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Sen. Ted Cruz Breaks with Sen. Rand Paul on Foreign Policy
WABCRadio ^ | 12:05PM SundayMarch 9, 2014

Posted on 03/09/2014 11:56:32 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

(NEW YORK) -- It may be the opening salvo of the 2016 Republican primary. During an exclusive interview with ABC News’ Jonathan Karl for This Week, Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, called Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., a friend, but drew a distinction between himself and the Kentucky senator on foreign policy, saying the U.S. “has a responsibility to defend our values.”

“I’m a big fan of Rand Paul. He and I are good friends. But I don’t agree with him on foreign policy,” Cruz said. “I think U.S. leadership is critical in the world. And I agree with him that we should be very reluctant to deploy military force abroad. But I think there is a vital role, just as Ronald Reagan did… The United States has a responsibility to defend our values.”

Cruz also took President Obama to task over Russia’s invasion of Crimea, citing the president’s “weakness” in dealing with matters of foreign policy as a reason for Russia’s seizure of the Ukrainian peninsula.

“A critical reason for Putin’s aggression has been President Obama’s weakness,” Cruz told Karl on This Week. “That Putin fears no retribution… [Obama's] policy has been to alienate and abandon our friends and to coddle and appease our enemies.”

“You’d better believe Putin sees in Benghazi four Americans are murdered, the first ambassador killed in service since 1979, and nothing happens,” Cruz added, echoing comments by other Republicans like Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C. “You’d better believe that Putin sees that in Syria, Obama draws a red line and ignores the red line. You’d better believe that Putin sees all over the world.”


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky; US: Texas
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1 posted on 03/09/2014 11:56:32 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie; MarMema; skinkinthegrass; Bikkuri; o2bfree; 12th_Monkey; 230FMJ; TWhiteBear; ...

Ted Cruz Ping!

If you want on/off this ping list, please let me know.

Please beware, this is a high-volume ping list!


2 posted on 03/09/2014 11:57:18 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie
America's interests alone should be the primary motive in our foreign policy.

If a solid argument, not an abstract one, in favor of them cannot be found, we should not be involved.

3 posted on 03/09/2014 11:59:06 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: SoConPubbie
... the U.S. “has a responsibility to defend our values.”

And what values might they be, Mr. Cruz? Foreign policy initiatives that include the homosexualization of other nations, or combatting "climate change"?

Let's focus on first restoring this country to the point where we actually have something to say to the rest of the world, OK?

4 posted on 03/09/2014 12:01:34 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: SoConPubbie
ABC News Radio

How did this get out on ABC News Radio?

5 posted on 03/09/2014 12:01:46 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: SoConPubbie

Mr Cruz understands the history lesson of the 1930’s, Mr. Paul does not.


6 posted on 03/09/2014 12:05:34 PM PDT by exnavy (Fish or cut bait ...Got ammo, Godspeed!)
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To: SoConPubbie

Thanks for the pings!


7 posted on 03/09/2014 12:06:03 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: exnavy
Mr Cruz understands the history lesson of the 1930’s, Mr. Paul does not.

You are correct sir!

Rand Paul comes across more like Neville Chamberlin than anything else.
8 posted on 03/09/2014 12:06:33 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Finny

My pleasure Finny!


9 posted on 03/09/2014 12:07:06 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Alberta's Child

“Let’s focus on first restoring this country to the point where we actually have something to say to the rest of the world, OK? “

I have to believe that Ted Cruz’ values would comport with those that were existent when Ronald Reagan was president. It would be inappropriate, in my view, to ascribe what passes for “our country’s values” with the current administration to either Ted Cruz or most of our citizens. The problem we have is that Obama has created an “economy” where a lot of people are forced to care more about their stomachs than our foreign policy and that’s by design. If, and when, we rid ourselves of this pariah in the White Hut, it may take a generation or more to rectify the damage that’s been done. We can only hope that the citizens are willing to stay the course for that correction. Personally, I have my doubts.


10 posted on 03/09/2014 12:08:40 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: SoConPubbie

Yes, that’s not conservative values.


11 posted on 03/09/2014 12:10:42 PM PDT by exnavy (Fish or cut bait ...Got ammo, Godspeed!)
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To: Alberta's Child
And what values might they be, Mr. Cruz?

Traditional, conservative, American values, is this the first time you have heard of Ted Cruz?

12 posted on 03/09/2014 12:11:07 PM PDT by ansel12 (Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism.)
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To: SoConPubbie

13 posted on 03/09/2014 12:11:44 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: SoConPubbie
Super Man Ted Cruz

TED CRUZ:


14 posted on 03/09/2014 12:12:11 PM PDT by jimsin
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To: SoConPubbie
Rand Paul comes across more like Neville Chamberlin than anything else.

Actually, Rand Paul's foreign policy views work, but only when the main way to get to Europe is by boat.

15 posted on 03/09/2014 12:12:28 PM PDT by tbpiper
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To: ansel12
Of course it's not the first time I've heard of Ted Cruz.

I also recognize that any trust placed in the U.S. government to espouse traditional, conservative American values in its foreign policy is misplaced -- regardless of who we elect in Washington.

When was the last time the U.S. promoted these values in its foreign policy?

16 posted on 03/09/2014 12:16:10 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: Alberta's Child
Cruz--drew a distinction between himself and the Kentucky senator on foreign policy, saying the U.S. “has a responsibility to defend our values.”

You don't seem to know what he meant, ""And what values might they be, Mr. Cruz? Foreign policy initiatives that include the homosexualization of other nations, or combatting "climate change"?""

Is that what you think he meant?

17 posted on 03/09/2014 12:21:06 PM PDT by ansel12 (Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Go Ted go!


18 posted on 03/09/2014 12:28:00 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: skeeter

Bingo.

The post-WWII GOP should look back to Geo. Washington’s view of the world for how we should conduct ourselves for the next 100 years... or however long it takes to get our financial house in order.

We can no longer afford foreign adventures. We’re broke.


19 posted on 03/09/2014 12:29:17 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: SoConPubbie
Rand Paul comes across more like Neville Chamberlin than anything else.

Rand is basically his father in disguise - and that includes his fathers naive foreign and defense policies. This is an open secret among many/most of the Ron Paul cultists.

There is a lot of good a libertarian like Rand can do and I support many of his positions, but I can't agree to an isolationist foreign policy.

Between the two, Ted Cruz is vastly better. On the issues, I can't think of anything much I disagree with him on. Cruz strikes me as a modern day insurgent, grassroots conservative - much like Ronald Reagan was. With Rand, I strongly agree with him about half the time - much like I did with his goofy father.

20 posted on 03/09/2014 12:37:22 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: SoConPubbie

To paraphrase a line from Star Wars...

“Rand has too much of his father in him.”


21 posted on 03/09/2014 12:43:01 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: SoConPubbie
"The United States has a responsibility to defend our values"

I don't agree.

The United States government has a responsibility to limit our military endeavors to what is in our National Interest.

Otherwise we'd be fighting throughout the world, endlessly.

Kinda like what we're doing now.

Cruz and Paul and the others are going to have to answer some very specific, pointed questions over the next 3 years or so.

And this primary voter/contributor is not interested in fighting for "values"...like in Kosovo...Egypt...Libya...Syria...and, hopefully not Ukraine.

22 posted on 03/09/2014 12:44:48 PM PDT by Mariner (uely)
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To: SoConPubbie
The globalist pth backstabbing RINO puppet masters are of course going to try to put Rand Paul and Ted Cruz at odds with one another over anything they can. My response would be that together they could come up with a sane foreign policy, with elements from both of their views.

Neither one is talking about over the top crazy sanctions or war mongering in someone else's back yard.

Cruz/Paul or Paul/Cruz....that's how we win!

23 posted on 03/09/2014 12:47:56 PM PDT by grania
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To: ansel12
Was he naïve or stupid? How does he was call for the U.S. to defend traditional, conservative American values as a foreign policy matter when we can't even successfully promote them right here at home?
24 posted on 03/09/2014 12:57:27 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: Fresh Wind

Uncle Owen: “That’s what I’m afraid of”.


25 posted on 03/09/2014 1:02:01 PM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a GREAT life!)
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To: Alberta's Child

Cruz isn’t stupid or naive, why don’t you get to your real point, rather than playing this silly game.

You are attacking Cruz, but why, what is the real reason, and it isn’t about American values either, what you really want to promote is a view of foreign policy that you won’t just come out and say.


26 posted on 03/09/2014 1:04:00 PM PDT by ansel12 (Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism.)
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To: ansel12
I don't have a problem with Cruz at all. I'd vote for the guy tomorrow if I lived in his state or if he ran for the White House.

I just don't see how someone can stand up today with a straight face and claim that the U.S. should be defending "American values" around the world. Let's start by establishing those American values right here in America first, then we'll worry about "defending" those values around the world.

Personally, I'm not sure it's possible to promote American values in places that don't have our legal, political and financial institutions ... but that's a whole different story.

27 posted on 03/09/2014 1:10:09 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: Alberta's Child

I still am not seeing the real reason for all your energy to say nothing on this thread, yet to keep going after Cruz.

Especially since you seem to be posting isolationism on other threads.

Why not just get to what you really want to say.


28 posted on 03/09/2014 1:13:46 PM PDT by ansel12 (Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism.)
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To: Alberta's Child
I just don't see how someone can stand up today with a straight face and claim that the U.S. should be defending "American values" around the world. Let's start by establishing those American values right here in America first, then we'll worry about "defending" those values around the world.

Sill statement on your part.

When a potential candidate for any political office is laying the groundwork for that office, the present policy positions ON ALL areas that the job covers, not just one.

That's the easiest way to lose an election, focus on one area to the exclusion of all other areas.

Senator Cruz is completely Pro-Life and anti-Gay Marriage and there is not a hint that he would waffle on either of those or give the battle against either of those evils a lessor priority.
29 posted on 03/09/2014 1:16:36 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks SoConPubbie.


30 posted on 03/09/2014 1:53:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: ansel12

Maybe that’s your problem. You’re reading my posts on Threads B through Z and using them to read some kind of ulterior motives behind what I’m posting here on Thread A.


31 posted on 03/09/2014 1:59:28 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: SoConPubbie
"“I’m a big fan of Rand Paul. He and I are good friends. But I don’t agree with him on foreign policy,” Cruz said. “I think U.S. leadership is critical in the world. And I agree with him that we should be very reluctant to deploy military force abroad. But I think there is a vital role, just as Ronald Reagan did… The United States has a responsibility to defend our values.”"

Hard to top for bullcrap. BTW Obama isn't weak, he is realistic. Cruz's 'defend our values' means everything is on the table, including war. A war with Russia would be outright stupidity. It would be existential for us and China would pick up our pieces. Cruz - just keep talking about eliminating the IRS.

32 posted on 03/09/2014 2:02:57 PM PDT by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: Alberta's Child

When I read your posts, I see Cruz taking a beating from you.


33 posted on 03/09/2014 3:07:23 PM PDT by ansel12 (Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism.)
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To: ex-snook

So one vote for Obama over Cruz and Reagan in American foreign policy.


34 posted on 03/09/2014 3:08:54 PM PDT by ansel12 (Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism.)
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To: SoConPubbie

I don’t think there is much of a disagreement here.


35 posted on 03/09/2014 3:30:24 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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Agreed. I dont really have any doubt that either of these guys would defend us in the event of a clear and present danger, or in the event of direct attacks on our homeland or citizens at home or abroad. That is the first and most important test for a POTUS, and I have confidence in both of their abilities to pass it, unlike current Presidents I could name.

What the question seems to be here is how far from that standard to justify intervention. Mr. Paul seems to have a more conservative (in the literal definition of the word) stance on that than Mr. Cruz, although Mr. Cruz’s stance is not outrageous.

In the current state of our economy, I would tend to side with Mr. Paul’s definition simply because our economic house is not in order to support anything beyond that. Get that in shape, and then we can expand our influence...but right now, we just aren’t in that kind of shape.

But with that being said, I’d support either of these fine gentlemen, should they be the nominee.


36 posted on 03/09/2014 3:59:40 PM PDT by SoCalTransplant (Universal equality, free food, housing and healthcare describes both Liberal Utopia and Prison.)
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To: Alberta's Child
Was he naïve or stupid? How does he was call for the U.S. to defend traditional, conservative American values as a foreign policy matter when we can't even successfully promote them right here at home?

Weird post.

Cruz said...

Nothing wrong with what Cruz said.

37 posted on 03/09/2014 4:24:52 PM PDT by FreeReign
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How did this get out on ABC News Radio?

Because they think Cruz's opinions are ridiculous and they like exaggerating Republican divisions.

38 posted on 03/09/2014 5:13:15 PM PDT by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: SoConPubbie

This is a great example of why Ted Cruz is much better than Rand Paul.

Paul’s anti-foreign policy would be a disaster.


39 posted on 03/09/2014 6:31:48 PM PDT by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent)
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