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Pro-Russia Troops Install Minefields, Border Markers in Crimea;
Townhall.com ^ | March 10, 2014 | Mike Shedlock

Posted on 03/10/2014 11:11:49 AM PDT by Kaslin

The takeover of Crimea by Russia is nearly complete. All that remains is the final vote on March 16. There would not be a vote if the outcome was uncertain.

Troops Install Minefields, Border Markers in Crimea

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Russia
KEYWORDS: gazprom; naturalgas; russia; ukraine; viktoryanukovich; yuliatymoshenko
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1 posted on 03/10/2014 11:11:49 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

More of Putin’s benign (sarcasm) actions, as it’s seen by his cheerleaders, the Putinista pseudo conservatives.


2 posted on 03/10/2014 11:17:01 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free the USA.)
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To: Kaslin

“I feel sorry for those who will soon be living in a nation they do not feel part of. But there is little that can be done about it.”

Indeed. Soros nation here and abroad.


3 posted on 03/10/2014 11:23:03 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (If you can read this, you are part of the resistance. Or some scum sucking kapo.)
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To: Kaslin
Fait accompli
4 posted on 03/10/2014 11:40:05 AM PDT by fhayek
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To: Kaslin

No problem. We do the same between our states...


5 posted on 03/10/2014 11:42:54 AM PDT by null and void ( Obama is Law-Less because Republican "leaders" are BALL-LESS!!)
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To: Kaslin

“Troops Install Minefields, Border Markers in Crimea”

In preparation for referendum vote obviously.


6 posted on 03/10/2014 11:46:57 AM PDT by Justa
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To: Kaslin

This is what we need on our southern border.


7 posted on 03/10/2014 11:59:20 AM PDT by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: elhombrelibre

If you misunderstand the forum’s understanding of Putin as “calling him benign”, “cheerleading” and “putinista”, you’re missing out the big picture: Putin is playing the right cards, nobody else is, and that’s going to shape geopolitics, like it or not. Thinking “since he’s the bumbling bad guy, nothing he can do will be ever well done” will only deepen the situation.


8 posted on 03/10/2014 12:11:20 PM PDT by Moose Burger
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To: Moose Burger

He’s not benign. Ask the Russians if he is. Thanks for cluing me on the big picture. You can admire his clever and cunning abuse of power all you want. It’s still a free country and you can cheer for anyone you want.


9 posted on 03/10/2014 12:27:04 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free the USA.)
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To: Monterrosa-24

Some of these Putinissta people could be more comfortable praising and justifying his attack on Ukraine at the NATION or the GUARDIAN.


11 posted on 03/10/2014 12:43:36 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free the USA.)
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To: Kaslin
The real question is if the minefields are to keep the Ukrainian army out or the citizens of the Crimea in. Remember that the Berlin Wall was not about keeping outsiders on the outside, but keeping good communists on the inside.
12 posted on 03/10/2014 12:52:21 PM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: Moose Burger

Putin is playing the right cards, nobody else is, and that’s going to shape geopolitics, like it or not. Thinking “since he’s the bumbling bad guy, nothing he can do will be ever well done” will only deepen the situation.


No, you seem to be misunderstanding. The KGB thug is dealing from the war criminal deck. He belongs in a cell in the Hague. Invading a neighbor with soldiers without insignia, naval blockading, minefields, etc. Those are all indictable war crimes.

What Putin is doing is just a replay of the old Russian assault your neighbor play book. A well worn path and nothing special. But feel free to continue cheerleading if you wish.


13 posted on 03/10/2014 12:54:42 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: elhombrelibre

“Admiring” is also not quite the right word. “Cheering” is not, period. It’s more of a standoff situation. Blink and you lose. Well, not us; we can blink from time to time, but that’s not the point. The point is, right now, not understanding everyone in the conflict’s strengths and weaknesses is only a disadvantage. It would not be the best strategy to say “don’t look at him, he could entice you to evil”.

I don’t know if that’s possible, but the best course of action would require the maturity to be able to say “yes, he successfully does that and that and that” and not thinking the one who says so is either an idiot or a communist shill just for noticing. Specially because that phrase has to be followed with “Now, how do we stop him?”


14 posted on 03/10/2014 1:02:34 PM PDT by Moose Burger
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To: lodi90

Fine... they’re “the right evil cards” or whatever. The point is, they work. He’s playing to win. Now, who’s answering to his play with “let’s lock him in Hague?” Nobody? Here it is. He’s winning. That’s not cheerleading - that’s plain and simple kibitzing.


15 posted on 03/10/2014 1:06:32 PM PDT by Moose Burger
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To: elhombrelibre
Oops, in my haste I posted a ring pic of Wladimir Klitschko instead of Vitali Klitschko. Both brothers were part of the Maidan protests but Vitali is the politician and the one pictured with Yulia. Both of them had great ring careers and it looks like Wladimir will continue his boxing title defense with a bout in April.
16 posted on 03/10/2014 1:07:38 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 ( ...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Moose Burger

Yeah, and Hitler and Himmler effectively murdered people. Putin jails dissenters, shoots and kills journalists, imprisons people to prevent opposition. He’s invaded Georgia and now the Ukraine. And you write in your run on sentence: ‘the best course of action is “yes, he successfully does that and that and that” So what’s the point?


17 posted on 03/10/2014 1:12:36 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free the USA.)
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To: elhombrelibre

The point is, understand your enemy. It’s not merely a matter of labeling people as “near machines that spend the whole day planning evil”. That will not work.


18 posted on 03/10/2014 1:18:14 PM PDT by Moose Burger
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To: Moose Burger

You mean like understanding a mugger or a rapist?


19 posted on 03/10/2014 1:20:47 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free the USA.)
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To: Kaslin
If we had a real man in the white house then Putin wouldn't be as cocky.

20 posted on 03/10/2014 1:29:51 PM PDT by Bobalu (Happiness is a fast ISR)
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To: Bobalu

I would love to have a real man in the White House but Bush was not it. He was as much out of his league dealing with Putin as Obama is. I still think this is his dumbest quote and the man was famous for his dumb quotes:

Q: As president you met and dealt with many foreign leader...you write, “I’ve always been able to read people.” Vladimir Putin, when you first met him you said you got a sense of his soul...

Bush: I looked in his eyes and saw his soul.

Sorry to tell you thus Dubya, but when you look into the eyes of a KGB agent you see whatever the KGB agent wants you to see.


21 posted on 03/10/2014 1:43:27 PM PDT by BurningOak (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2830849/reply?c=1)
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To: BurningOak
OK,I admit we have had better (see below)

22 posted on 03/10/2014 2:03:27 PM PDT by Bobalu (Happiness is a fast ISR)
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To: Kaslin

“Troops Install Minefields, Border Markers in Crimea”

the only purpose for this is to mislead people into thinking the the Crimea is the end, rather than the start


23 posted on 03/10/2014 2:04:38 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Josey Wales asks: How is it with stains ?)
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To: Kaslin; Travis McGee

I wonder if the reconquista will be as swift?


24 posted on 03/10/2014 2:13:58 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Kaslin
Troops Install Minefields, Border Markers in Crimea

How will food get to Crimea? who will pay their pensions?

25 posted on 03/10/2014 2:37:07 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Kaslin

Last year in a poll only 23% of Crimeans wanted to be part of Russia.


26 posted on 03/10/2014 2:40:37 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Bobalu

I would trust the horse as a leader before I would trust Obama.


27 posted on 03/10/2014 2:49:28 PM PDT by Kent1957
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To: Bobalu

Great pic. The horse seems to be smiling.


28 posted on 03/10/2014 2:55:10 PM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: Mike Darancette

What changed it was the Maidan which brought to power a regime in Kiev dominated by Ukrainian nationalists.

Russian-speakers followed suit with their own revolution in Crimea and turned the Party Of Regions government out of office.

And Ukraine had been very effective at keeping a lid on pro-Russian separatist sentiment. Now that’s gone and Crimea is going its own way, having taken over the central ministries in the republic and forming its own army and security service with Russian help.

I don’t see how that situation gets reversed. They are already part of Russia in all but name and the referendum will merely ratify Moscow’s bloodless takeover there.


29 posted on 03/10/2014 3:14:15 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Kaslin

These ARE Russian troops. Nothing “pro” about it. Spetsnaz and other commando-type units. Previously known in the Ukraine as SS troops.

Putin taught Obama how to be a “real red”, not a marxist-in-progress like the Messiah is.

I think, however, that a minefiled around NYCity, San Francisco, Chicago, Oakland and parts of Baltimore, Philadelphia, Cleveland, Detriot, and Boston, would be in order. Keeping the reds in, and making the rest of America safe for patriots.

We have not military leadership any more. Dempsey is the “Chump of Staff”, not “Chief of Staff”. The Secy of the Navy Mabus is only fit to command a rubber ducky in a bathtub, nothing more.

The Air Force Academy. A joke. So PCed that students have to cheat for thrills.

Marines. Losing ground every day to PC and pansy-ification.

Army; Ruined by Rules of Engagement. Lost too many good soldiers and the leadership never stood up to Obama and Dempsey and others and told them to go to hell.

IRS: the New Gestapo in America. What they are doing to D’Nish DeSouza is horrible and the judge who restricted his movements (even though they seized his passport), should be tarred and feathered and sent to jail for a couple years.

DOJ; Department of Jokesters and Jerks. While a few units have retained some integrity, others have not. The Civil Rights Division is now known as the “Good Germans Division”, but instead of practicing anti-Semitism, they are practicing “anti-conservatism” much like the Nuremberg Laws demanded.

Congress is gutless, ball-less and full of communists, progressives, socialists, crooks and political whores.

The Democrat Party is one big political whorehouse with Madame Pelosi the “dominatrix” in charge. Where do you think the term “House Whip” came from? Probably Harry Reid’s “Mustang Ranch” tool collection.

Right now I’ve got another bout of stomach virus, but I’m more sick at the state of disgrace that America is in. Reds and crooks as leaders; an emasculated/eunuch military leadership; a Congress that you could buy for a few dollars, elected by no-education voters and marxist-liberals; and a media that is best at bending over and taking it up the butt from their liberal commissars.

What is going on in the Crimea and America’s lack of response, led by the Coward in Chief Obama (who doubles as the “Marxist in Chief” in his other personna), the Bay Hap River Coward John F*cking Kerry, the mental midget Secy of Defense Hagel, the Eva Braun wannabe Hillary Clinton, the Evil Witch of the West Michele, and fools like Schumer, Reid, Durbin,Boxer, Feinstein, Gillibrand, McCaskill, and the always EVIL Kathleen Sebelius, Tom SackofShit (Interior), Gina McCarthyism of the EPA, and Eric “I Hate White People” Holder at the Dept. of Injustice.

I thought that my virus made me sick, but that is nothing compared to what the American stupids did in Nov. 2008 and Nov. 2013. The fools and traitors from within are much more of a clear and present danger to a free America than is Putin and all of his stormtroopers, Red China with its expanding Navy and Air Force, and Islamic jihadists with a copy of the Koran up their asses.

I can take medicine for my stomach illness but what can I take for well ails America?

The only thing I can think of now to save this country is a national electoral ENEMA in November, one that cleans out the leftist crap and racist fools who run (and ruin) America today.

Every vote counts so be there in November.


30 posted on 03/10/2014 3:16:01 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: GeronL

It will be if Mexico has a military as strong as Russia’s, and America’s is as weak as Ukraine.


31 posted on 03/10/2014 3:27:24 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

if our political will is weak enough


32 posted on 03/10/2014 3:32:49 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Kaslin

Troops Install Minefields, Border Markers in Crimea


Fundamental transformation is here.


33 posted on 03/10/2014 3:44:23 PM PDT by OwenKellogg (Fundamental transformation leads to Crimea.)
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To: elhombrelibre

If you don’t learn the tactics of muggers and rapists, you’re a fool to venture out onto the streets of most cities.


34 posted on 03/10/2014 3:55:39 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: lodi90
Like the USA hasn't poked its noses into other countries matters with no reason???? We are hypocrites
35 posted on 03/10/2014 5:03:20 PM PDT by Moleman
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To: Bobalu

That is much better.


36 posted on 03/10/2014 5:19:17 PM PDT by BurningOak (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2830849/reply?c=1)
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To: Moleman
Like the USA hasn't poked its noses into other countries matters with no reason???? We are hypocrites

Nobody here is defending Clinton's Serbia and Obama's Egypt and Syria.

Now why don't you pick another US example and compare it to what Putin Is doing in Ukraine.

37 posted on 03/10/2014 6:10:06 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: lodi90

I am cheer leading Putin. Not afraid to admit it. Know why? Because he is setting an example for the left everywhere. Obama spent 5 years as our nations leader being lawless. Venezuela also.

If Republicans had any brains, they would tie this to Democrat left wing ideology and say this is what is coming to America. I would tie it to the MSM, George Soros, Jimmy Carter, everyone..

Go Putin.


38 posted on 03/10/2014 6:13:06 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Insurgent Conservative)
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To: Mike Darancette

“How will food get to Crimea? who will pay their pensions?”

that’s why it will not stop with Crimea.

I doubt that KGB Putin has overlooked the fact that Crimea is vulnerable to the same kind of utilities cutoff that he has been using for years against Ukraine, E. europe etc

which suggests to me that he will go for a larger part of the Ukraine that is not vulnerable to a food blockade or a utility shutdown.


39 posted on 03/10/2014 6:13:18 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Josey Wales asks: How is it with stains ?)
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To: GeronL

Under a ‘Rat president, no low is low enough.


40 posted on 03/10/2014 6:33:40 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: lodi90

Putin also has a football.


41 posted on 03/10/2014 7:19:41 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: EQAndyBuzz
"Russian military mined fields are drilled holes for boundary pillars" around Crimea according to the village Council at Chonhar where this is happening. Chonhar is on the border of Crimea and Ukraine....Russia's digging in to Defend the Crimera Borders....presence limited to Chonhar Only...no moves further inland.

I think Russia has been very restrained and it's about time western media started reporting the whole situation and not just the bits they like. As we all know this is happening right on Russia's border not America...

BTW..few know that Ukraine must allow 'American Misseles on Ukraine soil according to the conditions of them joining with the Eu/Nato agreement.....How would we respond if Putin put his missles in Canada or Mexico?


42 posted on 03/10/2014 8:27:12 PM PDT by caww
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To: Kaslin

I visited Kiev and Crimea a few years ago. The two places are a world apart. Kiev is Ukrainian; Crimea is owned by Russians, residents are mostly Russian, and the Russian military is predominant. It’s kind of like Ukraine’s Puerto Rico - a unique culture. Some of the population is re-populated ethnic Tajiks who Stalin tried to exterminate or Deport.

Crimea has always been Russia’s resort country on the Black Sea, rich Russians have property there (summer palace of the Czar in Yalta is where the Yalta accords were signed).

The Russian fleet is indeed strategic at Sevastopol. I understand why Putin did this. It was a smart move on his part, given the hostility vs Russia in Kiev.

However, it is definitely a hegemony move, to take the territory in violation of sovereign power and treaties. Identical to Putin’s land grab in Georgia.


43 posted on 03/10/2014 8:32:41 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: Reverend Wright
which suggests to me that he will go for a larger part of the Ukraine that is not vulnerable to a food blockade or a utility shutdown.

The other Oblasts of Ukraine may not be as submissive. The area adjacent to Crimea which blocks the land rout is majority ethnic Ukrainian.

44 posted on 03/10/2014 8:40:57 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Kaslin
As I understand it Ukraine's Government had not been paying on their debt nor paying Gazprom for Gas for several months before these protests.....they had already warned Ukraine's Gov. they would not continue to “carry them” before this revolt against the Ukraine Gov....No company is going to carry a country's gas debt indefinitely.....If Gazprom doesn't receive the money from Ukraine on time...then they are undercutting their own investment programs as with any company.

Further a “discount” was given in this agreement...only if they did pay on the debt they owed. Ukraine blew it off. So they really have nothing to grip about.

45 posted on 03/10/2014 8:47:45 PM PDT by caww
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To: FlyingEagle

If Ukraines’s un-elected government wants to join Nato/EU contrary to the West’s previous agreement that no missiles would ever be stationed in Ukraine against Russia, well Russia certainly isn’t going to stand by and just watch. We wouldn’t either if this was happening on our border.

Putin stated clearly he would not fight a war with Ukrainian’s....that does not mean he wouldn’t fight Nato troops if they stick their noses in this....

I believe this is why the EU/Nato/US are going at breakneck speed to get all the “paperwork” completed, and nations to acknowledge this New Gov. This would then allow troops in Ukraine.

If Obama wants to start another war because he things he has the right to place missiles in Ukraine,( which the Agreement with Eu/Nato states as a condition for receiving funds and admission to Nato)...Putin will definitely give him this war I think...but hopefully better minds will prevail in this whole situation. This remains to be seen.


46 posted on 03/10/2014 9:03:36 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Ukraine impressed me as Russia with no rules. Dangerous place.


47 posted on 03/10/2014 9:07:11 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: Justa

I wonder if the Russian troops securing that border take contract work in other countries. Seems we could use them in AZ, TX and CA.


48 posted on 03/11/2014 6:39:17 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Travis McGee; tx_eggman
America’s is as weak as Ukraine.

Ukraine has an unarmed populace. At least here in most states, that is not the case.
49 posted on 03/11/2014 6:40:54 AM PDT by SpinnerWebb (IN-SAPORIBVS-SICVT-PVLLVM)
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To: Kaslin

Bed news: Russia took Crimea by force.

Good news: Minefields imply no more taking will occur in that region.


50 posted on 03/11/2014 6:57:48 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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