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IRS to give up, release all Lerner e-mails, documents
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Posted on 03/09/2014 8:16:51 AM PDT by chessplayer

On Wednesday, we found out the Big Reveal on whether or not Lois Lerner would be emptying the bag for Darrell Issa. Nope. So many perfectly good conspiracy theories flushed down the tubes after I went through two pots of coffee dreaming them up. It looked like a big, fat nothingburger and another dead end. But now, seemingly out of nowhere, the IRS seems to have had a change of heart.

The powerful House Ways and Means Committee will get everything from disgraced former IRS official Lois Lerner’s email account since a few weeks before Barack Obama became president.

And Republican committee members are hoping they’ll find a smoking gun tying the Obama administration to the years-long scheme to play political favorites with nonprofit groups’ tax-exemption applications.

After eight months of back-and-forth stonewalling, the IRS has agreed to turn over the complete contents of Lerner’s email account, along with other documents that two congressional committees have been demanding.

Well… that’s just great, I suppose. But there’s a skeptical corner of my dark little heart which immediately begins raising some red flags. I suppose it’s something along the lines of what one unnamed staffer told the Daily Mail.

‘If there’s not a Holy Grail email in this round of documents,’ a senior staffer to a Ways and Means committee member told MailOnline, ‘then we’re not going to find it.’

‘Whether that’s because Lerner covered her tracks or because the IRS is shredding documents, we’re probably never going to know.’

They’ve had eight months to sit on all of this data and come up with a battle plan, circle the wagons and get ready for this. In the bad old days, one assumes they would just have a vodka soaked party around the burn barrel and any damning documents could literally go up in smoke. But is it really that much harder in the digital era? I ask this because I honestly don’t know.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: irsscandal; obamalied; obamascandals; redacted; smidgen; transparency
The committee will get nothing but blacked out pages.
1 posted on 03/09/2014 8:16:51 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

It would appear so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


2 posted on 03/09/2014 8:19:08 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: chessplayer

They would never have released them until everything incriminating had been scrubbed.


3 posted on 03/09/2014 8:19:33 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

“Redacted”with a CAPITAL”R”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


4 posted on 03/09/2014 8:19:39 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: chessplayer

Oh yeah well you just wait. Darrell Issa and the rest of those Republicans are gonna get to the bottom of this deal you just wait and see.


5 posted on 03/09/2014 8:20:03 AM PDT by OKSooner ("As the riders went on by him, he heard one call his name...")
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To: chessplayer; Revolting cat!
The powerful House Ways and Means Committee will get everything from disgraced former IRS official Lois Lerner’s email account since a few weeks before Barack Obama became president.

Obama was in the newly created "Office Of The President Elect" at that time.


6 posted on 03/09/2014 8:20:10 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: chessplayer

Agreed.


7 posted on 03/09/2014 8:20:12 AM PDT by RandallFlagg ("I said I never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it." --Quigley)
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To: bandleader

The committee will find nothing and the IRS and libs can crow that they cooperated. This investigation is finished.


8 posted on 03/09/2014 8:21:46 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

LOL! You beat me by about 4 minutes. Similar story, different source. Boils down to, she slides home free.


9 posted on 03/09/2014 8:22:05 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Redneck. Race: Daytona 500)
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To: chessplayer
The committee will get nothing but blacked out pages.

Check recent IRS purchases of large, black marking pens. They've probably bought a freightcar load.

10 posted on 03/09/2014 8:22:06 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: chessplayer

There is a huge difference between emails, which are bits in etherspace, versus audio tapes with gaps. In other words, “shredding” is a cinch with bits and bytes.


11 posted on 03/09/2014 8:22:21 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: chessplayer

12 posted on 03/09/2014 8:25:32 AM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: a fool in paradise

I am so embarrassed that so many Americans were SO STUPID to have bought into the ethereal ‘hope and change’ mantra. He never said he would change it for the better, did he? And he denied he even said he would ‘fundamentally change’ America in the Super Bowl interview. There is VIDEO of him saying that, but no accountability for that BIG LIE, eh? No Big Media pointing out that whopper. The Libs have had control of Education (and Big Media) for decades and now those chickens have come home to roost with the power Obama usurps. Pray for our country.


13 posted on 03/09/2014 8:25:41 AM PDT by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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To: chessplayer

‘All emails’ AFTER the incriminating ones have been purged


14 posted on 03/09/2014 8:25:57 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: chessplayer

Remember, this comes after Lerner had her meeting with the DOJ (right after she refused to testify to Issa’s committee), so I’m sure they’ve got it all worked out.


15 posted on 03/09/2014 8:26:32 AM PDT by livius
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To: chessplayer
Exactly. This is such a cynical fanfare I can't believe anyone would even consider accepting it at face value.
16 posted on 03/09/2014 8:27:03 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: chessplayer

“They would never have released them until everything incriminating had been scrubbed.”

It’s not uncommon for government officials to use a pseudonym and a private email account for nefarious deeds. Also, the danger of scrubbing them is that the addressee may not have deleted or changed their email. An obvious difference would look VERY bad. But, catching something like that means going deep and they’d have to know where to go with the second subpoena.


17 posted on 03/09/2014 8:28:01 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: chessplayer

Dems never volunteer anything that is culpably damning. Someone would have had to search and seize the correspondences before they deleted them.


18 posted on 03/09/2014 8:28:14 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: chessplayer
Yeah. Right. Sure.
19 posted on 03/09/2014 8:28:19 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Barack Hussein Obama entertains a thought that he does not verbalize, is it still a lie?)
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To: chessplayer

Let’s hope that someone,somewhere has the unscrubbed copies of the digital evidence. President Smidgen would never have released items that could be damaging to his palace of lies. In the digital age there is always the possibility of a secret download, a hack, an errant thumb drive smuggled out. Pray that one surfaces.


20 posted on 03/09/2014 8:28:33 AM PDT by CharlesThe Hammer
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To: rktman

YEAH BUT.....youre forgetting one thing.... Issa has emails from other people sent back and forth. He will bring her before the committee and say, Did you ever send an email to so and so discussing such and suck. Learner, NO I didnt.” This committee has been provided a copy of an email you wrote dated.... and that is how perjury happens.
Here is the deal, Issa is not going to have gone this far to be made to look like an idiot. He will pull the trigger on her.


21 posted on 03/09/2014 8:30:07 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: chessplayer

So what’s Lerner’s secret/anonymous work email address?


22 posted on 03/09/2014 8:31:36 AM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: Walkingfeather

Lerner: “What’s email?”


23 posted on 03/09/2014 8:32:25 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Redneck. Race: Daytona 500)
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To: originalbuckeye
I am so embarrassed that so many Americans were SO STUPID to have bought into the ethereal ‘hope and change’ mantra.

A new world order candidate was elected because both candidates were new world order.

Since the government, capital markets, education, media, etc., are all run by new world order, and nwo has brainwashed most sheeple into fanatically insisting that nwo does not exist, nwo can pretty have its run of the place.
24 posted on 03/09/2014 8:34:16 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: chessplayer

If Lerner pleads the fifth and there is nothing in the emails then either Lerner perjured herself or there really is something incriminating somewhere else.


25 posted on 03/09/2014 8:36:13 AM PDT by Principled
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To: originalbuckeye

Heard John McCain today (from an interview on Michael Medved last week) calling out Putin for the Stalinist tactic of lying to your face with no concern of being called out on it (regarding the troops in the Ukraine).

It’d be nice to see a former presidential contender call out his victorious opponent for using the exact same damn tactic.


26 posted on 03/09/2014 8:36:56 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: chessplayer

Jarrett is the “air gap.” All orders from the head of the Party are issued orally to her, and then she issues the orders orally to the flunkies, leaving no trail.


27 posted on 03/09/2014 8:40:41 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Walkingfeather

Here is the deal, Issa is not going to have gone this far to be made to look like an idiot. He will pull the trigger on her.


Issa has nver pulled the trigger on anybody. Issa has let this drag on for nearly a year without directly engaging the obama admin.

Nothing will happen on this because the GOP leadership was never interested in vigorously engaging the obama admin over the IRS assaults. As it gets closer to the election they will get even more timid. The Dems know that and that is why they are getting more aggressive. Boehner will fold like always because, dontcha know, we have to win elections!


28 posted on 03/09/2014 8:41:26 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: chessplayer
eight months of back-and-forth stonewalling

Oh, please. It's more like eight months of frantic scrubbing.
29 posted on 03/09/2014 8:43:17 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: logi_cal869
So what’s Lerner’s secret/anonymous work email address?

Did the IRS's Lois Lerner use a secret personal email account to order targeting of tea party groups?

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'Through the course of the investigation, we have learned that you sent documents related to your official duties from your official IRS e-mail account to an msn.com e-mail account labeled "Lois Home,"' the letter reads.

30 posted on 03/09/2014 8:43:33 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I just messed up my tagline. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: chessplayer

Anyone in the market for a bridge ?


31 posted on 03/09/2014 8:46:57 AM PDT by tomkat (3%+1)
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To: chessplayer

Date: January 20, 2008
To: Lois Lerner
From: Lois Lerner

Subject: Electronic diary - Entry 1

Dear Diary,

I will be emailing myself to create an historical diary of President Obama’s (Peace be upon Him) administration.

As a former Republican Goldwater Girl, I’m frankly shocked that Congressman Darrell Issa reached out to me today and demanded that I heavily scrutinize non-profit applications of groups that have a conservative agenda.

Despite my misgivings, and the desire for hope and change, I will do my best to comply with Congressman Issa’s demands in the interest of bipartisanship, even if it means hiding my actions from my superiors at the IRS.

Love,

-Lois

P.S. Seeing President Obama sworn in today just gave me that Chris Matthews’ tingling feeling. If only Reggie Love weren’t in the picture, maybe I’d have a transgendered chance.


32 posted on 03/09/2014 8:51:53 AM PDT by peyton randolph (Show me the man and I will find the crime. - Lavrenti Beria)
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To: chessplayer

Blacked out or only the innocuous emails...


33 posted on 03/09/2014 8:52:14 AM PDT by null and void ( Obama is Law-Less because Republican "leaders" are BALL-LESS!!)
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To: andyk

Oh, please. It’s more like eight months of frantic scrubbing.


Eight months of cocktail parties for Boehner. Leadership wasn’t interested resulting in no engaged game plan. Nothing really matters after that. Nothing will happen.


35 posted on 03/09/2014 8:54:47 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: chessplayer

I wonder if they will be printed and hand delivered by the same staffer that printed & hand delivered his birth certificate?


36 posted on 03/09/2014 8:55:58 AM PDT by FreeInWV (Have you had enough change yet?)
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To: chessplayer

The IRS needs to be redacted.


37 posted on 03/09/2014 8:56:47 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: chessplayer

Those TEA Parties that have been attacked by the Obama thugs should submit all their forms in the same redacted format as these IRS papers have been. What’s fair for the goose should be even more fair for the gander since these crooks are supposed to work for US.


38 posted on 03/09/2014 9:19:24 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: chessplayer

Pages like the birth certificate? They’ve had time to fix what they want to appear real.


39 posted on 03/09/2014 9:24:05 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda¬óDivide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: chessplayer

Anything incriminating has been digitally shredded using a DOD compliant data erasure protocol. Bet on it...


40 posted on 03/09/2014 9:24:46 AM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: chessplayer

Or else there is another “secret” non-gooberment email account.


41 posted on 03/09/2014 9:45:22 AM PDT by metesky (My investment program is holding steady @ $0.05 cents a can.)
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To: UCANSEE2
...an msn.com e-mail account labeled "Lois Home"...

Do tell...I was being facetious. Missed that prior.

From here,
"IRS caves on Lois Lerner documents, will provide Congress with ALL of her emails since tea party targeting scheme began"
(first sentence of the article, emphasis mine):

The powerful House Ways and Means Committee will get everything from disgraced former IRS official Lois Lerner's email account since a few weeks before Barack Obama became president.
So Issa's out to prove he can't play the game even in an election year. "Account" is singular. That denotes only the official email account, best I can interpret.

Great. /s

42 posted on 03/09/2014 1:40:54 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: chessplayer
Was talking to a newly minted Conservative at the bar out our local gun club last night. Union machinist that hates obummer. Thought clintoon was good until I enlightened him on Waco, Chinagate, Hughes Electronics, Loral Space, the Cox Report.

Remember Emailgate and Mrs Crabtree and Northrup Grumman?

43 posted on 03/09/2014 3:08:29 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: chessplayer

http://hv.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=002kS9


44 posted on 03/09/2014 3:20:08 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: chessplayer

The only real way to know is to look at the hard drives that Lerner used. That is not going to happen.


45 posted on 03/09/2014 3:24:33 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: Principled
The truth will only be revealed when a leftist dem finds Jesus and embraces the truth.............

:-) I couldn't even say it with a straight face online.

That'll happen when purple unicorns poop skittles and fart rainbows.

46 posted on 03/09/2014 3:36:18 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: chessplayer

My take:

Giving a written order or directive to scrutinize conservative groups or groups with conservative-sounding names was most likely avoided. Rather, the directive was likely a verbal one, in a room with doors closed and recording devices absent.

Therefore, emails would most likely not contain any kind of “smoking gun” evidence of wrongding.


47 posted on 03/09/2014 4:16:58 PM PDT by Let_It_Be_So (Once you see the Truth, you cannot "unsee" it, no matter how hard you may try.)
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To: chessplayer
After eight months of back-and-forth stonewalling, the IRS has agreed to turn over the complete contents of Lerner’s email account, along with other documents that two congressional committees have been demanding

Somehow I think the word "complete" has an entirely different meaning here....

As in only what we want you to see...

48 posted on 03/09/2014 5:19:50 PM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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