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Air force chief: Malaysia jet may have turned back
The Telegraph ^ | March 9m 2014 | By CHRIS BRUMMITT and EILEEN NG

Posted on 03/09/2014 6:08:50 AM PDT by COUNTrecount

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia — Military radar indicates that the missing Boeing 777 jet may have turned back before vanishing, Malaysia's air force chief said Sunday as authorities were investigating up to four passengers with suspicious identifications.

The revelations add to the uncertainties surrounding the final minutes of flight MH370, which was carrying 239 people when it lost contact with ground controllers somewhere between Malaysia and Vietnam after leaving Kuala Lumpur early Saturday morning for Beijing.

Air force chief Rodzali Daud didn't say which direction the plane veered when it apparently went off course, or how long it flew in that direction.

"We are trying to make sense of this," he told a media conference. "The military radar indicated that the aircraft may have made a turn back and in some parts, this was corroborated by civilian radar."

(Excerpt) Read more at macon.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airplane; iran; malaysia; mh370; waronterror
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1 posted on 03/09/2014 6:08:50 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: COUNTrecount

Israelis and other sources say the plane definitely DID turn around without consultation or warning.


2 posted on 03/09/2014 6:12:13 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto

Was their radio broken?


3 posted on 03/09/2014 6:19:43 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: cuban leaf

Pretty sure they were hijacked. I have been thinking this since yesterday....just too many odd things.


4 posted on 03/09/2014 6:21:46 AM PDT by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: COUNTrecount

How did they know do soon that some passports were fuddled with?


5 posted on 03/09/2014 6:23:04 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/ http://thepurginglutheran.tumblr.com/)
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To: jjotto

Could an aircraft which was affected by an explosion or loss of control look on radar like a plane turning back? Just a thought.

CC


6 posted on 03/09/2014 6:23:41 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: cuban leaf

Other threads have mentioned automatic pinging on this plane, so it’s not just a question of failed radios. I’m guessing it took some very specific knowledge to stop the automated features an hour before the plane actually disappeared.

FReepers with more specific knowledge of the plane will chime in, I’m sure.


7 posted on 03/09/2014 6:24:06 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: InvisibleChurch
How did they know do soon that some passports were fuddled with?

Just heard on BBC that Interpol has database of millions of stolen passport numbers. Seems that security check was not done (or terrorists had a helpful agent at the counter).

8 posted on 03/09/2014 6:26:39 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: MarMema

Yep. If there was no radio contact it means one of three things: The whole plane “failed” unexpectedly (exploded, Flight 800 style). It was hijacked. The radio was broken.

And the odds of the latter happening are rather unlikely.


9 posted on 03/09/2014 6:26:58 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: cuban leaf
"(exploded, Flight 800 style)"

Faulty wiring in the fuel tanks?


10 posted on 03/09/2014 6:35:29 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: cuban leaf

Some articles have ruled out an explosion saying it would have been picked up by satellites?


11 posted on 03/09/2014 6:39:12 AM PDT by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: don-o

That explains the five people who cancelled out at the last minute. They were the back up team in case their buddies got flagged by the passports.


12 posted on 03/09/2014 6:40:21 AM PDT by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: Rodamala
am thinking an explosion or catastrophic failure would leave behind a debris field with bodies and pieces floating about

"Saturday's disappearance of a Malaysia Airlines 777 jet echoes an incident in 2007, when a Boeing 737 with 102 people on board disappeared during a flight between two Indonesian cities."

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/malaysian-jets-disappearance-sets-echoes-2007-crash-n47601

Took weeks to locate

13 posted on 03/09/2014 6:43:05 AM PDT by saywhatagain
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"(exploded, Flight 800 style)"

Faulty wiring in the fuel tanks?

For which the whole Boeing 747 fleet should have been grounded to affect repairs. But this was never done. What does that tell you?

14 posted on 03/09/2014 6:43:31 AM PDT by JohnG45
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To: don-o
exactly

also same report said;

When an Air India plane crashed in Mangalore in 2010 en route from Dubai, with the loss of 158 lives, as many 10 fraudulent passports were recovered.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26503141

15 posted on 03/09/2014 6:52:27 AM PDT by saywhatagain
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To: saywhatagain; don-o; InvisibleChurch

Data from Interpol show there were 39 million lost or stolen passports as at the end of last year.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/four-flew-with-false-id-aboard-malaysia-airlines-plane-that-vanished-over-south-china-sea/2014/03/09/4b0d8a8c-a763-11e3-b61e-8051b8b52d06_story.html?algtrack=cfrec-0&tid=btm_rex_1


16 posted on 03/09/2014 7:02:30 AM PDT by LucyT (If you're NOT paranoid, you don't know what's going on.)
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To: MarMema

There is no debris. Think 9/11 when the plane was driven straight into the field. No debris there either.


17 posted on 03/09/2014 7:08:38 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: JohnG45

“For which the whole Boeing 747 fleet should have been grounded to affect repairs. But this was never done. What does that tell you?”

Yep, if I recall, the FAA let the Airlines make “the Fix” during regular Maint. schedules.


18 posted on 03/09/2014 7:19:22 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: InvisibleChurch
How did they know do soon that some passports were fuddled with?

As with *any* missing, or destroyed aircraft, they checked the passenger manifest, and the name of an individual appeared, who was not only *not* on that plane, but had reported his passport stolen months ago.

That began further investigations which revealed that more than one passport listed on the manifest was suspicious...

the infowarrior

19 posted on 03/09/2014 7:42:03 AM PDT by infowarrior
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To: infowarrior

It will be interesting if the four or five passengers who never got on the plane also have stolen passports.


20 posted on 03/09/2014 7:53:37 AM PDT by COUNTrecount (There's no there there.)
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