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Cruz on O-Care repeal: ‘We’ll do it in 2017’
The Hill ^ | March 09, 2014, 10:47 am | Keith Laing

Posted on 03/09/2014 12:03:45 PM PDT by SoConPubbie

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) said Sunday that Republicans will repeal the controversial healthcare law after President Obama leaves office in 2017.

Cruz became of the face of an unsuccessful effort to eliminate the healthcare law last year that resulted in a government shutdown.

Most Republicans backed off the repeal-or-shutdown position after sustaining political damage during the two-week standoff in October, but Cruz promised on Sunday during an appearance on ABC News’s “This Week” to continue trying to get rid of Obamacare during the remainder of the president’s term.

“I’ll give you one scenario where it could [be repealed before Obama leaves office],” Cruz said. “If there’s one thing that unifies politicians in both parties is that their top priority is preserving their own hide. If enough congressional Democrats realize they either stand with ObamaCare and lose or they listen to the American people and have a chance at staying in office, that’s the one scenario we could do it in 2015. If not, we’ll do it in 2017.”

Cruz reiterated his case against the healthcare law, arguing that it was “the most unpopular law in the country.

“Millions of people have lost their jobs, have lost their healthcare, been forced into part time work, and right now Washington isn’t listening to those people,” Cruz said. “That’s how we win elections and that’s also how we repeal Obamacare law.” 

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 113th; 2014issues; 2017; abolishobamacare; aca; cruz; nullifyobamacare; obamacare; repeal; repealobamacare; tedcruz

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1 posted on 03/09/2014 12:03:45 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie; MarMema; skinkinthegrass; Bikkuri; o2bfree; 12th_Monkey; 230FMJ; TWhiteBear; ...
Ted Cruz Ping!

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Please beware, this is a high-volume ping list!
2 posted on 03/09/2014 12:05:01 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie
Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) said Sunday that Republicans will repeal the controversial healthcare law after President Obama leaves office in 2017.

Three years from now? An established entitlement? Anyone who honestly thinks Congress will do it then I've got a bridge to sell you.

3 posted on 03/09/2014 12:07:35 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

It would be great revenge - although bad precedent - to just do it by executive order along with repealing every other EO Zero signed.


4 posted on 03/09/2014 12:10:41 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Repealing Obamacare is only half the battle. NOT replacing it with some other obnoxious government program but rather persuading the majority of Americans that THE FREE MARKET is and always has been the best way to get the proven-best, highest-quality health care (or anything else) on earth, is the other half of the health care battle.


5 posted on 03/09/2014 12:11:43 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: reaganaut

His presidency is null and void across the board when they open the books and find he was not eligable for the office and Pelosi goes directly to jail for signing off on it, poetic justice


6 posted on 03/09/2014 12:14:32 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (zippy the a##clown sez..............................)
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To: DoodleDawg

In three years, the people will be begging for relief from this vicious law. They will have stood in line to see a doctor for a loved one who is gravely ill. They will have seen 50% of the physicians in this country set up clinics in Mexico or Canada or establishing private membership clubs, a medical version of Costco. They will have seen friends and relatives die because of this law.

Then the conservative president can declare this law null and void, as Obama has declared the Defense of Marriage Act, for example. He satisfied a bare 3% of the people with his nullification. Nullifying the ACA will satisfy 80% by then. What goes around, comes around.


7 posted on 03/09/2014 12:23:24 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: DoodleDawg

And I’ll sell the companion bridge.

This is just tossing meat to the base. Just another politician.


8 posted on 03/09/2014 12:25:00 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: DoodleDawg

It will never go away. It will just be amended and the can will be kicked as SOP.


9 posted on 03/09/2014 12:26:26 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: SoConPubbie

So he’s going to cancel my insurance AGAIN in three years when I’m three years from Medicare? Gee, thanks.


10 posted on 03/09/2014 12:27:54 PM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: txrefugee

Please tell me you don’t seriously believe that. ZERO chance that will happen. The time to have stopped/repealed this has passed. The GOP blew it.

No. America is not going to line up for the repeal. It will be business as usual. The GOP thought this with SS and Medicaid. They are still with us.

We need a different strategy that is based on a wide ranging Conservative platform and not just “Obamacare is evil”. It may be, but we aren’t suddenly going to have a collapse of the healthcare system because of it.

Run against it to be sure. But it must be done intelligently and not just “it’s bad mmmmkay” which is pretty much where we are.


11 posted on 03/09/2014 12:28:54 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: SoConPubbie

I hope this happens!!


12 posted on 03/09/2014 12:32:36 PM PDT by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos! Thank you David, Michael, Chris Txradioguy, JJ, CMS, & ALL Vets, too!)
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To: SoConPubbie; All
The Courts will eliminate still more parts of Obamacare, by then.

And, “State Compacts” can and will be passed by various States and approved by Congress, with NO role from Obama at all. These “State Compacts” will also eliminate large sections of Obamacare.

Obamacare will be little more than a national “High Risk Pool” within a few years. That portion of Obamacare would be hard to eliminate, as Obama got rid of all of the State High Risk Pools.

13 posted on 03/09/2014 12:36:25 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: SoConPubbie

If that’s to happen in 2017, Congress had better give Hillary an offer she can’t refuse.


14 posted on 03/09/2014 12:42:23 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: reaganaut

Repeal and replace with completely portable plans under the free market would be the ideal, but what you imply is intriguing - if Obama can take any or all of the Obamacare legislation and delay it until 2017 by fiat, what’s to stop a Republican president from taking any or all of it and delaying it until 2117?


15 posted on 03/09/2014 12:48:46 PM PDT by Stosh
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To: PapaNew

Bingo.

1. Dump obamacare.

2. Open state borders for insurance.

3. Refuse non Americans with no means to pay ANY BUT STAUNCHING BLEEDING / emergency breathing care at hospitals.

We would be better off paying for repatriation for all ill or hurt foreigners.

4. One law for insurance companies: make them issue one lower care, cover anyone mInimum care policy. It won’t cover much except cheap antibiotics, emergency surgery, etc.

If insurance companies would sit with hospitals for a redesign, they could make, for the poor, WARDS. This is how Switzerland does it. The cheap policies are for ward care. It is a room filled with beds, not a private or semi private room.

Every product or service has a continuum of quality. Health treatment should be the same. More money should get you better care. Period. Just like it gets you a better house, or TV.

It is a philosophical mistake to try to make up the difference to the poor. Punish the hard workers to help those who made mistakes. Aesop understood this over a thousand years ago. Heloooo.


16 posted on 03/09/2014 12:57:16 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Stosh

Repeal and replace with completely portable plans under the free market would be the ideal, but what you imply is intriguing - if Obama can take any or all of the Obamacare legislation and delay it until 2017 by fiat, what’s to stop a Republican president from taking any or all of it and delaying it until 2117?


There was an article here yesterday about the same issue: delaying its implementation until 3017!!!! Love it. Why not?


17 posted on 03/09/2014 12:58:58 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: SoConPubbie
"You know Cruz is gonna blow our scam, don't you, Mitch?"


18 posted on 03/09/2014 1:01:30 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: SoConPubbie
It may be done by an American Spring sooner than 2017, IMHO.
19 posted on 03/09/2014 1:16:04 PM PDT by llevrok (F the government)
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To: SoConPubbie

It will be repealed just after the IRS is abolished.


20 posted on 03/09/2014 1:22:27 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: SoConPubbie

Obama is going do it before 2017.


21 posted on 03/09/2014 1:23:21 PM PDT by managusta (The first sign of maturity is the discovery that the volume knob also turns to the left.)
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To: SoConPubbie; All
Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) said Sunday that Republicans will repeal the controversial healthcare law after President Obama leaves office in 2017.

As mentioned in related threads, I don't like Harvard Law School-indoctrinated Cruz's avoidance of discussing the fed's constitutionally limited powers. But I will reluctantly support him if that is who Obama guard dog Fx News nominates as Republican presidential candidate.

That said, regarding the repeal of Obamacare Democratcare, why isn't Cruz beating the drumb for patriots to also try to win 2/3 conservative control of both Houses of Congress in 2014 like patriots should have tried to do in 2012? Having supermajority control of Congress will give Congress the constitutional authority that it needs, under Clause 2 of Section 7 of Article I, the power to override presidential vetoes. So Congress would be able to repeal Obamacare Democratcare after 2014 elections without Obama's signature.

Note that Congress has used its power to override presidential vetoes as recently as Bushes 41 & 43, and also with Clinton.

List of United States presidential vetoes

So why is Cruz waiting until 2016 to repeal Obamacare Democratcare? Perhaps he's waiting for Democrats to blow themselves off of the political map in the first election after voters have to bear the burden of the full, constitutionally indefensible ACA tax tsunami? But I think that Cruz needs to diversify and at least let patriots know about both possibilities concerning repealing Obamacare Democratcare.

22 posted on 03/09/2014 1:25:44 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: DoodleDawg

With all of the delays being made it won’t really be established. If Pubbies want to get elected and have the majority needed to repeal 0bamaCare they need to get on board with Cruz and run on the platform of repeal.


23 posted on 03/09/2014 1:46:58 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: SoConPubbie
Millions of people have lost their jobs, have lost their healthcare, been forced into part time work, and right now Washington isn’t listening to those people,” Cruz said. “That’s how we win elections and that’s also how we repeal Obamacare law.”
Whip it on, Senator Cruz!!
TWB
24 posted on 03/09/2014 2:18:57 PM PDT by TWhiteBear (Sarah Palin, the Flame of the North)
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To: SoConPubbie

by 2017 it may be too entrenched - must be first thing on the agenda in 2015 with a veto proof Senate.


25 posted on 03/09/2014 2:40:43 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: reaganaut

I think it would make for a kinder and gentler nation - beside f the fraud and all who ride with him. TSA has enough dynamite to at least get them to the lift-off stage. After all they did want to be involved in space - but low earth gravity may have to work.


26 posted on 03/09/2014 2:58:13 PM PDT by mcshot (Their fraud is deep and unending...)
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To: RIghtwardHo
"No. America is not going to line up for the repeal.'

By 2017 Obama will have allowed all of the mandates to go into effect and millions will be dumped from employer health plans. The only existing game in town for these souls to obtain coverage will be through the ACA. Costs and complexity will be out of control, so reform will be needed. Single payor to the rescue. Besides Cruz's scenario requires a GOP controlled Congress and White House which is not likely to happen.

27 posted on 03/09/2014 2:59:42 PM PDT by buckalfa (Tilting at Windmills)
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To: SoConPubbie

Why not next January?


28 posted on 03/09/2014 4:51:12 PM PDT by jch10 (John Beohner has got to be removed from the Speaker position.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Whenever it takes, whatever it takes. The abomination of a law must be repealed.


29 posted on 03/09/2014 6:05:56 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: DoodleDawg; kristinn; IBD editorial writer; WashingtonSource; SeekAndFind; Diogenes; ...

” - - - An established entitlement? - - - “

“Both” Political Parties of our current Communal Federal Government understand that the purpose of naming a Master/Slave Federal Government Program an “Entitlement” is to deceive the enslaved population into believing that becoming slaves to a Master is something to be desired.

The Master/Slave Entitlement of Obamacare is the most Communal of all the Federal Government Master/Slave Entitlement Programs because it can legally collect monies and/or property after death of the Entitled Slave, or from their surviving family members.


30 posted on 03/10/2014 6:06:55 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Graewoulf

Yes, the ACA is aimed at extinguishing private property.

A common Leftist goal, which they don’t want discussed.

“Plunder by law”. (term by F. Bastiat)


31 posted on 03/10/2014 6:15:18 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: llevrok

I will be in DC on May 16th.

Outcome yet unknown.

But I am praying for the “Great American Awakening” of 2014.

(I like that term better, don’t like the things that happened during the Arab Spring)


32 posted on 03/10/2014 6:22:33 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: All
DO NOT FORGET O/Care is full of scams and tricks---various corrupt schemes to fulfill O's obsession WRT a permanent Dumbocrat Majority.

CASE IN POINT--Dumbos know O/Care is teeming w/ endless vote fraud tricks. And that's why they enthusiastically voted for it w/ an historic straight party-line vote.

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O/CARE IS AMNESTY W/ SPANISH SUBTITLES---Obama went on latino TV whining about "underdeserved" latinos and is conniving to get them enrolled.

INCONVENIENT FACTOID Latinos do not need to pay for O/Care---they can get free healthcare any frickin' time they want it.

Obama's "latino enrollment" scam is a ruse to get votes by putting illegals into O/Care. NOTE WELL healthcare.gov is also a voter registration site. Tricky Democrats can easily plug in enrollees into their voter rolls.....and count them as votes on election day.

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Here's how the tricky Dems work the enrollment/voter scam: O/Care's Oregon state exchange "accidentally" enrolled 4000 illegals

PASS THE WORD: This is a scam. Enrolling illegals was no accident. Obamacare web sites are also setup to accept voter registrations.

In Oregon vote-crazed Dems racked up 4000 votes (that we know of) to help them survive looming 2014 midterms).

CONTACT Oklahoma Secy of State
313 NE 21st St
Oklahoma City, OK 73105
(405) 557-1700
TollFree: (866) 227-7784

BOOKMARK THIS Each state's Secretary of State is required to check into all cases of reported voter fraud. Course a Dem won't. But many states have Repub Secy's of State. They should be notified about illegals registering via O/Care.....and fraudulently plugged into Democrat voter rolls.

33 posted on 03/10/2014 6:25:31 AM PDT by Liz
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To: SoConPubbie
"Most Republicans backed off the repeal-or-shutdown position after sustaining political damage during the two-week standoff in October"

What "political damage" do they keep trying to convince us they suffered? Most people i talked to said GOOD- KEEP IT SHUT DOWN.

Cruz came out WAY AHEAD because of his almost SOLE efforts

34 posted on 03/10/2014 8:27:20 AM PDT by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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