Skip to comments.“Cosmos” Premiere: Does Society Care about Science? (Reboot of Show By Carl Sagan)
Posted on 03/10/2014 7:42:21 PM PDT by lbryce
Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey premiered yesterday night.* This reboot is an update on the original series, which was produced by (possibly) the most beloved astronomer of the 20th century, the late Carl Sagan. The series initially ran in September of 1980, and Sagan subsequently turned it into a book. This was all 34 years ago. Even now, the words Sagan etched into his book are continuously shared across various social media outlets, which is a testament to truly how awe-inspiring the presentation was, and still is.
However, anyone who is familiar with science knows that it progresses at an amazing speed, so while Sagans series isnt what one would call inaccurate, there is a lot of information that is missing or out-of-date. As such, astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson signed on to be the presenter for an update (or a continuation, if you will) to the series, which is meant to cover the same material as the original series, along with including the plethora of new knowledge that is based on the advances that weve made over the last three decades.
Tyson, along with Sagans widow, Ann Druyan, has been attempting to create a remake of the series ever since Sagans death in 1996. However, producers and TV executives believed that the series would not appeal to modern audiences. This is a rather alarming belief, especially when one considers that the original Cosmos remained one of the networks highest rated program for nearly a decade. Consequently one is forced to wonder: Has society really changed that much since the original premiere?
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The new host is noted astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson, who holds his own against Carl Sagan, as an overall charming, congenial unofficial spokesman for science, astronomy cosmology and now host of the rebooted "Cosmos". Although I really doubt he's ever going to utter the term billyuns and billyuns...
The premiere of Cosmos will re-air tonight at 10 p.m. ET/PT on the National Geographic Channel and include some extra material on the making of the show. Check out some real science.
Last night, 13.3 million tuned in to the launch of ABCs Resurrection, a show about the dead returning to life, while the The Walking Dead, another show about the dead coming back to life (with a lot more bloods and guts), aired in the same time-slot. The ratings havent been made public yet, but the number certainly surpassed 10 million viewers (the ratings-powerhouse manged to surpass the closing ceremonies of the Sochi Olympics by a large margin) Whereas, Cosmos held the third ranking with just 5.8 million total viewers.
“Cosmos” space ping
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Didn’t have time to catch it last night. I was too busy eating squirrels.
Turned it off when they let Zer0 do the intro.
And this has been remade because???....Heck, why not? Probably totally government funded so why not waste the money like everyone else?
I did not know that. Moderator!!!Please delete!
I saw only a few minutes, so perhaps I am unfair — but what I saw was a lot of Church bashing and a lot of untruths about the suppression of science.
Sounds like the typical NPR-style the show emulates. Now, I’m beginning to feel really bad, guilty for posting this.
Sounds like the typical NPR-style the show emulates. Now, I’m beginning to feel really bad, guilty for posting this.
Good science stuff on the Science channel right now.
Narrated by Morgan Freeman but good anyway.
Freeper summary: Obama intro, blech!, host has long history of opposition to religious faith and organized religion, lengthy distortion of Enlightenment history and false account of life of Dominican monk Giorando Bruno, attacking the Catholic church as brutal and opposed to science. Bruno was executed because he was a pantheist, etc., not because he said stars were other suns. Interesting graphics between the indoctrination sessions. Neil DeGrasse Tyson’s bitter philosophy, widely available on Youtube, is now being unleased on the minds of Americas youth every week.
Personally I don’t expect any show about ‘science’ on TV to be of the slightest usefulness, or entertainment.
I have generous cause for that expectation.
“Co-executive producer of the Cosmos series, Seth MacFarlane ...”
How much of the show is going to be dedicated to misanthropy and global warming?
I can’t speak for science programs, but I will say that IMHO the show “Vikings” on the History Channel is the best programming that’s ever graced a television screen (and at least the first season was quite true to the real history).
I didn’t even care about the ‘original’ show. The tedious Sagan made it impossible to watch beyond the first three minutes
You can’t see her reflection!
Science is all settled, so why bother?
So, modern science is a process of consensus building, right? If we vote on a scientific principle, then it is true and cannot be challenged.
Therefore, if 900 out of 100 scientists believe that we can turn iron into gold, it must be true, correct?
I never did like that the scientific method was systematic in its observation, measurement, and experiment and the formulation, testing and modification of hypothesis.
Hypothesis: The world is heating up.
Observations and measurements: hidden e-mails and an unwillingness to share data, testing of different environments and comparing them to each other as though they are the same;
Experiment: Done completely with computer models with inadequate, incomplete and incorrect data as input.
“Galileo, its time for lunch!” OK, Mom! I’ll be right there!”
Well, that’s the straw that breaks this camel’s back. I’ll give ‘Vikings’ a try.
In return all I can reccommend is “Black Mirror”, a sardonic British ‘Twilight Zone’; and “Axe Cop”, a 5 year old’s cartoon-view of life and law which is astonishly refreshing.
Carl Sagan was IMHO, the Mister Rogers of Science -- maybe somewhat enlightening for people who were mostly ignorant of science, but he used that platform in his Cosmos series to push his far left political views. At that time, Sagan was pushing fears of a New Ice Age due to all that Capitalistic pollution. ;~))
I have no doubt the "New Cosmos" will push the current hard left scare story of Global Warming due to Capitalistic pollution just as hard as Sagan pushed the new ice age crap back in the 80s.
It would be nice to have just a science program that stuck with science without the partisan politics thrown in.
Probably too much to ask for anymore.
Carl Sagan opposed the War In Iraq because it would alter the word’s weather. He used science for political ends.
I thought the show was very well produced. I can’t wait to see the other 12 episodes. Makes me want to go back and watch the old version of the show too.
We need more science for the masses.
They lie about ALL history....it is ALL an extreme distortion. You have to actually go to “original” sources to find close to the Truth.
I run into the Galileo Lies all the time.........just like they call the Middle Ages the “Dark Ages”. The Catholic Church just told Galileo since he couldn’t “prove” his theory (which he couldn’t—and it was wrong anyhow with the circular orbits) was the “truth”, he needed to just call it a “theory”. There was a reason the Catholic Church did not claim “Truth” unless there was sufficient proof-—especially during the times of Martin Luther.
Watched the first 20, and fell asleep. Tyson is annoying. Is he a REAL astrophysicist, or an AA prop?
I watched some of “Cosmos” the first time around. Sagan was a pretentious leftist wimp. Most of the show was him saying “Look how smart I am.”
True science is honorable and worthy of respect because it allows the facts to speak and humbly accepts facts that destroy erroneous theories.
However, as government grows bigger and intrudes more into our lives, ideology takes over for economics and logic when it comes to even personal decisions. And thus in this era, we have “science” that is dishonorable lies. We have very smart people groveling at the feet of the government source of their next grant. We have ideology determining scientific truth.
Science, especially ecological and climate science is horribly corrupt. The only interest that I have in it is to see how they have made fools of themselves this week, and it would only be sad except some of this folly and madness seeps into government policy. We are, for example, headed for a collapse of the electric grid at the moment when we need it most (probably on the coldest night of the year), because government climate policy has force a lot of coal-fired power plants to be shut down. People will die due to lack of power more surely than they will die of global lukewarming.
During last season's "Vikings" I was struck by all the details in the sets (for example a golden chain that was strung around their most sacred temple), so I did a little research and found that everything I was noticing was historically accurate.
Cosmos was the most brutally anti-Christian piece of crap I have ever seen coughed up from the sewer in which Seth MacFarlane spawns. I tuned in for a CGI-fest about outer space, and got a cartoon about blood libel. I expected maybe the typical miscasting of Galileo as beign faith v Reason instead of Inductive v Deductive reasoning, and instead watched the madman paleo-new-ager Giordano Bruno, a pathetic opponent of reason and intellect, cast as the Messiah. And the science was stuck with Carl Sagan in 1980, while the space scenes were Star Wars, not science.
Never have I been so disappointed by a TV show.
Exactly. Here is how G.K. Chesterton put it——and he lived at the time of the Satanic George Bernard Shaw and all the Eugenicists/ Malthusians/ Postmodernists.
“...I have remarked that the materialist, like the madman, is in prison; in the prison of one thought. These people seemed to think it singularly inspiring to keep on saying that the prison was very large. The size of this scientific universe gave one no novelty, no relief. The Cosmos went on for ever, but not in the wildest constellation could there be really anything really interesting; anything, for instance, as forgiveness or Free Will. The grandeur or infinity of the secret of its cosmos added nothing to it...........nothing to show us but more and more infinite corridors of space lit by ghastly suns and empty of all that is divine.” p.86 Orthodoxy
Get the garlic powder!!!
Any astronauts space walkers, raise your hands, if you hear dramatic music while in space.
Incessant music and “universal tan”, and off goes the program here, no matter what.
Any reality of The Cosmos would constantly be refering to the following in the narrative:
“Psalms:19:1: The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
Psalms:19:2: Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.
Psalms:19:3: There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.
Psalms:19:4: Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,
Psalms:19:5: Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.
Psalms:19:6: His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.....”
Indeed. I think of that verse when viewing the Hubble Ultra Deep Field in 3D.
The UDF shows off God's creation in the most majestic way that I have ever seen.
Neil DeGrasse Tyson.
... I saw some of the first part and it looked like the same old same old. What turned me off was the “Star Wars” style asteroid belt. Why do they all do that? In fact all the visual effects were the usual cliches that are so familiar to us from the “billions and billions” of science shows that we can find airing almost any night. No thanks.
Beloved by the current global warming crowd- back then it was "nuclear winter", invented by Sagan. Pompous ass.
Ticked me off. First, they started with he who shall not be named (the community organizer) making a comment. Then of course the constant evil ignorant Christian bashing.
There was a least a ten minute cartoon segment when evil men with big crosses on their hats chased this freedom loving guy (Giordano Bruno) tortured him, and burnt him because he insisted the universe was infinite and the earth went around the sun. You know, I guess if you repeat a lie enough times people believe it.
Now granted, the Catholic church at the time was not a beacon of free and independent religious thought, but the reason Bruno ran into trouble was NOT his scientific ideas but because he ran around insisting that Christ was just a magician and other strange doctrine. He was on the Catholic church’s territory there, which is not wise. I mean, go over to Iran and try lecturing them nowadays about how Mohammed was just a magician and see where you end up. The show so totally misrepresented the facts I have to believe they had bad intent.
The idea that Galileo and Bruno and such were mostly persecuted because of their earth centric theories is not so. They got into trouble because they liked to make trouble by getting into personal scraps with powerful people (like the Pope) and arguing doctrine. It’s all revisionist history.
As posted to an earlier post:
Once the show got into the cartoon characters, I realized this is going to seriously suck.
I wondered why Zer0 would put his name on it!
But, then I realized that the recent poll, where 25% of Americans believe that the Sun revolves around the Earth;
and Bingo, we struck the Zer0 voting base; thus his pie-hole at the beginning and the cartoons!
A show directed toward idiots!
Because the kids love it.
It was a good show if you eliminate the unnecessary, awful, and inaccurate portion about Giordano Bruno.
We watched Cosmos and enjoyed its beauty and the wonder of the universe it presented, and the compressed calendar of time. But the series wrecked its credibility by presenting an inaccurate view of Giordano Bruno as a martyr for science. Bruno was not a scientist; he was not executed for science. He was a religious philosopher. It was his pantheist beliefs that got him into trouble.
Being so obviously wrong on the history of Bruno, and making him a martyr for science makes the entire series suspect as yet another propaganda tool of the left. We shall see.
Thanks lbryce, and no thanks. :’|
Neil deGrasse Tyson and Obama (and Bill Nye in this picture) on Cosmos Sunday
I think Tyson has been given orders to break the hold of religious faith on America’s blacks.
Masses? Are you sure you're in the right place?
Lefty Science bump for later......