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Seniors Prevented From Getting HealthCare Under ObamaCare: The Details
Joe For america ^ | Mrch 7, 2014 | Rodney Lee Conover

Posted on 03/09/2014 4:10:13 PM PDT by lbryce

Nancy Pelosi said Americans would find out all about ObamaCare if Congress would only pass the bill. Now we’re finding that some seniors will not be allowed to spend as much as they choose to on their health care – even if they’re willing to pony up for it. !

Turns out that with ObamaCare, even if you qualify for health care you just might not get any..

A new report by the Robert Powell Center for Medical Ethics at National Right to Life titled “The Affordable Care Act and Health Care Access in the United States,” analyzes four fundamental policy areas of Obamacare.

It finds several ways that the federal health care law “will drastically limit access to life-saving medical treatment under the law.”

“These four areas include: the ‘excess benefit’ tax coming into effect in 2018, the current exclusion of adequate health insurance plans from the exchanges, present limits on senior citizens’ ability to use their own money for health insurance, and federal limits on the care doctors give their patients to be implemented as soon as 2016.”

Carol Tobias, president of National Right to Life, said that “for pro-life Americans concerned about the impact on innocent life – both born and unborn – the policies of Obamacare couldn’t be worse.”

“Americans are just as concerned with the law’s impact on our ability to access life-saving medical treatment for ourselves, our family members, and our loved ones as with Obamacare’s funding of abortions. Obamacare is bad medicine for America,” she said.

Pelosi famously said Congress should pass the law so Americans could find out what was in it, and its unpleasant surprises have been shocking citizens ever since.

The study finds, for example, that the “Independent Payment Advisory Board,” which starting next January is supposed to make “recommendations to slow the growth in national health expenditures,” will set “quality and efficiency” standards for hospitals and demand that doctors meet government minimums in order to contract with any qualified health insurance plan.

“Essentially, doctors, hospitals, and other health care providers can be told by Washington just what diagnostic tests and medical care are considered to meet ‘quality and efficiency’ standards. These standards will be enforced not just for health care paid for by federally funded programs like Medicare, but also for health care paid for by private citizens and by the health insurance they or their employers purchase,” the study explains.

“These standards are specifically designed to limit the funds that Americans may choose to spend on health care so that they cannot keep up with the rate of medical inflation. Treatment that a doctor and patient deem needed or advisable to save the patient’s life or preserve or improve the patient’s health, but which runs afoul of the imposed standards, can be denied, even if the patient is willing and able to pay for it,” the study warns. The study says that means that Washington “bureaucrats” will set a national standard for care “that is designed to limit what private citizens are allowed to spend to save their own lives.”


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: obamacare; obamadoesntcare; seniors
Well, what is new regarding the Sociopath-in-Chief?
1 posted on 03/09/2014 4:10:13 PM PDT by lbryce
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To: lbryce

Next will be bh0’s ‘stroke of the pen’ ordering that all seniors be —— Just too nasty of a thought to post.


2 posted on 03/09/2014 4:13:47 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: lbryce

re: “These four areas include: the ‘excess benefit’ tax coming into effect in 2018, the current exclusion of adequate health insurance plans from the exchanges, present limits on senior citizens’ ability to use their own money for health insurance, and federal limits on the care doctors give their patients to be implemented as soon as 2016.”

FYI, many seniors are paying a lot more re: healthcare now, while being denied services previously given... and needed.

Will pass this on,


3 posted on 03/09/2014 4:15:56 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray/Penance. Isa 5:18-21,10:1-3 "Tempus faciendi, Domine, dissipaverunt legem tuam")
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To: AliVeritas

True, but don’t overlook the benefits.

Every year sliced off the lifespan is a HUGE plus for SocSec and Medicare funding.

When the millenials get nervous about granny’s early demise, the regime will offer them some groupons for student loan relief.


4 posted on 03/09/2014 4:19:02 PM PDT by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: GreyFriar

“In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” - George Orwell

Are you afraid to commit a revolutionary act?


5 posted on 03/09/2014 4:21:03 PM PDT by null and void ( Obama is Law-Less because Republican "leaders" are BALL-LESS!!)
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To: lbryce

Seniors’ healthcare will be determined by how likely they are to make it to the next election.
No need to waste resources on non-voters.
/s


6 posted on 03/09/2014 4:25:17 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (HELL, NO! BE UNGOVERNABLE!)
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To: lbryce

un frickin believeable


7 posted on 03/09/2014 4:31:56 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: null and void

Revolutionary, no; vulgar, yes


8 posted on 03/09/2014 4:32:52 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: lbryce

9 posted on 03/09/2014 4:35:31 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: GreyFriar

Hussein was clear about his expectations at a Town Hall meeting years ago. He said elderly patients would be urged to “take the blue pill” (or something like that). Basically, do the right thing and off yourself.


10 posted on 03/09/2014 4:37:07 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: lbryce

REMEMBER,
1. seniors often tend to vote Republican
2. seniors are evil because they often tend to have more money
3. seniors are no longer useful to the State
4. seniors will cost the state more money to keep them alive
5. seniors tend to remember when the Transformed Amerika was still a constitutional republic
6. seniors may remember when the D party was still pro-American and pro-God (at least aspirationally or theoretically)
7. seniors may remember when basic moral values were at least respected (if not universally followed all the time)
8. seniors tend to think they know how to do things better than young “community organizers” of unknown origin (and any of same’s IslamoNazi or communist Czars or apparachniks)
9. seniors often like to drive global-warming type cars
10 seniors can frequently just be in the way of Progress(ivism), generally
11.seniors tend to have too much time on their hands to begin with
12.seniors tend to waste a lot of time playing cards and (oops!?) golf, and finally
13.seniors are only willing to vote one time per election, even if you can somehow con them to voting for you.

....
so there’s no surprise... Obamacare’s death panels and other wonderful provisions will just cull the herd is all

Problem Solved!

(Next?)


11 posted on 03/09/2014 4:40:41 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (")
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To: lbryce

If you have your own money to spend on health care, it is time to exploer “medical tourism” i.e. go offshore. The prices are cheaper and the medicine is as good as a few years ago in the USA. It is where our best doctors are or will be going. American doctors will mostly head for the Caribbean. English and Canadian doctors mostly went to India and Thailand. For younger folks international health insurance is available and not terribly expensive.


12 posted on 03/09/2014 4:41:01 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: lbryce

What a colossal mistake the American public made! With their heads firmly up their anal passageway, they marched to the polls and voted for the biggest disaster this country has ever seen!


13 posted on 03/09/2014 4:47:05 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: lbryce

-—> Death Panels.


14 posted on 03/09/2014 4:55:54 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: GreyFriar

“The president’s specific words: I’m “really good at killing people,” authors Mark Halperin and John Heilemann write”


15 posted on 03/09/2014 4:57:01 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: arthurus
Hospital Ships floating just out of territorial waters.

Maybe Cuba can actually get a great Health Care System for tourists.

16 posted on 03/09/2014 5:00:29 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: GreyFriar

That’s just what this is, only slowly.


17 posted on 03/09/2014 5:10:50 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: I want the USA back

Sad part is that a good number of those who voted for him don’t yet realize what a mistake that made. They will find out when they get sick and there is no health care for them. There will have to be some catastrophic consequence to them personally before they wake up. By then it will be too late.


18 posted on 03/09/2014 5:11:43 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: faithhopecharity
(Next?)

Seniors were educated before the public schools and colleges were converted to indoctrination centers for socialism, homosexualism, recreational sex and anti-Americanism, and before many dedicated, patriotic educators were replaced with drug addled 60's hippies, Affirmative Action numb-skulls and union stooges.


19 posted on 03/09/2014 5:13:57 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Albert Einstein: The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: Paladin2

A number of the Caribbean countries have changed their laws and tax codes to attract expatriate American doctors.


20 posted on 03/09/2014 5:19:28 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: arthurus

Serious money will be made supplying healthcare offshore to the top 10% or so of Americans.


21 posted on 03/09/2014 5:22:08 PM PDT by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: GreyFriar

Hmmmmmm, could be both?


22 posted on 03/09/2014 5:30:43 PM PDT by null and void ( Obama is Law-Less because Republican "leaders" are BALL-LESS!!)
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To: Iron Munro

Yes. ( that part about “ recreational sex. “ sounds interesting however ....?).


23 posted on 03/09/2014 5:42:05 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (")
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To: lbryce

Seniors schooled in the art of war should seek out and eliminate these ba$tards.


24 posted on 03/09/2014 5:47:48 PM PDT by Renegade
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To: Iron Munro

Seniors were educated before the public schools and colleges were converted to ...
______________________________________

IOW seniors can read...They “Old School”

while the Jeantels of “New School” cant...

and that’s unacceptable to those wanting to keep the contents of ObamaCare secret..

The seniors will discover they don’t have a future in the new and improved Brave New World of America...

and those seniors own most of the guns..

Eh Pelosi ???


25 posted on 03/09/2014 5:48:49 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: nascarnation

“Every year sliced off the lifespan is a HUGE plus for SocSec and Medicare funding.”

In addition the increasing drumbeat regarding “income inequality” will eventually be used to justify higher inheritance taxes. Killing people off early will allow the government to appropriate their assets for the good of the poor and oppressed.


26 posted on 03/09/2014 5:52:53 PM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: Paladin2

“Hospital Ships floating just out of territorial waters.”

Offshore medical care and hospital ships will be coming. However, in the event of an emergency (auto accident, heart attack, stroke) our medical care will be determined by government rules at the local emergency room. If you have a massive heart attack at home it won’t matter if you can get first class care in the Cayman Islands. If the bureaucrat decides you can’t have the heart valve, stent, or transplant on the spot in your own town, you won’t make it.


27 posted on 03/09/2014 5:57:00 PM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: Renegade

Seniors with nothing to lose will make and execute said plans. Priming the pump...so to speak.


28 posted on 03/09/2014 6:01:44 PM PDT by jy8z (When push comes disguised as nudge, I do not budge.)
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To: jy8z

Making my list and checking it twice!


29 posted on 03/09/2014 6:03:27 PM PDT by Renegade
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To: lbryce

It’s gotta be lie. Charlie Crist said it was working great here in Florida.


30 posted on 03/09/2014 6:06:54 PM PDT by tbpiper
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To: Soul of the South

I wonder if the Native Americans should start some free enterprise hospitals. If there is no repeal of Obamacare I can see it happening.


31 posted on 03/09/2014 6:07:56 PM PDT by Sicvee (Sicvee)
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To: nascarnation

The top 10% and many in the lower economic levels who have a little foresight. I advise all my coworkers, most of whom are under 40 to investigate international insurance and to bone up on medical tourism. Several have been doing so. Interestingly, the ones who have got into it the most are black. One young woman and her husband have even got passports and have located a distant relative with land in the Bahamas. They are investigating offshoring themselves and he has already lined up work in Nassau. These folks are security guards with two small children, as I am. They are not in the top 75%. The conversation started when I found the wife listening to Mark Levin.


32 posted on 03/09/2014 6:19:03 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: GreyFriar

Death panels. Watch for the term “comfort meds”.


33 posted on 03/09/2014 6:26:50 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Paladin2

He is even more of a disgrace than I thought he would be. Who says something like that? A mafia don?


34 posted on 03/09/2014 6:31:29 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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present limits on senior citizens’ ability to use their own money for health insurance...

Seniors on Medicare can get supplemental insurance, some of it quite good.

35 posted on 03/09/2014 7:29:34 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: MayflowerMadam

“take the blue pill”

Take a hot lead injection. My prescription for bringing D.C. back to good health.


36 posted on 03/09/2014 7:31:43 PM PDT by beelzepug (if any alphabets are watchin', I'll be coming home right after the meetin')
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To: AliVeritas

Where is a solid report on this, not just a blog?


37 posted on 03/09/2014 8:59:18 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: lbryce

Time for your purple Kool-Aid Mrs. Anderson...


38 posted on 03/09/2014 10:41:21 PM PDT by Birdsbane ("Onward through the fog!" ... Oat Willie)
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To: Sicvee

“I wonder if the Native Americans should start some free enterprise hospitals. If there is no repeal of Obamacare I can see it happening.”

Good idea.


39 posted on 03/10/2014 3:52:31 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: nascarnation

The bigger problem for Democrats would be that old people vote, and they aren’t going to be happy if told you can’t have care through Medicare, and you can’t pay for it out of pocket, drop dead.


40 posted on 03/10/2014 6:20:35 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: ilovesarah2012
Comfort meds? Yes, health care will quickly turn into palliative care for a large portion of seniors. Gee, won't they be able to save money! All of a sudden those higher senior rates will actually become wildly "profitable."

Yes, "profit mixed with death" as seniors are robbed of their savings, forced to subsidize the youth and all the while being given morphine, just for the pain.

HF

41 posted on 03/10/2014 8:13:27 AM PDT by holden
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