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Young Republicans Find Fault With Elders on List of Social Issues
NY Times ^ | March 10, 2014 | Jonathan Martin

Posted on 03/11/2014 9:26:57 AM PDT by C19fan

It was difficult to miss Ian Jacobson at the Conservative Political Action Conference. Known as Rooster, he was 33, with an ample beard, earrings and a towering orange-and-aqua spiked Mohawk haircut. But he also sported a pinstriped suit, French cuffs and a natty contrast collar.

Mr. Jacobson’s sartorial contradictions matched those of his politics: He is among the young Republicans who are pro-free market on fiscal issues and libertarian on social ones. While his views represent a potential growth wing for a party that is losing among other demographic groups, they also show an emerging tension with the older social conservatives at the core of the party’s base.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: conservative; cpac; dnctalkingpoints; ianjacobson; legalpot; libertarian; libertarians; obamavoters; pravdamedia; ronpaulians; rooster; samesexmarriage; sanantonio; sociallyliberal; youngrepublicans
Will there ever be a point in the future where the GOP will decide keeping SoCons is not worth losing these type of Millenial voters? It seems given the demographics, SoCons are older, that day is a possibility.
1 posted on 03/11/2014 9:26:57 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan
While his views represent a potential growth wing for a party that is losing among other demographic groups, they also show an emerging tension with the older social conservatives at the core of the party’s base.

That's because older conservatives aren't dumb enough to be fooled by liberals masquerading as conservatives.

If you ain't a so-con, you ain't no-con.
2 posted on 03/11/2014 9:31:53 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: C19fan

There are many of us out here (I’m 34) who champion social conservatism in the vein of our Founders. Not all of us want social moderation, and there’s a growing cadre of us who espouse Christian conservatism in the same way our Founders saw it as necessary and critical to our foundational elements.


3 posted on 03/11/2014 9:33:06 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: C19fan

Cute. You know. They bring change and yet have not faced the real change that real life is going to do on them.

The arrogance is unbelievable.

My bet is these people have zero humility, consideration or character to defend the shed blood of the past, let alone their political beliefs (not withstanding oxymoronics). Like liberals of the past praising divorce all of a sudden attacking anyome mocking a homosexual marriage.

The elite must be laughing hard at these morons made to feel happy dressed like clowns living lives of clown, simply because the Fed Reserve gave them false money.


4 posted on 03/11/2014 9:35:05 AM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: C19fan

The problem is the “all or nothing” form of today’s politics.

The idea of not voting for someone because of one stance on one issue is a little short sited.

So the libertarian Republican voted for Obama because of Mitt’s social views?

What good is it to have a made up family when the D’s have trashed the economy so bad that you can’t feed them?


5 posted on 03/11/2014 9:37:10 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: C19fan

Guess that is America’s future. Go to hell and truly become the next Sodom And Gomorrah. What a future. Hope you all have a great time. Drink, eat and be merry. Anyone can whatever he or she wants. Play with your ‘ipod’ and people no longer matter.


6 posted on 03/11/2014 9:38:44 AM PDT by mulligan (I)
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To: cripplecreek

Pond Pirates who are not seeing the Tsunami waves about to engulf them and their wicked pond lives.

The Devil tests the souls but God’s test is more salient.


7 posted on 03/11/2014 9:38:49 AM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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“I want us to return to our roots,” Mr. Jacobson said while attending the conference over the weekend. A self-described “libertarian-leaning Republican” from San Antonio, he sketched out his ideal political party as one that freed individuals to chart their own course in their personal and professional lives.

This young one seems not to realize one of the roots of the Republican besides Free Soil was forbidding Utah to become a state as long as polygamy was legal. Both slavery and polygamy were called " "twin relics of barbarism."

8 posted on 03/11/2014 9:39:05 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: PeteB570

Indeed... if there was one issue of rally it would be gun control.

It seems even there the single issue voters have their heads up their heinies.

No, what this is is propaganda and embrace of it. Purges will follow once their firmly stupidly adopted language will be discarded for other uses.

Indeed, before God acts, there will be many changes in languages... and those whose body is stuck with it will be truly obsolete and discarded. These people are robot and only repeat the feel good crap they were fed.


9 posted on 03/11/2014 9:43:48 AM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: C19fan

I personally have no desire to live in a Sodom and Gomorrah which just happens to have a free market economic system.


10 posted on 03/11/2014 9:48:24 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: C19fan

This republic will be dead long before that. I’ve said time and time again, the party would stand to gain more votes by droping fiscal issues than social ones. Just embrace welfare and outbid Democrats. What’s the difference. These potheads want a second DemoRat party.


11 posted on 03/11/2014 9:52:25 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: C19fan

Return to our roots? So back when Sodomy was a criminal offense, or does this tool not know what our roots are
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12 posted on 03/11/2014 9:53:59 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: PeteB570
The idea of not voting for someone because of one stance on one issue is a little short sited.

Of course it is but some issues are of more importance to others. On the other hand both conservatives and libertarians need to be able to compromise on lesser issues. For instance drug legalization. I'm not a fan of drug legalization but I would be OK with decriminalization primarily because it wouldn't grow government.

Another issue is the great many who are hard left liberals who are simply and knowingly lying. They go to GOP events and pimp their liberalism and run right out and vote straight democrat ticket. I've got a militant far left lesbian cousin who calls herself GOPproud and hates conservatives.
13 posted on 03/11/2014 9:55:52 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

I once heard someone on the radio say that Libertarians are nothing more than confused Liberals. I don’t remember who. I know it wasn’t Rush.


14 posted on 03/11/2014 9:58:10 AM PDT by Jean2
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To: C19fan
He is among the young Republicans who are pro-free market on fiscal issues and libertarian on social ones.

Isn't this the proof of the total breakdown of America that we discuss, and now we see that the left is totally successful.

This idiot likes conservative economics, but he has been so dumbed down, that he doesn't understand that social liberalism makes them impossible. He doesn't know what gave us big government and welfare, and socialism in the first place.

Libertariansm/social liberalism, creates more voters for the left, not more Evangelical voters, it has been working for the left, for 60 years.

15 posted on 03/11/2014 9:59:48 AM PDT by ansel12 (Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism.)
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To: C19fan

Social conservatism is important. America has lost its way because it lost its morals. Social conservatism helps (or should-have-helped, anyways) defend those morals.


16 posted on 03/11/2014 10:01:19 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: cripplecreek

Any young moron who is not a homosexual but would discount voting for a conservative because of queer marriage is not someone I want in the party anyway. Useless idiots.


17 posted on 03/11/2014 10:03:59 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Jean2

There is a whole range of libertarians but there are some who are just lying liberals that have figured out that the GOP is so desperate to pander to them that they’ll do or say anything for the false belief that they’ll get their votes.


18 posted on 03/11/2014 10:06:18 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: ansel12

Its social anarchy that breeds poverty! And that in turn gives us the welfare state. This rooster degenerate needs to cut his hair and go back to the Daily Paul


19 posted on 03/11/2014 10:06:29 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Viennacon

A while back on “How the states got their shapes” on the history channel they quizzed a college republican (Male) and a college liberal (female).

When asked about gay marriage the liberal was obviously for it the “young Republican” said he wants same sex marriage someday because he hopes to get married himself.

Obviously a major part of the problem is the state run indoctrination centers.


20 posted on 03/11/2014 10:13:06 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: C19fan

21 posted on 03/11/2014 10:13:21 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: C19fan
He had a ready assessment of his party’s opposition to same-sex marriage and legalization of marijuana: “It’s ridiculous, it’s time-consuming and it’s taking focus away from where it should be — on economic issues.”

Baraka Obama Um Um Um is the one who's made gay-marriage the #1 issue of the day.

Vent your outrage regarding the economy at The Man.

22 posted on 03/11/2014 10:15:53 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: cripplecreek

How true.


23 posted on 03/11/2014 10:17:35 AM PDT by Jean2
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To: PeteB570
So the libertarian Republican voted for Obama because of Mitt’s social views?

No.

SoCons stayed home.

24 posted on 03/11/2014 10:29:19 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68

In the case of Romney he was simply a piece of crap candidate nobody was excited about.


25 posted on 03/11/2014 10:36:24 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Agreed.


26 posted on 03/11/2014 10:50:03 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: C19fan
Will there ever be a point in the future where the GOP will start educating Generation.commers as to why conservatism -- fiscal AND social -- is the only way to ensure the continued survival of our Republic? You know, like President Reagan communicated with people, instead of talking over their heads? You know, how President Reagan reached out, connected with millions on the other side, and converted them to conservatism? You know, how President Reagan didn't sell out his conservative principles, in the name of Big Tent Pubbieism, which is nothing but selling out to the Left?

Sheesh...when is the GOP going to draw a line, and fight back -- and by fighting back, I mean teaching Generation.commers why conservatism is right, and Leftist, pro-homo crap is the downfall of our society? Holy cow...what a bunch of surrender monkeys.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

27 posted on 03/11/2014 10:51:02 AM PDT by wku man (We are the 53%! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUXN0GDuLN4)
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To: Viennacon

The law is a teacher. Now that sodomy is a right there is a lot more of it if you believe the press. Maybe make sodomy a misdemeanor like traffic tickets and just give warnings and community sevice in aids wards and the neurologists who treat anal rectal problems caused by nerve damage.

Will wait for objections sure to come


28 posted on 03/11/2014 10:52:01 AM PDT by amihow
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To: a fool in paradise
While I don't care one bit what people look like -- there are plenty of good, conservative patriots out there with tattoos and piercings -- that guy is just another "look at me" hipster. Forwarding this article to DieHipster.com.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

29 posted on 03/11/2014 10:55:13 AM PDT by wku man (We are the 53%! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUXN0GDuLN4)
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To: C19fan
Will there ever be a point in the future where the GOP will decide keeping SoCons is not worth losing these type of Millenial voters?

You mean like the Massachusetts GOP has been doing for decades? If a social conservative declares, the state GOP will actually recruit a social liberal to run against him in the primary. It's working really great electorally -- the GOP holds 10% to 12% of the state legislature, zero statewide offices, and zero representation in the congressional delegation!

30 posted on 03/11/2014 10:58:33 AM PDT by maryz
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To: wku man

They all look like hipsters except they are poli-sci geeks instead of vinyl nerds.


31 posted on 03/11/2014 10:58:57 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: Viennacon
Its social anarchy that breeds poverty! And that in turn gives us the welfare state. This rooster degenerate needs to cut his hair and go back to the Daily Paul

Yep, libertarianism is a liberal voter creation machine.

32 posted on 03/11/2014 11:02:41 AM PDT by ansel12 (Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism.)
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To: cripplecreek
In the case of Romney he was simply a piece of crap candidate nobody was excited about.

I held my nose and voted for Mitt...it didn't do a damn thing to help. I'm not playing this game anymore.

Mitt actually turned me off during his first run, when he made that soul-less comment regarding his sons' not volunteering for military service. Remember that? "I think my sons are serving their country by helping me get elected President". That one comment opened a brief look into the soul of Mitt Romney, i.e. nothing...zero, zip, nada. It's only about him.

If that's the best the Republicans can do, then I'm looking elsewhere.

33 posted on 03/11/2014 11:06:47 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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To: rarestia

I’ll worry about this when it’s reported by some honest media. . . NYT is much like CBS and not to be trusted.


34 posted on 03/11/2014 11:14:01 AM PDT by SouthCarolinaKit
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To: wku man
that guy is just another "look at me" hipster.

That guy is an idiot.

35 posted on 03/11/2014 11:17:52 AM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for RINOs is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: a fool in paradise

He looks like what would happen if Rutherford B. Hayes f**ked a parrot.


36 posted on 03/11/2014 11:48:43 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Revolting cat!; Slings and Arrows
He looks like what would happen if Rutherford B. Hayes f**ked a parrot.


37 posted on 03/11/2014 11:53:44 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: cripplecreek

Insanity reigns


38 posted on 03/11/2014 12:00:38 PM PDT by Viennacon
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