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Vietnam says it may have found missing jet's door
AP ^ | 03-09-2014 | Eileen Ng/Chris Brummitt

Posted on 03/09/2014 9:43:07 AM PDT by Kevin in California

Vietnamese authorities searching waters for the missing Boeing 777 jetliner spotted an object Sunday that they suspected was one of the plane's doors, as international intelligence agencies joined the investigation into two passengers who boarded the aircraft with stolen passports.

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KEYWORDS: boeing777; iran; malaysia; mh370; waronterror
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1 posted on 03/09/2014 9:43:07 AM PDT by Kevin in California
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To: Kevin in California

Nam saying this????


2 posted on 03/09/2014 9:45:40 AM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: Kevin in California

ALternatively, someone dumped their refrigerator in a way that would pi** off Al Gore.


3 posted on 03/09/2014 9:49:12 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Kevin in California

“On Saturday, the foreign ministries in Italy and Austria said the names of two citizens listed on the flight’s manifest matched the names on two passports reported stolen in Thailand.

“I can confirm that we have the visuals of these two people on CCTV,” Malaysian Transport Minister Hishammuddin Hussein said”

Good.


4 posted on 03/09/2014 9:50:08 AM PDT by FAA
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To: Kevin in California

Might just be a shoe bomber, or a successful trial run of a new component explosive, something that has to be mixed, by itself each component may be undetectable, but get two or three or more passengers all adding their parts, you get your explosive.

Fake boobs, prosthetic limbs, suppository, etc.


5 posted on 03/09/2014 9:50:23 AM PDT by Spartan302
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To: FAA

I guess I missed it but that’s the first time I recall reading that the passports went missing in Thailand.

Lot’s of, uh, “unusual” things go on in Thailand.


6 posted on 03/09/2014 9:53:20 AM PDT by FAA
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To: Kevin in California
A telephone operator on a China-based KLM hotline on Sunday confirmed that "Maraldi" and "Kozel" were both booked to leave Beijing on a KLM flight to Amsterdam on March 8. Maraldi was then to fly to Copenhagen, Denmark, on KLM on March 8, and Kozel to Frankfurt, Germany, on March 8.

This is new info, for me. Those are the two people whose passports had long been reported stolen, and were listed among the passengers.

If the plan was to blow up the plane out of Malaysia, it doesn't seem like they would have booked further travel. Not impossible, I guess.

7 posted on 03/09/2014 10:02:01 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Spartan302

Nah.... just a spontaneous explosion of the center fuel tank.


8 posted on 03/09/2014 10:04:37 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Izzy Dunne
"If the plan was to blow up the plane out of Malaysia, it doesn't seem like they would have booked further travel. Not impossible, I guess."

Not really. The only way they could go via China without obtaining visas would be transit. Should there be a finding that terrorism is involved, then transit passengers may have to obtain visas in the near future!

9 posted on 03/09/2014 10:06:28 AM PDT by Jakarta ex-pat
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To: Izzy Dunne

Booking further travel would be a way to avoid needing to obtain a Visa to enter China. A visa application for stolen passports would have raised eyebrows with the chinese authorities. China has a program where travelers passing through from certain countries are not required to have visas. People with European passports are afforded this convenience.


10 posted on 03/09/2014 10:07:41 AM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: Izzy Dunne

That is what bugs me too. If you are going to blow up the plane, why spend the money for other destinations?


11 posted on 03/09/2014 10:09:17 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.)
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To: Kevin in California

In this day and age of the world wide interweb, how in the h-e-double toothpicks does not one but two persons board an aircraft with stolen passports? Don’t they have computers in Malaysia?


12 posted on 03/09/2014 10:10:50 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: reaganaut

Perhaps you answered your own question. Maybe they booked it through because they figured it made them look more normal.


13 posted on 03/09/2014 10:12:45 AM PDT by dforest
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To: dforest

or as the post right above mine stated was because they didn’t need a visa


14 posted on 03/09/2014 10:14:31 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.)
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To: Kevin in California

Just after this story first broke yesterday, and they said they’d found 2 oil slick but no debris field, I thought maybe terrorists had pilots dump fuel, fly low to avoid radar and put down at a field in VN or Thailand. Now, with possible door to plane found, that doesn’t seem likely. Not looking hopeful for all those passengers and crew.


15 posted on 03/09/2014 10:16:16 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: BenLurkin

Paging James Kahlstrom, please pick up the white courtesy mxxxxx fxxxing liar’s phone.


16 posted on 03/09/2014 10:16:48 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: carriage_hill

“Not looking hopeful for all those passengers and crew.”
It never was once it was reported missing. This ain’t the movies.


17 posted on 03/09/2014 10:18:18 AM PDT by Jakarta ex-pat
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To: Kevin in California

Found door? I wouldn’t think these things float, but I suppose their could be a sealed portion?


18 posted on 03/09/2014 10:18:28 AM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Or would it be less suspicious to book travel that appeared you were going home from your trip? Sounds good to me. After all, the El Al experts do look for such things and ask probing questions like where are you going, what were you doing in Malaysia, etc. Going home looks very normal.


19 posted on 03/09/2014 10:27:41 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: umgud

“Found door? I wouldn’t think these things float, but I suppose their could be a sealed portion?”

Aircraft doors often contain the evac slides and the bottles to inflate them.


20 posted on 03/09/2014 10:28:53 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Kevin in California

The two passengers could have been given the stolen passports and free tickets to Europe for a variety of reasons, then unwittingly had explosives hidden on their person or in their baggage.


21 posted on 03/09/2014 10:29:07 AM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: Kevin in California

The passports could have nothing to do with this. Most of Malaysia is Muslim-anyone checking the PILOTS? No distress signal, no indication of trouble. If they were Muslim terrorists they could have simply put the plane into the ocean.


22 posted on 03/09/2014 10:37:18 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (When anyone says its not about Islam...it's about Islam. That death cult must be eradicated.)
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To: vette6387
Aircraft doors often contain the evac slides and the bottles to inflate them.

Yup. Plastic, paper etc in plane's interiors is lighter than water and will float if not secured to something heavy. Just a matter of time until all sorts of light weight material is on the surface.

23 posted on 03/09/2014 10:42:49 AM PDT by llevrok (F the government)
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To: ClearBlueSky
If they were Muslim terrorists they could have simply put the plane into the ocean.

Too risky these days when people are fighting back. Got to be certain of success.

The only thing that is missing is some bunch of wogs taking credit for this. Hasn't happened yet.

24 posted on 03/09/2014 10:45:04 AM PDT by llevrok (F the government)
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To: reaganaut
If you are going to blow up the plane, why spend the money for other destinations?

It was reported that Mohammed Atta was shopping for clothes at Walmart the night before his morning flight out of Portland, Maine.

25 posted on 03/09/2014 10:47:10 AM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: Jakarta ex-pat

Reason #1 why I haven’t flown commercial, since TWA 800 on 7/96.


26 posted on 03/09/2014 10:48:04 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: reaganaut

Because one way tickets raise unwanted attention.


27 posted on 03/09/2014 10:50:01 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Kevin in California

I’m curious what the Chinese know about these people with stolen passports. If you’ve ever been to China have to go through a big visa process before you travel just to get a visa to let you enter the country. You have to go to a Chinese consulate, fill out a long form and even include an additional passport type photographs of yourself that they keep on file... It takes at least a day to process and you have to surrender your passport to them while it is done . This is just to get a visa to enter the country....all done ahead of time so they must have a complete record....Having gone through the Chinese visa process myself I’m wonder why they couldn’t determine these passports were stolen..They were never reported stolen? If the were stolen when the true owner was out of the country a new one would of been need to get back home for the true owner so be flaged as missing.....ive done a lot of travel in that part of the world last year..and these countries check


28 posted on 03/09/2014 10:50:18 AM PDT by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
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To: tophat9000

However, Beijing has a policy whereby some passengers in transit to third countries can stay in the Chinese capital for 72 hours without a visa, so the two men may have not needed to apply for a Chinese visa if they had tickets to another destination.

http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-wn-malaysia-airlines-search-missing-plane-20140309,0,4135649.story#ixzz2vUOWDrP9


29 posted on 03/09/2014 10:52:54 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: llevrok

Locked cockpit would prevent passenger reaction and if both pilot and co-pilot like the idea of killing a plane full of people for ‘Allah’-what’s to stop them? Then again, Third World maintenance could play a part, not to mention good old incompetence. Either way, I doubt a Muslim country would ever give us the truth and-I’m not ashamed to say- a few hundred dead Muslims is a good start.( Pity reserved for any non-Muslims aboard)


30 posted on 03/09/2014 10:54:40 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (When anyone says its not about Islam...it's about Islam. That death cult must be eradicated.)
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To: Viennacon

What do refrigerators and Al Gore have in common?


31 posted on 03/09/2014 10:56:54 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: llevrok

If you put an airplane in a parabolic dive everyone will float around in zero g unless you are buckled into your seat. Do you know what the Vomit Comet is?


32 posted on 03/09/2014 10:56:54 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: longfellowsmuse
China has a program where travelers passing through from certain countries are not required to have visas. People with European passports are afforded this convenience.

I see. So it's not as unusual as dummies like me would think.

33 posted on 03/09/2014 11:03:44 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

IQ.


34 posted on 03/09/2014 11:05:06 AM PDT by RPTMS (I know you're a nincompoop, and I strongly suspect you of being a scalawag!)
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To: ClearBlueSky
Most of Malaysia is Muslim-anyone checking the PILOTS?

The pilot was an old hand with over 18,000 hours. Dunno about the Co-pilot.

The thing is, there's no terrorism value, unless everybody knows who it was.

9/11 was valuable because the brought down 4 planes and 2+ buildings, 3000 infidels killed. Here there's one plane, majority Muslims, I suppose, and nobody knows.

35 posted on 03/09/2014 11:10:46 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

does not make you a dummy… unless you traveled internationally there would be know reason for you to know this


36 posted on 03/09/2014 11:11:18 AM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: llevrok

“A government is just a reflection of the people that create it. Los Angeles has a majority Third world population. A Third world people can’t create or maintain First World institutions like an honest, efficient government.”

Used to work for a company that makes Nomex Honeycomb material. All the interior A/C panels are made of Tedlar/Nomex Honeycomb because it’s extremely light and since it’s a closed cell structure it floats.


37 posted on 03/09/2014 11:17:04 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: reaganaut
If you are going to blow up the plane, why spend the money for other destinations?

On the other hand, if you're going to blow up the plane, why NOT?

Especially if it's SOMEBODY ELSE'S MONEY.

38 posted on 03/09/2014 11:17:23 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Kevin in California
Interesting:
Haven't seen confirmation from a reputable source, but CNN has this:

Twenty of the passengers aboard the flight work with Freescale Semiconductor, a company based in Austin, Texas. The company said that 12 of the employees are from Malaysia and eight are from China.

Silicon wars?

39 posted on 03/09/2014 11:21:39 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Were there any infidels of note on the plane? Muslims would have no problem killing hundreds of their own( they do it every day) to get a target. Either way- as I said- I pity any non Muslims killed. IMO, the fewer Muslims on the planet the better.


40 posted on 03/09/2014 11:37:58 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (When anyone says its not about Islam...it's about Islam. That death cult must be eradicated.)
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To: BenLurkin

On Fox and Friends this morning, Jim Kallstrom said this is nothing like the TWA flight that went down due to a center fuel tank explosion. How many people really buy that story?


41 posted on 03/09/2014 11:42:31 AM PDT by surrey
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To: ClearBlueSky
Were there any infidels of note on the plane?

Twenty employees of Freescale Semiconductor.

42 posted on 03/09/2014 11:46:02 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: ClearBlueSky
More info on the pilots: Capt. Zaharie Ahmad Shah, a 53-year-old Malaysian, has 18,365 total flying hours and joined Malaysia Airlines in 1981, the website said. The first officer is Fariq Ab Hamid, 27, a Malaysian with a total of 2,763 flying hours. He joined Malaysia Airlines in 2007.

Not your typical splodey-plane scenario. Waiting 7 years is a bit much.

43 posted on 03/09/2014 11:48:34 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Izzy Dunne
"If the plan was to blow up the plane out of Malaysia, it doesn't seem like they would have booked further travel.'

Two theories -

1. Additional travel would lower the suspicion of authorities. It's the one way tickets that get really scrutinized.

2. They were unwitting mules for devices they had no idea they were carrying or were convinced was something other than it was. The additional travel was booked to lower their suspicion.

44 posted on 03/09/2014 11:53:33 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: surrey
"On Fox and Friends this morning, Jim Kallstrom said this is nothing like the TWA flight that went down due to a center fuel tank explosion."

What Kallstrom probably meant is that in this case there aren't a ton of witness stories that need to be buried. In that case, he's right - nothing like TWA 800.

45 posted on 03/09/2014 11:55:54 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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Pilot Zahari had pretty fancy 777 flight simulator in his home. Other pilots said he was well qualified.  photo zaharie-ahmad-shah-photos-7_zpsc7418dd5.jpg
46 posted on 03/09/2014 11:58:33 AM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: Izzy Dunne

No doubt the additional legs were made so as to not cast suspicion on just making a reservation for a one way ticket.


47 posted on 03/09/2014 1:08:21 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Izzy Dunne

Could have been the first time they flew together and were of the same mindset. Could be that one overpowered the other.

Will know when they find the black box.


48 posted on 03/09/2014 1:13:01 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: ClearBlueSky

There was mentioned that both military and civilian radar indicated the plane may have attempted to turn around. They’re supposed to call in before they do that and there was no contact.


49 posted on 03/09/2014 1:51:31 PM PDT by virgil
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To: carriage_hill

http://youtu.be/Jtf4Zma8kMU


50 posted on 03/09/2014 2:18:46 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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