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Was the missing Malaysian airliner the victim of a terrorist test run? [VIDEO]
The Daily Caller ^ | 10 Mar 2014 | Brendan Bordelon

Posted on 03/10/2014 5:44:30 PM PDT by mandaladon

New information on two passengers from Malaysia Air Flight MH370 — which disappeared without a trace off the coast of Vietnam on Friday — raises the possbiilty the plane was bombed as a terrorist test run. If confirmed, the guilty organization’s silence means more attacks may be forthcoming.

While reports remain unsettled, most agree that two unknown individuals purchased tickets for the flight stolen fake Italian and Austrian passports. More ominously, the tickets were purchased together through an Iranian middleman, known to a travel agent only as “Mr. Ali.”

Terrorist organizations usually claim responsibility for their attacks, especially successful ones. But it wouldn’t be the first time an airliner was bombed without a confession and with false passports, and some experts can’t help but compare this mystery to an earlier bombing plot.

New information on two passengers from Malaysia Air Flight MH370 — which disappeared without a trace off the coast of Vietnam on Friday — raises the possbiilty the plane was bombed as a terrorist test run. If confirmed, the guilty organization’s silence means more attacks may be forthcoming.

While reports remain unsettled, most agree that two unknown individuals purchased tickets for the flight stolen fake Italian and Austrian passports. More ominously, the tickets were purchased together through an Iranian middleman, known to a travel agent only as “Mr. Ali.”

Terrorist organizations usually claim responsibility for their attacks, especially successful ones. But it wouldn’t be the first time an airliner was bombed without a confession and with false passports, and some experts can’t help but compare this mystery to an earlier bombing plot.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: globaljihad; iran; malaysia; mh370; terror; waronterror
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“Operation Bojinka”....................I remember this. I think Discovery Channel or National Geographic did an episode about it.
1 posted on 03/10/2014 5:44:30 PM PDT by mandaladon
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To: mandaladon

911 <-—— Landing training not even needed.

Boston Atrocity <-— Passports not needed after warning

Malaysian ??? <—— Stolen passports ignored

Ian Fleming:
“Once is happenstance.
Twice is coincidence.
Three times, it’s enemy action.”


2 posted on 03/10/2014 5:48:32 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: mandaladon

3 posted on 03/10/2014 5:53:01 PM PDT by Brandonmark (OWCM is The new American Minority! 11.06.12 - Day of Infamy!)
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To: mandaladon

Somewhere Ramzi Yousef and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed are smiling.


4 posted on 03/10/2014 5:53:15 PM PDT by null and void ( Obama is Law-Less because Republican "leaders" are BALL-LESS!!)
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To: Brandonmark

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bojinka_plot


5 posted on 03/10/2014 5:57:15 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: mandaladon

Waterboard anyone associated with these guys. That reminds me, hows Jarrett’s ‘SECRET DEAL WITH IRAN’ going? Has anyone been allowed to READ IT, YET?


6 posted on 03/10/2014 5:59:41 PM PDT by Obama_Is_A_Feminist
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To: null and void

Reminds me of the underwear bomber and the third party unknown guy that bought his ticket and got him on the Detroit plane. Wasn’t there some problem getting him on the plane?


7 posted on 03/10/2014 5:59:59 PM PDT by Ms. Blunt
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To: mandaladon

Given the stolen passports slipping through the system successfully, there could be a dozen airliners up right now with terrorists on board doing the exact same thing.

Meanwhile, worldwide governments stick their thumbs up their collective asses!


8 posted on 03/10/2014 6:02:31 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: mandaladon
My thoughts as well. The malefactors are alive and well.
9 posted on 03/10/2014 6:02:37 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: mandaladon

Blowing the airliner up would indeed have been a terrible and cruel way to murder hundreds of people.

I’m more concerned — and I don’t know anything about piloting, air control, etc. — that there is some way that plane was taken to an airfield for later use in a 911 type attack.

I wouldn’t expect the target to be the US. That seems a long way to fly undetected, and the odds of another landing site for refueling would be next to impossible.

What would be a nearby target of high value that an airline flying on the deck could take out?


10 posted on 03/10/2014 6:03:11 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: mandaladon

Until someone finds wreckage (and an oil slick doesn’t count), I’m not convinced it went down.


11 posted on 03/10/2014 6:06:53 PM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: xzins
Iran stole our 'top secret' drone with no repercussions, so why not a commercial aircraft? That's a daunting task, but so are most thefts.

American intel says no evidence of an explosion detected in that area by satellites. A real head scratcher. F-16's, F/A-18's and F-22's on full alert I hope.

12 posted on 03/10/2014 6:09:42 PM PDT by Obama_Is_A_Feminist
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To: mandaladon

Remember Terry Nichols, McVeigh’s army buddy and older partner?

On his last flight home to the USA from a part of the Phillipines famous for Abu Sayef, airport security caught him trying to secret aboard the flight items that were identified as BOMB components.

Before his last flight he had left money for his wife “in the event that I never return”.

One Abu Sayef operative told police in interrofgation that one American they once met with was called “The Farmer” and that he had been an American solider and farmer.

Those two things were both true of Terry Nichols —farmer and ex-soldier.


13 posted on 03/10/2014 6:15:10 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: mandaladon

It is obvious that this plane was hijacked. After it was commandeered the hijackers lowered its altitude below radar level. They were then able to take it to some obscure landing location without be detected.


14 posted on 03/10/2014 6:15:45 PM PDT by notpoliticallycorewrecked (The more you know, the more you realize that you don't know.)
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To: notpoliticallycorewrecked

The 9/11 hijackers also turned off the transponders of the aircraft as soon as they had control.


15 posted on 03/10/2014 6:17:56 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Obama_Is_A_Feminist
A real head scratcher. F-16's, F/A-18's and F-22's on full alert I hope.

I agree we should be on the alert.

The Americans have not had the use of a dedicated carrier-berthing port in the region since The Philippines curtailed the Subic Bay and Clark Field leases in 1992.

The only other South-East Asian facility capable of handling aircraft carriers, Malaysia's Port Klang, is occasionally visited by US vessels, but there is no base agreement between the two countries.


16 posted on 03/10/2014 6:20:00 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: mandaladon

Make no sense. The world tipped off to their methods.


17 posted on 03/10/2014 6:22:35 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: notpoliticallycorewrecked

I am thinking this as well.


18 posted on 03/10/2014 6:24:57 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Brandonmark

Yousef boarded the flight under the fake Italian name “Armaldo Forlani”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_Airlines_Flight_434


19 posted on 03/10/2014 6:26:00 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Ms. Blunt
Reminds me of the underwear bomber and the third party unknown guy that bought his ticket and got him on the Detroit plane. Wasn’t there some problem getting him on the plane?

Yes.

Witnesses reported seeing him have a very hard time getting on the plane initially. Then, they said, a better-dressed Caucasian gentleman with an air of authority interceded at the counter. Thereafter, Mr. Underwear was able to board and burn off his penis.

There were also reports that the authorities feared there was more than one bomb on board and that they were prevented from coming anywhere near their unloaded luggage.

The intercession from the honky and the fact that the bomber was permitted to bring a bomb (of sorts) aboard has led many to scream, "false flag", but THINK MORE:

If they had arrested him BEFORE he boarded, Mr. Underwear's buddies would have immediately concluded that they had a MOLE in their ranks --a realization that would have likely led to the death of that mole, OUR SOURCE.

So if you want to protect your source for future timely info ironically you MUST permit a bombing OF SORTS to actually go off --scary, huh?

You see, in this way Undewear, Inc. concludes that the bombing failure was owing to the bomber's own INCOMPETENCE, and not due to a MOLE:

no mole hunt = mole survives = you can still disrupt future operations against you.

20 posted on 03/10/2014 6:32:07 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Don Corleone

“Make no sense. The world tipped off to their methods.”

Not to mention why they would attack a Malaysian airliner. What do mussies have against Malaysians or chinese?


21 posted on 03/10/2014 6:39:02 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: xzins
I’m more concerned ...that there is some way that plane was taken to an airfield for later use in a 911 type attack.

My suspicions too until they prove it cannot be done.

22 posted on 03/10/2014 6:42:03 PM PDT by Rapscallion (First your image. Than your voice. Then location. Now you really are a subject.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
What? You didn't hear about the knife attack in China, where the Uighurs killed 27 people?

Let me throw this out there:

Does the U.S. or another country operate reconnaissance drones in that area? Did we smack our drone into that aircraft? Or if a COUNTRY NEARBY THAT AIRCRAFT did, there'd be a massive COVER-UP to avoid public outrage.

23 posted on 03/10/2014 6:50:37 PM PDT by Obama_Is_A_Feminist
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

There were a lot of employees from different companies that deal with the US..a company in Austin, TX for one..and you have the man from Texas who worked for IBM..can’t really figure out why terrorists pick the planes they do..why did the 9/11 hijackers pick Flight 11 or Flight 77 to hijack..what were so special about those two planes..sometimes its just about convenience


24 posted on 03/10/2014 6:51:17 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Rapscallion

the only way to prevent the plane from air traffic control detection would be nap of the earth flying. I can’t imagine that being maintained all the way to the US. If that plane is landed someplace, then its target is close and not far.

See #16. A return by a Malaysian plane to Malaysia has a certain sense about it so far as knowledge of any peculiarities of the area is concerned. And a US carrier (any warship, really) would be a high value target if kamikazied.


25 posted on 03/10/2014 6:54:13 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: mandaladon

Philippine Airlines Flight 434
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_Airlines_Flight_434

Bojinka plot
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bojinka_plot

2001 shoe bomb plot
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_shoe_bomb_plot

2006 transatlantic aircraft plot
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Transatlantic_Aircraft_Plot

Cargo planes bomb plot
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_cargo_plane_bomb_plot


26 posted on 03/10/2014 7:00:18 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: mandaladon

Exactly, a Bojinka plan is probably in the offing. They might, for example, have perfected a bomb that can pass through security. For example, identical shaving cream cans, perfect on the outside, they might even have real shaving cream in the top quarter. All of the ones for the big “Bojinka” run could be set at the factory to detonate at the same moment. Then terrorists just need to be airborne at that time, and boom, 20 or so airliners get blown out of the sky.

That’s the only reason NOT to take “credit” for this downed airliner.

Many more are in the offing.


27 posted on 03/10/2014 7:09:34 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

“why did the 9/11 hijackers pick Flight 11 or Flight 77 to hijack..what were so special about those two planes..sometimes its just about convenience”

During reconnaisance flights they noticed those tended to be less than full, yet filled with fuel because they were cross-country flights, thus able to cause maximum damage. Because the flights tended to be less than full (Tuesday mornings) they would be easier to hijack. Who was on it had nothing to do with it.


28 posted on 03/10/2014 7:26:20 PM PDT by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business)
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To: mandaladon

D Company would be on my short list of usual suspects as the facilitators.


29 posted on 03/10/2014 7:28:49 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: mandaladon

Bttt


30 posted on 03/10/2014 7:30:40 PM PDT by Guenevere
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To: mandaladon; a fool in paradise

No, it was deliberate provocation of the truthers, and as the article illustrates, it worked!


31 posted on 03/10/2014 7:32:09 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: Travis McGee

Looking at the crime from the terror aspect, it seems to me a lot more scary to not know who the perp is.


32 posted on 03/10/2014 7:40:14 PM PDT by logitech (It is time.)
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To: mandaladon

If more attacks are coming, here’s a tip: Buy Citrix systems (CTXS), maker of GoToMeeting, and tangentially, perhaps CSCO (Cisco), owner of WebEx.


33 posted on 03/10/2014 7:41:26 PM PDT by montag813
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To: LRoggy
Because the flights tended to be less than full (Tuesday mornings) they would be easier to hijack.

The Malaysia Air 777 had only 239 people aboard. The 777 has a capacity of 415.

34 posted on 03/10/2014 7:43:23 PM PDT by montag813
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To: mandaladon

Yes, I think I saw that special. It was very well done and eye-opening. I see that on the Wiki story on Bojinka, Ramzi Yousef boarded the plane he bombed, using an Italian passport. Must be something about the Italian ones that make them easy to forge.


35 posted on 03/10/2014 7:46:27 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: xzins
What would be a nearby target of high value that an airline flying on the deck could take out?

The U.S. carrier CVN-73 George Washington was last reported docked at Changi Naval Base, Singapore, pretty close to Kuala Lampur, according to Google Maps, but it is an old listing...


36 posted on 03/10/2014 7:54:28 PM PDT by montag813
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To: xzins

Pilot suicide? We remember EgyptAir Flight 990 when First Officer Gameel Al-Batouti began saying, “Tawakkalt ala Allah” (I rely on God), took the airline off autopiolet and shut down the engines. All 217 aboard perished.


37 posted on 03/10/2014 7:59:01 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: gaijin

If the bomb was anywhere, it was in a body cavity.


38 posted on 03/10/2014 8:00:13 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: xzins
I’m more concerned — and I don’t know anything about piloting, air control, etc. — that there is some way that plane was taken to an airfield for later use in a 911 type attack.

It's possible I guess, with some fancy flying.

I don't think it's likely, unless they have a landing strip with fueling capabilities. It was fueled for KLM to Beijing, plus a little extra. Flying hundreds of miles at a low altitude would drain a lot of fuel. Unless refueled, they might have enough gas to get off the ground, but it won't get far. Also, if the tanks are nearly empty on impact during an attack, there wouldn't be nearly as much fire as 9/11. Those jets had just taken off on cross-continental trips, so they were loaded to the gills with gas.

Let's say they can refuel where they are in hiding. They would have to get altitude, unlike this landing run, and they'll be spotted. Whatever Air Traffic Control there is will know it's them, and if they refuse to communicate, the Chinese will probably shoot them down, they're likely target in China. If it's terrorists, it's probably the Uighurs.

39 posted on 03/10/2014 8:01:28 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: cuban leaf

..........I’m not either and particularly after a little 5 minute exercise I just did. Namely, on Google Earth, I drew a line between Kuala Lumpur and Bejing. Then, I started looking for 8,000 foot air strips less than 500 miles from that flight line. There are many. But, to name just one. Tha Thong, Thailand. It has a 8,000 runway 150 wide. It looks to me like an old USAF runway. It is remote with almost no development within miles. All it would take is turning off the transponder and fly over there. Enterprising terrorists could bribe Vietnamese air traffic controllers to “lose” the airplane on radar. Then, park it under a Quonset building a few days.

I think there are probably dozens of places this plane could be. That no wreckage has been found in 3 days and the satellites didn’t see anything causes me to start wondering that this airplane is intact somewhere.


40 posted on 03/10/2014 8:02:11 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: notpoliticallycorewrecked
After it was commandeered the hijackers lowered its altitude below radar level. They were then able to take it to some obscure landing location without be detected.

And then what?

How many obscure locations are suitable for landing a B777 unnoticed? How many if you plan to refuel and fly somewhere else? What do you do with the passengers?

Plus, even with the transponder off, there would have been primary radar echoes as it descended towards the deck.

41 posted on 03/10/2014 8:02:54 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: mandaladon; All

All cash for one way tickets.... and the BBC is reporting that the two on the stolen passports are in fact Iranians


42 posted on 03/10/2014 8:26:47 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: cynwoody

Well Vietnam has lots of them. They might not be in the best of shape since they are left over from the Viet Nam war, but then if a group of terrorists wanted to set this all up, it is a big possibility, including the repair of the landing site.


43 posted on 03/10/2014 8:29:05 PM PDT by notpoliticallycorewrecked (The more you know, the more you realize that you don't know.)
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To: mandaladon

Want to see an interesting video. Take a look at this!

Busted! Flight Radar Caught Changing Flight Path of Malaysia Flight 370!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNZtz-HVy6c

This video should probably have its own thread.


44 posted on 03/10/2014 8:31:59 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: gaijin

Ramzi Yousef, mastermind of the 1993 WTC and Oklahoma City bombings, with Terry Nichols and Iraqi intelligence. Timothy McVey in a minor role.
Read The Third Terrorist by Jayna Davis.


45 posted on 03/10/2014 8:34:57 PM PDT by namvolunteer (Obama says the US is subservient to the UN and the Constitution does not apply. That is treason.r)
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To: mandaladon

Here’s an interesting news item that probably needs its own thread.

Missing MH370: Kelantan duo report seeing lights ‘falling’ at high speed
http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2014/03/11/Kelantan-duo-report-seeing-lights-falling-at-high-speed/

KOTA BARU: The authorities here have their hands full after receiving at least two reports from the public that they saw an aircraft flying low on the same day Malaysian Airlines MH370 vanished.

In his report, the owner of a fishing boat claimed that he saw an airplane flying low while he was at sea with a friend about 14.4km from Kuala Besar in Pantai Cahaya Bulan here at 1.30am on Saturday.

Azid Ibrahim, 66, said the aircraft was heading towards international waters.


46 posted on 03/10/2014 8:36:49 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Obama_Is_A_Feminist

nuke on a jet.


47 posted on 03/10/2014 8:44:37 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Revolting cat!

Maybe the hijacking last month into Europe was a “test run”. The pilot himself hijacked the plane and then claimed a “asylum”. How about this, just land the plane where it is supposed to go, then don’t get back on the return flight!


48 posted on 03/10/2014 8:45:41 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: Diogenesis

No crash debris at all has been found at all or any sign thereof so I rule out a crash. Even EgyptAir flight 990 had some, not a lot, of debris floating on the ocean, after the Muzzie dived it into the drink.

I speculate that the aircraft has been either hijacked by the Iranians or stolen with the cap and f.o.’s permission. They turned the aircraft around and flew to a remote airfield in one of many numerous islands in that region of the world, disembarked the passengers, and have loaded an Iranian nuke on board. That 777 will be repainted and re-programmed to look like another legitimate civilian aircraft. Then it will be flown into US airspace and detonated over a large city either in CA or NY. It probably would not be detected until it was too late.

Think of what would happen if this scenario played out.


49 posted on 03/10/2014 8:48:29 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Damn that is intense.


50 posted on 03/10/2014 8:59:41 PM PDT by Tuxedo (Forget Gold - buy Lead!)
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