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5-alarm fire burning at high-rise building on 4th Street near China Basin in San Francisco
abclocal.go.com ^ | 3/11/14

Posted on 03/11/2014 6:19:03 PM PDT by GSWarrior

SAN FRANCISCO (KGO) -- A 5-alarm fire is burning at a high-rise building under construction on 4th Street near China Basin in San Francisco. The blaze was reported at 4:56 p.m. at Fourth and China Basin streets. The building is reportedly apartments that were set to open in a few months. The property that is burning does not belong to the nearby University of California at San Francisco, a UCSF spokeswoman said. San Francisco Fire Department spokesperson Mindy Talmadge says there is a lot of radiant heat coming from the burning building. Firefighters have decided to pull back from the fire due to concerns about collapse. Shortly after 6 p.m., part of the building appeared to collapse in on itself.

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KEYWORDS: arson; fire; sanfrancisco
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Very close to SF Giants baseball park.
1 posted on 03/11/2014 6:19:03 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: GSWarrior

Unoccupied, I hope.


2 posted on 03/11/2014 6:21:11 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: GSWarrior

That “high-rise” can be no higher than 5 stories, there, I believe.

It’s really close to Twitter.

This might be related to OWS dirt-heads hating “gentrification” by Googlers, et. al.


3 posted on 03/11/2014 6:22:26 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: GSWarrior

Lots and lots of computer gaming startups there:

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.777765,-122.395831,3a,90y,206.95h,108.18t/data=!3m3!1e1!3m1!2e0!6m1!1e1

Select streetview


4 posted on 03/11/2014 6:23:28 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin

I agree with you.


5 posted on 03/11/2014 6:23:46 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: GSWarrior

not to worry, Queen Pelosi is coming to the rescue.


6 posted on 03/11/2014 6:25:54 PM PDT by Cruz_West_Paul2016
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To: Jet Jaguar

7 posted on 03/11/2014 6:26:23 PM PDT by caww
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8 posted on 03/11/2014 6:27:39 PM PDT by caww
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9 posted on 03/11/2014 6:28:26 PM PDT by caww
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10 posted on 03/11/2014 6:29:34 PM PDT by caww
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11 posted on 03/11/2014 6:30:21 PM PDT by caww
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12 posted on 03/11/2014 6:31:25 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww
Here you can see it starting to collapse


13 posted on 03/11/2014 6:32:48 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

That passes for a high rise in San Francisco? There are buildings more than twice that tall in Frisco, Texas.


14 posted on 03/11/2014 6:32:50 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: caww

WOW...is the darkness an effect of the camera...it’s still daylight out there now?


15 posted on 03/11/2014 6:33:22 PM PDT by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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16 posted on 03/11/2014 6:34:23 PM PDT by caww
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To: nascarnation

Post 11 shows how dark the smoke was early on


17 posted on 03/11/2014 6:35:27 PM PDT by caww
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To: PAR35

Yea, but before those you had the grain silo and some of the best dove hunting in the fields between there and Little Elm.


18 posted on 03/11/2014 6:36:25 PM PDT by Texaspeptoman (Even cannibals get fed-up with people sometimes...!)
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To: caww

Does the owner have to get an emergency permit for the air pollution?


19 posted on 03/11/2014 6:38:28 PM PDT by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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It’s near AT&T Park.

Hearing rumors it’s Bush’s fault.


20 posted on 03/11/2014 6:40:21 PM PDT by Kevin in California
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To: Jet Jaguar

There were no initial reports of injuries.

The four-alarm fire that began about 5 p.m. was ravaging a high-rise building under construction and moving down a block.

Fire-suppression systems had not yet been installed in the building, making the battle against the blaze more difficult, Fire Department spokeswoman Mindy Talmadge said.

http://www.kcra.com/news/3alarm-fire-burning-in-san-francisco-smoke-seen-for-miles/24927738


21 posted on 03/11/2014 6:40:50 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Welding torch?


22 posted on 03/11/2014 6:45:01 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: nascarnation
Does the owner have to get an emergency permit for the air pollution?

Hmmm. I don't remember hearing that today was a "Scare the Air" day. :)

That said, there is a high wind warning in effect for the Bay Area tonight. Let's hope SF's bravest can get this inferno mostly under control before sundown (about 7:15PM).

23 posted on 03/11/2014 6:45:02 PM PDT by ssaftler (Obama speaking is like the Fat Lady warming up: "Me Me Me Me Meeee")
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To: Irish Eyes

Might be but nothing reported yet from what I’ve seen as the cause...since a new building not yet completed some investor is not going to be a happy camper!


24 posted on 03/11/2014 6:46:42 PM PDT by caww
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To: GSWarrior

So?


25 posted on 03/11/2014 6:47:00 PM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: GSWarrior

What is going in is commuter BUSES belonging to financially healthy companies arrive in these neighborhoods to take young, well-paid programmers, etc. to companies in Silicon Valley.

The buses enable well-paid people to bid up the rents or restaurant bills of establishments that the outspoken, blue-haired, nipple-ring set naturally see as “belonging to them”.

In other cases the companies are located in that very neighborhood.

This is simply the envy and violence of the lefty poor/angry directed against people who actually STUDIED in college, instead of going to rallies.

They want to be cool in college, but also cool now, i.e. PAID as well as techno/engineering people.


26 posted on 03/11/2014 6:47:31 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: GSWarrior
That's a shame. Used to be a depressed area. But since the 1989 earthquake and the removal of the Embarcadero Freeway and the building of the SF Giants AT&T baseball park, the neighborhood has become a very desirable place to live/work.

The walk along the waterfront from AT&T Park, just to the north, to the Ferry Building is pure delight.

27 posted on 03/11/2014 6:48:30 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Kevin in California

i have an interesting question.what %% of the contracters/carpenters were legal/illegal?


28 posted on 03/11/2014 6:48:57 PM PDT by Cruz_West_Paul2016
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To: Kevin in California

well, didnt California Libs blame all fires on Global Warming?


29 posted on 03/11/2014 6:50:04 PM PDT by Cruz_West_Paul2016
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To: caww

It almost Chinatown you know what the cops said in the movie Chinatown Great movie

This is Chinatown LOL!


30 posted on 03/11/2014 6:51:27 PM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: caww

WHOA I didn’t see that part KNBC LA show it live for while


31 posted on 03/11/2014 6:52:03 PM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: PAR35

“That passes for a high rise in San Francisco? There are buildings more than twice that tall in Frisco, Texas.”

It’s on the waterfront! Tallest buildings in SF are over 50 stories. It’s an apartment complex. Building covers 4acres.


32 posted on 03/11/2014 6:53:03 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: GSWarrior

appears to be no longer smoking up the bay. Those were mostly just shells still under construction.


33 posted on 03/11/2014 6:53:14 PM PDT by no-s (when democracy is displaced by tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote)
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To: Cruz_West_Paul2016

Trust me give them time it early LOL!

3 2 1


34 posted on 03/11/2014 6:53:14 PM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: PAR35

Westfield, MA won’t let anyone build over 4 stories last I knew.


35 posted on 03/11/2014 6:56:08 PM PDT by matt04
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To: caww

Wow—what is fueling that fire?

It’s a building under construction. Assuming it has concrete floors and it has not progressed to the point where sprinkler systems are built and active, seems like an awfully large fire.

Walls would be steel studs and drywall. If sprinklers are not in, the ceilings are not in, and they would be either drywall or suspended tile.

Just seems like a big fire, and a big fire requires big fuel to burn.


36 posted on 03/11/2014 6:57:08 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: PapaNew

“The walk along the waterfront from AT&T Park, just to the north, to the Ferry Building is pure delight. “

True. Potrero Hill used to be a ghetto all the way down to Army St (excuse me, Cesar Chavez Blvd). Now all of the city housing there has been torn down and the whole 3rd St Corridor is being reborn as high-end residential property. The earthquake had the salutary effect of making mandatory the tearing down of the Embarcadero Freeway (that went nowhere). It was a “gift” to the city by Gov. Jerry the Fairy’s father Fat Pat Brown. The CA/SF haters may not like SF, but it sure is a beautiful place.


37 posted on 03/11/2014 7:05:41 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: exit82
That was my though also. But Check out the building in the foreground of the photo in post 11 also under construction, probably part of the same complex. Wood framed construction.

FWOOMP!

38 posted on 03/11/2014 7:07:03 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: GSWarrior

Probably an insurance job...

Amazing what is seen as breaking news....

Of course, every story on CNN and Fox etc., now are breaking news too...


39 posted on 03/11/2014 7:07:52 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Doomonyou

Yes, I was looking at the same picture. Wood framing on a high rise? Can’t imagine doing that—in an apartment building no less.

CA has all kinds of fire safety rules and flammability ratings for furnishings and materials.

Maybe we are not seeing wood materials there?

I don’t recognize the green cladding material either.


40 posted on 03/11/2014 7:09:43 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: exit82

Several years ago we had a large fire in a partially completed retirement community, just days before the sprinklers were set to be activated. I beleive it was ruled suspicious.


41 posted on 03/11/2014 7:10:46 PM PDT by matt04
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To: Doomonyou

San Francisco is know for it’s fires....


42 posted on 03/11/2014 7:12:43 PM PDT by maxsand
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To: GSWarrior

5-alarm fire in San francesspool? hmmm....

sounds Ike a great start


43 posted on 03/11/2014 7:14:25 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Doomonyou

On the left it appears to be some store of steel covering the roof. Possibly used wood to temporally close in some portions of of the building.


44 posted on 03/11/2014 7:15:32 PM PDT by matt04
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To: Doomonyou

Yikes. That’s a tough fire to fight.


45 posted on 03/11/2014 7:19:07 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: exit82
I don’t recognize the green cladding material either.

Probably Densglass. Exterior sheathing part of the one-hour (or two hour) requirements for fire resistivity.

Wood frame buildings can go to 4 or 5 stories depending on where you are building.

46 posted on 03/11/2014 7:19:10 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: Doomonyou

Yes. Guess that would be covered with a stucco material eventually.

These buildings look to be about 12 stories.


47 posted on 03/11/2014 7:23:42 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: GSWarrior

hmmm... thats right next to where I use to work, 3rd and Townsend.

and yes, it was literally a sh*thole. every night when leaving the building I’d have to step over bums in the doorways...and their piles of feces. yes, feces... right next to where they slept. dogs aren’t that filthy.

literally the dirtiest place I’ve lived/worked

burn it to the ground and bury in cement as far as I’m concerned.

hell, nuke it from orbit ... it’s the only way to be sure


48 posted on 03/11/2014 7:24:39 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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My guess its just a built up roof system, A lot of time they are painted silver to reflect heat. I was involved in a construction litigation case on a 16 floor mixed- use complex (Commercial on the ground floor, apartments above) right across from AT&T or PacBell, or what ever they call the place the Giants call home. Anyway, It had a silver colored build up roof system.


49 posted on 03/11/2014 7:26:00 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: vette6387; PAR35
“That passes for a high rise in San Francisco? There are buildings more than twice that tall in Frisco, Texas.”

100-ft high (roughly) buildings tend to fall down violently even during relatively light earthquakes. The typical ground movement couples with the typical building moment and destruction ensues within a few seconds. Earthquake labs and video of actual earthquakes confirmed this resonance phenomenon with a horrifying reality.

50 posted on 03/11/2014 7:29:18 PM PDT by no-s (when democracy is displaced by tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote)
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