Skip to comments.The war on standards — dumbing down the SAT
Posted on 03/09/2014 6:08:40 PM PDT by prairiebreeze
The College Board is once again altering the SAT. According to the Washington Post, the SATs writers appear to be doing two things: changing what they test and making the test easier.
To me, it sounds as if the SAT will be made easier largely by changing what it tests. For example, the Post says that students will no longer be expected to know difficult, lesser-used vocabulary words and advanced mathematical concepts will disappear from the exam (my understanding is that truly advanced mathematical concepts do not appear on the current exam).
No one who has been paying attention can doubt the main purpose behind the overhauling of the SAT. Members of certain minority groups perform far worse than average on the exam. This fact doesnt prevent most colleges from admitting pre-determined levels of minority students under their race-based preferential admissions systems. But the outcomes under these preferential systems (e.g., vast disparities between the average scores of admitted black and white students), unless concealed, subject the systems to much criticism
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What is the big deal? All this means is that the universities will adjust their admission standards for the new scores.
‘advanced mathematical concepts’ being trig.
I was doing calculus in my junior year (11th grade)... and they’re going to dumb it down more?!
this is how you guarantee Americans don’t get those high paying tech jobs...
This reminds me of when Herbert Hoover was elected king. That was in 1885. He didn’t want people to be educated, so he made television sets illegal. He seized 110% of all the televisions, so he got most of ‘em. But then Jimmy Carter seized power and the good old type of education we have today was restored to the USSA.
I got "aviatrix" wrong on the GRE, on the basis of "too obvious". Seems like a regular word to me now ... don't know why I never learned it before my senior year of college.
But you won't catch me campaigning to eliminate "aviatrix" from the GRE!
Did they do this for the benefit of a particular group?
I thought they already dumbed it down a couple of times of the last 30 years.
Idiotocracy, the first movie that was a comedy and now a documentary.
Sorry to the freeper that said that first but it is so true.
“No one who has been paying attention can doubt the main purpose behind the overhauling of the SAT. Members of certain minority groups perform far worse than average on the exam. This fact doesnt prevent most colleges from admitting pre-determined levels of minority students under their race-based preferential admissions systems. But the outcomes under these preferential systems (e.g., vast disparities between the average scores of admitted black and white students), unless concealed, subject the systems to much criticism”
Note also the "bottom line". That tells all.
“I like money...”
Just FYI, Idiocracy.
Well, if the group eligible for acceptance is larger but is defined by lesser standards, then the schools could use a quota system based on, say race, to select students for admission.
Ok, I spelled it wrong.
In third grade I got credit for a good idea.
I thought you just forgot the name. Kudos on the idea.
I've mentioned this before, in slightly different terms, but my Math SAT would have one question:
What's the sine of 45 degrees, exactly ?
Since it's only one question, it's not multiple choice :-)
This is reminiscent of Griggs v. Duke Power. That Supreme Court case, in which a black man did what members of his race usually do, i.e., after failing miserably in a job situation, he ran to the courts for redress...and he got it. That set the stage for what we're now experiencing. You see, businesses, told that they could not administer IQ or other ability tests, went to the college degree as a proxy, hence, the explosion in everyone and his brother going to college.
And NO one really getting a meaningful education either....
And also taking MEANINGLESS “women’s studies” courses or other sociopolitical shit—that does NOT help in the real world !!
I'm gonna call you on this. You didn't spell it wrong, you remembered it wrong. "IdioTOcracy" is not a misspelling of "Idiocracy," it's a different word. I mean, it could have been "Idiotocracy," but it wasn't.
But I do know how to spell RESPECT.
I did better than the Brown Clown.
I think that’s most likely true.
“But you won’t catch me campaigning to eliminate “aviatrix” from the GRE!”
I’ve always wondered why it’s Senator Boxer, not Senatrix Boxer.
“Difficult” words capture subtleties that simpler words don’t.
American schools chase after mediocrity.
And this has been happening for many years, starting soon after the Department of Education came into existence.
The data is clear - check it!!
Re your post 20, I think there’s a lot of truth in that, based upon what I hear about many students using those loans to essentially “hang out” for four years, avoiding the real world.
They have dumb down the students, so that’s why they have to lower the standards. They keep it up nobody will have a “passing” sat score. That’s their goal, but this will mask it. (I used to think this was conspiracy theory...but we are actually living it. BS covered with a thin candy coating.)
This is an exhibition, not a contest.
There’s a reason for everything, and it’s obvious to me why The One slipped up here. It’s because of the song, which was the basis of his statement, after all. In the recitation of the spelling, the “E” can get lost in the “R” to “S” transition, so that it’s easy to elide it, very much as the “a” in Neil Armstrong’s “for a man”.
I read the biography of Peter the Great by Massie, and I was quite struck by the story of Peter’s son, who had neither the aptitude nor the inclination to succeed his father, and was as gay as an Easter bonnet to boot.
His father the Tsar formally gave him a year ( I think ) to shape up and get Tsar-like, but he took this as a 1 year reprieve and went on a gay romp across Europe. Of course, he paid the price in the end.
Treating the illusion isn't treating the problem... don't they know that?
Blacks and Hispanics do poorly on the SAT, therefore it is racist.
That's because you're a racist.
Well, I can certainly understand that!
Since division is too complex for math teachers to teach, the kids are allowed to complete division questions with the help of a calculator.
Are calculators allowed for students taking the SAT’s?????
Back in my days in high school in the fifties, there was no such thing as a calculator (except for the Friden 99 key totalizer, which was unaffordable).
So all our math work was figured out with paper and pencil, and many super long hours of homework!
Its a roundabout way to put pressure on states that opted out of Common Core, said Whitney Neal, director of Grassroots at Freedom Works. If you are legislator from Virginia lets say, this will put pressure on you obtain material to make your district more appealing especially to homebuyers. SAT averages are often included in realtor information and high school success rate is always a selling point.
The man known as the "architect" of Common Core has used his new job running the College Board to deal a devastating blow to critics of the national education standards.
The SAT was revamped to align with the Common Core Standards Initiative, the broad language and math standards adopted by 45 states despite growing complaints that it will result in nationalized control of K-12 curriculum. The announcement on Tuesday was made by College Board President David Coleman, who before taking the post in 2012, played a key role in designing Common Core.
You can't teach high school geometry if the student has had no exposure to things like multiplication without a calculator.
Of course. The 'Rat constituencies -- minorities, gays, and feminists (I accidentally wrote "faminists" -- hope I wasn't channeling something!!) have been running education policy for 40 years now.
Oh, and did I mention the Communists at the core of the educracy and in the NGO cadres?
March 9, 2014 at 10:25 pm
Mr. Coleman is a wicked, self-centered educator. Dr. Ravitch you dont know how much hurt is in my heart reading about the changes to be made in the SAT. After 50 years as an educator in colleges and secondary schools. His philosophical base is all wrong. The new SATs will discriminate against achievement, against math and language standards, and favor certain ethnic groups over others all points completely against SAT philosophy since its inception. It is a revolution that will produce even more confusion and chaos than we have now (is that possible?). Further, Mr. Coleman is one of those politically correct individuals who is always mouthing off about our becoming more internationally competitive in education. Yet, with further diluting of the SAT (the readjustment of the mean score a few years ago was the first diluting step), we shall actually be less competitive. I do not consider myself to be a maudlin or sentimental person, but when I read about the changes, tears literally came to my eyes. I have dedicated most of my life to the intellectual development of students of all races, religions, and creeds, and regardless of their economic standing. My own father was a blue collar worker, and I had the opportunity to obtain degrees from Ivy League institutions. Like Mr. Coleman, I am Jewish. I read about his bar mitzvah. I also was bar mitzvahed. What did he learn from being Jewish? I learned that you shall not bear false witness (its one of the Ten Commandments). Watering down a standardized test is bearing false witness. Its saying that your score is just as valid as someone elses who received the same score but answered more difficult questions. Is that not a lie no matter how sophisticated your defense of the change might purport to be?
March 9, 2014 at 10:34 pm
One other point . Mr. Colemans longtime association with Michelle Rhee is, as you clearly state, a red flag regarding the philosophical foundations of his educational goals. Michelle Rhee lacks educational values and ideals and sees education as a form of marketing rather than as a system of passing on knowledge and values. The teacher is not a mere facilitator, nor is he or she to be evaluated according to cost-benefit parameters. Rather, the teacher is the key to unlocking student achievement for a better future and for independent thinking. Further, Michelle Rhee and her ilk are reversing the time honored ideal of in loco parentis where the teachers being placed under the control of the master puppeteers of the Core Curriculum and administrators, teachers, students, and, lastly, parents are under the control of an impersonal system run by technocrats, software engineers, and arch-manipulators, not by loving adults who care about kids. So, to coin a phrase, we now have in loco educationensis where parents must submit to the values and premises of the schools, and the schools must submit (all personnel) to the values and premises of the master controllers. Its Platos Republic, Book VII, writ large. Or, eventually (tomorrow?) will be 1984 or Brave New World.
Source (cold link): http://dianeravitch.net/2012/05/19/who-is-david-coleman/