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“Cosmos” Premiere: Does Society Care about Science? (Reboot of Show By Carl Sagan)
FRom Quarks to Quasars ^ | March 10, 2014 | Staff

Posted on 03/10/2014 7:42:21 PM PDT by lbryce

“Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey” premiered yesterday night.* This reboot is an update on the original series, which was produced by (possibly) the most beloved astronomer of the 20th century, the late Carl Sagan. The series initially ran in September of 1980, and Sagan subsequently turned it into a book. This was all 34 years ago. Even now, the words Sagan etched into his book are continuously shared across various social media outlets, which is a testament to truly how awe-inspiring the presentation was, and still is.

However, anyone who is familiar with science knows that it progresses at an amazing speed, so while Sagan’s series isn’t what one would call “inaccurate,” there is a lot of information that is missing or out-of-date. As such, astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson signed on to be the presenter for an update (or a continuation, if you will) to the series, which is meant to cover the same material as the original series, along with including the plethora of new knowledge that is based on the advances that we’ve made over the last three decades.

Tyson, along with Sagan’s widow, Ann Druyan, has been attempting to create a remake of the series ever since Sagan’s death in 1996. However, producers and TV executives believed that the series would not appeal to modern audiences. This is a rather alarming belief, especially when one considers that the original Cosmos remained one of the networks highest rated program for nearly a decade. Consequently one is forced to wonder: Has society really changed that much since the original premiere?

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I caught this too late for even the repeat of the new Reboot of "Cosmos" originally hosted by Carl Sagan at 10PM tonight but there's going to be a repeat of the premiere somewhere along the line so if it's something you'd enjoy seeing look out for it.

The new host is noted astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson, who holds his own against Carl Sagan, as an overall charming, congenial unofficial spokesman for science, astronomy cosmology and now host of the rebooted "Cosmos". Although I really doubt he's ever going to utter the term billyuns and billyuns...

The premiere of Cosmos will re-air tonight at 10 p.m. ET/PT on the National Geographic Channel and include some extra material on the making of the show. Check out some real science.

YouTube:Official Trailer:Cosmos Reboot:Fox

Last night, 13.3 million tuned in to the launch of ABC’s ”Resurrection,” a show about the dead returning to life, while the “The Walking Dead,” another show about the dead coming back to life (with a lot more bloods and guts), aired in the same time-slot. The ratings haven’t been made public yet, but the number certainly surpassed 10 million viewers (the ratings-powerhouse manged to surpass the closing ceremonies of the Sochi Olympics by a large margin) Whereas, Cosmos held the third ranking with just 5.8 million total viewers.

1 posted on 03/10/2014 7:42:21 PM PDT by lbryce
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To: SunkenCiv

“Cosmos” space ping


2 posted on 03/10/2014 7:43:09 PM PDT by lbryce (Obama:The Worst is Yet To Come)
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To: lbryce

Bammy has squandered Trillion$ and Trillion$.


3 posted on 03/10/2014 7:43:21 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: lbryce

Didn’t have time to catch it last night. I was too busy eating squirrels.


4 posted on 03/10/2014 7:44:23 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: lbryce
and this has been remade because??? follow the money
5 posted on 03/10/2014 7:44:54 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: lbryce

Turned it off when they let Zer0 do the intro.


6 posted on 03/10/2014 7:45:38 PM PDT by mykroar (We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again. - Nathanael Greene)
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To: Chode

And this has been remade because???....Heck, why not? Probably totally government funded so why not waste the money like everyone else?


7 posted on 03/10/2014 7:47:39 PM PDT by lbryce (Obama:The Worst is Yet To Come)
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To: mykroar

I did not know that. Moderator!!!Please delete!


8 posted on 03/10/2014 7:48:34 PM PDT by lbryce (Obama:The Worst is Yet To Come)
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To: lbryce

I saw only a few minutes, so perhaps I am unfair — but what I saw was a lot of Church bashing and a lot of untruths about the suppression of science.


9 posted on 03/10/2014 7:48:35 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: ClearCase_guy

Sounds like the typical NPR-style the show emulates. Now, I’m beginning to feel really bad, guilty for posting this.


10 posted on 03/10/2014 7:50:35 PM PDT by lbryce (Obama:The Worst is Yet To Come)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Sounds like the typical NPR-style the show emulates. Now, I’m beginning to feel really bad, guilty for posting this.


11 posted on 03/10/2014 7:50:38 PM PDT by lbryce (Obama:The Worst is Yet To Come)
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To: lbryce

Good science stuff on the Science channel right now.

Narrated by Morgan Freeman but good anyway.


12 posted on 03/10/2014 7:52:53 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: lbryce

Can I guest host? I bought this special canvas potato sack just for the occasion.
13 posted on 03/10/2014 7:55:44 PM PDT by lbryce (Obama:The Worst is Yet To Come)
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To: lbryce
yup, that's why i said follow the money... prolly a giant RAT give away jobs program
14 posted on 03/10/2014 7:56:13 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: lbryce

Freeper summary: Obama intro, blech!, host has long history of opposition to religious faith and organized religion, lengthy distortion of Enlightenment history and false account of life of Dominican monk Giorando Bruno, attacking the Catholic church as brutal and opposed to science. Bruno was executed because he was a pantheist, etc., not because he said stars were other suns. Interesting graphics between the indoctrination sessions. Neil DeGrasse Tyson’s bitter philosophy, widely available on Youtube, is now being unleased on the minds of Americas youth every week.


15 posted on 03/10/2014 8:02:20 PM PDT by Kennard
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To: lbryce

Personally I don’t expect any show about ‘science’ on TV to be of the slightest usefulness, or entertainment.
I have generous cause for that expectation.

“Co-executive producer of the Cosmos series, Seth MacFarlane ...”
LOL!


16 posted on 03/10/2014 8:04:00 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: lbryce

How much of the show is going to be dedicated to misanthropy and global warming?


17 posted on 03/10/2014 8:10:45 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: mrsmith

I can’t speak for science programs, but I will say that IMHO the show “Vikings” on the History Channel is the best programming that’s ever graced a television screen (and at least the first season was quite true to the real history).


18 posted on 03/10/2014 8:11:25 PM PDT by The Duke ("Forgiveness is between them and God, it's my job to arrange the meeting.")
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To: lbryce

phhhhtttttt

I didn’t even care about the ‘original’ show. The tedious Sagan made it impossible to watch beyond the first three minutes


19 posted on 03/10/2014 8:12:06 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: lbryce

You can’t see her reflection!


20 posted on 03/10/2014 8:18:00 PM PDT by PTBAA
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To: lbryce

Science is all settled, so why bother?


21 posted on 03/10/2014 8:19:47 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: lbryce

So, modern science is a process of consensus building, right? If we vote on a scientific principle, then it is true and cannot be challenged.

Therefore, if 900 out of 100 scientists believe that we can turn iron into gold, it must be true, correct?

I never did like that the scientific method was systematic in its observation, measurement, and experiment and the formulation, testing and modification of hypothesis.

Hypothesis: The world is heating up.
Observations and measurements: hidden e-mails and an unwillingness to share data, testing of different environments and comparing them to each other as though they are the same;
Experiment: Done completely with computer models with inadequate, incomplete and incorrect data as input.
...
“Galileo, its time for lunch!” OK, Mom! I’ll be right there!”


22 posted on 03/10/2014 8:21:01 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: lbryce
Carl Sagan fits the politically correct profile of the Communists running this country. Science programs like Cosmos can be used to manipulate the Zer0 Info-bots into thinking the Creator is irrelevant and that the smart elites know better than the little people who pray. The elite gods know better and will show us the road to the fantasy land on the Unicorn Farm. This may be the show that shoves Man Made Global Warming down our throats along with all the other enviroweenie poppycock.
23 posted on 03/10/2014 8:25:07 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: mrsmith
"Personally I don't expect any show about 'science' on TV to be of the slightest usefulness, or entertainment."

HERETIC!!

MYTHBUSTERS

24 posted on 03/10/2014 8:27:43 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: The Duke

Well, that’s the straw that breaks this camel’s back. I’ll give ‘Vikings’ a try.

In return all I can reccommend is “Black Mirror”, a sardonic British ‘Twilight Zone’; and “Axe Cop”, a 5 year old’s cartoon-view of life and law which is astonishly refreshing.


25 posted on 03/10/2014 8:29:18 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: lbryce
“Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey” premiered yesterday night.* This reboot is an update on the original series, which was produced by (possibly) the most beloved astronomer of the 20th century, the late Carl Sagan.

Carl Sagan was IMHO, the Mister Rogers of Science -- maybe somewhat enlightening for people who were mostly ignorant of science, but he used that platform in his Cosmos series to push his far left political views. At that time, Sagan was pushing fears of a New Ice Age due to all that Capitalistic pollution. ;~))

I have no doubt the "New Cosmos" will push the current hard left scare story of Global Warming due to Capitalistic pollution just as hard as Sagan pushed the new ice age crap back in the 80s.

It would be nice to have just a science program that stuck with science without the partisan politics thrown in.

Probably too much to ask for anymore.

26 posted on 03/10/2014 8:38:04 PM PDT by Ditto
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To: lbryce

Carl Sagan opposed the War In Iraq because it would alter the word’s weather. He used science for political ends.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_winter


27 posted on 03/10/2014 8:40:49 PM PDT by preacher (I am not a global warming hoax denier.)
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To: lbryce

I thought the show was very well produced. I can’t wait to see the other 12 episodes. Makes me want to go back and watch the old version of the show too.
We need more science for the masses.


28 posted on 03/10/2014 8:43:56 PM PDT by christx30 (Freedom above all.)
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To: Kennard

They lie about ALL history....it is ALL an extreme distortion. You have to actually go to “original” sources to find close to the Truth.

I run into the Galileo Lies all the time.........just like they call the Middle Ages the “Dark Ages”. The Catholic Church just told Galileo since he couldn’t “prove” his theory (which he couldn’t—and it was wrong anyhow with the circular orbits) was the “truth”, he needed to just call it a “theory”. There was a reason the Catholic Church did not claim “Truth” unless there was sufficient proof-—especially during the times of Martin Luther.

http://www.catholic.com/tracts/the-galileo-controversy


29 posted on 03/10/2014 8:47:07 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: lbryce

Watched the first 20, and fell asleep. Tyson is annoying. Is he a REAL astrophysicist, or an AA prop?


30 posted on 03/10/2014 8:47:54 PM PDT by montag813
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To: lbryce

I watched some of “Cosmos” the first time around. Sagan was a pretentious leftist wimp. Most of the show was him saying “Look how smart I am.”


31 posted on 03/10/2014 8:48:50 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: lbryce

True science is honorable and worthy of respect because it allows the facts to speak and humbly accepts facts that destroy erroneous theories.

However, as government grows bigger and intrudes more into our lives, ideology takes over for economics and logic when it comes to even personal decisions. And thus in this era, we have “science” that is dishonorable lies. We have very smart people groveling at the feet of the government source of their next grant. We have ideology determining scientific truth.

Science, especially ecological and climate science is horribly corrupt. The only interest that I have in it is to see how they have made fools of themselves this week, and it would only be sad except some of this folly and madness seeps into government policy. We are, for example, headed for a collapse of the electric grid at the moment when we need it most (probably on the coldest night of the year), because government climate policy has force a lot of coal-fired power plants to be shut down. People will die due to lack of power more surely than they will die of global lukewarming.


32 posted on 03/10/2014 8:54:51 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: mrsmith
Thx for the recommendation ... I'll keep my eyes open for it. :)

During last season's "Vikings" I was struck by all the details in the sets (for example a golden chain that was strung around their most sacred temple), so I did a little research and found that everything I was noticing was historically accurate.

33 posted on 03/10/2014 8:54:58 PM PDT by The Duke ("Forgiveness is between them and God, it's my job to arrange the meeting.")
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To: lbryce

Cosmos was the most brutally anti-Christian piece of crap I have ever seen coughed up from the sewer in which Seth MacFarlane spawns. I tuned in for a CGI-fest about outer space, and got a cartoon about blood libel. I expected maybe the typical miscasting of Galileo as beign faith v Reason instead of Inductive v Deductive reasoning, and instead watched the madman paleo-new-ager Giordano Bruno, a pathetic opponent of reason and intellect, cast as the Messiah. And the science was stuck with Carl Sagan in 1980, while the space scenes were Star Wars, not science.

Never have I been so disappointed by a TV show.


34 posted on 03/10/2014 9:15:57 PM PDT by dangus
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To: jonrick46

Exactly. Here is how G.K. Chesterton put it——and he lived at the time of the Satanic George Bernard Shaw and all the Eugenicists/ Malthusians/ Postmodernists.

“...I have remarked that the materialist, like the madman, is in prison; in the prison of one thought. These people seemed to think it singularly inspiring to keep on saying that the prison was very large. The size of this scientific universe gave one no novelty, no relief. The Cosmos went on for ever, but not in the wildest constellation could there be really anything really interesting; anything, for instance, as forgiveness or Free Will. The grandeur or infinity of the secret of its cosmos added nothing to it...........nothing to show us but more and more infinite corridors of space lit by ghastly suns and empty of all that is divine.” p.86 Orthodoxy


35 posted on 03/10/2014 9:18:45 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: PTBAA

Get the garlic powder!!!


36 posted on 03/10/2014 9:19:32 PM PDT by lbryce (Obama:The Worst is Yet To Come)
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To: lbryce

Any astronauts space walkers, raise your hands, if you hear dramatic music while in space.

Incessant music and “universal tan”, and off goes the program here, no matter what.

Lucifer’s kingdom.

Any reality of The Cosmos would constantly be refering to the following in the narrative:

“Psalms:19:1: The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
Psalms:19:2: Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.
Psalms:19:3: There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.
Psalms:19:4: Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,
Psalms:19:5: Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.
Psalms:19:6: His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.....”


37 posted on 03/10/2014 9:20:40 PM PDT by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: Varsity Flight
Psalms 19:1: The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

Indeed. I think of that verse when viewing the Hubble Ultra Deep Field in 3D.

The UDF shows off God's creation in the most majestic way that I have ever seen.

38 posted on 03/10/2014 9:30:09 PM PDT by Gideon7
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To: cripplecreek

Neil DeGrasse Tyson.

... I saw some of the first part and it looked like the same old same old. What turned me off was the “Star Wars” style asteroid belt. Why do they all do that? In fact all the visual effects were the usual cliches that are so familiar to us from the “billions and billions” of science shows that we can find airing almost any night. No thanks.


39 posted on 03/10/2014 9:39:16 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: lbryce
" (possibly) the most beloved astronomer of the 20th century, the late Carl Sagan."

Beloved by the current global warming crowd- back then it was "nuclear winter", invented by Sagan. Pompous ass.

40 posted on 03/10/2014 10:02:11 PM PDT by matthew fuller (No, I don't miss GWB- I miss Dick Cheney and Don Rumsfeld.)
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To: lbryce

Ticked me off. First, they started with he who shall not be named (the community organizer) making a comment. Then of course the constant evil ignorant Christian bashing.

There was a least a ten minute cartoon segment when evil men with big crosses on their hats chased this freedom loving guy (Giordano Bruno) tortured him, and burnt him because he insisted the universe was infinite and the earth went around the sun. You know, I guess if you repeat a lie enough times people believe it.

Now granted, the Catholic church at the time was not a beacon of free and independent religious thought, but the reason Bruno ran into trouble was NOT his scientific ideas but because he ran around insisting that Christ was just a magician and other strange doctrine. He was on the Catholic church’s territory there, which is not wise. I mean, go over to Iran and try lecturing them nowadays about how Mohammed was just a magician and see where you end up. The show so totally misrepresented the facts I have to believe they had bad intent.

The idea that Galileo and Bruno and such were mostly persecuted because of their earth centric theories is not so. They got into trouble because they liked to make trouble by getting into personal scraps with powerful people (like the Pope) and arguing doctrine. It’s all revisionist history.


41 posted on 03/10/2014 10:03:39 PM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: lbryce

As posted to an earlier post:


Once the show got into the cartoon characters, I realized this is going to seriously suck.

I wondered why Zer0 would put his name on it!

But, then I realized that the recent poll, where 25% of Americans believe that the Sun revolves around the Earth;

and Bingo, we struck the Zer0 voting base; thus his pie-hole at the beginning and the cartoons!

A show directed toward idiots!


42 posted on 03/10/2014 10:10:00 PM PDT by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: dr_lew

Because the kids love it.


43 posted on 03/10/2014 10:17:38 PM PDT by lbryce (Obama:The Worst is Yet To Come)
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To: christx30
I thought the show was very well produced. I can’t wait to see the other 12 episodes. Makes me want to go back and watch the old version of the show too. We need more science for the masses.

It was a good show if you eliminate the unnecessary, awful, and inaccurate portion about Giordano Bruno.

We watched Cosmos and enjoyed its beauty and the wonder of the universe it presented, and the compressed calendar of time. But the series wrecked its credibility by presenting an inaccurate view of Giordano Bruno as a martyr for science. Bruno was not a scientist; he was not executed for science. He was a religious philosopher. It was his pantheist beliefs that got him into trouble.

Being so obviously wrong on the history of Bruno, and making him a martyr for science makes the entire series suspect as yet another propaganda tool of the left. We shall see.

44 posted on 03/11/2014 3:10:56 AM PDT by olezip (Time obliterates the fictions of opinion and confirms the decisions of nature. ~ Cicero)
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Neil deGrasse Tyson on the show "The Big Bang Theory"

45 posted on 03/11/2014 3:55:27 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: lbryce; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks lbryce, and no thanks. :’|

Neil deGrasse Tyson and Obama (and Bill Nye in this picture) on Cosmos Sunday
http://guardianlv.com/2014/03/neil-degrasse-tyson-and-obama-on-cosmos-sunday/


46 posted on 03/11/2014 3:59:17 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: lbryce
Now, I’m beginning to feel really bad, guilty for posting this.


47 posted on 03/11/2014 4:58:54 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: montag813

I think Tyson has been given orders to break the hold of religious faith on America’s blacks.


48 posted on 03/11/2014 5:03:28 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: christx30
We need more science for the masses.

Masses? Are you sure you're in the right place?

49 posted on 03/11/2014 5:05:56 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: lbryce

Lefty Science bump for later......


50 posted on 03/11/2014 9:43:18 AM PDT by indthkr
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