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Poll: Should NJ pass a bill allowing adopted people to obtain birth certificates?
Star Ledger ^ | 02.13.2014

Posted on 03/11/2014 6:25:22 PM PDT by Coleus

Should New Jersey lawmakers pass a bill that would allow adopted people to obtain their original birth certificates, revealing their biological parents' identity?

On Monday, a state Assembly panel approved the measure, which would allow an adopted adult or an adoptive parent on a child's behalf to request his or her birth certificate from the state Health Department.

It's the latest bill to tackle the issue. Similar measures have failed for more than three decades.

Gov. Chris Christie conditionally vetoed a version in 2011, saying he would support a compromise that allowed a confidential intermediary to search for natural parents.

Opponents — including Catholic church leaders, anti-abortion rights advocates, the ACLU and the State Bar Association — say the measure takes away the privacy of birth mothers.

(Excerpt) Read more at nj.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: adoption; prolife
Please vote NO in both polls.

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1 posted on 03/11/2014 6:25:22 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: Coleus

I’m adopted. No.


2 posted on 03/11/2014 6:26:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...

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3 posted on 03/11/2014 6:32:18 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Me to..

No..


4 posted on 03/11/2014 6:35:30 PM PDT by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: Coleus

And people wonder why I went to the other side of the planet to adopt.


5 posted on 03/11/2014 6:37:31 PM PDT by papertyger (if disdain of homosexual behavior is "bigotry," is it any wonder hostility to Islam is "racism?")
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To: Coleus

Go to Hawaii and get your fake BC. You can be born in kenya and still get one.


6 posted on 03/11/2014 6:42:18 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Who but a TYRANT shoves down another man's throat what he has exempted himself from?)
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To: cableguymn

I looked up and met my “birth mother” through CUBS, but the state had nothing to do with it.

http://www.cubirthparents.org/


7 posted on 03/11/2014 6:43:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Coleus

I know 2 adopted kids that got their birth records and got in touch with the birth parents.
Both ‘reunions’ ended badly. Families ripped apart.

No


8 posted on 03/11/2014 6:56:44 PM PDT by Vinnie
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To: Vinnie

Sorry to hear that, Vinnie. Hope your family was not one of them.


9 posted on 03/11/2014 6:58:39 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“I’m adopted. No.”
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Not to be contrary, but why not? Is there a certificate that serves the same purposes as a birth certificate, but still keeps certain issues private, such as names of the birth parents.
What would people use in lieu of a birth certificate?
For example, what would you use for a passport application?


10 posted on 03/11/2014 7:04:34 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: AlexW

I’m not sure, but I think when one is adopted, they’re given a new birth certificate with their adoptive parents’ names on it. Which is why in the story they refer to the “original” birth certificate.


11 posted on 03/11/2014 7:09:12 PM PDT by same old song
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To: AlexW

A new birth certificate, with your new name, is issued at the time of adoption, so I have one, just like everyone else does.


12 posted on 03/11/2014 7:09:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: AlexW

The children are issued a birth certificate just like any other child. When the adoption is finalized, the adoptive parents can request that a new birth certificate be issued with the adoptive parents listed as the mother and father.


13 posted on 03/11/2014 7:16:14 PM PDT by oincobx
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“A new birth certificate, with your new name, is issued at the time of adoption, so I have one, just like everyone else does.”
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Ah, I now understand. I did not know that there was any other certificate, as you use.


14 posted on 03/11/2014 7:16:17 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: Coleus

I’m not adopted but I think this would be fine as long as the “original parent(s)” and the adopted person agreed to provide the information. That way both parties can protect themselves if desired.


15 posted on 03/11/2014 7:16:23 PM PDT by Fzob (Jesus + anything = nothing, Jesus + nothing = everything)
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To: Coleus

I have to go with yes on this. I know a couple of adopted people who can’t get ahold of theirs, and it’s a problem for them because they desperately need to research their medical history. There’s got to be an exception for that. Too much genetic illness to worry about.


16 posted on 03/11/2014 7:21:04 PM PDT by GAFreedom (Freedom rings in GA!)
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To: GAFreedom

adopted shortly after 1950 birth.

i have ALL the paperwork (BS’s, name change, yadda, yadda), including birth mothers’ name (and no mention of father on the document).

to my close friends I admit I am a certified bastard.

never had the LEAST desire to meet the original woman.

people who go chasing that rabbit are fools; the genetic information is likely not going to keep you from dieing sooner or later.

maybe they think it will.


17 posted on 03/11/2014 7:53:08 PM PDT by telstar12.5 (...always bring gunships to a gun fight...)
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To: GAFreedom

The agency that the adoption went through can usually assist with medical inquiries.


18 posted on 03/11/2014 8:24:00 PM PDT by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: AlexW

As an adoptive mother I can answer this. Both my daughters have birth certificates that were reissued with my husband and me as the birthparents after the adoptions were finalized. In fact they have both received passports using those birth certificates. This issue really gets me worked up because my oldest daughter was born to a birthmother who was married and her husband was not the father. Once she chose to give my daughter life and place her for adoption she chose to have no contact with us. She deserves that!! She chose to give her life, she deserves her privacy!


19 posted on 03/11/2014 8:31:50 PM PDT by republicanbred (...and when I die I'll be republican dead.)
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To: republicanbred; oincobx; 2ndDivisionVet

“As an adoptive mother I can answer this.”
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Thanks for your explanation. You, Oincobx, and Vet have cleared my confusion. I just never thought of birth certificates being adjustable.
Being a FReeper lets one learn just about anything ;)


20 posted on 03/11/2014 8:42:19 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

sounds fun if that is what you want to do.

At this time, I really have no interest in finding mine. My parents told me it was ok to look. They had actually gone looking for theirs and found most of the family. Worked out ok for them although my dad’s sister.. umm ya.. her husband was a piece of work. anywho.. I am happy with my current family. Maybe after my parents pass.. IDK. Birth parents only have 18 years on me so unless their number comes up early, I got time to change my mind.


21 posted on 03/11/2014 9:03:55 PM PDT by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: cableguymn

Mine passed not long after I found her.


22 posted on 03/11/2014 9:09:51 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: republicanbred

I can’t see why anyone would think this law is a good idea.


23 posted on 03/11/2014 9:23:37 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Coleus

They have to have a birth certificate or they can’t get a passport.

My father, born in Del Mar in 1902 had to sue the County of San Diego to get a birth certificate in order to get a passport.


24 posted on 03/11/2014 9:29:08 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I was adopted at 7 months. As far as I am concerned , my parents aren’t the ones who gave me genetic material they are the ones who fed me, clothed me and instilled their values in me to be the best daughter they could.

I have no desire to meet my birth parents, though I’m grateful for giving me the gift of life.


25 posted on 03/11/2014 10:19:52 PM PDT by Gefn (No whammies)
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To: Coleus

Nope.

I adopted my son and got him a new birth certificate. He’s been mine since he was 7 days old. His drug-addicted birth mother left the hospital shortly after he was born and never went back. Little dude was born a month premature and jonesin’ for crack.

I’ll go through hell and high water, scorching the earth with lead-pipe cruelty to protect him from that POS.

He’s 7 now. The only Laotian in a family of flour-white folks. He knows, but doesn’t really comprehend or even care about the difference, which is fine w/ me. If he’s ever interested in learning about his past, I’ll tell him and not hold back the truth of the matter. Once he’s 18, if he wishes to chase down that rabbit, he’ll be warned that what awaits him is only heartache.


26 posted on 03/12/2014 5:05:47 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("Scheming demons dressed in kingly guise, beating down the multitudes and scoffing at the wise.")
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