Skip to comments.Vietnam says it may have found missing jet's door
Posted on 03/09/2014 9:43:07 AM PDT by Kevin in California
Vietnamese authorities searching waters for the missing Boeing 777 jetliner spotted an object Sunday that they suspected was one of the plane's doors, as international intelligence agencies joined the investigation into two passengers who boarded the aircraft with stolen passports.
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Nam saying this????
ALternatively, someone dumped their refrigerator in a way that would pi** off Al Gore.
“On Saturday, the foreign ministries in Italy and Austria said the names of two citizens listed on the flight’s manifest matched the names on two passports reported stolen in Thailand.
“I can confirm that we have the visuals of these two people on CCTV,” Malaysian Transport Minister Hishammuddin Hussein said”
Might just be a shoe bomber, or a successful trial run of a new component explosive, something that has to be mixed, by itself each component may be undetectable, but get two or three or more passengers all adding their parts, you get your explosive.
Fake boobs, prosthetic limbs, suppository, etc.
I guess I missed it but that’s the first time I recall reading that the passports went missing in Thailand.
Lot’s of, uh, “unusual” things go on in Thailand.
This is new info, for me. Those are the two people whose passports had long been reported stolen, and were listed among the passengers.
If the plan was to blow up the plane out of Malaysia, it doesn't seem like they would have booked further travel. Not impossible, I guess.
Nah.... just a spontaneous explosion of the center fuel tank.
Not really. The only way they could go via China without obtaining visas would be transit. Should there be a finding that terrorism is involved, then transit passengers may have to obtain visas in the near future!
Booking further travel would be a way to avoid needing to obtain a Visa to enter China. A visa application for stolen passports would have raised eyebrows with the chinese authorities. China has a program where travelers passing through from certain countries are not required to have visas. People with European passports are afforded this convenience.
That is what bugs me too. If you are going to blow up the plane, why spend the money for other destinations?
In this day and age of the world wide interweb, how in the h-e-double toothpicks does not one but two persons board an aircraft with stolen passports? Don’t they have computers in Malaysia?
Perhaps you answered your own question. Maybe they booked it through because they figured it made them look more normal.
or as the post right above mine stated was because they didn’t need a visa
Just after this story first broke yesterday, and they said they’d found 2 oil slick but no debris field, I thought maybe terrorists had pilots dump fuel, fly low to avoid radar and put down at a field in VN or Thailand. Now, with possible door to plane found, that doesn’t seem likely. Not looking hopeful for all those passengers and crew.
Paging James Kahlstrom, please pick up the white courtesy mxxxxx fxxxing liar’s phone.
“Not looking hopeful for all those passengers and crew.”
It never was once it was reported missing. This ain’t the movies.
Found door? I wouldn’t think these things float, but I suppose their could be a sealed portion?
Or would it be less suspicious to book travel that appeared you were going home from your trip? Sounds good to me. After all, the El Al experts do look for such things and ask probing questions like where are you going, what were you doing in Malaysia, etc. Going home looks very normal.
“Found door? I wouldnt think these things float, but I suppose their could be a sealed portion?”
Aircraft doors often contain the evac slides and the bottles to inflate them.
The two passengers could have been given the stolen passports and free tickets to Europe for a variety of reasons, then unwittingly had explosives hidden on their person or in their baggage.
The passports could have nothing to do with this. Most of Malaysia is Muslim-anyone checking the PILOTS? No distress signal, no indication of trouble. If they were Muslim terrorists they could have simply put the plane into the ocean.
Yup. Plastic, paper etc in plane's interiors is lighter than water and will float if not secured to something heavy. Just a matter of time until all sorts of light weight material is on the surface.
Too risky these days when people are fighting back. Got to be certain of success.
The only thing that is missing is some bunch of wogs taking credit for this. Hasn't happened yet.
It was reported that Mohammed Atta was shopping for clothes at Walmart the night before his morning flight out of Portland, Maine.
Reason #1 why I haven’t flown commercial, since TWA 800 on 7/96.
Because one way tickets raise unwanted attention.
I’m curious what the Chinese know about these people with stolen passports. If you’ve ever been to China have to go through a big visa process before you travel just to get a visa to let you enter the country. You have to go to a Chinese consulate, fill out a long form and even include an additional passport type photographs of yourself that they keep on file... It takes at least a day to process and you have to surrender your passport to them while it is done . This is just to get a visa to enter the country....all done ahead of time so they must have a complete record....Having gone through the Chinese visa process myself I’m wonder why they couldn’t determine these passports were stolen..They were never reported stolen? If the were stolen when the true owner was out of the country a new one would of been need to get back home for the true owner so be flaged as missing.....ive done a lot of travel in that part of the world last year..and these countries check
However, Beijing has a policy whereby some passengers in transit to third countries can stay in the Chinese capital for 72 hours without a visa, so the two men may have not needed to apply for a Chinese visa if they had tickets to another destination.
Locked cockpit would prevent passenger reaction and if both pilot and co-pilot like the idea of killing a plane full of people for ‘Allah’-what’s to stop them? Then again, Third World maintenance could play a part, not to mention good old incompetence. Either way, I doubt a Muslim country would ever give us the truth and-I’m not ashamed to say- a few hundred dead Muslims is a good start.( Pity reserved for any non-Muslims aboard)
What do refrigerators and Al Gore have in common?
If you put an airplane in a parabolic dive everyone will float around in zero g unless you are buckled into your seat. Do you know what the Vomit Comet is?
I see. So it's not as unusual as dummies like me would think.
The pilot was an old hand with over 18,000 hours. Dunno about the Co-pilot.
The thing is, there's no terrorism value, unless everybody knows who it was.
9/11 was valuable because the brought down 4 planes and 2+ buildings, 3000 infidels killed. Here there's one plane, majority Muslims, I suppose, and nobody knows.
does not make you a dummy unless you traveled internationally there would be know reason for you to know this
“A government is just a reflection of the people that create it. Los Angeles has a majority Third world population. A Third world people cant create or maintain First World institutions like an honest, efficient government.”
Used to work for a company that makes Nomex Honeycomb material. All the interior A/C panels are made of Tedlar/Nomex Honeycomb because it’s extremely light and since it’s a closed cell structure it floats.
On the other hand, if you're going to blow up the plane, why NOT?
Especially if it's SOMEBODY ELSE'S MONEY.
Twenty of the passengers aboard the flight work with Freescale Semiconductor, a company based in Austin, Texas. The company said that 12 of the employees are from Malaysia and eight are from China.
Were there any infidels of note on the plane? Muslims would have no problem killing hundreds of their own( they do it every day) to get a target. Either way- as I said- I pity any non Muslims killed. IMO, the fewer Muslims on the planet the better.
On Fox and Friends this morning, Jim Kallstrom said this is nothing like the TWA flight that went down due to a center fuel tank explosion. How many people really buy that story?
Twenty employees of Freescale Semiconductor.
Not your typical splodey-plane scenario. Waiting 7 years is a bit much.
Two theories -
1. Additional travel would lower the suspicion of authorities. It's the one way tickets that get really scrutinized.
2. They were unwitting mules for devices they had no idea they were carrying or were convinced was something other than it was. The additional travel was booked to lower their suspicion.
What Kallstrom probably meant is that in this case there aren't a ton of witness stories that need to be buried. In that case, he's right - nothing like TWA 800.
No doubt the additional legs were made so as to not cast suspicion on just making a reservation for a one way ticket.
Could have been the first time they flew together and were of the same mindset. Could be that one overpowered the other.
Will know when they find the black box.
There was mentioned that both military and civilian radar indicated the plane may have attempted to turn around. They’re supposed to call in before they do that and there was no contact.