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Ukraine Warns Of 'Full Scale' Invasion As Russia Moves Its Artillery Close To The Borders
Daily Mail ^ | March 12, 2014

Posted on 03/12/2014 1:06:43 PM PDT by Strategy

Russia could launch a 'full scale' invasion that would see troops overrun Ukraine in hours, a senior security official warned today.

The secretary of Ukraine's National Security and National Defence Committee Andriy Parubiy claimed Russia has 80,000 troops, 280 tanks and 170 aircraft massed on the border ready to invade.

'They are adding to this military potential,' he said. 'We have a critical situation on the entire southeastern border. The Russian army is only two to three hours from Kiev.'

Ukraine's defences would be incapable in the face of a Russian invasion, he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: albania; albvania; brzezinski; crimea; kosovo; obama; putin; russia; serbia; soros; svoboda; ukraine
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1 posted on 03/12/2014 1:06:44 PM PDT by Strategy
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To: Strategy
Have no fear ... Opie dog is here ... with one word the oceans will recede, the planet will heal, and the Russians will retreat.
2 posted on 03/12/2014 1:08:57 PM PDT by dartuser
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To: Strategy

Good job Odingo and Ketchup boy.


3 posted on 03/12/2014 1:09:30 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Strategy
That's really no way to act in the 21st Century. I'm sure Lurch's response will be:
neat
sweet, and
petite
4 posted on 03/12/2014 1:10:32 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi (NOPe to GOPe)
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To: Strategy

Might be time for Ukraine’s Leaders to consider becoming “The Switzerland of the Eastern Front.”


5 posted on 03/12/2014 1:10:59 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: dartuser

Holding that many assets active in place is very expensive. Putin probably has a timetable.


6 posted on 03/12/2014 1:11:08 PM PDT by AU72
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To: Strategy

Obama likes to hear himself talk, but the world’s leaders know it all means NOTHING.

This like a game of Chess to Putin, who while Obama was studying “Rules for Radicals”, was studying Machiavelli’s “The Prince”.

Every time Obama tries to make a counter move, Putin’s move is to one-up.


7 posted on 03/12/2014 1:12:12 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: Strategy

And if Putin decides to take over half of Ukraine, who is going to stop him?

He could care less about so-called international opinion. All he needs to know is if he can get away it with it at minimal cost.

Its all that’s restraining him from going ahead.


8 posted on 03/12/2014 1:12:25 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Strategy

We really need to sit this one out - not our problem.


9 posted on 03/12/2014 1:14:00 PM PDT by dainbramaged (Don't tell me, I'll tell you.)
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To: Graewoulf

How well did that work out for the Baltic Republics last time?


10 posted on 03/12/2014 1:14:53 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Strategy
And some of the tanks and planes actually will start up.

However, they have the troops...


11 posted on 03/12/2014 1:14:55 PM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Strategy

Well it’s a good thing that Obama helped to make Ukraine safer by telling them they don’t need any defenses.


12 posted on 03/12/2014 1:16:04 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Strategy
Ukraine is a country in name only. ALL OF IT is a de facto province of the new Russian Empire. Any former part of the Soviet Union or of the original Russian Empire must prepare itself. Like Hitler, Tsar Vladimir will continue to conquer as long as nobody is able to stop him.
13 posted on 03/12/2014 1:18:36 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Strategy
The Ukraine starts a civil war and now they're trying to goad us into covering their butt.

Crimea should never have been annexed.

Sorry, there's a reality to all this. This is no longer the age of Stalin.

I have letters to my grandfather from his brother that bear a stamp of Stalin.

14 posted on 03/12/2014 1:18:42 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Strategy

Will full scale invasion make constitutionalists ask Obama for a constitutional formal Congressional declaration of war to use military force? Of just ignore the Constitution?


15 posted on 03/12/2014 1:18:42 PM PDT by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: Strategy

Reset.

Rinse.

Repeat.


16 posted on 03/12/2014 1:20:19 PM PDT by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: ex-snook

He ignored the Constitution in not seeking Congressional authorization and the UN on Libya. Putin can cite he got his Parliament’s authorization to use force.

Obama is not coming into the court with clean hands here.


17 posted on 03/12/2014 1:21:50 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: ex-snook

Where’s the r.s.p.e.c.t. Bambi demanded?


18 posted on 03/12/2014 1:22:53 PM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: Strategy

Maybe Putie will rip off all of Ukraine while he’s at ti.


19 posted on 03/12/2014 1:24:50 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished)
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To: goldstategop
"Obama is not coming into the court with clean hands here."

Can't wait to hear about the constitution from Cruz and Paul.

20 posted on 03/12/2014 1:28:22 PM PDT by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: Strategy
Top Team Obama tells Ambassador to Ukraine "F*** the EU"

Team Obama planning for overthrow of elected Ukranian government...just as Russia planned to keep Ukraine in its orbit.....except Team Obama wanted to "go it alone" against our European allies.....

Hmmmm...wonder why the media isn't criticizing the man-child for cowboy diplomacy......

21 posted on 03/12/2014 1:29:08 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: 1rudeboy

Ukraine will be relegated to be a landlocked Country, and mainly used to safely transport Oil and Gas out of Russia.

Russia has a long history of feeling secure when it has friendly or neutral Nations on its periphery.

Ukraine has had the misfortune of a corrupt President who robbed them into poverty.

While Obamanation is descending, Russia is ascending: Russia is now free to do what is best for Russia.

A Neutral Ukraine would reduce risk to the Oil and Gas pipelines that are used by Russia in Ukraine.


22 posted on 03/12/2014 1:29:21 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Strategy

If no one will oppose Russia, effectively, the take-over is already accomplished. Putin just uses politics and subterfuge while waving his big stick. Just the threat will accomplish a lot: “Nice little country you got here. Wouldn’t want to lose it now, would you?”

If you want to save Ukraine, you have to call his bluff.


23 posted on 03/12/2014 1:29:52 PM PDT by No One Special
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To: Strategy

Who signed on for Ukraine to give up its nuclear weapons?


24 posted on 03/12/2014 1:31:24 PM PDT by sefarkas (Why vote Democrat Lite?)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Team Obama planning for overthrow of elected Ukranian government...

Actually, the ex-President for quite some time was passing ever more harsh laws against his political opponents and protesting of any sort. If the U.S. was involved in anything, it was against the developing tyranny of the Russian puppet. The Puppet Putinistas don't know anything about Ukraine.

25 posted on 03/12/2014 1:37:24 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Strategy


26 posted on 03/12/2014 1:37:46 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Albert Einstein: The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: sefarkas

Those were Kremlin weapons. Clinton did not want to see them fall into the hands of former vassalls of his friends Moscovian friends.


27 posted on 03/12/2014 1:37:54 PM PDT by No One Special
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To: Strategy

This tense situation in Ukraine hints at the start of the next world war. Our country, even with a weak leader and a tired military, are still part of NATO, and we have signed an agreement with Ukraine to protect it from Russia. The EU depends on Russian oil and gas, so its lead nation, Germany, is not willing to go toe-to-toe on this invasion of Ukraine. Internal discord within Ukraine started by probably both Russian and American agents poked the problem to full revolt. Now we see the Russian army in the Crimea and threatening to fully invade Ukraine. Neighboring small nations are highly concerned at their futures as well. Russia in the meantime is trying to set up the Eastern European Union as the counterpoint to the EU, and it is busy “persuading” eastern European countries to join the EEU instead of the EU. Russia’s financial business with China will serve to further weaken the already struggling US dollar and it will all happen in a quick windstorm. Banks will fail here in the US, Russia will invade the rest of Ukraine and all of Georgia, Moldova, and other eastern European countries. The EU will react by trying to push NATO into action. Meanwhile in the Middle East the Russians will push the Syrians and Iranians to attack Israel. The US will be so blownback by the actions going on in Europe it will not be able nor desire to help Israel. In the US our open borders will allow foreign operatives who have crossed over from Mexico to plant dirty bombs, shutdown crucial communications and public operations (power, water, roads, etc.) and it will be awful.

I am sad to see the world coming to this. I pray that God will have mercy on my family. I will go down fighting as a proper Southern military vet should. Yes, I see doom coming upon us and I am concerned for my children and grandchild.

I am a student of history and I firmly believe that the world has returned to the same way it was pre-WWII. There will be no rally by the US and Great Britain—our nations have been so dramatically changed by the PC idiots and the acceptance of every kind of perversion that we are weak, weak, weak. We have strayed from the one true God and we will suffer and pay for it.


28 posted on 03/12/2014 1:41:59 PM PDT by sassy steel magnolia
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To: Strategy

the way obozo is so obviously communist / Marxist and has blatantly kissed Putin’s a$$ by granting him the depletion of US missile defense systems in eastern Europe as well as depleting America’s military of officers, readiness and other damaging acts on his part (feminizing, Islamizing, depleting morale of enlistees) around the world and by bringing heavy hardware home and then giving it to DHS to strategically place all over the country, the billions of rounds of hollow point ammo purchased by DHS, etc. leads me to believe this is obozo / Putin’s (NWO elite) segway into a military conflict that will come to the US homeland. The stink of the fraud in the WH and in DC gets worse by the day and they are without doubt preparing for a militarily type action to take control of this country. There is obviously a plan in motion and it needs to be derailed before it is too late.


29 posted on 03/12/2014 1:50:43 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Putinistas ignore the actual events and history of Ukraine. I understand their anger with the nitwit and Carterized Obama. But allowing one’s self to be duped by Putin is as bad as being an Obamabot.


30 posted on 03/12/2014 1:51:48 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free the USA.)
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To: sassy steel magnolia

100 years of war has taken a toll on us in blood and treasure. We can’t defend the world, end the agreements to do so. Another war now would be existential for us. China is waiting to pick up our pieces. War, without end, Amen should not be our prayer. USA needs rebuilding for war and peace.


31 posted on 03/12/2014 1:53:15 PM PDT by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: sassy steel magnolia

We’ve no treat with Ukraine. We’ve no legal obligation; we have sympathies and we have principles that align us with their goal of freedom. But we are not duty bound by treaty to Ukraine.


32 posted on 03/12/2014 1:53:29 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free the USA.)
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To: ex-snook

Do you really want to live in a world that is controlled by the Chinese army which would align with the Russians and the North Koreans and the Muslims?

I am NOT a warmonger, but to believe that retraction and isolation will keep us safe is foolish. We are part of the problem AND the solution. I don’t know what the outcome will be, and I pray it is NOT WWIII! But I can see that there are parties out in the world pushing and shoving people and causes and nations until something sparks it and then it spreads like wildfire. God help us fer sure!


33 posted on 03/12/2014 1:57:07 PM PDT by sassy steel magnolia
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To: sassy steel magnolia

I think the Muzzies are likely but temporary partners in that evil alliance. The old soviet deity doesn’t have place for a rival like Allah.


34 posted on 03/12/2014 1:59:54 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: sassy steel magnolia

You get it. I doubt many here do. I am convinced that a variation of some sort on the ideas you bring up are a part of Russia’s global strategy.


35 posted on 03/12/2014 2:00:16 PM PDT by No One Special
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To: elhombrelibre

“Budapest Memorandum signed by former President Bill Clinton in 1994.”

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/02/28/fact-check-could-a-little-known-international-agreement-force-u-s-britain-into-war-with-russia/

Sir Tony Brenton, who served as a British ambassador from 2004 to 2008, said war is certainly on the table if it’s determined that the Budapest Memorandum is “legally binding.”

“According to the Daily Mail, Kiev has asked that the agreement be honored as it claims its borders have been violated.”

so, perhaps an “agreement” might be the document that pulls us into this, along with our participation in NATO...

Praying that WWIII does NOT break out...for ANY of us!!!


36 posted on 03/12/2014 2:00:50 PM PDT by sassy steel magnolia
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To: Strategy

They are barking at the moon, in order to bring NATO troops in.
More lies and manipulations.
Russia has not the tiniest interest to invade Ukraine, which it will break out by itself between the Western nationalist Russophobic part and the Eastern Russophonic one. Just check out what’s happening in Donetsk, Kharkov, Donbass, Lugansk ...

I’m quoting the words of the Ukrainian nationalist politician Gennady Balashov: “Anywhere in Crimea or elsewhere in Ukraine, if a Russian citizen wearing a St. George’s ribbon [a traditional Russian commemoration of World War II] tears down a Ukrainian flag, he should be shot in the head, because he is the enemy, and there is no point talking to him.”

Russia is just standing by watching what’s going on ...


37 posted on 03/12/2014 2:03:08 PM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: sassy steel magnolia
"I am NOT a warmonger, but to believe that retraction and isolation will keep us safe is foolish"

The opposite of isolation [non-involvement] is warmongering. Atomic war is foolish.

38 posted on 03/12/2014 2:03:53 PM PDT by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Yes, “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” only works for so long—until they both eliminate the shared enemy then they fight each other to the death.

Man’s warlike nature hasn’t changed in spite of our technological advances...

We are the same flawed sinners fighting ourselves and each other. We just have more powerful weapons to kill each other now...


39 posted on 03/12/2014 2:04:28 PM PDT by sassy steel magnolia
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To: Strategy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVZjyyAE-78

Click the CC button for captions and select “translate captions” and select English.


40 posted on 03/12/2014 2:04:29 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: dainbramaged

[ We really need to sit this one out - not our problem. ]

Agreed, sadly we missed any window of opportunity when Barry practiced his “Squeak Loudly and carry a limp wrist” type of diplomacy...


41 posted on 03/12/2014 2:05:59 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Marguerite

How is it you’re so read in to Russia and Putin’s thinking?


42 posted on 03/12/2014 2:06:25 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free the USA.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Have they tried accusing Putin of racism yet?

Perhaps that will work in international affairs as much as it works at home.


43 posted on 03/12/2014 2:08:52 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: sassy steel magnolia

Budapest Memorandum

It is not a treaty and even if it was, in order to be “legally binding”, it should had been presented and approved by the Senate, which never happened.


44 posted on 03/12/2014 2:09:25 PM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Marguerite

It is obvious that you have been practically panting with excitement at the prospect of Ukrainian and Russian lives being lost to satisfy Putin’s lust for blood. While you quote some obscure politician whose name does not even sound Ukrainian, the fact is that Putin has been fomenting disturbances in the Eastern part of Ukraine for the purpose of creating a pretext for an invasion. Your sympathies in favor of Putin’s dreams of neo-Soviet hegemony are evident.


45 posted on 03/12/2014 2:12:05 PM PDT by Agog
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To: elhombrelibre

Power and decisiveness are political aphrodisiacs. Putin becomes more attractive to some people when contrasted to the feckless Obama. Those who might sympathize with the Ukraine are by necessity weak as there is no military option without risking an unthinkable world war.

Nationalism also plays into this situation. Putin is a Russian ultranationalist. That is attractive to many who hate diversity in the west.

Not only is the Ukraine screwed, much of the former Soviet Union awaits a similar fate. Pushing ethnic Russians into East Europe was an obvious move to secure their holdings by Stalin and his successors.


46 posted on 03/12/2014 2:13:01 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: elhombrelibre

I’m pretty smart, that’s how.


47 posted on 03/12/2014 2:13:02 PM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Agog

Are you ready to die for Kiev?
Be my guest.


48 posted on 03/12/2014 2:14:43 PM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: ex-snook

there has to be some place in the middle where one is NOT putting head in the sand OR advocating pushing nuclear buttons! I want peace like everyone else, but if a wrong is being done and it is going to eventually be done to me or my family, then it has to be encountered. I was told to stand for my convictions and to choose wisely on when to get involved. I don’t go looking for fights but if they come my way I will NOT run. God help me to have the strength and wisdom to know what to do!


49 posted on 03/12/2014 2:19:04 PM PDT by sassy steel magnolia
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To: Marguerite

Don’t worry Muscovite, your hero Putin and his men will be getting theirs sooner or later.


50 posted on 03/12/2014 2:19:40 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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