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Obama to order expansion of overtime pay for millions of workers
Foxnews ^ | March 12, 2014 | Foxnews

Posted on 03/12/2014 5:19:04 AM PDT by driftdiver

Feb. 12. 2014: President Obama, surrounded by workers, signs an executive order to raise the minimum wage for federal contract workers.AP

President Obama, flexing his executive authority once again, plans to order the Labor Department to expand overtime pay requirements to include millions more workers -- in a move likely to rankle the business community.

The president plans to make the announcement on Thursday at the White House, a senior administration official confirmed to Fox News. Though the administration has claimed previous executive actions had bipartisan support, officials are acknowledging that this particular move will anger business groups and congressional Republicans.

But the announcement would appear to dovetail with Democrats' election-year strategy of focusing on income inequality and the middle class.

The New York Times, citing White House officials briefed on the announcement, first reported that Obama will direct his Labor Department to require overtime pay for millions of workers currently classified as "executive or professional" employees.

The new regulations to the 1938 Fair Labor Standards Act reportedly would mandate that businesses provide overtime pay for those who work jobs as varied as fast-food restaurant managers, loan officers, and computer technicians. Currently, businesses are prohibited from denying overtime to a salaried worker making less than $455 per week. The rules that Obama is proposing would increase that salary threshold, though it was not clear by how much.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: incomeinequality; obama; overtime; overtimepay
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Depending on the new threshold this could be a killer
1 posted on 03/12/2014 5:19:04 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: driftdiver

Like any good foreigner, Obama is willing to kill the economy Americans just won’t kill.


2 posted on 03/12/2014 5:20:18 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: driftdiver; Nachum

3:34 Minutes
Time To Pay - Obama Wants More Overtime Regulation - Stuart Varney Fox & Friends

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-nuCZNUXOI


3 posted on 03/12/2014 5:25:06 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: driftdiver

His Highness the dictator declares another job killer.

“Bye, bye, Miss American pie” Obama is here and America died.


4 posted on 03/12/2014 5:29:58 AM PDT by FreedomGuru (Time for torches and pitchforks.)
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To: driftdiver

5 posted on 03/12/2014 5:31:49 AM PDT by Daffynition ("If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right." ~ Henry Ford)
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To: FreedomGuru

Again, this is what a majority of those who voted want. If they did not want it, they would have not voted for him.


6 posted on 03/12/2014 5:34:49 AM PDT by sport
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To: driftdiver

I’m surprised more people don’t support reform for this; the fact that there is a threshold at all means the business community has placed a de facto cap on many people’s earnings while retaining the right to work them to death. Unpaid overtime has always been a way for an employer to screw workers; I like seeing companies forced to pay out when it is determined they were supposed to be paying people OT for years but didn’t.

If workers continuously feel screwed, they’ll continuously vote Democrat; we’re going through our own communist revolution now in response to the dire straits many Americans feel themselves in.


7 posted on 03/12/2014 5:37:51 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

If they want overtime they can get a different job. Businesses budget a certain amount for salaries. They’ll just limit hours or fire people. If they can’t succeed without the labor they’ll change business models or go out of business. Either way the overtime leaches will be on unemployment.


8 posted on 03/12/2014 5:41:39 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

The comments at the NYT are what you’d expect...

I say nothing will change at the corporate profit end. They will “adjust” accordingly and the people Obama thinks he is “helping” will find themselves worse off now than they where before.
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9 posted on 03/12/2014 5:43:53 AM PDT by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: driftdiver

There do not appear to have been any federal employees that are paid less than 10.50 and hour before comrade illegal came up with it’s eo.


10 posted on 03/12/2014 5:46:42 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (Be kept informed on Maine's secession, sign up at freemaine@hushmail.com)
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To: driftdiver

Someone please inform me how this PUNK can assume the power to order wages?

And by the way, are ANY of his brain dead cultists ASKING WHY, if he DOES have the power, why did he wait SIX YEARS to do anything.

What a commie.


11 posted on 03/12/2014 5:47:42 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: driftdiver

I used to work for a shop that paid overtime for anything over 8 hours regardless of total hours worked per week.

I liked it but I would never presume to think it should be imposed on other employers.


12 posted on 03/12/2014 5:48:11 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: driftdiver
This article and how Obama plans changes to the the law is totally unclear. Salaried employees are considered exempt. Meaning they do not receive hourly pay or over time. Any hourly employee that works over 40 hr a week is paid overtime.

If they change the law eliminating exempt employees below a arbitrary threshold say like $40,000 per year a lot of people will lose their jobs.

13 posted on 03/12/2014 5:48:46 AM PDT by Clean_Sweep
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To: driftdiver

Agreed. This is coming from a salaried worker who appreciates the difficulties running a business. I work when I need to and don’t mind putting in extra hours.


14 posted on 03/12/2014 5:55:25 AM PDT by grimalkin (We are a nation under God. If we ever forget this, we are a nation gone under. -Ronald Reagan)
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To: sport

Just in the last month I’ve heard scores of former Obama supporters say they wish the’d never voted for him. Two were former big-time supporters andeven campaigned for him. They were definitely gullible low information voters whose decisions and votes are based on emotion and what they are led to believe.

On another note, I read that Holder’s DOJ has really been applying intense pressure on Arpaio because of the info he was going to release on The Chosen One this month. Looks like they really don’t want that info released’ however someone spoke with Arpaio personally on the 10th and he said more info is coming and they are continuing their efforts. I’m not holding my breath but I’d like to hear what mind-blowing info they have that allegedly goes far beyond just the fake birth certificate. I’’m guessing they found info indicating that he’s a plant from a foreign government...?


15 posted on 03/12/2014 5:58:41 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: SoFloFreeper

Its the 4th branch of govt in the fine print of the Constitution. Federal regulations of course. Time to reign in the feds, past time.


16 posted on 03/12/2014 6:11:49 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

“If they want overtime they can get a different job.”

Not so easy these days (and companies know it); that response is simply met by fed-up workers with votes for the communists.

“If they can’t succeed without the labor they’ll change business models or go out of business.”

No; they go elsewhere to places where they can work people to death for peanuts. By all indications, any company that hasn’t already done so is working on it. I live in an area where mining was a big driver of the economy since prior to the American Revolution, and the conditions were bleak; we’re seeing the return of those same conditions.


17 posted on 03/12/2014 6:11:54 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: cripplecreek

If you take a job under certain conditions then you and the employer should live up to it.

When the rules change then so will the job.


18 posted on 03/12/2014 6:12:46 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: grimalkin

As a business owner I’m amazed at how many people will sit and talk for long periods, be late, leave early and so on. yet I bet they’ll be the first to want over time.

If he sets the threshold high I see several employees in my company losing their jobs.


19 posted on 03/12/2014 6:15:19 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Isn’t that the truth!??!! Years ago, I became the supervisor in an office where the employees had 15 minutes breaks (not mandated by law) every morning and afternoon. And full freedom to get coffee, go to the restroom, chat, personal phone calls, etc., whenever they wanted to. I told them they had to decide between having the breaks or the “freedom”. They elected to give up the breaks.


20 posted on 03/12/2014 6:23:00 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: driftdiver

I have personally experienced retail chains abusing salaried “managers” by expecting them to put in 60-70 hours per week.

That being said....where does Obama get off doing this with a stroke of his pen?


21 posted on 03/12/2014 6:24:12 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: jsanders2001
I would not them saying that, but you got to take into account that if they had the sense to get in out of the rain, they would not have voted for him the first time, let alone the second. And if they can be fooled one time, they can be fooled again when necessary. What is happening with them is that they are in the process of reaping the seeds they sowed on November 4, 2008 and November 6, 2012.

That you can even associate with Obama voters shows that you are a better man than I.

22 posted on 03/12/2014 6:25:12 AM PDT by sport
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Sure some companies do that. There are other jobs out there.

Before I started my company I refused more than one job from companies that abused their employees. Those companies typically don’t fare well in the long run.


23 posted on 03/12/2014 6:28:40 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: jsanders2001
I’ve heard scores of former Obama supporters say they wish the’d never voted for him.

Gee, that helps. That helps a lot. Thanks, dingbats.

24 posted on 03/12/2014 6:38:25 AM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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To: sport

> That you can even associate with Obama voters shows that you are a better man than I.

Not that I want to. One of them dates someone I know an no I’m not a buddy of his. Just know him. He’s a younger liberal but won’t be much longer from the looks of things.


25 posted on 03/12/2014 6:44:16 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: driftdiver

A true communist believes that employers exploit their employees. This is just one more step toward the complete takeover of the means of production by the government.


26 posted on 03/12/2014 6:54:07 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: I want the USA back

Plenty of posters here think all employers exploit, kinda sad.

My employers are part of the team. They get above average pay, above average benefits, flexible work schedule, training, and work they enjoy. yes sometimes they are asked to work 70 hours a week. Many times its a relaxed 35.

Mandatory OT will put some of them out on the street.


27 posted on 03/12/2014 7:06:02 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
Those companies typically don’t fare well in the long run.

How true, how true. My resume reads like a Who's Who of Chapter 11 Bankruptcy. If you'll chisel your employees, you'll cheat your suppliers.


28 posted on 03/12/2014 7:33:20 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: driftdiver
I did not say that all employers exploit. I said that I personally worked for several former employers who did. All are out of business now.

Typically they'd hire "managers" as salaried exempt, but then set the payroll for hourly help unrealistically low. So you were supposedly "managing" when in reality all of your time was spent out on the floor with a box cutter and a broom. 60+ hours per week. Break it down per hour and it was below minimum wage.

I got smart and ditched that business a long time ago. But I have some former colleagues who no doubt are celebrating Obama's move today.


29 posted on 03/12/2014 7:37:34 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: driftdiver

Stuart Varney on FNC this morning was very blunt about this: Obama is just trying to buy votes for the 2014 election. That’s what this is all about.


30 posted on 03/12/2014 8:46:40 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: jsanders2001

I understand that, I was young and ignorant at one time, though I was never a Liberal, I did vote Democrat. Until I got old enough to have some sense.


31 posted on 03/12/2014 8:53:44 AM PDT by sport
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To: driftdiver

Democrats’ caused income inequality by keeping people on their plantation.


32 posted on 03/12/2014 8:55:17 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: sport

I was once a Democrat too. They’ve been hijacked. I cannot belong to a party with their current beliefs and stances. It goes against every good, moral, and American value. Thew new Democrats are owned by foreign puppetmasters and many of them don’t even know it.


33 posted on 03/12/2014 9:08:49 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: driftdiver

Currently, it is around $11 an hour for managers and $27 an hour for IT employees. I would assume he is going to raise it to at least $15 to $20 an hour for managers. It is going to kill fast food and retail. IT will be a bloodbath if they have to pay programmers and engineers overtime and on-call pay.


34 posted on 03/12/2014 9:12:19 AM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: driftdiver

So why have salaried employees at all?

Does this apply to the military? They are salaried and are on duty 24/7, in effect making their wage, depending on rank, les than mimimum. Furthermore, if you make less than minimum, whether piece work or salaried, your employer muat make up the difference to bring you to minimum wage level. Will this apply to the military?


35 posted on 03/12/2014 9:21:45 AM PDT by rey
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To: driftdiver

Will the imposter also declare that overtime is to be paid for hours worked over 29?


36 posted on 03/12/2014 9:22:20 AM PDT by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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To: Lazamataz

“Like any good foreigner, Obama is willing to kill the economy Americans just won’t kill.”

Good foreigners come here and become legal citizens, something this imposter didn’t feel necessary.


37 posted on 03/12/2014 9:27:22 AM PDT by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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To: Daffynition
Here's a picture of him with Karl Marx - LOL
38 posted on 03/12/2014 9:37:28 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“I have personally experienced retail chains abusing salaried “managers” by expecting them to put in 60-70 hours per week.”

That’s the difference between hourly and salaried employees.
I personally don’t see why anyone would take a salaried position, you’re just asking to be overworked.


39 posted on 03/12/2014 9:38:09 AM PDT by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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To: driftdiver

This is idiotic.

I haven’t punched a time card in 30 years.

This idiot would have all us professionals punching time cards.

Hey, moron, we get paid the big bucks because every once in a while, we have to work late and on weekends.

I HAVE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH THIS!


40 posted on 03/12/2014 9:40:12 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: driftdiver

They always over poll rats!


41 posted on 03/12/2014 9:42:34 AM PDT by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: driftdiver
President Obama, flexing his executive authority once again, plans to order the Labor Department to expand overtime pay requirements to include millions more workers -- in a move likely to rankle the business community.

Maybe he should try this with ALL the people who work at the White House. They can give him the feedback he needs to 'get real'...

42 posted on 03/12/2014 9:43:52 AM PDT by GOPJ (From a bellwether to an "oh-whateverrrr" in less than a single news cycle. -freeper Fightin Whitey)
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To: driftdiver

I was an hourly employee until about eight years ago when I took a salaried position with another company. It came with a nice bump in pay. I work long hours / weekends when I need to but not that often. If my position is shoved back into the hourly category a few things could happen:

1. My job title could change to keep me salaried.

2. I could be replaced by someone who makes much less per hour but gets overtime so that the cost of my position doesn’t go up.

3. They could juggle my hours to try and minimize the impact.


43 posted on 03/12/2014 9:46:03 AM PDT by Pan_Yan (Who told you that you were naked? Genesis 3:11)
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To: cripplecreek
I used to work for a shop that paid overtime for anything over 8 hours regardless of total hours worked per week.

The company I worked for had union, non-union salary, and management employees.

The union (hourly and salary) workers got overtime. The non-union salaried such as I was never got overtime unless it was a special weekend project. I was never required to work late during the week but did so on many occasions

The shop supervisors were the ones who got screwed. They got their flat salaries with a max of 60 hours per week. Any hours above that they didn't get paid for. It was very common for them to have to work 7 days a week, 10 - 12 hours a day, especially when there were production line problems or quality issues.........

44 posted on 03/12/2014 10:01:16 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Was Occam's razor made by Gillette?)
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To: Hot Tabasco

7-12s is a killer.

Only the strong survive...unless they are UAW skilled trades guys getting a 4 hour nap in there.


45 posted on 03/12/2014 10:02:49 AM PDT by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: Verginius Rufus

It will fail him. FL’s special election yesterday is the two minute warning.


46 posted on 03/12/2014 10:03:29 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: kearnyirish2

I would like to see the government stay the heck out of it all together. Plus this should require legislation not some EO. “forcing companies to pay out” sounds fascist to me. The main problem is not companies but rather government. Competition will sort out pay issues if government would just get out of the way.


47 posted on 03/12/2014 10:11:13 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: kearnyirish2
The reason we are in dire straits in the first place is because gov.org has regulated heavy industry practically out of existence in the USA. Then it goes on to blame fast food restaurants for the decline of the middle class. What a sad, sad joke.
48 posted on 03/12/2014 10:14:32 AM PDT by MRadtke (Light a candle or curse the darkness?)
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To: MRadtke

Great post!
Needs to be a campaign theme/slogan/meme


49 posted on 03/12/2014 10:16:06 AM PDT by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: RS_Rider

You take a salaried position thinking it will actually be management, which is legitimately exempt.

Companies then redefine it as a catch-all for all of the other payroll they are choosing not to spend.

THAT is the crux of the issue.

Eventually I caught on and went into a business where this was not abused.

I will say, Obama has likely just bought the votes of nearly every Assistant Manager in the retail and restaurant businesses.


50 posted on 03/12/2014 10:22:23 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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