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Rand Paul Calls Ted Cruz on Bashing Their Party
Houston Press ^ | Tue., Mar. 11 2014 at 7:00 AM | Dianna Wray

Posted on 03/11/2014 7:42:24 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

Lots of people in the Republican party are fed up with Sen. Ted Cruz, but Sen. Rand Paul is the guy who is doing something about it.

On Monday, the conservative news website, Breitbart News, published an op-ed by Paul, where the senator from Kentucky took Cruz to task -- without ever actually naming the guy who may be beloved by the Tea Party conservatives, but has earned some pretty impressive dislike from the elected members of his own party -- for his hijinks that Paul said have encouraged divisions within the party:

"I don't claim to be the next Ronald Reagan nor do I attempt to disparage fellow Republicans as not being sufficiently Reaganesque. But I will remind anyone who thinks we will win elections by trashing previous Republican nominees or holding oneself out as some paragon in the mold of Reagan, that splintering the party is not the route to victory."

Paul based the whole thing around Reagan, the guy that every Republican with presidential aspirations wants to grow up to be. Cruz has bucked the authority of party leaders and has made it routine to oppose anything that smells of compromise while likening himself to President Ronald Reagan. Because the Gipper is second only to God among Republicans, comparing yourself with him is on the level of calling yourself the Lord and Savior. In some circles -- the ones on the far sides of the inter-party divide -- it's worse.

Paul went over how one does not become the "next Reagan" by pretending to do what Reagan would have done.

"Every Republican likes to think he or she is the next Ronald Reagan. Some who say this do so for lack of their own ideas and agenda. Reagan was a great leader and President. But too often people make him into something he wasn't in order to serve their own political purposes."

Of course, Paul and Cruz are both angling to be on the top of the 2016 Republican ticket, so it's not exactly a shock to see Paul call Cruz out in a backhanded fashion over Cruz's claims to Reagan's legacy. At the same time Paul himself is hoping a little of that Reagan magic rubs off. He put out the op-ed in Breitbart pleading for people to find some tolerance and stop splitting the Republican party up.


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"If we must have an enemy at the head of Government, let it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his foolish and bad measures." - Alexander Hamilton

 

"We don't intend to turn the Republican Party over to the traitors in the battle just ended. We will have no more of those candidates who are pledged to the same goals as our opposition and who seek our support. Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn’t make any sense at all." -- President Ronald Reagan

 

"A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be. Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice." - Thomas Paine 1792

 

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." - Samuel Adams

 

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1 posted on 03/11/2014 7:42:24 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie; exnavy; MarMema; skinkinthegrass; Bikkuri; o2bfree; 12th_Monkey; 230FMJ; TWhiteBear; ..
Ted Cruz Ping!

If you want on/off this ping list, please let me know.

Please beware, this is a high-volume ping list!
2 posted on 03/11/2014 7:42:51 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

This bit between Rand Paul and Ted Cruz seems like a set-up actually.

I like both of them.


3 posted on 03/11/2014 7:44:41 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ( http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: SoConPubbie

Houston Repress called Ted Cruz the turkey of the year last year in their “turkeys” issue that comes out every November.

In the past it has been Rick Perry, Tom DeLay, pretty much any high profile Republican in the state.

It’s a free “alternative” weekly with sex ads that fund its publication. And while some may say “live and let live”, the big scandal with the advertising is that underaged and trafficked women are sold there.


4 posted on 03/11/2014 7:46:34 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network; All

If Rand Paul ends up being “the” candidate — I’m staying home.


5 posted on 03/11/2014 7:46:35 AM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.))
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To: areukiddingme1

Already??


6 posted on 03/11/2014 7:48:11 AM PDT by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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To: SoConPubbie

The press has anointed Rand Paul, and he’s venal enough to believe he can be President, even with his whack job Daddy who will not be able to restrain himself once Paul wins the nomination.

Cruz, in my opinion, is a guy who can win and is conservative enough to change things in DC. If he can’t do it, they should drop a nuke on DC during SOTU and start over. All kidding aside. It’s come to that.


7 posted on 03/11/2014 7:49:13 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: SoConPubbie

Looks like the new owners of Village Voice Media don’t own backpage.com anymore, but there are still plenty of sex ads and the controversy about the nature of the women being sold is still open.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/village-voice-splits-sex-ad-linked-backpage


8 posted on 03/11/2014 7:49:27 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: SoConPubbie
The "Houston Press" is pretty far out on the left fringe of the political spectrum so I rarely take to heart anything they have to say about anyone or anything on the political right. This sounds like a social liberal (maybe a libertarian) political hack hoping and wishing Sen Cruz would just go away.

Here's to Sen. Ted Cruz for President in 2016. And (hopefully) Sarah Palin for VP. I'm sure a place can be found for Rand Paul somewhere in a Cruz Administration.

9 posted on 03/11/2014 7:50:57 AM PDT by Ron H. (Ted Cruz for President in 2016.)
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To: areukiddingme1

Okay, thanks in advance for all your help in getting another democrat, maybe even Hillary, in the WH.

Cruz is my first choice as of now, but Rand Paul is hardly a RINO. There is a lot of time left...I’m sure you will be paying attention and ultimately make the right decision.


10 posted on 03/11/2014 7:51:25 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: originalbuckeye

Too soon?


11 posted on 03/11/2014 7:52:16 AM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.))
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To: SoConPubbie

The Houston Press? Really, wow, this is a new low, even for you. Guess you will be posting articles from HuPo next.


12 posted on 03/11/2014 7:52:21 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: SoConPubbie

http://www.houstonpress.com/2013-11-28/news/turkeys-of-the-year-2013/


13 posted on 03/11/2014 7:52:59 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: originalbuckeye
"Already??"

Yep, we can see our party setting up the circular firing squads to take out any Republican for horrible sins like not chewing the same gum as they do or whatever.


14 posted on 03/11/2014 7:53:09 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obozo Care is a Trinity of Lies! Obozo Care is probably a serious Black Swan event.)
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To: SoConPubbie

They can point out Reagan’s rule about not criticizing fellow Republicans but I dare say the ones being criticized are not true Republicans. Reagan himself would have a hard time not calling these backstabbing traitors on the carpet.


15 posted on 03/11/2014 7:54:21 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: SoConPubbie

If we have a paul vs cruz war, Cruz will win. It is an odd willingness to bluntly tell it like it is in a sort of Sarah Palin way, but he has a LOT more credibility, mainly because he’s a man and a senator. Yes, the liberals that hate Palin are overtly sexist about it. They can’t play that card against Cruz. It really leaves them with nothing.


16 posted on 03/11/2014 7:54:23 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: areukiddingme1

Well I’m for Palin myself.

But Paul and Cruz are both strong challengers.

I say Palin 2016.


17 posted on 03/11/2014 7:54:59 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ( http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
This bit between Rand Paul and Ted Cruz seems a bit set-up actually

As long as the attention stays on them, and folks are choosing either Cruz or Paul, we can end up with a Cruz/Paul or Paul/Cruz ticket. That's much better than letting a RINO gain traction.

As far as the rifts they have? I'd say they complement each other and together they can solve a lot of problems.

18 posted on 03/11/2014 7:57:53 AM PDT by grania
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To: Resolute Conservative
They can point out Reagan’s rule about not criticizing fellow Republicans but I dare say the ones being criticized are not true Republicans. Reagan himself would have a hard time not calling these backstabbing traitors on the carpet.

Agreed 100%

19 posted on 03/11/2014 7:58:25 AM PDT by Ron H. (Ted Cruz for President in 2016.)
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To: SoConPubbie

BTW there was already a thread on Pauls remarks, but I guess you prefer the Houston Press to Breitbart.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3131636/posts


20 posted on 03/11/2014 8:00:37 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: areukiddingme1

YES! Just fodder for the Dems. They LOVE internal division......and they sow a lot of the seeds to create it. Can anyone say James Carville?


21 posted on 03/11/2014 8:01:16 AM PDT by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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To: Resolute Conservative
They can point out Reagan’s rule about not criticizing fellow Republicans but I dare say the ones being criticized are not true Republicans. Reagan himself would have a hard time not calling these backstabbing traitors on the carpet.

Right on the money. The GOPe pukes, among them, Boehner and McConnell have moved left of the RAT party of the early 80s.

Reagan would not hesitate to call them out.

For all those who think Rand Paul is Conservative, I have one thing to say -- explain his support for McConnell.

Anyone who truly cherishes our Constitution knows clearly and without a doubt that McConnell is direct threat to our Republic.

22 posted on 03/11/2014 8:01:23 AM PDT by sand88 (We can never legislate our way back to Liberty)
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To: SoConPubbie
Reagan's 11th Commandment has as its premise the assumption that all republican politicians believe in the essential planks of the party's platform - curbing wasteful spending, decentralization/localization of government control, strong defense, etc.

Perhaps this was true 30 years ago, but there is plenty of evidence these days indicating that is not the case. These phonies have been winning office by running as 'conservatives' and running the country as socialists.

Someone needs to call them out.

23 posted on 03/11/2014 8:03:13 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: grania

With either Cruz or Paul or Palin at the top of the ticket you will need a “moderate” as VP to expand the voters pool to get elected. Yeah that sucks, but Cruz/Christie, Paul/Bush, Palin/Ryan or something like that is what it will take to win. Notice also that there is a state governor on each ticket. Voters like state governors, they have executive experiences and a track record of the same.


24 posted on 03/11/2014 8:05:56 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: originalbuckeye; SoConPubbie
"Just fodder for the Dems. They LOVE internal division"

Sounds like SoConPubbie.

25 posted on 03/11/2014 8:08:06 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: jpsb
If Christie, Bush, Ryan or anyone else who's a friend of the RINO/Chamber of Commerce branch of the party is on the ticket, they lose my vote. A compromise ticket will not win people over. Cruz and Paul together will win, with an appeal to young voters and those fed up with status quo politicians.

Don't you get it? Nobody wants people who bent to the will of the elite.

26 posted on 03/11/2014 8:10:41 AM PDT by grania
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To: jpsb

Ryan would be a good pick if he didn’t have Romney-itis.


27 posted on 03/11/2014 8:12:00 AM PDT by darkangel82
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To: SoConPubbie

Thanks for this thread.

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HEY! Dianna Wray! Yeah YOU!

These were the lead words in your article: “Lots of people in the Republican party are fed up with Sen. Ted Cruz, but Sen. Rand Paul is the guy who is doing something about it.”

The phrase “Lots of People in the Republican Party” implies that there are so many people that you do not even have to document that any of them have names!

We Conservatives have names for these “Lots of People in the Republican Party,” and they are known to us collectively as “Republicans in Name Only,” “RINOs,” or RINO Cowards.

In the US House the Leadership of the RINO Cowards include “Benghazi Cover Up” Boehner, “Can’t Impeach Obama” Cantor, and “Cave In” Ryan.

In “Do Nothing Legal” Reid’s US Senate, the Leadership of the RINO Cowards include “Son-of-a-Mitch” McConnell, “Corrupt as they come” Cornyn, and Loser Emeritus “Wacko Bird” McCain.

The above partial list of your “Lots of People” are all RINO Cowards, tried and true who have done their best to avoid doing their Constitutional Duty for the last five years of lawless Obamanation Rule.

Replacement of these RINO Cowards is essential to the survival of the US Constitution by either Senator Paul or Senator Cruz.

BTW, all of us Conservatives have been fed up, for more years than we care to remember, with you journalists in the Left Stream Media.


28 posted on 03/11/2014 8:23:16 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Graewoulf

She doesn’t want the Republicans to win.

Holding out hope for a Wendy Davis governor win.

HairBalls (which is where her columns run) is a bratty column in the Houston Press where libs laugh at Republicans, religious observers, and the Texans NFL franchise.


29 posted on 03/11/2014 8:43:14 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: jpsb; originalbuckeye
Sounds like SoConPubbie.

Given the number of negative posts on this thread by you I'd say that something hit a nerve.
30 posted on 03/11/2014 8:46:21 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: skeeter
Reagan's 11th Commandment has as its premise the assumption that all republican politicians believe in the essential planks of the party's platform - curbing wasteful spending, decentralization/localization of government control, strong defense, etc.

People, mainly GOP-E types, like to hide behind the Reagan's 11th commandment so that they can shut off discussion of the truth. Sadly, Rand Paul is the latest to take up this ruse.

The same Reagan who came up with the 11th commandment, also came up with this:

"We don't intend to turn the Republican Party over to the traitors in the battle just ended. We will have no more of those candidates who are pledged to the same goals as our opposition and who seek our support. Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn’t make any sense at all." -- President Ronald Reagan
31 posted on 03/11/2014 8:49:22 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Resolute Conservative
Reagan's 11th Commandment has as its premise the assumption that all republican politicians believe in the essential planks of the party's platform - curbing wasteful spending, decentralization/localization of government control, strong defense, etc.

Very True.

The same Reagan had this to say about GOP-E types in his day:

"We don't intend to turn the Republican Party over to the traitors in the battle just ended. We will have no more of those candidates who are pledged to the same goals as our opposition and who seek our support. Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn’t make any sense at all." -- President Ronald Reagan
32 posted on 03/11/2014 8:51:56 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: a fool in paradise

Yup, even in TEXAS we have a few Obamanation supporters.

BTW, have you noticed how the Left Stream Media supports all Cave Ins to Obama by Doormat RINO Cowards Boehner, Cantor, Ryan, McConnell, Cornyn and “Wacko Bird” McCain?

Yes indeedy! Doormat RINO Cowards are Obama’s best friends forever!

FORWARD !


33 posted on 03/11/2014 8:53:32 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: SoConPubbie
Paul or Cruz either would be fine by me. Both would be great.

My only absolute "I'm voting 3rd party" guy is Christie - and this is from a guy who voted twice for him for governor.

I have higher standards for America than I do for Jersey.

34 posted on 03/11/2014 8:56:22 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: SoConPubbie

And that is why i wont be voting for randy paul in the primary.


35 posted on 03/11/2014 9:53:11 AM PDT by subterfuge (CBS NBC ABC FOX AP-- all no different than Pravda.)
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To: Mich Patriot

RANDY Paul breaks the Rragan rule about not speaking ill of other republicans.

Every hack liberal newsie in the country will be quoting him and slamming Cruz. F%#@ RANDY Paul.


36 posted on 03/11/2014 9:57:59 AM PDT by subterfuge (CBS NBC ABC FOX AP-- all no different than Pravda.)
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To: subterfuge

Point taken, but again I say IF HE ENDS UP BEING THE NOMINEE AND WE DON’T VOTE, WE GIVE THE PRESIDENCY TO THE DEMS AGAIN. I’d rather DIE than see another eight years of commie red.

Romney wouldn’t have been in my top 20 even, but he would have been much better Pres than Obama. Or do you not even agree with THAT?


37 posted on 03/11/2014 10:10:41 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: Mich Patriot
I agree with you. We must all make our vote count...we must all work together to make this a WIN for Conservatives. And to the FReeper who plans to sit home if he doesn't get his, telling everyone you're going to stay home if your candidate doesn't win is loser's talk. We don't want to hear what you WON'T do. We want to hear what you WILL DO to make sure a true Conservative is elected. I disagree with Rand Paul on certain issues, but he does have a place in our Conservative government..he is a good man. There is sufficient time for Conservative candidates to tell us what they stand for and believe in, and propose to do. Stay tuned, everybody. We must think and act positively...negative talk is poison.
38 posted on 03/11/2014 10:41:59 AM PDT by itssme
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To: areukiddingme1

A Stay AT Home is a vote to let hitlery win and to let America finish bleeding out.

There is probably not a dime’s difference between Rand and Cruz, either will do America right.


39 posted on 03/11/2014 11:12:44 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: X-spurt; All

“There is probably not a dime’s difference between Rand and Cruz, either will do America right.”

But that is where we disagree — There is a continent between them on the US as a superpower and on marijuana.


40 posted on 03/11/2014 11:35:41 AM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.))
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To: SoConPubbie

The Paulista is a sell out.


41 posted on 03/11/2014 2:42:50 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: Mich Patriot

I tend to agree with you but its way too early to say Randy Paul is my guy. Can’t he buy a vowel and finish his name? Just sayin’.


42 posted on 03/11/2014 3:27:21 PM PDT by subterfuge (CBS NBC ABC FOX AP-- all no different than Pravda.)
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To: subterfuge

The party deserves bashing


43 posted on 03/11/2014 3:28:55 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Mich Patriot
Oh, and btw, I'm in FL so the nominee will already be decided by the time our primary rolls around. Always is, sadly.
44 posted on 03/11/2014 3:30:31 PM PDT by subterfuge (CBS NBC ABC FOX AP-- all no different than Pravda.)
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To: subterfuge

Agreed


45 posted on 03/11/2014 4:37:31 PM PDT by Ron H. (Ted Cruz for President in 2016.)
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To: VRWC For Truth
The Paulista is a sell out.

Agreed. Of the two men being discussed here one is a morality based individual with solid principles and the other is a political opportunist who will cave on the key issues when pushed into a corner. Of those two choices it is an easy choice for me. I'll take morals any day of the week.

46 posted on 03/11/2014 4:45:41 PM PDT by Ron H. (Ted Cruz for President in 2016.)
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To: SoConPubbie

47 posted on 03/11/2014 5:00:40 PM PDT by Ron H. (Ted Cruz for President in 2016.)
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To: areukiddingme1

You may have me there. Cruz is more conservative, Rand grew up in a Libertarian atmosphere, so he does have a bit of it. I think Rand will not force any Libertarianism on America.

First and foremost I am a Cruz supporter. Either of them I will vote for in a New York minute.

Jeb or Chris, I may have to hold my nose so hard it’ll require surgery. After the mcLame nose holding, my tolerance is way down, even if Sarah throws in with them.


48 posted on 03/11/2014 5:39:55 PM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: subterfuge

I’m not saying Rand is the best either, but I’m surprised anyone on this blog would stay home of he were to become the nominee. He’s preferable to 90% of the republican names being circulated, and at least leans concervative.


49 posted on 03/12/2014 4:29:18 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: SoConPubbie
But I will remind anyone who thinks we will win elections by trashing previous Republican nominees or holding oneself out as some paragon in the mold of Reagan, that splintering the party is not the route to victory."

I would point out to the gentlemen that the party has no demonstrated clue about the route to victory...and remind him that the eGOP has declared war on the Tea Party.

50 posted on 03/12/2014 4:47:10 PM PDT by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the Republican Party does not want you.)
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