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MH370 Passenger With Stolen Passport Identified as Iranian Man, 19
ABCNews ^

Posted on 03/11/2014 3:01:10 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA

One of the two men who boarded Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 with a stolen passport was identified as a 19-year-old Iranian with no known terrorist connections, authorities said at a press conference today.

Malaysian police chief Khalid Abu Bakar said the man, named Pouria Nour Mohammad Mehrdad, was likely trying to enter Germany to seek asylum. His mother contacted authorities after he didn't arrive in Frankfurt.

The other man who boarded the flight with a stolen passport has not been identified.

The announcement was the first certain piece of news in what has become a baffling mystery over the fate of the missing jetliner. Earlier Tuesday, authorities expanded their search for the Boeing 777 on the opposite side of the country’s coast from where it disappeared days ago with 239 people on board.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iran; malaysia; mh307

1 posted on 03/11/2014 3:01:10 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

What bad luck.
Sad.


2 posted on 03/11/2014 3:06:26 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Red in Blue PA

This reminds me of that Twilight zone episode where the plane hits the Jet stream and goes back in time and “no trace of her was ever found”. It could have been BOO who blew it up (Brothers of Obama) but I have a funny feeling it’s something else entirely.


3 posted on 03/11/2014 3:17:56 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
A combination photo shows two men whom police said were travelling on stolen passports onboard the missing Malaysia Airlines MH370 plane, taken before their departure at Kuala Lumpur International Airport in this March 11, 2014 handout courtesy of the Malaysian Police. REUTERS/Malaysian Police/Handout via Reuters
4 posted on 03/11/2014 3:42:24 AM PDT by wtd
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To: wtd
Using false passports being played down to avoid link to Islamic terror. . .
5 posted on 03/11/2014 3:46:17 AM PDT by wtd
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To: wtd

Amazing how they can rule out terrorism so quickly when virtually no facts are known.


6 posted on 03/11/2014 3:47:41 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

> Malaysian police chief Khalid Abu Bakar said the man, named Pouria Nour Mohammad Mehrdad, was likely trying to enter Germany to seek asylum.

Yeah, let’s listen to Khalid Abu Bakar, and all the official denials that this was a terrorist act.


7 posted on 03/11/2014 3:47:48 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
I have a funny feeling it’s something else entirely.

I can really only think of one scenario where a plane completely disappears from radar and then existence without any mayday call.

It involves either a surface to air missile, an air to air missile, or a bomb smuggled on board somehow.

if it were the latter, I think someone would have claimed credit for there successful terrorist act by now. If it were the former, I think the responsible government would be very carefully covering things up.

8 posted on 03/11/2014 3:49:48 AM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: SunkenCiv
No bias from Malaysian officials/s


9 posted on 03/11/2014 3:49:55 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: wtd

Or......as is most likely the case, they were trying to escape Iran.


10 posted on 03/11/2014 3:49:55 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Missing Malaysian Airlines Flight MH370: Two Men Claim to Have Seen Plane Plunging into Sea

Fisherman Azid Ibrahim, 66, in Kota Baru, told the New Strait Times that an airplane appeared to fly low below the clouds which he followed for about five minutes before it disappeared. He was out at the sea with six other fishermen about 14.4 km (8.9 miles) from Kuala Besar in Pantai Cahaya Bulan.

Ibrahim said the plane was flying so low that he could see its lights "as big as coconuts". He had spotted the plane with his friend at about 1:30am local time, while all his fellow fishermen were fast asleep in the boat.

"I only heard about the plane yesterday. My friend, Pak Da asked me where the plane was heading to at this time of night," Ibrahim said, adding it was flying lower than usual.

The fisherman reported the incident to the police the next morning after he heard the news of the missing plane around the coast, and his account was telecast by a local broadcaster RTM.

Unusual coincidence

About 30 km (18.6 miles) away from Kota Baru, businessman Alif Fathi Abdul Hadi, 29, lodged a report with the Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency (MMEA) that he saw "bright white lights", descending fast into the sea at about 1:45am the same day.

He was going towards the backyard of his house when he saw the "white lights" as used in planes during night flights, heading towards Bachok, which was unusual, according to him.

"I was walking towards the rear of my house when I saw the lights, and wondered where it was heading to," he said.

"The airspace here is like a highway for aircraft and they usually travel in route patterns, but this one went completely towards the other way.

"..It was going towards the sea, near Bachok."

But, he admitted, he was not sure if the white lights were actually from a plane, adding there were no blinking red lights, and that the "white lights" vanished behind a line of coconut trees.

Alif did not consider this unusual and did not think much about it, until he too heard about the missing jetliner the next day, and filed the report with the authorities.

The "eyewitnesses", however, did not describe any accompanying sound of the plane's impact with the sea upon the claimed crash.


11 posted on 03/11/2014 3:50:35 AM PDT by wtd
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To: SunkenCiv

Saying that these 2 were likely not terrorists, doesn’t rule out a terrorist act by someone else.


12 posted on 03/11/2014 3:52:51 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

Or maybe one Iranian “asylum seeker” was so important to the Iranian regime that the second Iranian went on the plane just to bring the whole thing down. /s


13 posted on 03/11/2014 4:00:46 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: nuconvert
The mental gymnastics involved in declaring this suddenly missing passenger flight is not likely the victim of terrorism simply because two (of four false passports mentioned in prior reports) passengers using stolen passports/false identification, when additional reports have revealed that five additional passengers checked in but never boarded is astounding.

It appears wherever Muslims are involved, any resulting harm, damage and death is deemed 'an act of god' and therefore not prosecutable. Spit.

14 posted on 03/11/2014 4:03:08 AM PDT by wtd
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To: SunkenCiv

Nah, they’re too young


15 posted on 03/11/2014 4:05:08 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: wtd

“The mental gymnastics involved in declaring this suddenly missing passenger flight is not likely the victim of terrorism ...”

Who said that?


16 posted on 03/11/2014 4:06:00 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: SunkenCiv

Not to imply that the IRI hasn’t crashed planes in the past in order to get rid of people. They have.


17 posted on 03/11/2014 4:09:27 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert
"...not likely the victim of terrorism ...” who said that?"
The Malaysian police (authorities)
18 posted on 03/11/2014 4:21:51 AM PDT by wtd
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To: nuconvert
Saying that these 2 were likely not terrorists, doesn’t rule out a terrorist act by someone else.

Because planes never crash without a terrorist being involved.

19 posted on 03/11/2014 4:26:34 AM PDT by PaulCruz2016
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To: RC one

:: It involves either a surface to air missile, an air to air missile, or a bomb smuggled on board somehow. ::

The first two in your list are also known as “center fuel tank spark from loose wiring”


20 posted on 03/11/2014 4:30:54 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: Red in Blue PA
Malaysian military now reveals it tracked MH370 to Malacca straits
"In a strange twist, Malaysia's military believes it tracked the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 by radar over the Strait of Malacca, far from where it last made contact with civilian air traffic control over the Gulf of Thailand."
Anyone else beginning to suspect SAR was set up in a 'wild-goose-chase' set up here? Recall,
21 posted on 03/11/2014 4:39:37 AM PDT by wtd
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To: PaulCruz2016

Don’t be silly. I was replying to someone else regarding these 2 Iranians.


22 posted on 03/11/2014 4:42:24 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: wtd

Again, it says that there is no terror link to these 2 Iranians.


23 posted on 03/11/2014 4:44:14 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
I have no idea about the expertise of the individual who posted this at youtube but its up for consideration video report Flight Radar Caught Changing Flight Path of Malaysia Flight 370

Two different flight radar tracks. Two different locations of disappearance. One involves a second (unidentified) plane also disappears

also mentions MH370 sudden rise by 10k feet from 30k cruising altitude prior to disappearance.

24 posted on 03/11/2014 4:47:25 AM PDT by wtd
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To: RC one

Nuclear?


25 posted on 03/11/2014 4:56:39 AM PDT by Chickensoup (leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: wtd
I knew eventually there would be some nighttime fishermen that would come forward to report a sighting of this descending aircraft. It is hard to miss a jumbo jet falling from the sky at low altitude if you are out on the water at night.

The lack of debris found so far leads to the assumption that the plane went into the water intact, for the most part at least. If the plane broke apart at altitude there would be pieces and parts scattered for miles.

26 posted on 03/11/2014 5:02:47 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963 (=)
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To: nuconvert

>Or......as is most likely the case, they were trying to escape Iran.

Anyone at the Malaysian airport has already escaped Iran.


27 posted on 03/11/2014 5:07:36 AM PDT by soycd
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To: Red in Blue PA

It’s amazing how quick the liberal MSM has been to say, “Just in immigrant, not a terrorist!”


28 posted on 03/11/2014 5:08:00 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Then again maybe he wasn’t trying to get to Germany. Maybe he was trying to get to heaven to get those 72 so called virgins, but who are really ex-muzzie male prostitutes.


29 posted on 03/11/2014 5:11:19 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (MARANATHA, MARANATHA, Come quickly LORD Jesus!!! Father send thy Son!! Its Time!)
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To: RC one
It involves either a surface to air missile, an air to air missile, or a bomb smuggled on board somehow. if it were the latter, I think someone would have claimed credit for there successful terrorist act by now. If it were the former, I think the responsible government would be very carefully covering things up.

If it was a successful bombing, there is an explanation for why no credit has been claimed. It was just a trial run, a proof of concept. Let's say, for example, they have coopted the night shift at a Pakistani shaving cream factory, and have managed to load bombs into perfect metal cans of shaving cream. They might have dozens of them, but they need to prove that they will take down an airliner.

If that is the case, now they know, but we don't know.

So on a given day, 20 jihadists board aircraft, with very simple instructions: make sure that your shaving cream can bomb is in the air at noon GMT on a certain day.

This concept would be similar to the thwarted "Operation Bojinko" from circa 2000. The goal is to blow up a dozen or more jetliners over the ocean at the same time.

Like the first and second World Trade Center bombings indicate, these guys don't quit, they try again.

30 posted on 03/11/2014 5:14:28 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel; All
The other person travelling on a stolen passport has just been identified
31 posted on 03/11/2014 5:14:46 AM PDT by ken5050 (I fear a world run by adults who were never spanked as kids and got trophies just for participating)
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To: Red in Blue PA
A quick review of Lockerbie may be helpful:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_103

Contact is lost[edit]
At 18:58, the aircraft established two-way radio contact with Shanwick Oceanic Area Control in Prestwick on frequency 123.95 MHz. At 19:02:44, the clearance delivery officer at Shanwick transmitted its oceanic route clearance. The aircraft did not acknowledge this message. The Clipper Maid of the Seas’ “squawk” then flickered off. Air Traffic Control tried to make contact with the flight, with no response. It was at this time that a loud sound was recorded on the cockpit voice recorder (CVR) at 19:02:50. Five radar echos fanning out appeared, instead of one.[7][8] Comparison of the cockpit voice recorder to the radar returns showed that, eight seconds after the explosion, the wreckage had a 1-nautical-mile (1.9 km) spread.[9] A British Airways pilot, flying the Glasgow–London shuttle near Carlisle, called Scottish authorities to report that he could see a huge fire on the ground.[10]

Disintegration of aircraft[edit]
The explosion punched a 20-inch (0.51 m)-wide hole on the left side of the fuselage. Investigators from the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) concluded that no emergency procedures had been started in the cockpit.[11] The cockpit voice recorder, located in the tail section of the aircraft, was found in a field by police searchers within 24 hours. There was no evidence of a distress signal; a 180-millisecond hissing noise could be heard as the explosion destroyed the aircraft's communications centre.[12] Although the explosion was in the aircraft hold, the effect was magnified by the large difference in pressure between the aircraft's interior and exterior. The steering cables disrupted, the fuselage pitched downwards and to port.[13]

I was on Pan Am Flight 103 in late October. I connected with another Pan Am flight from Amsterdam. Security was very tight in Amsterdam. Tighter than after 9/11. The Dutch Royal Marines surrounded the Pan Am Gate with weapons. We were frisked twice and then had to go through a one on one detailed suitcase search (every inch of my suitcase was searched while I was standing there. Usually you give up your suitcase upon entering the airport. My suitcase was brought to me at the gate and that is where it was searched). I thought it was weird at the time. The security in Heathrow was very lax. About two months later I was sitting at a bar during a Christmas get together when the first pictures of the downed Pan Am Flight 103 was reported. I thought that it was determined that the bomb was supposed to go off when the plane was over water instead of over land.

32 posted on 03/11/2014 5:29:41 AM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: soycd

“Anyone at the Malaysian airport has already escaped Iran.”

True. But they would have had to return. At least one of them had family in Germany, so it sounds like Malaysia was just a jumping off point. My guess is that it was a country that gave them a visa with their Iranian passports. European visas aren’t easy to get.


33 posted on 03/11/2014 5:36:04 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: woodbutcher1963
The lack of debris found so far leads to the assumption that the plane went into the water intact, for the most part at least. If the plane broke apart at altitude there would be pieces and parts scattered for miles.

Exactly what I was thinking.

34 posted on 03/11/2014 5:36:35 AM PDT by EricT. (ARBEIT MACHT FREI- now get back to work you taxpaying peasant!)
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To: wtd

When this was first reported a few days ago, they were saying that they were 2 hours into the flight when it disappeared off radar. One talking head “expert” said that if the plane stayed on flight plan, it would have put the plane somewhere around Hainan Island. Now, I’m reading reports that they were only about a half hour into the flight, somewhere over th Gulf of Thailand.


35 posted on 03/11/2014 6:24:10 AM PDT by virgil
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To: Red in Blue PA

Flying to Beijing to get to Germany? Right...


36 posted on 03/11/2014 6:30:17 AM PDT by Birdsbane ("Onward through the fog!" ... Oat Willie)
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To: Travis McGee

Terrorist also stopped taking credit as they know the reprisal will be overwhelming. So, they terrorize and shut up, simply letting people wonder what is going on. The idea seems to be not to take credit but to harm. The harming of infidels is their pleasure. Taking credit to raise awareness to their cause means nothing anymore. They don’t care to change us by obtaining sympathy for their cause. They simple want to harm.


37 posted on 03/11/2014 7:21:53 AM PDT by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Well that's because I want to keep the safe Happy Happy Happy feeling we all have with Odingo as President.
38 posted on 03/11/2014 7:30:32 AM PDT by angcat
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To: RC one

Oh that’s right, it could have been a mistake. What was that one case where the Navy was practicing and they accidentally shot down a passenger plane? Was that the US? I vaguely remember something like that. That wasn’t covered up though.


39 posted on 03/11/2014 7:36:28 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Security Breach’ Probed In Missing Aircraft Case (Updated)

By Russ Niles | March 7, 2014

Malaysian officials have confirmed they’re investigating a “security breach” at Kuala Lumpur Airport involving Flight MH370 and that they’re now looking for links between four passengers and the Chinese Uighur militant Muslim movement. Uighur militants killed 29 people last week in a grisly knife attack at a Chinese train station and the timing of the aircraft disappearance is considered suspicious according to sources quoted by CBC News. Security officials are combing CCTV footage of the security screening area and are interviewing the screeners. At least two of the passengers were believed to have been traveling on stolen passports while the other two that are the focus of the probe may have had Ukrainian passports. All of the passengers who required them had Chinese entry visas but China has recently allowed an exemption to its stringent visa requirements that permits transient passengers to skip applying for an entry visa. The two men flying on what were believed to be stolen visas had booked flights through to Europe. Meanwhile reports that debris had been spotted turned out to be false and the search continues.

http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/Missing-777-May-Have-Turned-BackUpdated221564-1.html


40 posted on 03/11/2014 7:58:42 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Red in Blue PA

I would suspect that anyone named Mohammad could be a terrorist.


41 posted on 03/11/2014 8:02:26 AM PDT by golf lover (goingf)
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To: virgil

42 posted on 03/11/2014 8:02:33 AM PDT by wtd
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To: woodbutcher1963

“A terrorist might have packed sufficient plastic explosives, then set these off in the area just rear of the cockpit, with the result being both loss of systems and possibly pilots. Explosives in the cargo compartment or in checked baggage also cannot be ruled out. As of the time of writing, no group appears to have claimed responsibility.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-an-explosion-cannot-be-ruled-out-9182880.html


43 posted on 03/11/2014 8:03:36 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Didn’t 5 people buy tickets, check Luggage, then NOT board??

What happened we never hear that anymore??


44 posted on 03/11/2014 8:07:47 AM PDT by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (Elections have consequences - NOW LOOK what we have to deal with...)
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To: wtd
Experts say impossible for MH370 to escape detection on all radars UNLESS...
- It is “impossible” for missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 to have escaped all radar detection in the area where it was travelling, unless it entered remote territories, an aviation analyst has said, as the mysterious disappearance of the large aircraft continues to baffle experts around the world.

or . . .may I suggest, there is a complicit state (caliphate) actor working to obtain leverage with hostages.

45 posted on 03/11/2014 8:08:39 AM PDT by wtd
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

you and I are on the same page I think.


46 posted on 03/11/2014 2:33:10 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: RetiredArmy
Then again maybe he wasn’t trying to get to Germany. Maybe he was trying to get to heaven to get those 72 so called virgins, but who are really ex-muzzie male prostitutes.

And then again perhaps he was identified by the Iranian goonocracy and intercepted by a Quds Brigade torpedo.

If a foreign-flag airliner were hijacked and flown to Iran by Quds uglies with dissident Iranian political refugees on board, who were then summarily arrested in Bandar Abbas or wherever on arrival and given a show trial, that would be a real propaganda coup (or "information operation" as those people like to say) for the Quds mouth-breathers.

47 posted on 03/12/2014 2:24:55 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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