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National GOP turns on Florida candidate
Politico ^ | March 7, 2014 | ALEX ISENSTADT

Posted on 03/10/2014 3:41:37 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

Their frustration had been mounting for weeks. But by late January national Republicans had had it with David Jolly, their candidate in Tuesday’s nationally watched Florida congressional special election.

The candidate had just told the state’s top political reporter that he disagreed with an ad the party was airing against his Democratic opponent — a spot paid for with the nearly $500,000 the GOP had already spent on Jolly’s behalf.

“Are you f—-ing kidding me?” a senior National Republican Congressional Committee official told a Jolly staffer over the phone, according to two sources familiar with the conversation. Would the Jolly campaign prefer that the NRCC stop spending money in the race altogether? the official asked.

Over the past week, a half-dozen Washington Republicans have described Jolly’s campaign against Democrat Alex Sink as a Keystone Cops operation, marked by inept fundraising, top advisers stationed hundreds of miles away from the district in the state capital and the poor optics of a just-divorced, 41-year-old candidate accompanied on the campaign trail by a girlfriend 14 years his junior. The sources would speak only on condition of anonymity.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: alexsink; davidjolly; florida

1 posted on 03/10/2014 3:41:37 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: Clintonfatigued

Yes, anonymous insider source. Always believe that.


2 posted on 03/10/2014 3:44:32 PM PDT by Hildy (Falling down is how you grow. Staying down is how you die.)
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To: JulieRNR21; Joe Brower; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; GOPsterinMA; randita; Sun; ...

Of all the people Republicans could have chosen, they had to choose a cradle-robbing D.C. lobbyist with no local roots and a messy divorce. No wonder we’re called The Stupid Party. What’s astonishing is that we could still win this thing.


3 posted on 03/10/2014 3:46:14 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (The War on Drugs is Big Government statism)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Makes perfect sense once you accept the fact that the GOP is the gateway drug to get people liberalized.

Get them to a state of hopelessness and there you go.


4 posted on 03/10/2014 3:48:31 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Clintonfatigued

I know this is Politico talking, but it sure doesn’t sound good.


5 posted on 03/10/2014 3:52:50 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Clintonfatigued
His girlfriend is 27. She is a full-blown adult, not some teeny-bopper.

Sheesh, no wonder why the GOPe continues to lose. Every candidate has to be as pure as the falling rain.

6 posted on 03/10/2014 3:56:15 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (15 years of FReeping! Congratulations EEE!!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

“Of all the people Republicans could have chosen, they had to choose a cradle-robbing D.C. lobbyist with no local roots and a messy divorce. No wonder we’re called The Stupid Party”

from the article

“After longtime GOP Rep. Bill Young died in October, House Speaker John Boehner called Rick Baker, a popular former mayor of St. Petersburg, and pressed him to run for the vacant seat. The Baker courtship didn’t stop there: Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush also pushed the former mayor to run, according to two sources. (Bush has since gotten behind Jolly, appearing in TV ads calling him “the best candidate to go to Congress.”)

After mulling it over for a few days, Baker turned them down. By that time, Jolly’s name had emerged as a possible candidate. But national Republicans went after two other possibilities — former Clearwater Mayor Frank Hibbard and Pinellas County Sheriff Bob Gualtieri — both of whom also declined. That left Jolly to face off against state Rep. Kathleen Peters and one other candidate in the Republican primary.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/david-jolly-alex-sink-florida-special-election-2014-104397.html#ixzz2vbYg4hLd";


7 posted on 03/10/2014 4:17:01 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: staytrue
Rick Baker, a popular former mayor of St. Petersburg,

Interesting tidbit about Rick Baker turning down the GOP...

He would have walked all over Alex Sink...as a matter of fact she might not have even run...

8 posted on 03/10/2014 4:23:42 PM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“Sheesh, no wonder why the GOPe continues to lose.”

Read post 7, this guy is not GOPe, he is likely teaparty.


9 posted on 03/10/2014 4:27:47 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: Norm Lenhart

read post 7, GOP wanted nothing to do with this guy.


10 posted on 03/10/2014 4:28:35 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: Clintonfatigued
cradle-robbing

41 and 27...so no, not really. That's 14 years. 39 and 25 would actually closer than 41 and 27, though because that's one decade number apart rather than 2. When it gets to be 44 and 30 it will seem less so again.

11 posted on 03/10/2014 4:29:57 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Clintonfatigued
http://www.davidjolly.com/issues

No wonder Boehner and his ilk didn't want to touch David Jolly...

He's a conservative...

12 posted on 03/10/2014 4:35:12 PM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Clintonfatigued

With friends like the gopE, who needs enemies?


13 posted on 03/10/2014 4:39:53 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Clintonfatigued

http://lucasoverby.com/
Some polls have Lucas Overby over 12% he did well in the debates The GOPe just never learns. The Libertarian will pull from both sides Alex Sink is a typical socialist dem.


14 posted on 03/10/2014 4:40:53 PM PDT by scottteng (Tax government employees til they quit and find something useful to do)
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To: Clintonfatigued

You’ve got your candidates confused. Jolly was born and raised in the district. Sink lost the governor’s race and was then recruited by the DNC to run for Young’s vacant seat. She doesn’t live in the district and only rented a condo at the foot of the bridge to where she lives outside the district. When asked if she was actually planning on moving to the district even if she lost she gave the non-response of “I don’t plan to lose.” What is actually going on is the GOP-e sees that Jolly’s numbers don’t look favorable so they are leaking hit pieces to blame him for the loss. However, he is right to be critical of the ads that the GOP-e is running. Yes, Obamamcare is unpopular but they have saturated the airwaves with nothing but generic anti-Obamacare ads that are probably being run in every other district with GOP-e ads. Young would always win the district easily on local and veteran issues. Jolly was his assistant. Rather than seizing the mantel of Young and running as a local product and his heir, the GOP-e ran generic national issue ads. Young’s name and Jolly’s ties to him have gone unmentioned. Now, they are blaming Jolly for their attempt to impose on him what the “smarter” GOP-e consultants are saying how his campaign should run. Meanwhile, the carpet bagger will probably win. Since she won’t be representing the district because she has no ties there, she will just be representing Obama and Pelosi in congress. Talk about taxation without representation. Their was a better candidate than Jolly in the republican primaries, but Jolly would sure be better than Sink.


15 posted on 03/10/2014 4:43:24 PM PDT by Armando Guerra
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Sheesh, no wonder why the GOPe continues to lose. Every candidate has to be as pure as the falling rain.

That's not just a GOPe thing. It's the fatal flaw of conservatives of all stripes who believe that politics is philosophy.

16 posted on 03/10/2014 4:48:54 PM PDT by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: Armando Guerra

Young would always win the district easily on local and veteran issues. Jolly was his assistant. Rather than seizing the mantel of Young and running as a local product and his heir, the GOP-e ran generic national issue ads.


Great update, thanks. The whole fiasco reeks of lazy beltway GOPe consultants. Probably Romney campaign veterans. Born losers.


17 posted on 03/10/2014 4:55:52 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Hildy
I live in the district, and I tell you, today has been very interesting. We have had six (6!) phone calls today asking us to vote for Sink. Four calls were robocalls with recorded messages, and two calls were live people asking if they "could count on our support for Alex Sink."

And just 10 minutes ago, at 7:50 pm, some young man came to our door again asking if we would vote for Sink.

Perhaps Jolly is leading after all?

18 posted on 03/10/2014 5:02:35 PM PDT by RightField (one of the obstreperous citizens insisting on incorrect thinking - C. Krauthamer)
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To: staytrue
By that time, Jolly’s name had emerged as a possible candidate.

Just who is backing Jolly?

19 posted on 03/10/2014 5:44:08 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: Clintonfatigued; Impy; SoFloFreeper; left that other site; seekthetruth; theothercheek; ...
I heard on Michael Medved's nationally syndicated radio show today that early voting reports show more Pubbies than 'Rats casting ballots in this race, for what that's worth. Medved touted Jolly as a good candidate and urged listeners in the district to go out and vote for Jolly tomorrow. He pointed out that Obamacare was the major issue and he seemed optimistic that Jolly would win.

The posted Politico article is carefully crafted by 'Rat hacks there to overplay discord in the Jolly campaign in order to help his opponent. (Of course, every political campaign has its internal problems, most of which are better dealt with within the campaign itself rather than letting these internal discussions leak out to the enemy media.) Seems as if that same Politico article was posted a couple of days ago on another FR thread.

20 posted on 03/10/2014 5:51:03 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Clintonfatigued; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ...

Where would be be without Politico and its unbiased, non-agenda-driven factfinding? /s

Thanks CF.


21 posted on 03/10/2014 6:01:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: justiceseeker93

Medved is a RINO lovin’, TEA Party hatin’ idiot. I have absolutely no respect for him.


22 posted on 03/10/2014 6:23:30 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: staytrue

Were they not funding him? They seemed to want something to do with him until he made them look bad. Considering how often this ‘Unexpectedly!” happens it’s either intentional or incompetence. I’d say intentional.

If you feel worn down and increasingly hopeless over the actions of the GOP and it’s chosen candidates, as many do, perhaps it’s because that’s the effect they are going for. Because not even the admitted libs are this incompetent.


23 posted on 03/10/2014 6:33:00 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Clintonfatigued; justiceseeker93; AuH2ORepublican; hockeyfan44; fieldmarshaldj; randita; ...

I don’t know who you’re mad at, no one of electoral significance bothered to run for the seat. State Rep. Kathleen Peters obviously isn’t all that or else Jolly wouldn’t have beaten her so easily in the primary.

Don’t give a damn about his personal life, I hope the voters aren’t so foolish to not vote for him because he’s divorced and has a new girlfriend that younger than him (but hardly a baby in a cradle), it’s not the bible belt or the 1950’s.

Politico wants him to lose so I don’t care what they write. If he does lose it will probably be because the liartarian stole enough votes to hand Stink a plurality.


24 posted on 03/10/2014 10:48:11 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: justiceseeker93; GOPJ; sickoflibs; Grampa Dave
So I gather Jolly's Dumbocrat opponent, Alex Sink. is such a g-r-e-a-t candidate---the DNC pulled put all the stops for her.

Plus when DNC party leaders AND mega-vote-getters-----Obama and Michele------spent the past week in sunny Florida, they put their collective weight behind Sink ....and even campaigned for her several times.

ROTFLOL.

25 posted on 03/11/2014 4:07:44 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Impy

Nuts and sluts.


26 posted on 03/11/2014 6:39:18 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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To: Clintonfatigued; shortstop; Liz; SunkenCiv; ml/nj; John Semmens; left that other site; Hildy; ...
This whole stupid Politico article doesn't mean a thing now because Jolly won the race by 2 percentage points. I think it's probably too wide a margin for a 'Rat recount with hanging chads and whatnot, but it isn't over until the 'Rat candidate formally concedes.

Some interesting facts about this race:

(1)Although the 'rats are claiming the district is traditionally GOP, it obviously didn't have the same geographical boundaries before the 2012 election as it does now. But in that 2012 election, OBAMA carried it!

(2)The 'Rat candidate Sink outspent Jolly on TV advertising by more than 3 to 1.

(3)The total number of votes, 182,000 plus, sounds rather high for a congressional special election. Can someone compare that to other vote totals in other special House district elections around the country in recent years? Were there irregularities (guess which party was more likely to participate in them) which artificially inflated the vote total? (Remember that each House district around the country has approximately the same total population.)

27 posted on 03/11/2014 7:27:29 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93; Clintonfatigued; All

Sink concedes...

http://www.sunshinestatenews.com/blog/alex-sink-concedes-david-jolly-cd-13


28 posted on 03/11/2014 7:37:44 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: justiceseeker93

I really enjoy FL election threads. Some sharp analysts in the gunshine state.

FWIW, in our TX Senate race last week, only about 7 million was spent in the R primary with 7 candidates.


29 posted on 03/11/2014 8:10:42 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: justiceseeker93
Can someone compare that to other vote totals in other special House district elections around the country in recent years?

It's St. Pete. Democrats will win the mummy vote.

-PJ

30 posted on 03/11/2014 8:23:21 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
It's St. Pete. Democrats will win the mummy vote.

You might be right, but sometimes, like in this race, it seems as if there weren't enough mummies that could be found to make up their deficit, for which we have to be thankful.

31 posted on 03/11/2014 8:44:34 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93
It's a good thing that Florida is at sea level with a soft coastline, or else they might get the 800-year-old monk vote, too.

-PJ

32 posted on 03/11/2014 8:51:27 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: txhurl

FloriDuh...... no one ever says TexasDuh...


33 posted on 03/11/2014 10:09:21 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: justiceseeker93

Good to see Sink fail 2x in a row!!! By and large female candidates are awful even the Republican ones///// who I will vote for due to being the least worst


34 posted on 03/11/2014 10:12:02 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: justiceseeker93

If bogus Dem ballots were in...they obviously were not enough to undo this Republican win


35 posted on 03/11/2014 10:14:11 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

NO, In Illinois candidates have to be Pro Abortion, Pro Gay Marraige, and Pro Amnesty to br considered GOOD candidate material to the GOP, and thats a FACT!


36 posted on 03/12/2014 5:05:50 AM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty and Let the the Stupid AmericanTaxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: Clintonfatigued
And yet, with the reported ineptitude, Jolly still won over a more-oiled, more-funded Democrat machine.

Democrats are so screwed in November.

37 posted on 03/12/2014 5:08:15 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: justiceseeker93

Thanks for the ping!


38 posted on 03/12/2014 7:50:38 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
The 14-year difference does sound like RINOs were looking for everything they could to defeat Jolly.

It's a silly argument, and a 14 year difference isn't at all unusual. Even Republican guys think Kucinich's younger wife is a plus.....methinks the whiners are getting desperate.

39 posted on 03/12/2014 7:57:54 AM PDT by grania
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To: Clintonfatigued

More propaganda.


40 posted on 03/12/2014 12:13:17 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: dennisw; All
If bogus Dem ballots were in...they obviously were not enough to undo this Republican win.

Not this time. But it was pretty darn close. You have to be concerned with what might happen in November when, for example, there may be a rerun of this race, and the 'Rats could amp up their fraud and cheating efforts. Having early voting aids and abets the malefactors, giving them more time and more opportunities.

By and large female candidates are awful even the Republican ones.

Republican women candidates tend to be more physically attractive than their 'Rat counterparts, like Palin and Bachmann. But there are some mieskeits and RINOs in that bunch, too.

41 posted on 03/12/2014 1:08:20 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: JulieRNR21; Joe Brower; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; GOPsterinMA; randita; Sun; ...

Wow, the election results were amazing to me. Republicans choose a dud to be their nominee. He ran in a district that twice voted for Obama in a key special election. His opponent was better-known, better financed, and a better candidate. And he won anyway!

This election, first and foremost, is a rejection of Obamacare and the Democrat leadership in Congress. There’s no other way to read this. Most Democrats were confident of victory and many Republicans were privately resigned to defeat. It’s not possible that the Democrats can spin this as insignificant.


42 posted on 03/12/2014 1:27:00 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (The War on Drugs is Big Government statism)
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