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GOVERNMENT WORKERS COST 45% MORE THAN PRIVATE SECTOR WORKERS
Breitbart Big Government ^ | March 14 | by CHRISS W. STREET

Posted on 03/13/2014 2:15:55 PM PDT by Hojczyk

The United States Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) announced on March 12th that the total cost of employing a state or local government worker is 45% more than an equivalent worker in the private sector.

For the month of December 2013, employers in private industry spent an average of $29.63 per employee hour worked, but the equivalent cost for a government worker averaged $42.89 per hour.

Not only do government employees average 33% higher pay than those in the private sector, their pension and retirement benefit costs are now an incredible 254% higher also.

Given that compensation formulas for federal, state, and local government are comparable, it should come as no surprise that this year spending by the U.S. government will exceed revenue by an all-time high of $744.2 billion, and our gross national debt is a stunning $18.5 trillion.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: feralguvmint; g42; public

1 posted on 03/13/2014 2:15:55 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

Lowball estimate.


2 posted on 03/13/2014 2:16:41 PM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: Hojczyk

i’d wager it’s really double or triple.


3 posted on 03/13/2014 2:21:24 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: Steely Tom

Lowball estimate.

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Indeed it is. And the funny thing is the feds have some kind of “pay equivalence” study group (of course made up of federal employees) and they find that the Feds are HUGELY underpaid compared to comparable private sector employees. You can’t make this stuff up.


4 posted on 03/13/2014 2:22:32 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Hojczyk

And work half as hard...


5 posted on 03/13/2014 2:22:39 PM PDT by abb
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To: Hojczyk

Is that per person, or per work unit? I expect it’s the former, and the figure for the latter is even worse.


6 posted on 03/13/2014 2:23:50 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Steely Tom

A VERY lowball estimate.


7 posted on 03/13/2014 2:24:45 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (If you can read this, you are part of the resistance. Or some scum sucking kapo.)
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To: Hojczyk

“government worker is 45% more than an equivalent worker in the private sector”

The real number is much higher than this because government “workers” do little actual work. If private sectors workers don’t do the job they are dismissed. If government employees do not do the job they stay around for years.


8 posted on 03/13/2014 2:25:21 PM PDT by detective
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To: Hojczyk

No kidding. This is like living in Imperial Russia and the taxpayers are the serfs.

Welcome to Serfdom all ye wage earners and taxpayers.

All your money belongs to others and you will never be free.


9 posted on 03/13/2014 2:26:02 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Hojczyk
Perhaps, but Asst. Deputy Administrators (GS-12) are critical to a smoothly running bureaucracy.


10 posted on 03/13/2014 2:26:59 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: OpusatFR

Shut up and get back to work, tax slave!


11 posted on 03/13/2014 2:27:31 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Hojczyk

You have to look at value, not just cost!


12 posted on 03/13/2014 2:27:55 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Hojczyk

...but think of the SACRIFICES they make to be in public service!!! (/s)


13 posted on 03/13/2014 2:29:01 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Hojczyk

When I entered the workforce 30 years ago I had job offers from a corporation and a job with the Federal govt. The starting pay was similar but everyone knew you would end up MUCH better in private industry. Boy have things changed.


14 posted on 03/13/2014 2:29:56 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: NEMDF
How can you put a price tag on dedication?


15 posted on 03/13/2014 2:30:13 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Steely Tom

It’s not their money and they don’t care how they spend it. They’ll just ask for more. Ii heard yesterday about some city (los angeles) employee who caused an auto accident. “City employees do not have to have their own insurance’ the report said, so LA is out the 3.5 million dollar settlement. That’s disgusting!!


16 posted on 03/13/2014 2:32:30 PM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: Hojczyk

....and do 95% less ‘work’..........


17 posted on 03/13/2014 2:38:22 PM PDT by Red Badger (LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
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To: Hojczyk

Immigrants don’t take government jobs.


18 posted on 03/13/2014 2:42:16 PM PDT by kabar
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To: detective
I was at a government site for four weeks, and made a comment to my client about the sink in the locker room. It had finally made its way out of the shipping box and into the corner near the broken one.

My client said it is such a scam. What would take us 3 hours to do takes them six weeks. He was in on a meeting and the boss was pleading with his workers to work. (He couldn't yell at them because then the union would be come down on the boss for harassment). But pleading. “Come on guys, if you can just give me 4 hours of good hard work each day we can be back on track in three weeks. PLEASE!” (BTW - they work four 10-hour days!)

My client said the boss couldn't even get them to do that.

At another government site the head manager we were supposed to see to was never around. His receptionist would say he had stepped out, at a meeting, etc. (For two days we got the run-around.) When we finally got ahold of another manager he said “Oh - she's just covering for him. He comes in and turns on his lights and computer - then goes to his civilian job for the day. Swings by the office at the end of the day to turn everything off.”

19 posted on 03/13/2014 2:47:21 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: Hojczyk
GOVERNMENT WORKERS COST 45% MORE THAN PRIVATE SECTOR WORKERS

No sh** Sherlock!
But that assures that only the best, brightest and most dedicated are recruited for public service!

< /extreme S >

20 posted on 03/13/2014 3:02:04 PM PDT by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good g race to resign!)
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To: Hojczyk
That turns out not to be the case.
The gap in pay between federal employees and private-sector workers has jumped 8 percentage points since last year, according to new data presented at a Federal Salary Council meeting Friday.

On average, federal employees earn 34 percent less than their private-sector counterparts, according to the council's analysis....


21 posted on 03/13/2014 3:55:31 PM PDT by Aqua Buddhist ("If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism." --R. Reagan)
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To: Aqua Buddhist

Overgeneralizations are misleading

some jobs may be easy to compare, skilled crafts, or licensed professionals, for example.

governments have some unique job titles like police, firefighter, judges, fighter pilots,

I would be interested in comparison of identical jobs.


22 posted on 03/13/2014 4:34:11 PM PDT by John Galt's cousin (WTF? We couldn't rescue four men in Benghazi? Is our military IMPOTENT? ( /s ))
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To: John Galt's cousin
I would be interested in comparison of identical jobs.

That's the crucial variable for getting useful comparisons. The statistic cited in this article appears to just use lumped-together averages, which naturally skews the result (there are millions of burger-flippers in private business but hardly any in the government, especially since they contracted out all the janitorial and maintenance functions).

23 posted on 03/13/2014 4:44:37 PM PDT by Aqua Buddhist ("If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism." --R. Reagan)
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To: Hojczyk

I’d be willing to bet that if the military was removed from the equation the cost of government employees would be a whole lot higher.


24 posted on 03/13/2014 6:57:41 PM PDT by mikefive (RLTW)
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To: Hojczyk

“their pension and retirement benefit costs are now an incredible 254% higher also. “

Piped right into the false Stock Market


25 posted on 03/13/2014 7:03:37 PM PDT by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: Hojczyk
true for military as well....

we think we have public "servants" and what we really have is public "obligations" that go on and on and on......

26 posted on 03/13/2014 7:33:22 PM PDT by cherry
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To: OpusatFR
the "party" people in Russia always vacationed on the Black of Caspian sea....

if I was to do it all over again, I'd say every couple should have one worker for the state so they can get all the bennies and days off and glorious pensions and health care....

27 posted on 03/13/2014 7:35:21 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Hojczyk

It used to be gov’t work didn’t pay as much as the private sector but they had good benefits. Now it pays more plus they have outstanding benefits. Something has got to give.


28 posted on 03/13/2014 7:38:14 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (This is not just stupid, we're talking Democrat stupid here.)
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To: John Galt's cousin
fire and police are also vastly overpaid and over benefitted....IMO...which I have the right to have....

retire in 20 yrs on near full pay?....or retire on "disability" over "stress"....or have serious marks against you like our local where one guy was working another job while docked into his cop job and another was banging his married girlfriend while supposedly on his job...that guy quickly "retired" and so now he'll get probably more than most people get working...

I am just tired of it....

29 posted on 03/13/2014 7:40:52 PM PDT by cherry
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Please note that this article is about State and Local Government employees, not Federal employees.

As for Federal employees, the question whether they are overpaid or underpaid depends upon the amount of their education. This CBO report from 2012 supports this line of thinking.

http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/attachments/01-30-FedPay.pdf


30 posted on 03/13/2014 7:48:33 PM PDT by LRM
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To: cherry
Part of the problem we see with pensions, is that politicians agree to the labor contracts, probably to get endorsements from unions. ALL of those labor contracts are approved by the governors and legislatures.

They have agree over the years to contracts that have wage increases as well as deferred benefits such as retirement and healthcare in retirement. The politicians (and the people who vote for them)try to not acknowledge the future costs of those promises in their yearly budgets. They kick the can down the road. They have been doing it for at least a generation.

We now see some government entities unable to pay for the benefits that their predecessors had promised. The taxpayers are on the hook, not the now-moved-on politicians who went along with the labor agreements.

In christie-Cuomo land, I understand that the NJ State Pension system is ‘underfunded’ because the governors and the legislatures over the years have not put cash aside to pay for the pension obligations. Incredibly, New York's State Pension system is (reportedly) adequately funded, because of a difference in the laws or state constitution that require municipalities to make annual contributions.

On the other hand, cops in parts of the NY metropolitan, after a year or three, have base salaries approaching $100,000.

Public employees have better unions than the rest of us. The people who work in those jobs got lucky. Instead of bitching about it, we have to get active and make candidates promise that they will act as fiscal conservatives. We can't allow any of them to keep ‘kicking the can down the road”

31 posted on 03/14/2014 3:05:05 AM PDT by John Galt's cousin (WTF? We couldn't rescue four men in Benghazi? Is our military IMPOTENT? ( /s ))
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