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Conn. shooter's dad: 'You can't get any more evil'
Yahoo News/ AP ^ | March 10th, 2014 | Staff

Posted on 03/10/2014 2:43:26 PM PDT by Third Person

NEW YORK (AP) — In his most extensive comments about the 2012 Connecticut school massacre, the father of gunman Adam Lanza describes his struggle to comprehend what his son did — an act that "couldn't get any more evil" — and how he now wishes that his son had never been born.

Peter Lanza also told The New Yorker magazine in a series of interviews last fall that he believes Adam would have killed him, too, if he had the chance. And he often contemplates what he could have done differently in his relationship with Adam, although he believes the killings couldn't have been predicted.

"Any variation on what I did and how my relationship was had to be good, because no outcome could be worse," Peter Lanza told the magazine in an article dated March 17. "You can't get any more evil. ... How much do I beat up on myself about the fact that he's my son? A lot."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: connecticut; crime; lanza
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1 posted on 03/10/2014 2:43:26 PM PDT by Third Person
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To: Third Person

Perhaps not divorcing Adam’s mom would have helped.


2 posted on 03/10/2014 2:47:17 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude

Why do you assume he divorced her and not the other way around?


3 posted on 03/10/2014 2:49:25 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Third Person

I’m not sure about the “you could have been a better parent argument”. Some people are just born evil.


4 posted on 03/10/2014 2:50:48 PM PDT by albie
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To: Boogieman
Why do you assume he divorced her and not the other way around?

Perhaps, but it takes two to tango.

5 posted on 03/10/2014 2:51:13 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Third Person

Evil or anti-depressant medication?

The State of Connecticut still won’t release what kind of anti-depressants he was on.

Attorney General: “Identifying antidepressants Lanza was taking could “cause a lot of people to stop taking their medications”

http://www.dailypaul.com/300273/attorney-general-identifying-antidepressants-lanza-was-taking-could-cause-a-lot-of-people-to-stop-taking-their-medication


6 posted on 03/10/2014 2:52:07 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Free goodies for all -- Freedom for none.)
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To: Third Person; fwdude

I can’t imagine how horrible it must be to be the parent of a mass murderer.

As for the divorce, mother had apparently decided they were just picking on her baby and even though she was afraid of him, she absolutely refused outside help and that was one of the things that led to the divorce (according to press reports at the time). I think he’s being very gentlemanly in not mentioning this.

Mothers can do this. They feel guilty for having a child with problems and then go into denial and also become extremely defensive, shutting out not only teachers and professionals, but even their husbands.


7 posted on 03/10/2014 2:52:16 PM PDT by livius
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To: fwdude

True, but at the present time it only takes one to divorce.

Or, as my dad used to put it: Two people have to work at it to make a marriage work. It only takes one person towreck it.


8 posted on 03/10/2014 2:53:17 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: livius

IIRC, she was in the process of trying to have him committed when he exploded. She had jumped through several hoops and had more hoops to go to get him placed in a hospital without his consent. He murdered her first.


9 posted on 03/10/2014 2:56:11 PM PDT by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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To: Third Person

CT, the evil gun grabber state.


10 posted on 03/10/2014 3:00:49 PM PDT by Third Person
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To: albie
I'm not into judgement. I can't, however, embrace this father's comments. Whatever he feels in his heart, the proper response would have been to say that you felt you must have failed at some crucial point along the way, and that you will never forgive yourself for not seeing this outcome long before, and to express your lifelong sorrow. Publicly stating that you wish your child had never been born is, to me, too self-serving, and too easy.
11 posted on 03/10/2014 3:03:54 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: albie
We are all born evil.

One of the best life observations St. Augustine made in his Confessions was that a newborn baby, if he had the strength of a man, would maim or kill anyone who took away his food or denied him anything he wanted.

In the beginning, we all have that destructive rage in us.

Nurture may not make you much smarter, or taller, or better looking, but it does make the difference between being a moral person or not.

The issue here heavily involves Lanza's illness. Nurture cannot heal schizophrenia.

12 posted on 03/10/2014 3:05:40 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Third Person

Yep. “interview last fall”?? Media release is timed to coincide with the recent upheaval over CT’s letter to ‘new felon’ gun owners. Just a coincidence.


13 posted on 03/10/2014 3:06:33 PM PDT by Obama_Is_A_Feminist
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To: fwdude

None of us has any idea of the stresses having a child like this puts on a marriage. If one hasn’t walked a mile in Mr/Mrs Lanza’s shoes maybe one had best not opine.


14 posted on 03/10/2014 3:07:49 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Third Person

Poor man. I can’t even imagine being able to go on after what he has experienced. The guilt must be crushing.


15 posted on 03/10/2014 3:07:52 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: livius

You are correct. As my mother used to say: “Where oh where would you find a mother who would trade her boobie for another.” She was referring to the mother of my now dead brother-in-law. He could have easily been a variation of Adam Lanza, yet his mother was in absolute denial about how defective he was. The world is much better off without him.

Given the circumstances, that motherhood bond is something that is very hard for me to understand.


16 posted on 03/10/2014 3:07:56 PM PDT by VMI70
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To: originalbuckeye

I think that his mother had finally acknowledged the problem - although way too late.

But she had been so defensive earlier that she had pulled him out of school when one of the teachers suggested that he be evaluated for schizophrenia and that he needed more than just Aspergers therapy, which I believe is mainly language and socialization oriented.

I worked with parents like this in another lifetime, so to speak, and it’s very hard for them.


17 posted on 03/10/2014 3:07:59 PM PDT by livius
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To: Third Person

I have a brother who is divorced and his son has a very mild form of Asperger syndrome. Fortunately he spends lots of quality time with him and his ex-wife isn’t a vindictive beech or restricts visits. The boy is doing very well and normal happy to report. My brother is a good dad so kudos to him.


18 posted on 03/10/2014 3:09:32 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: VMI70

I like to think I’d be more objective if I had had a child with a serious psychological problem, especially one that was so obvious. But I’ve met parents who simply won’t admit it.

On the other hand, I’ve met parents who have spent their best years unsuccessfully trying to get their psychotic adolescents into residential care appropriate for their problem, so it’s hard to say that she could have managed to do so even if she had wanted to. And this is true even though she and his father had the money to help him; you simply can’t get kids like this the kind of serious (and usually residential) care they need.

Our mental health system is a disaster.


19 posted on 03/10/2014 3:11:57 PM PDT by livius
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To: EDINVA
None of us has any idea of the stresses having a child like this puts on a marriage. If one hasn’t walked a mile in Mr/Mrs Lanza’s shoes maybe one had best not opine.

Quoted for truth!!

20 posted on 03/10/2014 3:15:29 PM PDT by awelliott (What one generation tolerates, the next embraces....)
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To: fwdude

Not in the world of “no contest” divorce it doesn’t.


21 posted on 03/10/2014 3:15:35 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: fwdude

Didn’t the wife dump the father?

Filed BS to kick him out of the house?


22 posted on 03/10/2014 3:21:25 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: EDINVA

“If one hasn’t walked a mile in Mr/Mrs Lanza’s shoes maybe one had best not opine.”

No, no no.

On FreeRepublic, we grab the stones from Jesus and throw them. Our Pharasees are sinless and have never made a bad choice.


23 posted on 03/10/2014 3:25:19 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: wideawake

“Nurture cannot heal schizophrenia.”

Well, we don’t know all the causes of schizophrenia. So it could be that nurture can contribute to it, or alleviate it.


24 posted on 03/10/2014 3:30:22 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Third Person

Modern culture is producing monsters and it’s only going to get worse.


25 posted on 03/10/2014 3:30:46 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Third Person
Here is a simple solution: Anyone who looks like this should be immediately put away. How can anyone who sees this mug not think that something is seriously wrong with this "child"? We euthanize rabid dogs, after all.
26 posted on 03/10/2014 3:37:09 PM PDT by sagar
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To: sagar
How can anyone who sees this mug not think that something is seriously wrong with this "child"? We euthanize rabid dogs, after all.

Did he look like that all the time? How do you know that wasn't some sort of pose and they are using that pic to represent him?

27 posted on 03/10/2014 3:44:27 PM PDT by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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To: fwdude
Perhaps not divorcing Adam’s mom would have helped.

Fail! It's not a perfect world dude.......

As a side note, my parents divorced in 1955 and I've yet to kill anyone........

28 posted on 03/10/2014 3:50:50 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Was Occam's razor made by Gillette?)
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To: Third Person; All

I hope someone of you will start a thread on this! (coudln’t find anything in FR search)

pick a link

http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=utf-8&fr=slv8-msgr&p=Conn.%20police%20refuse%20to%20enforce%20new%20gun%20laws&type=


29 posted on 03/10/2014 3:51:33 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: fwdude
Perhaps, but it takes two to tango.

You can't tango without music.....

30 posted on 03/10/2014 3:51:56 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Was Occam's razor made by Gillette?)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
I'm not into judgement. I can't, however, embrace this father's comments. Whatever he feels in his heart, the proper response would have been to say that you felt you must have failed at some crucial point along the way, and that you will never forgive yourself for not seeing this outcome long before, and to express your lifelong sorrow. Publicly stating that you wish your child had never been born is, to me, too self-serving, and too easy.

i agree... and maybe that he is able to have that point of view has something to do with his son's outcome... not that it is fully responsible, but that it contributed...

31 posted on 03/10/2014 3:52:22 PM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: Hot Tabasco
You can't tango without music.....

i do not concur... :)

32 posted on 03/10/2014 3:53:18 PM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: TheThirdRuffian
we grab the stones from Jesus and throw them. Our Pharasees are sinless and have never made a bad choice.

Nicely stated, such is the nature of many of FR's self professed christians..........

33 posted on 03/10/2014 3:56:09 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Was Occam's razor made by Gillette?)
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To: sagar
How can anyone who sees this mug not think that something is seriously wrong with this "child"?

really? look through any high school yearbook or middle school yearbook, and you will find many strange, dorky, nerdy, silly pics of adolescent boys and girls... pics that make us cringe when we look back on that awkward stage between youth and adult...

34 posted on 03/10/2014 3:57:36 PM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: raybbr

Aaw poor child was misrepresented by that photo. You talk like those defending St. Trayvon.


35 posted on 03/10/2014 3:58:29 PM PDT by sagar
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To: fwdude

Yes, it does. And it doesn’t appear that he was that involved in his son’s life after the divorce, as the whole interview is a bunch of speculation. I still find it odd that people keep quoting 26 as the number of people murdered and no one mentions the mom at all in their tally.


36 posted on 03/10/2014 4:00:29 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: sagar
Aaw poor child was misrepresented by that photo. You talk like those defending St. Trayvon.

You come across as an ass. Do you really think you can divine persons mental state from one picture. As in: "How can anyone who sees this mug not think that something is seriously wrong with this "child"?"

Again, how do you know that wasn't a posed shot?

BTW, I am not defending Lanza but to make a statement like you made is the height of lunacy.

37 posted on 03/10/2014 4:02:23 PM PDT by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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To: raybbr; sagar

I’d be interested in seeing Sagar’s DMV photo.

Wonder if it would pass his own test.


38 posted on 03/10/2014 4:07:05 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: latina4dubya
i do not concur... :)

Maybe you can but I can't......as a side note, I can't salsa either even tho I took lessons..... :)

39 posted on 03/10/2014 4:09:31 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Was Occam's razor made by Gillette?)
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To: fwdude

So any child that has divorced parents will go out and murder kids? C’mon. Don’t make excuses. The kid was a sick monster.


40 posted on 03/10/2014 4:13:58 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: latina4dubya

Exactly. I guess he wants to wipe out half of the teenagers going thru puberty right now in the world.


41 posted on 03/10/2014 4:16:49 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
Was he still on his meds or had he stopped? (Just stopping cold turkey is NOT recommended for a bunch of antidepressants. Either way, knowing what meds he was on (or just off of) might help prevent another malicious nutcase going postal.

Keep in mind, from Harris and Klebold at Columbine, to many of the other mass shooters, some sort of medication was involved. Whether that is the cause or just an indicator of problems severe enough that they were medicated is open to interpretation.

42 posted on 03/10/2014 4:27:09 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: raybbr

“Do you really think you can divine persons mental state from one picture.”

Indeed. A lot of clues are present that trained professionals can discern.

Tell me, why would you ignore crazy psycho look? Get checked out.

If a dog starts foaming, would you not consult the vet for rabies?


43 posted on 03/10/2014 4:27:35 PM PDT by sagar
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To: raybbr
Here's another photo of the same kid. Yeah, I would cross the street if I saw somebody like that walking towards me. I'd give him a wide berth.


44 posted on 03/10/2014 4:31:40 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

“Attorney General: “Identifying antidepressants Lanza was taking could “cause a lot of people to stop taking their medications””

All Big Pharma patent ‘antidepressants’ are depressing and create sometimes evil repercussions in the patient. These are mind-altering drugs that should never be allowed. For example, the children’s drug Ritalin has a more potent effect on the brain than cocaine. A lot of people could be saved from the clutches of psychiatrists and the evils of patent ‘antidepressants’ if they would stop taking their medications.


45 posted on 03/10/2014 4:32:12 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: fwdude

“Perhaps, but it takes two to tango”

But only one to say hasta la vista


46 posted on 03/10/2014 4:33:03 PM PDT by Cyman (We have to pass it to see what's in it= definition of stool sample)
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47 posted on 03/10/2014 4:35:58 PM PDT by al baby (Hi MomÂ… I was refereeing to Obama)
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To: EDINVA

My opinion (at least I hope it was conveyed as such) was prefaced by “perhaps.”

Regardless, Adam grew up in a broken home. That much is apparent.


48 posted on 03/10/2014 4:39:02 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian
Didn’t the wife dump the father? Filed BS to kick him out of the house?

I honestly don't know; the background of the family didn't seem to be of concern to the media - at least I didn't hear about it other than the parents were separated/divorced.

49 posted on 03/10/2014 4:40:33 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
So any child that has divorced parents will go out and murder kids?

I never so much as implied that, and you know it.

But an already unstable child can be pushed over the edge by a broken home, and this home was undeniably broken.

50 posted on 03/10/2014 4:42:27 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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