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How Climate Change Drove the Rise of Genghis Khan
TIME ^ | March 10, 2014 | by Bryan Walsh

Posted on 03/10/2014 5:24:10 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

The Mongol warlord built the world's largest land-based empire. But he couldn't have done it without a change in climate.

The difference was Genghis Khan, the warlord who united the tribes and launched them on their wave of unstoppable conquest. But the Mongol Empire wasn’t solely the product of Genghis’s will. As a fascinating new study in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Science (PNAS) demonstrates, the rise of the Mongols may have owed just as much to beneficial changes in the climate that made the grasslands of the Mongol steppes green and verdant, fueling the horses that were the backbone of the empire’s military. Climate change helped make the Mongol Empire possible.

The PNAS study came from research done by the tree-ring scientists Neil Wanker at Columbia University’s Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory and Amy Hessl at West Virginia University.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: academicbias; boycotttimewarner; climatechange; climategate; columbiauniversity; fearmongering; genghiskhan; globalwarmingscare; godsgravesglyphs; hoax; hysteria; jumping2conclusions; junkscience; lurch; manmadeglobalwarming; mongols; neilwanker; pseudoscience; socialism; thegreenmenace; timelies

1 posted on 03/10/2014 5:24:10 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So instead of anthropogenic global warming, it was mongolithic global warming?

Do these people even read the same talking points?

Sheesh.


2 posted on 03/10/2014 5:26:46 PM PDT by ImaGraftedBranch (...By reading this, you've collapsed my wave function. Thanks.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Ah, another Wanker study...


3 posted on 03/10/2014 5:27:43 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Shhh....we’ve got to hide the Medieval Warming Period.


4 posted on 03/10/2014 5:28:11 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Climate does change.

Rome was at its peak during a warm period.
The Dark Ages were a cold period.
Leif Erickson sailed to the New World during a warm period -- Britain had vineyards then.
The Little Ice Age last from about 1500 to 1850.

Are we getting warmer now? [shrug] I think opinions differ -- but the key concept is that Climate does change. It's not our fault, and we can't "fix it". We're just along for the ride.

5 posted on 03/10/2014 5:29:54 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Climate change helped make the Mongol Empire possible.

It made the Al Gore empire possible.

6 posted on 03/10/2014 5:29:55 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The Turkic migration eastward was done in SUVs?


7 posted on 03/10/2014 5:30:33 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
But he couldn't have done it without a change in climate.

Okay. But who caused it?

8 posted on 03/10/2014 5:31:17 PM PDT by Dartman (CDN PM Stephen Harper may not be perfect, but we don't have to be ashamed or embarassed of him.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The PNAS study came from research done by the tree-ring scientists Neil Wanker at Columbia University’s Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory and Amy Hessl at West Virginia University. …
Neil who? LOL!
9 posted on 03/10/2014 5:31:44 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So if Al Gore had been around to ban the internal combustion engine, Genghis would have been out of the mongol horde business. OOO-K.


10 posted on 03/10/2014 5:31:58 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/~adk/mongoliaFire/

You are paying for this Mongolian project via the National Science Foundation. You mention climate change and you get Federal money


11 posted on 03/10/2014 5:42:42 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Oh, for the love.........


12 posted on 03/10/2014 5:44:08 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Maybe 1000 years from now when documents are finally declassified, historians can tell how Obama-Khan with his allies Effin’-K and Al-Gore were able to rise to global hegemony because of climate change.


13 posted on 03/10/2014 5:45:54 PM PDT by bakeneko
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Didn’t I see this same stuff on the history channel 20 years ago?


14 posted on 03/10/2014 5:52:09 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...
Thanks Oldeconomybuyer.

15 posted on 03/10/2014 5:52:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Puppage

After the Mongols swept west, and then were later turned back, Eastern Ukraine and Crimea remained in the eastern sphere of things while the rest of Ukraine looked west.

So really, this whole thing in Ukraine is due to Global Warming. (And everyone thought it was Bush’s fault!).


16 posted on 03/10/2014 5:57:50 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Oh, I LIKE THAT!

What a POS traitor.


17 posted on 03/10/2014 6:11:10 PM PDT by Monkey Face (Don't try to win over the haters. You're not the Jackass Whisperer.)
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To: Olog-hai
The Turkic migration eastward was done in SUVs?

Damn it. Beat me to it.
18 posted on 03/10/2014 6:18:01 PM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So, the climate was changing, and was affecting mankind in the 1200s, but now we shouldn’t expect that?

Adaptation is the only answer. We cannot control climate. We just need to adapt to its changes.


19 posted on 03/10/2014 6:40:18 PM PDT by Rocky (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. George Orwell)
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To: Rocky

Yeah, but what about the children?!!! (sarc)


20 posted on 03/10/2014 6:50:27 PM PDT by JmyBryan
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Actually, a series of betrayals and such made ol’ Ghengis the man as he is known today.

Him and his mongol buddies, being very very good at doing that mobile war stuff, and being fearsome as all get out, drove the rise of the Khan.


21 posted on 03/10/2014 7:02:47 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Olog-hai
It must have been those elephant and buffalo battle tanks of the day. They didn't run on gas but they released a lot into the atmosphere from back firing, or farts. They also left steaming piles of obama all over the battlefield. These damn animals are still releasing gas into our atmosphere today. Didn't Al invent a gas bag for a cows ass and enviro-nazi’s mouth?
22 posted on 03/10/2014 7:09:07 PM PDT by peeps36 (I'm Not A Racist, I Hate Douchebags of All Colors)
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To: JmyBryan

Yes, we must return to the stone age. For the children.


23 posted on 03/10/2014 7:13:02 PM PDT by Rocky (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. George Orwell)
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To: ImaGraftedBranch

Climate change has been occurring since creation. It is built into the order of nature, and occasionally influenced by activity on the surface of the Sun.

It gets warm, then it gets cold - and on and on and on.

so what’s the big deal about climate change???


24 posted on 03/10/2014 7:35:10 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Global warming would be nice—worth putting a guest yurt out in the yard.


25 posted on 03/10/2014 8:47:29 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; Revolting cat!

George Bush must’ve had a time machine.


26 posted on 03/10/2014 9:23:33 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; GeronL; Revolting cat!
The trees—some of which were still alive—were ancient, some more than 1,100 years old. Old trees provide a living history book of the climate. During warm, wet years, the trees grow more, and the rings inside the trunk that mark those years are wider. The opposite happens during dry years, when the rings would be narrow.

Note the use of the word "WERE" next to "still alive". Researchers killed old growth trees in the name of SCIENCE!

Sacrificed to Gaia to amend for the sins of Western man.

27 posted on 03/11/2014 4:57:32 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: Grimmy

Somebody needs to ping Vladimir Putin and tell where his real danger lies


28 posted on 03/11/2014 6:30:06 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; SunkenCiv; dennisw
I wonder if it occurred to these scientists that by documenting the Medieval Warm Period they are undercutting one of the articles of faith of the climate change alarmists.

Maybe they know that if they connected the dots their funding would dry up.

BTW, this warm period also coincided with the Renaissance of the 12th Century in Western Europe.

29 posted on 03/11/2014 12:53:18 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Did not realize there were SUVs that long ago?


30 posted on 03/11/2014 12:58:02 PM PDT by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: dennisw
In Eisenhower's farewell address, in which he famously warned of the dangers of the military-industrial complex, he also warned that Big Science could be corrupted by government funding. Ike was incredibly prescient.

Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.

The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present – and is gravely to be regarded.

Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.
Eisenhower's Farewell Address to the Nation
January 17, 1961
31 posted on 03/11/2014 1:31:01 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Are we getting warmer now? [shrug] I think opinions differ -- but the key concept is that Climate does change. It's not our fault, and we can't "fix it". We're just along for the ride.

There is a reason the AGW proponents like to use 150 years ago as the benchmark evidence that we are so much warmer today. That was the end of the last little ice age, so ANYTHING is warmer than that!

32 posted on 03/11/2014 5:17:02 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: colorado tanker
I wonder if it occurred to these scientists that by documenting the Medieval Warm Period they are undercutting one of the articles of faith of the climate change alarmists.

I looked up one of the researchers Neil Wanker at Columbia University’s Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory_____  I could not find any global warming propaganda from him. Looks like he is fairly honest as far as climate research goes. He might be into pure research minus leftist political agenda

33 posted on 03/11/2014 10:06:40 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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