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IDF Shoots Rock Thrower Dead
inn ^ | 3/10/14 | Gil Ronen and Ari Soffer

Posted on 03/10/2014 12:31:56 PM PDT by Nachum

An IDF force lying in ambush shot dead an Arab terrorist who was preparing to throw rocks at Israeli cars traveling on Road 60, north of Jerusalem. The incident took place near Givat Asaf, in the Binyamin region, on Monday evening.

The ambush was placed following an uptick in the number of similar attacks as of late. It is too early to say whether it signals a change in IDF policy toward rock throwers, but the military action appears to be a departure from the policy of the last few years, which has been marked by extreme hesitance to use deadly force against rock and firebomb throwers.

"Central Command and the Judea and Samaria theater have turned into a Russian roulette in the last few months, in which the lives, health and dignity of soldier and civilians hang in the balance, while Palestinian marauders enjoy near complete immunity in what an only be described as operational recklessness,” wrote a political activist and reservist combat soldier in November.

Tadmor explained that a Jewish man was gravely injured by Arabs in the course of a protest by residents of Talmon and Neria, despite the presence of four armed soldiers. The soldiers' presence does not guarantee the safety of civilians, he said, "especially when they are afraid to exit their rock-proofed vehicle, for fear that they will have to open fire and will face the real threat: the possibility of being put on trial."

(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: idf; rock; shoots; thrower

1 posted on 03/10/2014 12:31:57 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

i rock thrown at a moving car is like a bullet hitting it

shoot them


2 posted on 03/10/2014 12:33:58 PM PDT by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: Nachum
Textbook deterrence.
3 posted on 03/10/2014 12:34:25 PM PDT by AU72
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To: Nachum
DHS Tells Border Agents to Flee From Illegals Throwing Rocks at Them
4 posted on 03/10/2014 12:36:04 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Mr. K

The IDF used to just shoot them in the hip or groin, using a suppressed 1022 platform. I always thought it would be better to aim about two to two and a half feet higher.


5 posted on 03/10/2014 12:36:59 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: DannyTN

I see what you did there...

It’s like one of those “compare and contrast” questions on the SATs, right?


6 posted on 03/10/2014 12:38:18 PM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: Nachum
"One does not simply bring a rock to a gunfight."


7 posted on 03/10/2014 12:38:55 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Truth sounds like hate...to those who hate truth.)
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To: AU72

At least, it’s an effective means of reducing recividism.


8 posted on 03/10/2014 12:39:57 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: AU72

As a message, I would have went with chopping off the throwing hand. Signifies that a crime was committed and punishment meted out.


9 posted on 03/10/2014 12:40:51 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Insurgent Conservative)
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To: Nachum

But he was an aspiring rapper, going back to school, good to his kids.


10 posted on 03/10/2014 12:41:07 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Nachum

I guess their government doesn’t order them to run away like the Obama government demands of our Border Patrol.


11 posted on 03/10/2014 12:43:36 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Albert Einstein: The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: Mr. K
The Israelis are far too gentle.

Had my Native American ancestors been in charge, they not only would have shot the perp, but displayed his scalp from a roadside effigy pole as a warning to other would-be terrorists.

12 posted on 03/10/2014 12:44:23 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman

True. You cannot act civilly with the uncivilized. Your civil manner will be seen as an act of weakness.


13 posted on 03/10/2014 12:48:28 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Nachum

Over here they shoot kids with Nintendo controllers dead so I wouldn’t complain about the rock throwers.


14 posted on 03/10/2014 12:50:16 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: AppyPappy

...taught his son how to skip rocks down at the mirage...


15 posted on 03/10/2014 12:50:28 PM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: Nachum

Good. One less nut job gone. severeal more million to deal with. Every little bit helps.


16 posted on 03/10/2014 12:50:35 PM PDT by ZULU (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Nachum

Rock, Paper, .223.

I like the new game better.


17 posted on 03/10/2014 12:53:42 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Mohammed was a pedophile and Islam is a Totalitarian Death Cult.)
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To: Vigilanteman
In the kingdom of Romanian in days of old, there was the principality of Wallachia with a fountain in the center of its capital city, Sighișoara. By the fountain was a silver ladle available to thirsty travelers, to use to refresh themselves. No one stole the ladle, no one ever thought of stealing it. The name of the local prince was Vlad. Vlad III, who rejoiced in the epithet, "The Impaler".
18 posted on 03/10/2014 12:54:35 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (In the long run, we are all dead.)
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To: MHGinTN

The IDF used to just shoot them in the hip or groin,
= = = = = = = = = = = =
Really not a solution.
Just ‘wingin’ them makes them a cripple(who—today— you would have to fix or support) or at least run with a limp the next time (and yes, there will be a next time) they throw rocks or worse.

Kill them, leave them where they lie and let the rest of the people know why they are lying there dead or severely wounded.

Absolutely NO compassion on my part.

And no, as a kid I didn’t throw rocks at trains or cars or horses as a ‘prank’.


19 posted on 03/10/2014 12:55:06 PM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 --"I would agree with you BUT that would make both of us wrong".)
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To: Nachum
Excerpt from:

Niven's Laws
(from Known Space)

1. a.Never throw $h!t at an armed man.
1. b.Never stand next to someone who is throwing $h!t at an armed man.

Even SciFi Nerds know this!
20 posted on 03/10/2014 12:57:23 PM PDT by Rebel_Ace (Tags?!? Tags?!? We don' neeeed no stinkin' Tags!)
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To: Mr. K

you can kill the driver, and/or cause lethal accidents and jam up roadways.


21 posted on 03/10/2014 12:59:49 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Nachum

Rocks are a deadly weapon, even if you’re not going 90 kph. Shoot the terrorists, and they will learn not to attack innocent people. Or even if they don’t learn, it won’t matter if the sniper’s aim is good. Good riddance.


22 posted on 03/10/2014 1:00:33 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

yep. they won’t understand civility. it’s the dont cast pearls before swine situation as it relates to civilized behavior. don’t waste it on people who won’t appreciate it.


23 posted on 03/10/2014 1:01:49 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: DannyTN

Thanks, I was going to search for that article. The CBP has to flee from illegals throwing rocks, but our police can shoot to kill for just about any reason.


24 posted on 03/10/2014 1:03:35 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Nachum

Definitely not a David v. Goliath scenario.


25 posted on 03/10/2014 1:07:59 PM PDT by Radix ("..Democrats are holding a meeting today to decide whether to overturn the results of the election.")
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To: Blood of Tyrants
You cannot act civilly with the uncivilized. Your civil manner will be seen as an act of weakness.

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Agreed.

26 posted on 03/10/2014 1:12:24 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Nachum

Stupid moron needed to remember not to bring rocks to a gun fight.


27 posted on 03/10/2014 1:21:44 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: Uncle Miltie
Rock, Paper, .223.

Actually I think it is Rock, Paper, 5.56 mm

28 posted on 03/10/2014 2:02:37 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: Nachum

Ok.


29 posted on 03/10/2014 2:04:52 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2014 and the Crusades 2014?)
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To: Mr. K

Actually, those rocks aren’t thrown by hand the way most people think. instead, they’re hurled with nearly three foot long slings that the users swirl about their heads before releasing the rocks. That gives the average projectile an initial velocity a bit north of 100 m.p.h.,enabling it to do a lot of damage to its target. Just Remember David and Goliath. David had a very powerful weapon and used it superbly.


30 posted on 03/10/2014 2:13:15 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: Nachum
This is the reason why those rock throwers should be shot.

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31 posted on 03/10/2014 2:18:47 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Intereferes With Justice.)
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To: Nachum

Bullets, Rock, scissor....

Pretty sure how I’d play ....


32 posted on 03/10/2014 2:39:48 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Nachum

After reading stories about Pally thugs gladly slaughtering Israeli women and children by shooting or stabbing them, I have little sympathy for these worthless oxygen thieves.


33 posted on 03/10/2014 2:53:15 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: VRWCmember

I knew someone would come along and provide the correct caliber. :-)


34 posted on 03/10/2014 3:31:28 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Mohammed was a pedophile and Islam is a Totalitarian Death Cult.)
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To: Vigilanteman

You mean older Americans? They’re not native.

That would be a good deterrent, however, unless you’re used to skinning things, it might take a bit to get used to for some folks heh.


35 posted on 03/10/2014 3:40:54 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I think Vlad just liked to impale moslems, correct me if I’m wrong.


36 posted on 03/10/2014 3:41:54 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Bulwyf

That wasn’t all he did.

The story goes that a couple of muzzies came to Vlad’s castle to discuss peace terms. When brought to his presence, they refused to remove their head coverings. So Vlad acknowledged that....and had his men nail the head coverings to the men’s heads with a spike.

So much for the peace talks. :)


37 posted on 03/10/2014 3:47:56 PM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: Nachum

IDF shoots rock thrower dead

Cool


38 posted on 03/10/2014 3:48:51 PM PDT by Steel Shoe
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To: hoagy62

It would seem then that Vlad knew how to handle moslems.

I’m not saying we should follow his ways, but we should have mass deportations.


39 posted on 03/10/2014 3:50:58 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Nachum

GOOD! Bring them over here to work the southern border.


40 posted on 03/10/2014 5:34:04 PM PDT by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: Bulwyf
The famous story was that when the Ottoman Empire was attempting to invade Romania, Vlad attacked the advance guard, killing them to a man and lining the road to Sighișoara with their heads on a stake. For some reason, this demoralized the main body of the Ottoman and the invasion failed, almost before it began.
41 posted on 03/11/2014 4:27:14 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (In the long run, we are all dead.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I can see how some would consider that demoralizing. I’m dumb enough, I would see it as a challenge :P


42 posted on 03/11/2014 4:50:37 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Bulwyf

You might be going in alone against a couple hundred thousand pissed off Romanians. Good luck.


43 posted on 03/11/2014 10:19:18 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (In the long run, we are all dead.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

That’s no different than any other battle Canadians have fought heh.

We need to deport these moslems before they overrun the west.


44 posted on 03/11/2014 11:06:51 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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