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Missing Malaysia Airlines plane: Interpol says it's 'examining additional suspect passports'
The Strait Times ^ | March 9, 2014

Posted on 03/09/2014 6:43:26 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

ROME (Reuters) - International police agency Interpol said at least two passports recorded as lost or stolen in its database were used by passengers on board a missing Malaysia Airlines flight, and said it was "examining additional suspect passports" on Sunday.

Interpol said no checks of its database had been made by any country on an Austrian and an Italian passport between the time that they were stolen and the departure of the flight.

"Whilst it is too soon to speculate about any connection between these stolen passports and the missing plane, it is clearly of great concern that any passenger was able to board an international flight using a stolen passport listed in Interpol's databases," Interpol Secretary General Ronald Noble said in a statement.


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1 posted on 03/09/2014 6:43:26 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I don’t fly internationally and don’t have a passport. Are passports checked for anything? I know you need a picture. Would being stolen not be flagged at some point?


2 posted on 03/09/2014 6:49:56 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

Yes, passports are run through multiple databases when checking in at the airport. Agents around the world follow a similar protocol. Not sure if there is an international standard or if each nation sets their rules.


3 posted on 03/09/2014 6:55:15 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/03/09/malaysia-airlines-loses-contact-with-plane-carrying-23-people/

Earlier, Malaysia’s air force chief told reporters that military radar indicated that the plane may have turned from its flight route before losing contact.

Air force chief Rodzali Daud didn’t say which direction the plane might have taken when it apparently went off route.

“We are trying to make sense of this,” he told a media conference. “The military radar indicated that the aircraft may have made a turn back and in some parts, this was corroborated by civilian radar.”


4 posted on 03/09/2014 6:56:51 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: ilovesarah2012

It is just not believable that stolen passports were not caught. The passports themselves can be flagged in computer systems of course, there are computer chips in pports too that can be read not only at check-in but in other areas of the airports [security for example.]

How did the stolen pports defeat these measures AND the measures we don’t know about?

Is this strangeness related to the disappearance?

Sounds to me like an episode of Burn Notice.


5 posted on 03/09/2014 7:01:06 AM PDT by Principled
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To: Principled

Maybe a person on the ground in the check in process was a collaborator?


6 posted on 03/09/2014 7:03:58 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: Principled
No, no, no.

Didn't you read this part?

it is too soon to speculate about any connection between these stolen passports and the missing plane

You can't do that yet.

7 posted on 03/09/2014 7:07:36 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: CaptainK

Interpol: No database checks pre-flight

INTERPOL SAYS NO COUNTRY checked its database for information about stolen passports that were used to board the Malaysia Airlines flight that disappeared with 239 people on board while en route to China, as Azharuddin Abdul Rahman, director general of the Department of Civil Aviation, top right, said Sunday finding the plane is the ‘utmost priority,’ while family members await word of their loved ones.

http://www.foxnews.com/


8 posted on 03/09/2014 7:10:57 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Principled

I read that not all countries subscribe to the Interpol database that automatically checks passport numbers.

It’s very simple - when I had my passport stolen a few years ago, I was issued a new one with a new number by the US Embassy in the country where I was at that time, and the old number immediately entered the stolen passports database and would have turned up immediately if anyone had tried to use it.

But you have to consult the database, and perhaps they didn’t do so - until after the plane disappeared.


9 posted on 03/09/2014 7:17:10 AM PDT by livius
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To: ilovesarah2012

That’s interesting. In other words, Malaysian security didn’t bother to check passport validity. I wonder if this was standard, or if somebody intentionally omitted the check this time.


10 posted on 03/09/2014 7:18:33 AM PDT by livius
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To: Izzy Dunne
kind of like a Batman episode when they ask those questions before a commercial...

Were the Caped-Crusader and Boy Wonder pulverized by stolen passport wielding spy-thugs? Or was it all just a run of Dynamic-duo bad luck?

11 posted on 03/09/2014 7:18:42 AM PDT by Principled
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To: livius

This tells me that there was a catastrophic failure at multiple security points.

The pports were not ever checked more than visually - not ever! Not at check in, not at security, not at the gate... and those are just the points I know about.,

stinks


12 posted on 03/09/2014 7:21:38 AM PDT by Principled
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To: livius
But you have to consult the database, and perhaps they didn’t do so - until after the plane disappeared.

If they did not run the pports thru the system, how did they know, for example, the pport number? What did they do, write it down on a piece of scratch paper as the individual checked in?

I the pport was ever run thru the system, it would be caught. And you have to run it to check in at least. On int'l flights this is a big deal. How it could not be done is just unthinkable.

But if it was never run thru, how did they have such info to run after the fact?

13 posted on 03/09/2014 7:27:02 AM PDT by Principled
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To: livius

Hope they eventually get to the truth.


14 posted on 03/09/2014 7:31:41 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: livius

Don’t know how factual this is:

http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/content/dam/mas/master/en/pdf/Malaysia%20Airlines%20Flight%20MH%20370%20Passenger%20Manifest.pdf

Passenger manifest. Several muslim names, it appears.


15 posted on 03/09/2014 7:40:19 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I have not been following this very closely, but I thought they found oil slicks where the plane went down? So they don’t know where the plane is? Would it be possible that it landed somewhere or would it have been tracked by multiple radars if this were the case? I would have thought that the black box could be tracked by satellite.


16 posted on 03/09/2014 7:42:46 AM PDT by TBall
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To: Principled
It is just not believable that stolen passports were not caught.

Well, this is asia, so it's readily believable. As long as officials seem to be doing something that looks like checking, that's good enough. After this tragedy though, they might start checking for real.

17 posted on 03/09/2014 7:49:24 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: Principled
The airline and Boeing know more info about this flight than they are revealing. If you remember Air France Flight 447, which went down in the South Atlantic in 2009, there was real time telemetry being sent every few seconds to airline maintenance,it told the heading, engine configuration airspeed, 28 parameters if I recall.
The B-777 is a most sophisticated airliner and was surely transmitting data until the end
18 posted on 03/09/2014 7:50:34 AM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: Robe
BTW.. It's called ACARS and it look like this ....
19 posted on 03/09/2014 7:54:50 AM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Yes, there would be; Malaysia is 61% muslim.


20 posted on 03/09/2014 8:17:07 AM PDT by punchamullah
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To: Principled

excellent point that no one has mentioned anywhere.


21 posted on 03/09/2014 9:43:24 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: ilovesarah2012

What I see is two tech crew had ‘middle eastern/muslim’ names. Also it is not documented but the co pilot had the same and had only been flying 7 years. That is enough time after 9-11 to train a few radical muslim pilots and getting them in the driver’s seat. My thoughts are inside/outside job combo. Probably not the co pilot but tech crew and passengers that had stolen passports.


22 posted on 03/09/2014 9:48:26 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Principled

They just scanned it, which is why they have a record. But they didn’t check it until the plane went missing,


23 posted on 03/09/2014 2:13:38 PM PDT by livius
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To: livius

i thought scanning checked it ... my mistake.. what function does scanning serve?


24 posted on 03/09/2014 3:53:06 PM PDT by Principled
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To: Principled

It only checks numbers if the country or airport is tied into the Interpol database. Malaysia did not check the database, according to Interpol, so I guess they don’t routinely do this.

They probably will in the future....


25 posted on 03/09/2014 4:12:54 PM PDT by livius
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