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Bizarre: missing Malaysia Airlines passengers' phones ring, but no one answers
News 24 ^ | 3/10/14 | News 24

Posted on 03/10/2014 7:53:39 AM PDT by jimbo123

The mystery surrounding the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 has thickened somewhat as family members of passengers have reported mobile phones ringing, but nobody answering.

International Business Times reports that 19 families have signed a joint statement saying that passengers' cell phones connected after the flight had been reported missing. In each case, the phone would ring, but the call would be hung up.

The sister of one of the Chinese passengers among the 239 people on board the missing flight rang his phone live on TV twice at 11:40 on Sunday morning and heard it ringing. She called again later that afternoon and heard it ring once more.

The Mirror reports that she expressed her hope that if the call went through, police could locate the position.

A man from Beijing also called his missing brother, and reported to the airline that the phone connected three times and rang before appearing to hang up.

Relatives who signed the joint statement have asked Malaysia Airlines to reveal any information they may have been hiding.

(Excerpt) Read more at news24.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: malaysia; missingjet
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1 posted on 03/10/2014 7:53:39 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

Ok, color me stupid, but if cell phones go in the water, they don’t ring do they?


2 posted on 03/10/2014 7:55:12 AM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: jimbo123

Now it’s the “Twilight Zone.” Or is it “Lost”?


3 posted on 03/10/2014 7:55:29 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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To: jimbo123

The phone isn’t ringing. The system is.


4 posted on 03/10/2014 7:56:33 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: jimbo123

Active cell phones can be easily tracked. It would be irresponsible to not have already done this.


5 posted on 03/10/2014 7:58:50 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: jimbo123

now why the hell wouldn’t this have been checked out as one of the very first things?


6 posted on 03/10/2014 7:59:25 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: jimbo123

7 posted on 03/10/2014 7:59:27 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: jimbo123

The phone companies should be able to tell if they get a ping from the phone or if the towers are just sending out the signal blindly.


8 posted on 03/10/2014 7:59:41 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: LS

I would think if the phone was in water, it wouldn’t ring at all.

Also, I’m wondering about the black boxes; Doesn’t the FDR have a transponder on it? Have they tried picking up the ping?


9 posted on 03/10/2014 8:00:07 AM PDT by k4gypsyrose
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To: BitWielder1

Notice they are saying they are giving out all the information they can at this time...which means...they have more info but can’t give it out yet.


10 posted on 03/10/2014 8:00:24 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Yep. If the call originated from a phone, a record is generated showing, among other things, what tower was used.


11 posted on 03/10/2014 8:00:57 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: bkepley
Please explain in layman's terms.
12 posted on 03/10/2014 8:01:36 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963 (=)
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To: LS
Ok, color me stupid, but if cell phones go in the water, they don’t ring do they?

Not unless they're designed for underwater use.

When you call somebody's phone you don't actually hear that person's phone ring. What you hear is a ring back tone generated by the carrier to simulate the phone ringing.

Depending on the carrier they could be generating the ring back tone while they're trying to connect the call?

13 posted on 03/10/2014 8:02:00 AM PDT by Ramcat (Thank You American Veterans)
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To: jimbo123

When you call someone you don’t hear their telephone ring, you hear a ringback tone supplied by the telephone network.

That just tells you that the network is sending out a signal to ring the other telephone.


14 posted on 03/10/2014 8:02:55 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Albert Einstein: The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: jimbo123

One man leaving his phone behind on dry land so that it rings is one thing...

but several phones ringing is quite another...


15 posted on 03/10/2014 8:03:10 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: cuban leaf

If the plane had come out of America, we would be screaming and demanding that we be told where the heck those phones are..and lawyers would be getting involved.

I guess they are a little more laid back in Asia.


16 posted on 03/10/2014 8:03:23 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: jimbo123

I don’t believe that cell phones work like land lines where in order for the phone to ring, there has to be an actual connection from source to destination made.


17 posted on 03/10/2014 8:04:02 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: woodbutcher1963

You don’t call another cell phone, you call a controller which calls the cell phone. It’s quite possible this controller would provide feedback to the user in the form of ringing sounds before the cell phone is actually reached and it’s also likely that some of the cell phones on the plane were still registered on the system so the system would think it likely that the cell phone could be reached.


18 posted on 03/10/2014 8:04:15 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: jimbo123
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19 posted on 03/10/2014 8:07:41 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: jimbo123
What...no GPS positioning on the phone?

I would guess that the phone was in a bag in the baggage department and the baggage is floating someplace.

We need to find out if he called his bro right after he boarded or visa versa.

I suppose I should read the entire article first.

20 posted on 03/10/2014 8:09:37 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: jimbo123
Just for the heck of it, I took the battery out of my cell phone and then used my home phone to call my cell phone. I still got a ringing sound.

Not sure this is proof of a conspiracy.

Now, about the stolen passports....

21 posted on 03/10/2014 8:09:44 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: RummyChick

Malaysia’s civil aviation chief Azharuddin Abdul Rahman has suggested that the two passengers who were travelling on stolen passports on the missing Malaysia Airlines MH370 looked like black Italian footballer Mario Balotelli.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-mario-balotelli-lookalikes-had-stolen-passports-1439638

the man could pass for a SOMALI


22 posted on 03/10/2014 8:10:02 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Jesus came to Save not Entertain / Ground John Kerry Now!)
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To: BlueStateRightist

...or ‘Millenium’?......................


23 posted on 03/10/2014 8:10:32 AM PDT by Red Badger (LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
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To: Iron Munro
When you call someone you don’t hear their telephone ring, you hear a ringback tone supplied by the telephone network. That just tells you that the network is sending out a signal to ring the other telephone.

That makes sense. However, the families of those who were on board the plane are in a highly emotional state, desperate for any small ray of hope that they can cling to. Hearing the phone ring provides them with that faint glimmer of hope, even if it is totally unrealistic. We need to cut those families some slack on this.

24 posted on 03/10/2014 8:11:43 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: jimbo123

This is a common claim after airplane crashes.

It’s a misunderstanding of how the cell phones work, and a desire not to accept what has happened.


25 posted on 03/10/2014 8:11:55 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: cuban leaf

Beat me to it!...................................


26 posted on 03/10/2014 8:11:56 AM PDT by Red Badger (LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
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To: RummyChick
I miss read the story. I honestly thought they were saying they were being called by the phones of the people on the plane. If they are calling and getting rings, that is just the system doing it. It doesn't mean there is a functioning phone.

Yeah, it shouldn't do that but you get all sorts of inconsistent behavior when calling a phone that is out of range or turned off.

27 posted on 03/10/2014 8:12:08 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: jimbo123

One other thing...it’s next to impossible that a cell phone site could be reached from that location or that a cell phone on the airplane would register on a site that is within reach of that location.


28 posted on 03/10/2014 8:12:32 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: bkepley

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-passengers-mobile-phones-ring-not-answered-1439560
To this, Dunleavy replied that MAS was calling the mobile phones of the crew members as well, which were ringing, and that he had given the numbers to Chinese investigators.

Relatives of the passengers are urging the authorities to search for the location of phones that rang using the Global Positioning System.

However, at a press conference in Beijing, MAS spokesman Ignatius Ong said one of the numbers that had been passed on to the airline’s command office in Kuala Lumpur failed to get through.


29 posted on 03/10/2014 8:12:37 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: k4gypsyrose

Teh FDR and CVR have an electronic sonic locator beacon that is activated when it contacts salt water. You would have to be quite close to hear the chirp. I would guess no more that a hundred yards or so.


30 posted on 03/10/2014 8:12:44 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: LS
Ok, color me stupid, but if cell phones go in the water, they don’t ring do they?

I don't think phones "ring" the way they used to. I called someone the other day on their land line. It "rang" on my end but then an automated message played. The person I was calling was already on the line, so it never "rang". The phone company provides a ringing sound because it beats silence (and Muzak). I imagine cell phones have the same setup.
31 posted on 03/10/2014 8:12:58 AM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: jimbo123
What's missing...a message on the receiving end? Do cell phones have them?

No one is getting a message...only a ring.

32 posted on 03/10/2014 8:14:47 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: jimbo123
I seriously doubt that there are any cell phone towers near the plane's last known location.
33 posted on 03/10/2014 8:15:51 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Barack Hussein Obama entertains a thought that he does not verbalize, is it still a lie?)
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To: cuban leaf

Days after the incident..no word on tracking of those phones.

As a family member, I would want to know why.


34 posted on 03/10/2014 8:16:14 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: jimbo123

When you dial a phone (land line OR cell), the ringing you hear in your ear as the caller has NOTHING to do with the actual ringing of the destination phone.

Prove it yourself by calling another phone in the same room and compare the sound in the earpiece to the actual ringing.

You can unplug a landline phone, and if you call it from another number, you still hear “ringing” in the earpiece.

I don’t know if it’s universal or not, but if a cell phone is turned off, or otherwise out of reach of a cell tower, the caller will hear one ring and it goes directly to voice mail. If someone doesn’t have the voice mail option, I don’t know what happens.


35 posted on 03/10/2014 8:16:43 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: RummyChick
To this, Dunleavy replied that MAS was calling the mobile phones of the crew members as well, which were ringing, and that he had given the numbers to Chinese investigators.

Again the tone is not from the cell phone but from the controller.

36 posted on 03/10/2014 8:17:02 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: GreenHornet

It breaks my heart that these family members are clinging desperately to this false hope. I cannot fathom...


37 posted on 03/10/2014 8:18:12 AM PDT by mn-bush-man
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To: Texas Eagle

“Just for the heck of it, I took the battery out of my cell phone and then used my home phone to call my cell phone. I still got a ringing sound.”

And every time I get on an airliner and turn my phone off, the people that call me hear the same ringing. I hate to tell the poor tortured relatives, but this is a major “duh” moment.


38 posted on 03/10/2014 8:18:19 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: woodbutcher1963
Please explain in layman's terms.

The ring you hear when you call another phone is not generated by that phone, but by the telephone central office. It is a placeholder to let you know the system is working on finding the handset somewhere within its system. If it cannot locate the handset, or the handset is not answered, then you are sent to voicemail.

39 posted on 03/10/2014 8:21:50 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: jimbo123

These questions could all be answer by calling one number. NSA.


40 posted on 03/10/2014 8:22:24 AM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: jimbo123

All cell phones calls through at the NSA headquarters, then forward to the cell phone once the recorders activate.


41 posted on 03/10/2014 8:24:17 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: LS

I think the idea is that there was no crash. the plane is somewhere above water. No?


42 posted on 03/10/2014 8:25:40 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: jimbo123

I understand the pone bit. But things don’t just disappear. I do think it may have been hijacked...’cept it would take a long landing strip. Who knows. And who trusts the government over there.


43 posted on 03/10/2014 8:26:20 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: LS

No they don’t ring but if it’s ringing she probably forgot to take it with her.


44 posted on 03/10/2014 8:27:23 AM PDT by pgkdan
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To: LS

No they don’t ring but if it’s ringing she probably forgot to take it with her.


45 posted on 03/10/2014 8:27:24 AM PDT by pgkdan
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To: Blood of Tyrants

There should be an ELT in the rafts onboard. They are tracked by satellites - but not sure if they need to be manually located or are automatically engaged when hitting water. This is just weird to me.

If the entire plane was hijacked and landed somewhere else, or if it landed in the water or hit a mountain in the middle of the ocean, it should have been located by now. Unless, Airport ‘77 style, it is intact at the bottom of the ocean.


46 posted on 03/10/2014 8:27:49 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: bkepley

On what do you base your knowledge.

Because there are reports that the cell phone WILL NOT ring unless a cell phone tower can pick up a connection.

Btw, taking the battery out is not enough of a test.

WOuldn’t you also have to take out the Sim card


47 posted on 03/10/2014 8:28:49 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

ELT- Emergency Locator Transmittor


48 posted on 03/10/2014 8:28:54 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: RummyChick

There’s nothing to track if the phone is inoperable. And any other info about the phone requires a subpoena. Assuming no conspiracy, all it is going to do is confirm where the phone was when it went into airplane mode, was turned off, or got dunked in salt water.


49 posted on 03/10/2014 8:30:01 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Texas Eagle

Nicely done, but you may have to be banned at FR for spoiling the conspiracy fun....


50 posted on 03/10/2014 8:30:08 AM PDT by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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