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Obama to cut AWACS fleet by 25%
American Thinker ^ | 3/11/2014 | Ed Lasky

Posted on 03/11/2014 5:59:18 AM PDT by rktman

Adam Kredo reports for the Washington Free Beacon that Obama is planning to cut America’s key reconnaissance fleet by 25 percent:

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: defensebudget; didiots; drones; nolowinfoleader; slashdefense
Decreasing the chance we'll be called global bullies once again. I'm sure Vlad is grinning at this news. And thinking, "Stupid Amerikanskis. They voted this idiot in again." Let's see, Vlad hunting on vaca or golfing? Does Vlad wear mom jeans?
1 posted on 03/11/2014 5:59:19 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

And increase food stamp payouts to “those who qualify”, if you know what I mean.


2 posted on 03/11/2014 6:01:14 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: rktman

The Russians and the Chinese are enhancing their military and the democrats are shrinking ours away to nothing. Vote Republican!


3 posted on 03/11/2014 6:01:31 AM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: MrB

Again, it is what his deciples want.


4 posted on 03/11/2014 6:02:05 AM PDT by sport
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To: maxwellsmart_agent

And where are all those people who said they were teaching the republicans a lesson by voting for a 3rd party who stood no chance to win? Its better this way, right?


5 posted on 03/11/2014 6:03:49 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: rktman

Dear God in Heaven...let the Obama nightmare and plague on our nation end soon. Please, I pray Thee, for the sake of our children and grandchildren, and for the sake of every person and nation in the world who longs for true liberty, let the people of this nation this November in 2014 remove his abettors and accomplices from Office in the House and Senate...and in State Houses around this nation. Then, Dear Father, we earnestly pray, then in November 2016 elect a true, God-fearing and patriotic American to the office of Presidency who can, with those elected in the House and Senate, begin to dismantle what these cretins have done, and make America strong again...returning to Thee according to Thy admonition in II Chron 7:14. In Jesus Name, Amen.


6 posted on 03/11/2014 6:06:07 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: rktman
Ha haaaaa!!! Joke's on you Obama! You don't control the purse strings! Ain't that right, Mr. Boehner?

Mr. Boehner?

Boehner?

Bueller?

Bueller?

7 posted on 03/11/2014 6:08:38 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: sport

Yup.

Perhaps it would be a good thing to reduce some military spending but when it is just being reprogrammed plus into giveaway programs for the bums I don’t support it one iota. Frankly, the proper counter to Putin would be to abrogate the above gound testing treaty and fire off a few of our enduring stockpile to test their efficieny, power up Hanaford and begin processing weapons grade materials ASAP, recommission the destroyed silos, restart the Peacekeeper program, build a dozen more Tridents, and dig up both Gens Patton and LeMay.


8 posted on 03/11/2014 6:08:54 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Jeff Head

I’m thinkin’ it’s gonna take a lot longer than a 4 or 8 year term to rip asunder all the damage and rebuild it. Especially with all the clinton sleepers and now “lyin’ king” sleepers in place to carry on the destruction of the country. Sorry dang situation.


9 posted on 03/11/2014 6:10:03 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Redneck. Race: Daytona 500)
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To: Jeff Head

I agree. Now we need to promote VOTING among our Evangelical Friends - including the ones that stayed home in 2013 because Mitt was a Mormon.


10 posted on 03/11/2014 6:19:52 AM PDT by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA.)
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To: Jeff Head

Amen.


11 posted on 03/11/2014 6:23:24 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: TNoldman

My error 2013 = 2012


12 posted on 03/11/2014 6:24:11 AM PDT by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA.)
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To: rktman
Ti will take at least 50 years of rebuilding and replacing to undo the damage already done. In addition to the obvious damage done, they have placed moles and termites in positions to undermine for decades into the future.

The rebuilding process is predicated upon replacing Obama with an American and him leaving the White House in 2017, which I will have to see to believe. And furthermore, as evidenced by the elections of 2008 and 2012, unless the morals of the Country and the patriotism of its citizens is raised, again something I don't see happening, the chances of electing a President that has America's welfare first is slim to none.

13 posted on 03/11/2014 6:26:41 AM PDT by sport
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To: rktman

We are so infiltrated and compromised that it’s going to take a decade or more to rid ourselves of the treasonous, marxist, commie subhuman filth put in-place by Klintoon & 0bummer&Co. And wean so many millions off the gov’t teat. I just hope our Republic can survive the time period without a CW3 happening.


14 posted on 03/11/2014 6:27:00 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: maxwellsmart_agent

The Russians and the Chinese are enhancing their military and the democrats are shrinking ours away to nothing. Vote Republican!

Read the votes and vote accordingly. Not all republicans are voting as you would expect them too........


15 posted on 03/11/2014 6:28:04 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2014 and the Crusades 2014?)
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To: rktman

The planes will be flown to Tuscon where they will be stored and carefully maintained for the day the treacherous Tyrant is gone

Obama will never know


16 posted on 03/11/2014 6:28:50 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Texas Eagle

Boehner and McConnell are just taking up space in their respective chambers.


17 posted on 03/11/2014 6:29:44 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Progressive is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: MrB
And increase food stamp payouts to “those who qualify”, if you know what I mean.

I know what you mean. Believe me, the DOD can cut waste and we should reign in the "Congressional Industrial Military Complex". However, I do not trust Obama to make the correct calls in defense when his motivation is to make the US equal on an international scale and to use the budget savings to increase the welfare state.

Furthermore, and this is Ryan and Bonner's fault when they cut COLA for military retirees, our side is giving budget concessions and their side is not.

18 posted on 03/11/2014 6:32:12 AM PDT by 11th Commandment ("THOSE WHO TIRE LOSE")
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To: rktman
Obama to cut AWACS fleet by 25%

Instead, let's cut the luxury aircraft he and his cronies ride around in - and his vacation budget as well!

19 posted on 03/11/2014 6:32:55 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Who but a TYRANT shoves down another man's throat what he has exempted himself from?)
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To: rktman

Why would we want to see nukes coming our way?


20 posted on 03/11/2014 6:38:20 AM PDT by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
"Instead, let's cut the luxury aircraft he and his cronies ride around in - and his vacation budget as well!"

They would just commandeer military transport aircraft.
And yes, I would very much like to see Obama's travel restricted. In particular, I'd like to see Moochelle forced to travel commercial on her own dime.

21 posted on 03/11/2014 6:40:02 AM PDT by StormEye
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To: b4its2late

Oxygen thieves.


22 posted on 03/11/2014 6:43:27 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: StormEye

Let him use military transport instead of Air Force One! Go right ahead!

Air Force One is luxury with wings compared to most transport planes. If the sight of exposed wires and cables isn’t enough, the rear-facing seats (safer, doncha know) should convince him.

However, I could sign off on mothballing Air Force Two. Let the First Wookie take a commercial flight instead. Oh yeah!


23 posted on 03/11/2014 6:50:28 AM PDT by DNME (This is the government our Founders warned us about.)
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To: rktman
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24 posted on 03/11/2014 6:51:14 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: rktman

The current crop of spiritually insane “leaders” reject the notion that obedience to God = blessings, and disobedient to God = wrath. Our Founders knew better, and that’s why they sought to conform our laws with God’s commands. And we were richly blessed for that obedience for our first 200 years or so, growing from a tiny country to a rich and prosperous superpower. Neither that obedience nor those blessings were an accident.

But in the past few decades the American people have turned toward depravity and elected “leaders” who reflect that depravity, resulting in rejection of God’s commands. And now our formerly rich and prosperous nation is teetering on the brink of bankruptcy, trillions of dollars in debt. That’s also not an accident.

This is truly a national security issue, an existential threat. But the American people are so depraved and spiritually insane they’re incapable of seeing that freight train bearing down on them.


25 posted on 03/11/2014 6:57:53 AM PDT by afsnco
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To: afsnco
'Strong delusion', and all that?

Repent, America. Now.

26 posted on 03/11/2014 7:01:44 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: rktman

Peace through weakness.


27 posted on 03/11/2014 7:20:14 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Jeff Head

Thank you for the beautiful prayer.

We should not be discouraged or deceived. GOD is still in control. Look around and you will see HIS hand moving. And when you see these things, do not wait in idleness, but prepare yourselves. For HIS day is coming...

As for today, do not submit yourselves to the powers of evil, but labor against such. Love GOD with all your heart (for HE blesses and chastises us with HIS love) and love one another (in HIS name).

If we do this, I believe our nation will be blessed again.


28 posted on 03/11/2014 7:23:56 AM PDT by Texicanus (Texas, it's a whole 'nother country.)
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To: sport
Agreed.

http://m.nationalreview.com/article/372978/what-could-go-wrong-w-bradford-wilcox

29 posted on 03/11/2014 7:30:32 AM PDT by moovova
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To: TNoldman

‘My error 2013 = 2012’

Maybe that’s why everyone stayed home - wrong year.


30 posted on 03/11/2014 7:37:06 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: driftdiver
And where are all those people who said they were teaching the republicans a lesson by voting for a 3rd party who stood no chance to win? Its better this way, right?

And it'll happen again if the Rino lovers force another Bush or Romney on us...YOu guys just don't learn...

31 posted on 03/11/2014 7:37:31 AM PDT by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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To: Iscool

Remember that as you’re carted off to the work camps.


32 posted on 03/11/2014 7:55:34 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: rktman
For once Obama might be correct, the AWACS is an obsolete piece of crap.
33 posted on 03/11/2014 8:18:48 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage? (Held my nose to vote.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Agreed. In today’s drone-centric stealthy world, AWACS gives us no useful information.


34 posted on 03/11/2014 8:28:22 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

The ‘lyin’ king” might be WHAT?


35 posted on 03/11/2014 8:57:59 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Redneck. Race: Daytona 500)
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To: driftdiver
Remember that as you’re carted off to the work camps.

If you know about them, the Republicans in Congress as well as Romney and all the Bushes know about them...That ought to tell you something...

Don't forget, it was daddy Bush who brought us the phrase, New World Order...

36 posted on 03/11/2014 10:17:38 AM PDT by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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To: rktman

There’s MASSIVE amounts of ‘fat’ and waste to cut out of the area of “defense”(Military Industrial Complex). I don’t think this qualifies as either, because AWACS really IS defense!

However, if the .gov insists on squandering away money, we’re all better served spending on defense. At least we’re creating jobs and actually producing things with it, rather than giving people 0bama phones, and endless handouts to unproductive people. Still, I wonder how long it will be before our tanks, armored vehicles, and aircraft are outsourced to China or somewhere offshore. Hell, China likely already has all of the designs and knows how to build it all.


37 posted on 03/11/2014 1:52:47 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Lazamataz
. In today’s drone-centric stealthy world, AWACS gives us no useful information.

If they are paired up, they are a powerful combination. From the Federation of America Scientists website:

"The AWACS Bistatic UAV Adjunct is a proposed $850M+ acquisition program with prototype in FY08 and completed in 2015. High Altitude Endurance (HAE) Dark Star/Global Hawk UAVs with bistatic receivers for the AWACS radar will expand area coverage of a single E-3 orbit and with the inherent significant signal to interference ratio enhancement provide increased coverage of low RCS targets while operating inside and outside an air defense threat environment. The inclusion of the Bistatic UAV adjunct to the E-3 would allow reduced E-3 operational tempo in some theaters and the ability to cover two major regional conflicts with fewer E-3s. By only carrying the receiver, IFF interrogator and a JTIDS/JCTN transmitter package, the UAV weight limitations can be met (combat ID systems might also be included if weight and size allows). The bistatic UAV would also be able to serve as an adjunct to the E-2, TPS-75 and other air/ground radars. Most important, the Bistatic UAV is a key part of the USAF transition from the E-3 to UAVs and Space for the AWACS mission, with the mission crew on the ground. The Bistatic UAV will be able to serve as the receiver using a satellite as the radar transmitter instead of the E-3. The bistatic UAV is a common link to a reduced E-3 fleet and use of Space for surveillance of large to LO/VLO air vehicles (missiles and aircraft) in the battlespace."

38 posted on 03/11/2014 3:12:13 PM PDT by Tonytitan
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To: rktman
TADIL J (the data link the AWACS uses to report aircraft position) is dumbed down to about 12 second updates because of the AWACS.

Do you have any idea how far an aircraft can fly in 12 seconds? This creates massive problems for modern accurate radars to figure out if that AC being reported by AWACS is the same as on their radar.

And this is just one example, there are many more of trying to keep this 80’s technology relevant.

39 posted on 03/12/2014 7:23:07 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage? (Held my nose to vote.)
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To: MrB
And increase food stamp payouts to “those who qualify”, if you know what I mean.

I's qualifies! Gimme some he'p!!

40 posted on 03/12/2014 1:45:05 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Tonytitan
"The bistatic UAV would also be able to serve as an adjunct to the E-2, TPS-75 and other air/ground radars."

The TPS-75 is the truck- and air-transportable successor to (and still has a high degree of "commonality" with) the earlier TPS-43E2 air-search radar. Both are owned by the USAF and are C-130 transportable.

The radar has a 240nm range operating at 2.8 megawatts in S-band (3 GHz) while consuming 53KW locally generated. They're talking here about improving coverage of such radars by use of Global Hawk and other high-endurance drones looking at the ground radars' (and AWACS radars') returns passively, over a long baseline.

The E-2 is the Northrop-Grumman Hawkeye carrier-borne AWACS.

41 posted on 03/12/2014 1:58:20 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: rktman
Does Vlad wear mom jeans?

He prefers "if you don't shut up I'm going to send a KGB goon to find your 'off' button" jeans.

42 posted on 03/12/2014 1:59:29 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus
Basically what they're doing is using a Global Hawk as a radar repeater to increase the size of the footprint of the signal source, be that E-3, E-2 or whatever. Seeing as how these are battle management systems I hope that introducing another level of processing doesn't degrade the real time response and effectiveness of these systems.

I wonder what the operational history of the Global Hawk is in denied airspace. If they can operate with impunity in enemy skies this program is well worth pursuing.

43 posted on 03/12/2014 4:20:51 PM PDT by Tonytitan
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To: MrB

Well, Bammy is certainly NOT going be known as the AWACS TOTUS.


44 posted on 03/12/2014 11:17:49 PM PDT by Paladin2
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