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Hoping to isolate Russia, US woos China on Ukraine
Associated Press ^ | Mar. 10, 2014 8:17 PM EDT | Matthew Lee and Julie Pace

Posted on 03/10/2014 8:48:33 PM PDT by Olog-hai

The Obama administration is stepping up its attempts to court China’s support for isolating Russia over its military intervention in Ukraine.

With official comments from China appearing studiously neutral since the Ukraine crisis began, President Barack Obama spoke to Chinese President Xi Jinping late Sunday in a bid to get Beijing off the fence.

The call was their first known conversation since Russian forces took control of Ukraine’s pro-Moscow Crimea region. It came amid signals that Russian President Vladimir Putin was hardening his position on Crimea, which is due to vote on joining Russia in a referendum this weekend that the U.S. and its allies have vowed not to recognize.

In making his case, Obama appealed to China’s well-known and vehement opposition to outside intervention in other nations’ domestic affairs, according to a White House statement.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: china; redchina; toolate; ukraine

1 posted on 03/10/2014 8:48:33 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

LOL

Funny.

China will reassert it’s claim to siberia in 20 years.p


2 posted on 03/10/2014 8:51:27 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Olog-hai

Naval bases in the Crimea ( river) are easily controlled by Turkey.


3 posted on 03/10/2014 8:52:27 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Vendome

I have this image of the entire Chinese diplomatic corps rolling on the floor laughing their asses off right now.


4 posted on 03/10/2014 8:54:53 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Vendome

Nixon he ain’t. China enjoys its relationship with Russia. Both excuse the other’s seizure of territory.


5 posted on 03/10/2014 8:56:32 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Olog-hai

The world is a lot better off when he plays golf (or visits that bath house).


6 posted on 03/10/2014 8:56:53 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (")
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To: Viennacon

I wouldn’t call what Nixon did a diplomatic success either. All he did was crown the new champion of world communism.


7 posted on 03/10/2014 8:59:28 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

In a multi polar world (US, EU, China, India, Russia, Brazil) the first two powers fight will lose. The US can learn from China. When the US petitioned the UN to invade Iraq for the second time, Russia protested vehemently, but China response was muted. She declared that peace was preferred over invasion and all parties should seek a political solution. The US thought China did not care about Iraq, in reality she set a political tone so the US would leap into Iraq because China figure it would become a quagmire for the US. It turned out to be true. IED, ROE and repeated deployments sapped the US forces, and treasury. China is repeating the strategy today. Let the US and Russia fight. If Russia loses she would be forced to be more dependent on China for cash. If Russia wins, the US is weakened and China is in a much better position to expand her claims in Asia. Do not forget, China and Russia are natural enemies. Today they need each other to balance against US dominance. If US is diminished, both will re align themselves. Right now China chose the “monkey on the rock watching two lions fight” approach to world conflict.


8 posted on 03/10/2014 8:59:58 PM PDT by Fee ( Big Gov and Big Business are Enemies of America)
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To: Olog-hai
Oh come on. Does Obama think China actually believes that claptrap?
9 posted on 03/10/2014 9:01:17 PM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: Olog-hai

Ah, but he did drive a wedge between the Soviets and the Chinese, which was useful. the Soviets might have lasted longer had relations with China not taken a turn for the worse


10 posted on 03/10/2014 9:01:34 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Lurker

No Shiite!

LOL!!!


11 posted on 03/10/2014 9:03:14 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Olog-hai

12 posted on 03/10/2014 9:05:11 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Viennacon

All for naught, since technically the Soviets are back.


13 posted on 03/10/2014 9:06:25 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Fee

It’s not like Sun Tzu’s “Art Of War” is out of print. They’ve been using it against the USA for decades, especially the bit about breaking your enemy’s resistance without fighting.

Learning Maoism from China is what the politicians in DC decided to study instead.


14 posted on 03/10/2014 9:08:03 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Yeah, that’ll work. Full-on idiots.


15 posted on 03/10/2014 9:08:12 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: Olog-hai

Is this SOB really that stupid to believe that China will listen to his worthless drivel? This man child has got to be the biggest dumb M EFFER ever to hold any office in the Noor Loch, and that is saying a lot, since there are tons of dumb asses there.


16 posted on 03/10/2014 9:09:37 PM PDT by crz
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To: crz

China does not care about Ukraine


17 posted on 03/10/2014 9:13:53 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL

Correct, and, they do not give a rats ass about Obama.
So China will have a good belly laugh at his drivel.


18 posted on 03/10/2014 9:19:09 PM PDT by crz
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To: crz

Or they will try to figure out how to get an advantage out of this


19 posted on 03/10/2014 9:20:30 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Viennacon
"...the Soviets might have lasted longer had relations with China not taken a turn for the worse"

China would have provided USSR enough grain, took care of OPEC which was putting a "crimp" on the Soviet Caspian industry (Which the Soviets still could not figure out how to extract sufficiently), subsidized the loses caused by Chernobyl, and solved the enigma of Pershing II weapons that had a 6 minute trip to Moscow/targeted Soviet military outposts? My, a weak China, without access to US markets, would of been generous neighbor.

I would take a self-imploding/limping Soviet Empire over subsidizing, trading, and resurrecting a "sleeping "giant" dragon" any day.
20 posted on 03/10/2014 9:22:50 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Olog-hai

Putin needs to be able to “Sanctions Bust”. If he has his puppet states and his allies take a neutral stance, it is far less likely that we will target them with similar “revolutions”, sanctions, or other direct actions. It also allows Putin to bypass any sanctions put on his country. Remember that Putin plays chess while Obama plays marbles.


21 posted on 03/10/2014 9:23:24 PM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: Olog-hai

Actually Obama may indeed have some leverage.

China is currently running a (massive) trade surplus with the United States.

318 billion I believe, in 2013.

That is some serious leverage. Just saying.


22 posted on 03/10/2014 9:23:55 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ( http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Vendome

China will go after Taiwan.


23 posted on 03/10/2014 9:27:19 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Olog-hai
Hoping?

Is that that Hopey Changey Thingy again?

24 posted on 03/10/2014 9:27:27 PM PDT by McGruff (Republicans need to show Obama some RSPECT.)
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To: Olog-hai

If Hussein made a comment about a checkers game, I’d check the official rules; Hussein doesn’t know jack s**t about anything.


25 posted on 03/10/2014 9:30:51 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: GeronL
Look out Tibet and "Taiwan" (PRC "complete" control), you might be going


26 posted on 03/10/2014 9:31:04 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: rollo tomasi

Bump


27 posted on 03/10/2014 9:33:22 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL

Oh hell ya! Especially since dumb ass opened his big mouth and stuck his foot in it. He crawled to the Chinese? What an idiot.


28 posted on 03/10/2014 9:34:13 PM PDT by crz
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To: VerySadAmerican

Prolly ....


29 posted on 03/10/2014 9:40:56 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: crz

Bump


30 posted on 03/10/2014 9:42:17 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Didn’t know Obama was General Secretary of the CPC.


31 posted on 03/10/2014 10:33:14 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

I would just love see the Dalai Lama whack Obama upside the head


32 posted on 03/10/2014 10:33:30 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of ingtheir political choices.")
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

LOL.


33 posted on 03/10/2014 11:25:42 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Olog-hai

Like Russia really cares what the Red Chinese think...


34 posted on 03/11/2014 3:25:59 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Olog-hai

So Obama is going to rely on China now? Goodbye Taiwan


35 posted on 03/11/2014 4:25:52 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Olog-hai

Russian Chinese relationship will be very interesting to watch in the next six months.


36 posted on 03/11/2014 6:30:49 AM PDT by brooklyn dave
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To: brooklyn dave

They’ve been doing joint military exercises for close to a decade now. Not a relationship at arm’s length.


37 posted on 03/11/2014 7:40:19 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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