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20 Facts About The Great U.S. Retail Apocalypse That Will Blow Your Mind
The Economic Collapse ^ | March 9, 2014 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 03/11/2014 12:24:53 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

If the U.S. economy is getting better, then why are major retail chains closing thousands of stores? If we truly are in an "economic recovery", then why do sales figures continue to go down for large retailers all over the country? Without a doubt, the rise of Internet retailing giants such as Amazon.com have had a huge impact. Today, there are millions of Americans that actually prefer to shop online. Personally, when I published my novel I made it solely available on Amazon. But Internet shopping alone does not account for the great retail apocalypse that we are witnessing. In fact, some retail experts estimate that the Internet has accounted for only about 20 percent of the decline that we are seeing. Most of the rest of it can be accounted for by the slow, steady death of the middle class U.S. consumer. Median household income has declined for five years in a row, but all of our bills just keep going up. That means that the amount of disposable income that average Americans have continues to shrink, and that is really bad news for retailers.

And sadly, this is just the beginning. Retail experts are projecting that the pace of store closings will actually accelerate over the course of the next decade.

So as you read this list below, please take note that things will soon get even worse.

The following are 20 facts about the great U.S. retail apocalypse that will blow your mind...

#1 As you read this article, approximately a billion square feet of retail space is sitting vacant in the United States.

#2 Last week, Radio Shack announced that it was going to close more than a thousand stores.

#3 Last week, Staples announced that it was going to close 225 stores.

#4 Same-store sales at Office Depot have declined for 13 quarters in a row.

#5 J.C. Penney has been dying for years, and it recently announced plans to close 33 more stores.

#6 J.C. Penney lost 586 million dollars during the second quarter of 2013 alone.

#7 Sears has closed about 300 stores since 2010, and CNN is reporting that Sears is "expected to shutter another 500 Sears and Kmart locations soon".

#8 Overall, sales numbers have declined at Sears for 27 quarters in a row.

#9 Target has announced that it is going to eliminate 475 jobs and not fill 700 positions that are currently empty.

#10 It is being projected that Aéropostale will close about 175 stores over the next couple of years.

#11 Macy's has announced that it is going to be closing five stores and eliminating 2,500 jobs.

#12 The Children’s Place has announced that it will be closing down 125 of its "weakest" stores by 2016.

#13 Best Buy recently shut down about 50 stores up in Canada.

#14 Video rental giant Blockbuster has completely shut down all of their stores.

#15 It is being projected that sales at U.S. supermarkets will decline by 1.7 percent this year even as the overall population continues to grow.

#16 McDonald's has reported that sales at established U.S. locations were down 3.3 percent in January.

#17 A home appliance chain known as "American TV" in the Midwest is going to be shutting down all 11 stores.

#18 Even Wal-Mart is struggling right now. Just check out what one very prominent Wal-Mart executive recently admitted...

David Cheesewright, CEO of Walmart International was speaking at the same presentation, and he pointed out that Walmart would try to protect its market share in the US – where the company had just issued an earnings warning. But most of the growth would have to come from its units outside the US. I mean, via these share buybacks?

Alas, outside the US too, economies were limping along at best, and consumers were struggling and the operating environment was tough. "We're seeing economies under stress pretty much everywhere we operate," Cheesewright admitted.

#19 In a recent CNBC article entitled "Time to close Wal-Mart stores? Analysts think so", it was recommended that Wal-Mart should close approximately 100 "underperforming" supercenters in rural locations across America.

#20 Retail consultant Howard Davidowitz is projecting that up to half of all shopping malls in America may shut down within the next 15 to 20 years...

Within 15 to 20 years, retail consultant Howard Davidowitz expects as many as half of America's shopping malls to fail. He predicts that only upscale shopping centers with anchors like Saks Fifth Avenue and Neiman Marcus will survive.

So is there any hope that things will turn around?

Well, if the U.S. economy started producing large numbers of good paying middle class jobs there would definitely be cause for optimism.

Unfortunately, that is just not happening.

On Friday, we were told that the U.S. economy added 175,000 jobs during the month of February.

That sounds pretty good until you realize that it takes almost that many jobs each month just to keep up with population growth.

And according to CNS News, the number of unemployed Americans actually grew faster than the number of employed Americans in February...

The number of unemployed individuals 16 years and over increased by 223,000 in February, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS).

In February, there were 10,459,000 unemployed individuals age 16 and over, which was up 223,000 from January, when there were 10,236,000 unemployed individuals.

Meanwhile, the labor force participation rate continues to sit at a 35 year low, and a staggering 70 percent of all Americans not in the labor force are below the age of 55.

That is outrageous.

And things look particularly depressing when you look at the labor force participation rate for men by themselves.

In 1950, the labor force participation rate for men was sitting at about 87 percent. Today, it has dropped beneath 70 percent to a brand new all-time record low.

The truth is that there simply are not enough jobs for everyone anymore.

The chart posted below shows how the percentage of working age Americans that actually have a job has changed since the turn of the millennium. As you can see, the employment-population ratio declined precipitously during the last recession, and it has stayed below 59 percent since late 2009...

If we were going to have a "recovery", we should have had one by now.

Since there are not enough jobs, what is happening is that more highly educated workers are taking the jobs that were once occupied by less educated workers and bumping them out of the labor force entirely. The following is an excerpt from a recent Bloomberg article...

Recent college graduates are ending up in more low-wage and part-time positions as it's become harder to find education-level appropriate jobs, according to a January study by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.

The share of Americans ages 22 to 27 with at least a bachelor's degree in jobs that don't require that level of education was 44 percent in 2012, up from 34 percent in 2001, the study found.

Due to the fact that there are not enough middle class jobs to go around, the middle class has been steadily shrinking.

In 2008, 53 percent of all Americans considered themselves to be "middle class". Today, only 44 percent of all Americans consider themselves to be "middle class".

That is a pretty significant shift in just six years, don't you think?

For much more on this, please see my previous article entitled "28 Signs That The Middle Class Is Heading Toward Extinction".

Despite what the politicians and the mainstream media are telling you, the truth is that something is fundamentally wrong with our economy.

On a gut level, most people realize this.

According to one recent survey, only 35 percent of all Americans say that they are better off financially than they were a year ago. And according to a recent NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll, only 28 percent of all Americans believe that this country is moving in the right direction.

The frightening thing is that this is about as good as things are going to get. The next great wave of the economic collapse is approaching, and when it strikes the plight of the middle class is going to get a whole lot worse.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: economy; obama; obamanomics; recession; retail; unemployment
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1 posted on 03/11/2014 12:24:53 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

But Obama manages to keep the public talk locked on Ukraine, global warming, homos in Russia, bombing Syria,,,, ANYTHING except the facts in this story, or of Obamacare.


2 posted on 03/11/2014 12:35:55 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I agree with the general premise of the article, but I should mention that in my area a Nordstrom Rack and a new costco were opened.

Problem with stuff like this article is that they sometimes forget to include the stores that are doing better. The US government had to buy out GM, but Ford was (and is) thriving.


3 posted on 03/11/2014 12:40:52 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

#14 Video rental giant Blockbuster has completely shut down all of their stores.


Apparently their buggy whips have fallen out of favor.


4 posted on 03/11/2014 12:41:36 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: cuban leaf; All

Actually GM bought back a lot of it’s shares and last I heard was doing reasonably well. If the big money boys cannot sell their wares, perhaps they will lower their own salaries and pay their workers better so they can afford to buy. Also, people have so much STUFF that we have a 700 mile yard sale in the mid south/central, and another 70 mile yeard sale somewhere else.


5 posted on 03/11/2014 12:51:32 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Let’s not forget while we are all forced to buy obamacare Sandra Fluck will get free birth control.


6 posted on 03/11/2014 12:54:44 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: gleeaikin

Also, people have so much STUFF that we have a 700 mile yard sale in the mid south/central, and another 70 mile yeard sale somewhere else.


Yep. We have one that goes right through our town here in KY. It’s the “400 mile” yard sale. It’s lame, and I’ll tell you why: In Seattle, where we lived for decades, we discovered that the affluence level was such that nobody wants people’s throwaways. The last year we were there, pretty much every non-food item we got was from garage sales, craigslist or estate sales. And estate sales are the BEST. We bought items for pennies on the dollar. We considered it fiscally irresponsible to buy many items new.

Now fast forward to KY. Rural KY is, in some ways, like living in a third world country. People are definitely poorer here. And the real estate taxes and cost of living are so low that you can live on ridiculously low income. But it means a huge part of the population shops at garage sales and “Peddlers’ mall”. This results in a peculiar supply and demand formula.

i.e. stuff is WAY too expensive at garage sales to even bother. Some stuff is more expensive than new, and a fair amount of it (much worse than in Seattle) just needs to go to the dump.

We stopped wasting our time.


7 posted on 03/11/2014 12:57:16 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This simply isn’t possible. MY TV has been telling me for years that the Obama economy is fantastic! Why, just look at the DOW!!
(look at anything else, though, and you might be a racist.)


8 posted on 03/11/2014 12:58:30 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
RECOVERY SCHMEKOVERY....HASN'T THIS DUNCE EVERY HEARD OF THE CONCEPT OF TRENDING? YEP...TRENDING FOLKS... YOU HEARD ME..... TRENDING DAMMIT!...

YOU SEE GENTLE READER WE ARE KNEE DEEP IN THE ERA OF HUXLEY HUCKSTERING LIBSPEAK ...CURRENTLY, YOU DO NOT ACTUALLY EFFIN HAVE TO BE IN A RECOVERY ALL YOU EFFIN HAVE TO DO IS JUST SAY YOU ARE TRENDING TOWARD A RECOVERY SOMETIMES IT'S CALLED 'BENDING THE ARC' .....IT'S PARA NORMAL....AND I FOR ONE THINK IT'S THE WAY TO GO. FOR IF YOU JUST SAY IT'S SO ....THEN BY DAMN IT MAGICALLY BECOMES SO...OR SOMETHING.

....THINK ABOUT IT YOU WANT YOUR ARC BENT? THEN VOTE DEMOCRO...I RELEASE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME...


9 posted on 03/11/2014 1:16:54 AM PDT by jimsin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Much of tthis list is anecdotal as consumer spending has shifted to online purchasing. We don’t even go to PetSmart anymore, since the kitty food is cheaper in online bulk. I can’t remember the last time i went Christmas shopping at a mall, yet, my spending is the same. I remember the kids at Blockbuster, two years before my favorite store’s demise, asking me not less than three times every time I was at the checkout to sign up for their online services. One day, I finally got annoyed and asked “you DO realize that your trying to sell away your own job, right?”. He replied “oh no, Blockbuster just wants you to have the option of finding other movies that we don’t carry. “Uh uh.

Another anecdote... At least our area restaurants are still really packed on the weekends...for now... B-HO’s carnage has still yet to be seen as it’s masked by social support.


10 posted on 03/11/2014 1:46:50 AM PDT by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: LittleBillyInfidel

One thing that isn’t mentioned in relation to the death of America’s middle class is the impact the male unemployment rate is playing. When it became acceptable to discriminate against white/Asian men in college admissions (and hiring/promoting), the women who took many of those jobs have also foregone children (for a variety of reasons, whether by their choice or the prospective mates’ choices); the American middle class is literally dying out as no successive generation is born (though we have imported some foreign replacements). What use does the average American have for so many things that were staples in our youth, such as diapers, children’s clothing, toys, etc.?

As long as these demographic trends continue, one needs look no further than the Xanadu mall here in northern NJ to see the future of retail: A massive mall, completed years ago (complete with indoor ski slope), that never opened, while in its shadow every Saturday at the Meadowlands Flea Market Americans sell their household goods and tools of their former trades to imported replacement Americans who pay strictly with the cash with which they are paid.


11 posted on 03/11/2014 3:06:31 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: jimsin

Um... What was that?


12 posted on 03/11/2014 3:14:02 AM PDT by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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To: cuban leaf

It’s the rewind fees that kept me away from blockbuster.


13 posted on 03/11/2014 3:15:06 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: raybbr

Boon: Forget it. He’s rolling.


14 posted on 03/11/2014 3:22:46 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I must disagree with this fellow. Internet shopping does account for the “great retail apocalypse”. When you can get all your media online, why would you shop for it? I can’t count the last time I went to a Radio Shack, or an office products store, or J. C. Penny, or Sears. A lot of jobs at Wal-Mart and Target are being replaced by automation. The low prices offered by internet retailers and the big-box stores murder anything offered by small or medium businesses.

Frankly, what strikes me as bogus is #14, about Blockbuster. Who even goes to Blockbuster anymore? You have the internet, you have Netflix, and you have Red Box, all of which provide faster and cheaper service with less hassle. Don’t have to worry much about late fees.

Unless you’re running a hobbyist place or some specialty thing, having retail space is just plain getting to be obsolete. I wouldn’t start any new retail business with it. I’d keep it internet only, save on capital outlay.


15 posted on 03/11/2014 3:23:56 AM PDT by GAFreedom (Freedom rings in GA!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That graph you posted is terribly designed, makes a 4% drop look like 100%. The employment situation is bad enough when presented accurately, does not need a misleading graphic to make the point.


16 posted on 03/11/2014 3:29:52 AM PDT by Eric Pode of Croydon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We live in Central Kentucky and for that matter way out in the ‘sticks’. Nearly all of our discretionary shopping is done on-line. One of the biggest changes we’ve noticed over the years is that our impulse buying has nearly stopped. It’s only when we do our bi-weekly grocery shopping that we purchase items that we really don’t ‘need’ but decided to buy anyway.

If our particular shopping habits are becoming more common then it is no wonder so many stores are closing down. No demand means no money coming in equals going out of business. It’s as simple as that.

The real question here is: What is the future for retail business in the long and short-terms? My own guess is that we will see more on-demand manufacturing for products as they are needed.

My own latest personal example was I needed a new desk. My old one was a mass production piece that was made of inferior materials and covered in veneers and ‘paper’. My new one although being smaller that the old one is a sturdy hand-made piece made out of walnut by a local craftsman. I paid a nice sum for it and I can say it will last a long-time and probably be handed down to one of my grand-children later in this century.


17 posted on 03/11/2014 3:39:56 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: DesertRhino

the facts of the story are the amount of dollars left in the personal/family budget after paying the new “affordable care” premiums and deductibles- the insecurity and personal economic cutbacks that come from not being able to afford any health insurance at all-the reality of living with a smaller job and smaller paycheck-the reality that food bills are up and utiltity bills are borderline frightening and while it is now the obama norm, it hasn’t gotten easier to pay $3.50-$4 per gallon of gasoline

heating our house to a comfortable temperature has now become a luxury item in our budget, so in winter months we just don’t have much extra to spend - seldom go to the mall or shopping anywhere

but I think with obamacare, the democrats finally outdid themselves in raiding the family budget. where did they think most people would have all that extra money?


18 posted on 03/11/2014 3:45:11 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: The Working Man

“One of the biggest changes we’ve noticed over the years is that our impulse buying has nearly stopped.”

That is more related to a decline in discretionary funds (at least in my case, and many people I know). Retail is in trouble because the consumers are in trouble.

Online shopping is killing brick & mortar stores because as people run out of money, they can get great deals not just for new merchandise but also secondhand (on Craigslist, for example - an online flea market). My wife has scored great deals both buying and selling there, and the “legitimate” economy plays no role in it at all.


19 posted on 03/11/2014 3:46:59 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: silverleaf

Even worse, the tight budgets have led to a catastrophic decline in the birthrate; retailers have to hope the porous borders let in enough replacement Americans (though these are usually more shrewd with their money). As more and more people are living paycheck to paycheck, the only people I see freely spending are 1) government workers, particularly tenured teachers and others with seniority (protection from layoffs) and 2) wealthy childless people. There are simply not enough of them to keep all those stores in business.

Living in a dying state (NJ), there are a lot of great secondhand deals around as Americans liquidate and flee. Even Wal-Mart can’t compete with the low prices, and older American goods in good shape are much more sturdy than the cheap Red Chinese garbage peddled in stores.


20 posted on 03/11/2014 4:00:29 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: cuban leaf
You raise a good point. A lot of what you're seeing here has very little to do with the state of the U.S. economy and is simply a function of overbuilt retail space in this country.

For one of the projects I was working on a couple of years ago, the client had an economist on the consultant team who was doing a real estate market analysis for various sectors of the economy. He presented these interesting historical statistics for the U.S. showing a ratio of retail floor space to population going all the way back to the 1940s. The number was pretty consistent up until the 1980s, then it escalated dramatically until it was something like seven times higher by the mid-2000s than it had been in the 1940s.

It was obvious to everyone in the room that the economy simply couldn't support that much total retail space even if economic conditions were strong.

21 posted on 03/11/2014 4:04:05 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Due to technogy the era of the big box store is ending overhead is critical. My prediction is that numerous small businesses primarily operating on the Internet will replace most mall stores. They will use just in time inventory and limit the range of what they sell


22 posted on 03/11/2014 4:04:49 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
And we still can't buy any ammo, especially 22’s. Why can't the ammo companies build any new factories? and hire someone to make the stuff? At the present demand rate we could put a hundred thousand people to work.
23 posted on 03/11/2014 4:36:32 AM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s because we have reached the saturation point on junk

Most of us have all the crap we could possibly need


24 posted on 03/11/2014 4:41:48 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: The Working Man

that is right. Those Office Max desks are a piece of crap. Buy from the used furniture stores and get a real desk.


25 posted on 03/11/2014 4:45:56 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

-——why are major retail chains closing thousands of stores——

Because the stores were built as a result of unjustifiable exuberance.

A curve was drawn and projected linearly to develop a number of new stores to be built. They were built in the face of an economic head wind that made the effort unjustified. The person that made the decision would not back down and the closings lag the necessity.

Radio Shack has nothing unique to sell. Radio Shack is obsolete. JC Penny hired a fool that trashed a hundred years of retail experience. The penalty was severe.

Sears and K Mart merged to gather strength but the model is not able to withstand the competition wrought by technology the company failed to use.

Blockbuster was rendered obsolete by Netflix

Change is at the root but bad economy is not the sole culprit

Hard times are in reality somewhat hard times. Some are bothered but most are not. Life goes on at a plateaued level


26 posted on 03/11/2014 4:48:27 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: cuban leaf
Heh... Exactly. This article focuses on brick and mortar retail. Overall retail sales continues to climb:

and consumer spending does as well:


27 posted on 03/11/2014 4:54:40 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It doesn't matter in the fundamentally transformed USSA.

The State will provide for all of your needs. As determined by the State.


28 posted on 03/11/2014 5:01:59 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Wyatt's Torch

Are those curves depicting increasing retail sales adjusted for inflation and population gain?


29 posted on 03/11/2014 5:04:19 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: bert
Here it is per capita;

You are welcome to do your own data manipulations on the FRED site. Very easy to use.

30 posted on 03/11/2014 5:18:18 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There are some significant other contributing factors to the decline of traditional retail stores:

1) The internet has been taking market share from brick and mortar stores
2) Technology change has decimated stores selling or renting music and video such as Best Buy, Circuit City (gone), Blockbuster, and Hollywood Video.
3) Aging of the population. As the baby boomers reach retirement age they are downsizing homes and liquidating possessions. The home furnishings, tools, and clothing they are selling or giving away reduces demand for retail stores.
4) The proliferation of second hand retail stores (Goodwill, Salvation Army, consignment shops, and flea markets) is taking market share from traditional discount chains.
5) Craigs List and eBay have created new ways for consumer to find second hand merchandise as well as new goods and services, bypassing traditional brick & mortar retailers.
6) The rise of dollar stores servicing low income customers and taking market share from discount stores.
7) Casual dress in the workplace has shifted clothing buying patterns.
8) Shifts in the demand for consumer products due to demographics changes and technology result in reallocation of disposable income by consumers and therefore store selection. An example is demand for cell phones which is resulting in a proliferation of retail outlets marketing mobile phones and accessories. The billions being spent on cell phones and mobile services each year by consumers represents a shift in purchasing from other products and retail stores.

The retail landscape is constantly evolving in response to demographic shifts, technology, and changing consumer tastes. In my lifetime I’ve seen the demise of the 5 and dime store (Woolworth’s, TG&Y, Kresge) offset by the creation of the dollar store concept. The local mom & pop drug store has been replaced by big chain drug/convenience stores such as Walgreens and CVS. Gasoline station franchises of the big oil companies where the attendant pumped gas for you have been replaced by chain gasoline/convenience/fast food stores such as WaWa and Sheets. Specialty store chains, such as Victoria’s Secret, Ann Taylor, Talbots, Chico’s, and Jos A Banks have replaced mom & pop local clothing stores. Local bookstores have gone away, replaced by Barnes & Noble, Borders, and Amazon. Now electronic downloading of books to Kindles, iPads, and Nooks has killed Borders and threatens Barnes & Noble as well as the local public library. The Sears, Montgomery Wards, and JC Penny catalogs were discontinued two decades ago only to be replaced by Amazon and other internet retailers who adapted technology to make mail order shopping a growth industry.

Some formerly great retail chains such as Kmart and Sears are currently dying because the Wall Street investment wizards who purchased them are stripping them of assets by not investing in store upkeep, inventory, or associates on the floor. The management failure to provide good value and service to customers is causing them to fail, not the economy.

On the flip side we see other brick and mortar retailers thriving - H&M, Zara, Apple, Trader Joe’s. History shows retailers who understand the customer, adapt to the times, and continue to innovate will prosper even in hard times.


31 posted on 03/11/2014 5:20:04 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: cuban leaf

So if I rented a semi trailer went to Seattle, smoked some legal weed of course, went around bought everything at yards sales and went to KY I could make a good profit and get high to boot?


32 posted on 03/11/2014 5:24:23 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Wyatt's Torch

Hmmm..... I’ll check it out


33 posted on 03/11/2014 5:30:52 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: yldstrk

True that - although, I am unaware of any central-planned, marxist-y society that DIDN’T destroy the middle class.

Our slide into socialism must be stopped - or that is our inevitable fate.

A few “rich guys” in control of the gubmint enjoying the spoils,
and the rest of us toiling for bare sustenance...

Making us slaves with their smiles.


34 posted on 03/11/2014 5:31:11 AM PDT by spankalib ("I freed a thousand slaves. I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'm not denying the economy's in the crapper, but this article is a lot of hysteria. Blockbuster is closing its stores? Is that really a sign of a bad economy? Radio Shack? Many components that could only be picked up there can now be more easily purchased (with a much greater selection) on the internet. Rural Walmarts? Once again, I would think a lot of the non-food stuff can be more easily purchased on the internet for a lot of the rural population. Maybe quicker too, if folks don't plan on heading out in their Walmart's direction for a few days. Unfortunately for Staples, a lot of office supplies can be purchased much more cheaply from Costco.

I'm looking at this list of stores and I'm thinking that I haven't really shopped at most of them in more than a decade.

35 posted on 03/11/2014 5:31:17 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I will readily concede that no retailer can compete on price and an unlimited, if virtual, inventory at Amazon or elsewhere online.

However...many of retail’s problems are self-inflicted.

1) They worry less about the current sale and more about the next one. A once-simple checkout procedure is now a sparring match with cashiers asking for loyalty cards (irony alert), quizzing you on why you don’t have one, demanding to know your details so they can ‘look you up,’ and pressing you to obtain one.

2) If retailers want market research, then they can bloody well pay for it and conduct it themselves. Stop hounding me to ‘visit this web site and take a survey and register to win.’ I’m tired of getting receipts longer than a roll of toilet paper. You want feedback? Here’s some feedback: how about thanking me for my purchase instead? ‘Have a good one’ is not the same thing as gratitude.

3) Retailers are suffering death-by-actuary. By hyperanalyzing sales figures, they are creating a death spiral. If you stock only ‘top sellers,’ you eliminate variety. Eventually, this whittling will turn a redwood into a toothpick. Retailers will claim they are attempting to protect their profitability but the result is a boring sameness of merchandise across so-called competitors. What’s the point of shopping retail if I have no option but to wear what everyone else is wearing? Have you seen some of these people? If I can’t tell Macy’s from Dillard’s from Belk then what incentive do I have to shop at one over the other?

4) The OEMs (brands) aren’t helping. It’s clear that they are issuing tiers of product, with some going to mass retailers, some to specialty stores, some to their own ‘factory stores’ (what used to be outlets featuring bargains) etc. Anyone paying attention knows that if you’re looking for a particular model of adidas shoe, for example, you can eliminate certain retailers from the search as they stock only low-end or targeted models. And you’ll probably end up ordering from Zappos anyway due to miserly purchasing decisions by retailers. Why are retailers buying a single size run? It’s madness, especially considering the concentration of purchases in a particular size range (e.g. shoe 9-11). There’s a reason clearance sales have shoes sizes 5, 6, 7 and shirt sizes Small and Medium - nobody buys this stuff! Why are OEMs and retailers sticking to this outdated, futile approach?

I freely admit my tastes are particular and overly-considered but I remain shocked that I can walk through an entire mall without even being tempted by a product. Or perhaps it’s because I reject ‘fashion’ in favor of a shoe that isn’t as light as a bedroom slipper (and will fall apart quickly) or a shirt through which I can read a newspaper.

If we must buy clothes made in China so be it. It doesn’t mean I want to look like a bike-riding peasant in Beijing, however.


36 posted on 03/11/2014 5:38:05 AM PDT by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The End)
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To: gleeaikin

They did NOT repay premium investors whom they and the government cheated with 10 cents on the dollar extortion. They are NOT a company “doing well.” They are thieves.


37 posted on 03/11/2014 5:52:44 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Having worked in that business for a number of years, I can enlighten the author to one key relevant fact.

Retail chains are run by IDIOTS!

They construct their own pyramid scheme on borrowed money. They go out and overexpand, building stores to pump up their sales figures to lure investors who are too darned ignorant to grasp the concept of “comp store sales”.

All based on incredibly rosy projections of absolutely EVERYTHING breaking right. Which it rarely does. So the pyramid collapses in a blizzard of bad debt. But the senior execs drag it out until they can manage an escape with their golden parachutes.


38 posted on 03/11/2014 5:53:26 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The economy has been in a near depression since 2008 and the middle class is shrinking/dying for nearly 40 years. There are a lot of reasons for this economic decline. The retail world is very volatile and the Internet is causing many traditional stores to close their doors. But even in these terrible economic times, there are people who land on their feet. Workers with the right skills and willingness or ability to move are in great demand in the following fields: Oil /Natural gas fracking, IT/software development, Gun/ammo manufacturing, prepping/sufficiency movement. I have several friends all in IT have received numerous job offers, many in the low 6 figures. These fellows have degrees and Computer Engineering, Computer Science, and Math. if you have a degree in some useless major your options are more limited.


39 posted on 03/11/2014 5:53:48 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededication to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We are in a depression. I don't believe it will ever be called that, but we are there.

The jobs are gone, never to come back till wages drop below those in China. The problem isn't just the regulations, or unions, but the fact that it costs so much less to employ someone in a third world country than in the US.

In short, the middle class will be gone before the recovery.

The only caveat is that there may be a major war. Many economist point to the post war booms as a sign that we need to have a good blow out to do two things.
1. Kill off a few million people (reduce labor supply).
2. Defer demand for consumer goods (post war ration boom when everyone tries to catch up).

The trouble is that the only reason we had the 50’s like they were in this country is we had killed and destroyed our competitors ability to produce. The US was the only major manufacturing power that wasn't bombed, invaded, or starved out.

It won't be that case next time.

40 posted on 03/11/2014 5:53:51 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Gaffer

Yes, thanks for the clarification.

Retail chains are run by IDIOTS and THIEVES.


41 posted on 03/11/2014 5:53:57 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: relictele

Nice rant. Have a good one!


42 posted on 03/11/2014 5:58:25 AM PDT by palmer (There's someone in my lead but it's not me)
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To: silverleaf
...but I think with obamacare, the democrats finally outdid themselves in raiding the family budget. where did they think most people would have all that extra money?

A while back, I watched a Sean Hannity segment with a panel of guests, both left and right. Hannity asked a Lib, "is there a limit to how much a person should be taxed?" The first reply was a deer-in-the-headlights gaze and then a mumbled incoherent response. ALL of the rest of the Dem/Libs in the panel could not or would not answer the question, except for a some unrelated and distracting blathering. My first thought was...we are so screwed.

43 posted on 03/11/2014 6:58:59 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator ( 2+2 = V)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Follow it daily..........Job cuts and Store Closings........
http://www.dailyjobcuts.com/


44 posted on 03/11/2014 7:12:39 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
For years, there have been economists warning the U.S. has severely over-extended itself with the amount of retail establishments, shopping plazas, shopping malls, etc it has.

This is the correction.

45 posted on 03/11/2014 7:15:01 AM PDT by gdani
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To: central_va

So if I rented a semi trailer went to Seattle, smoked some legal weed of course, went around bought everything at yards sales and went to KY I could make a good profit and get high to boot?


Actually, my wife and I mused about if shipping and travel was free, one could make a killing doing exactly that, sans the dope.

And it kinda works both ways. Antique furniture that sells for $3k in Seattle typically goes for something in the $800 to $1,000 range over here. But crystal is almost worthless over here for some reason.


46 posted on 03/11/2014 7:18:41 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: cuban leaf
Problem with stuff like this article is that they sometimes forget to include the stores that are doing better.

You're right on this cuban. Yes, McDonald's is having problems... but it's because their store are increasingly staffed by people who are borderline crooks.

47 posted on 03/11/2014 7:20:03 AM PDT by GOPJ ("Don't be pushed by your problems. Be led by your dreams" - Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: 3Fingas

My late father many times told me that the only men who consistently had money during the depression were successful salesmen. Even “useless” degree holders can learn to sell. I recommend Tom Hopkins, but there are several good programs.


48 posted on 03/11/2014 7:31:29 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: kearnyirish2
"As more and more people are living paycheck to paycheck, the only people I see freely spending are 1) government workers, particularly tenured teachers and others with seniority (protection from layoffs) and 2) wealthy childless people."

Where are you seeing these people? Tenured teachers are things of the past now that many states are right-to-work states. Hell, I don't even KNOW of a tenured teacher anywhere come to think of it.

49 posted on 03/11/2014 7:33:41 AM PDT by EnigmaticAnomaly ("Nothing does more damage to the left than an honest election.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Importantly, an economic reality is that economic change is buffered by time.

That is, if you have a stock market plunge in a week, it is a “panic”; but if it takes an entire year, it is a “correction”. This is because when there is time, people can try to mitigate the damage, and others will try to exploit the damage.

But other conditions apply as well. Often economic changes do not happen at the international and national level, but at the regional, or even state and local level. For decades, the US would have regional changes, where a prosperous region would “take the pressure off” an adjacent region having a downturn.

However, what we are seeing today is long term international and national erosion, in which economic policies, even philosophies, have run their course and are starting to fall apart.

If politicians try and cling to collapsing ideas, like Keynesianism, despite the reality, there will be a bad fall, sooner or later. But those with better ideas, such as conservatives, can hopefully take over and start to replace failure with the success of the new economic idea.


50 posted on 03/11/2014 7:34:39 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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