive the danger so no wonder they end up lying about all sorts of truly relevant things "just to be on the safe side".

Idiots who clamor for socialized medicine make the fatal mistake of assuming that the collective that pays the bill cares if patients live. Or they figure that their fellow travelers in the industry will somehow provide.

If "firearms safety" were truly the purpose for the invasive questions (isn't that what they always claim?), there would be NO NEED for the invasive question. After all, any patient may encounter guns/gun owners at any time... friends, family members, etc. Or in the time between routine appointments, a patient or family member in the home may choose to purchase a firearm. Gee then, wouldn't *everyone* benefit from these important safety tips? Ownership specifics shouldn't matter, if safety/injury prevention were the real motive. Uhuh...

32 posted on 03/08/2014 8:25:54 PM PST by Ezekiel (All who mourn the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: lbryce

Well, doc, I used to have a nice collection, but I lost them in a boating accident.


33 posted on 03/08/2014 8:26:50 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: All

I have to say I know one liberal who owns a gun and I don’t want to be in the same city with the guy. He’s nuts.


34 posted on 03/08/2014 8:27:39 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: dennisw
Adults will do this but how about when your children or teenager is at the doctors? Are they going to lie correctly or are they going to mess up? Especially after being bombarded by anti-gun propaganda in school for a few years

I guess that's another good reason to never allow the doctor or nurse or PA to ever talk privately with any of your children under the age of 18. Hopefully any kids above 18 would not purposely turn their parents into the socialist/RAT Bastard/demoCRAP/fascist Marxists. Hopefully our kids will realize we are at full blown war already in this country against the evil demonic left wing forces & ideology!

35 posted on 03/08/2014 8:35:54 PM PST by rcrngroup
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To: lbryce
If ever asked that my response would be....”no,none at home but I have one on my hip”.
36 posted on 03/08/2014 8:37:32 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: gop4lyf

Just say “no”


37 posted on 03/08/2014 8:38:23 PM PST by jyro (French-like Democrats wave the white flag of surrender while we are winning)
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To: lbryce
This is getting deep,,,, real deep and real serious. These gun grabbing scum bag commies can kiss my Cajun a$$. Want my guns libtarts? Come git em if you dare!!!! Tea Party email subscribers just received this earlier on. Click on "TEA PARTY". I URGE YOU TO CLICK ON IT.

TEA PARTY

38 posted on 03/08/2014 8:59:03 PM PST by progunner (no compromise)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There you go again with Solzhenitsyn :-)

It IS right, however.

39 posted on 03/08/2014 9:19:31 PM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: lbryce

Do you have any firearms in your home?

Not right now because I’m not there. I’ve got it in my pocket along with my concealed carry permit. Want to see it, doc?

Shiite. I had an appointment with a crusty old Viet Nam vet a few days ago and noticed he was packing. I asked if I could see it. S&W M&P Compact .40 cal. Nice piece. He told me he’s too old to fight or to run. I agreed with him.

Dangit! I forgot to make a note of that in his health record...


40 posted on 03/08/2014 9:23:45 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED.)
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To: gop4lyf
When asked, “Do you have a gun in your home?”, just answer truthfully and say, “No, I do not have “A” gun in my home.”

Just tell them no, no matter how many you may have. F them.

41 posted on 03/08/2014 9:26:19 PM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: JusPasenThru

Are you accepting new patients?


42 posted on 03/08/2014 9:57:04 PM PST by lafroste
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To: Mark17

I have absolutely NO problem saying “It’s none of your business what I have or don’t have, in the privacy of my home.”
Docs may be required to ask, but I’m NOT required to answer.

Secondly, though my children are grown now, I NEVER allowed a doctor to be alone in the room with my children, PERIOD.

Thirdly, I also have NO problem firing a doctor, a plumber, a nurse, a cabinet hanger, housekeeper or any other person whom *I* hire, and pay, to work for ME.

If people are foolish enough to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars, blood, sweat and tears to become doctors, and they allow government to walk on them like that, then they really don’t belong in medicine.


43 posted on 03/08/2014 10:02:01 PM PST by PrairieLady2
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To: Ezekiel
... we are under no moral obligation to answer questions [honestly] that are asked by dishonest, immoral characters who have no business asking such questions in the first place.

The President is Liar in Chief, and every component of this government lies, to us and to the world.

At the point where a "health care professional" becomes a political agent for the State, I no longer trust that individual to look out for my best interests as a patient. I will go through the motions with them, and answer their questions in a manner designed to attract the least attention, and I will affect a demeanor that is passive, and dull, and compliant ... just what progressives want from their livestock.

And BTW, if we really are at the point where we cannot interact with our doctor without fear of political blackmail ...

44 posted on 03/08/2014 10:06:54 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: spodefly

Nothing the goose stepping fascists do anymore surprises me. It’s getting to look a lot like the good ole days of the Third Reich. Time to get rid of these Demonkrats and their ilk.


45 posted on 03/08/2014 10:13:52 PM PST by Busko (The only thing that is certain is that nothing is certain.)
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To: gaijin

That mozzie in the lab coat looks like Obama borrowed him from al-Qaeda.

Don’t mind the MOSLEM trying to grab your guns, folks.

Islam is the Religion of Peace™


46 posted on 03/08/2014 11:04:13 PM PST by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: LyinLibs

“Do I have any Jews in my house? Why would you want to know if there any Jews in my house?”


47 posted on 03/08/2014 11:52:46 PM PST by namvolunteer (Obama says the US is subservient to the UN and the Constitution does not apply. That is treason.r)
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To: lbryce
The only way to make them understand what its like to have your name added to an enemies list (which is really what this is) is to list their names as well. FR could keep a current thread open detailing these experiences for future consideration.
48 posted on 03/09/2014 12:09:46 AM PST by Brass Lamp
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers......

Now, that's what I call Czarist English....

49 posted on 03/09/2014 12:23:46 AM PST by lbryce (Obama:The Worst is Yet To Come)
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To: gaijin

The arrogance of that sneering stare & those folded arms just leaps out at you.

Glowering Goebbels didn’t like people offhandedly taking his picture. But our new SurgGen looks like he has just been handed vast dictatorial powers.

For the record, I have found most Indian physicians born & raised here to be thoroughly American & likeable. But the ones who came here from India are insufferably high-caste and arrogant. This one sounds like one of the latter.


50 posted on 03/09/2014 4:42:21 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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