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100 serial rapists identified after rape kits from Detroit Crime Lab are finally processed
WXYZ ^ | Kim Craig

Posted on 03/13/2014 8:20:33 PM PDT by george76

"I was in shock. I was outraged and I just assumed kits were being tested," said actress Mariska Hargitay about the thousands of rape kits in Detroit and across the country that have been left sitting in storage without being processed, allowing rapists to remain free to attack again. And they often do.

Hargitay joined Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy to announce legislation that will soon be introduced to state lawmakers that is aimed at setting guidelines and deadlines for rape kits tests to be processed.

"Testing rape kits is vital for keeping rapists off the street," said Hargitay during Monday's press conference.

Over 11,000 sexual assault kits, some dating back to the 1980's, were found abandoned in a Detroit Police storage facility back in 2009.

Not long after the rape kits were discovered, Worthy pushed to start the processing with Michigan State Police.

So far, 1,600 rape kits have been processed, resulting in the identification of about 100 serial rapists and ten convicted rapists

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Nationally, an estimated 400,000 rape kits have gone unprocessed, allowing rapists to remain free and their victims to wonder if they will ever see justice.

(Excerpt) Read more at wxyz.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: crime; detroit; dna; forensics; rape; rapekits; rapists; serialrapists; waronwomen
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1 posted on 03/13/2014 8:20:34 PM PDT by george76
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To: george76

Gee...wonder if....Nah....I’m sure ‘Black’ had little to do with manipulating stats.


2 posted on 03/13/2014 8:22:21 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Mostly the cost of DNA testing used to run in the thousands of dollars per sample. Before government decided to just do whatever and maybe pay for it or maybe never pay there used to be this quaint little concept of budget restraint.

They don’t cost that much to process these days though.


3 posted on 03/13/2014 8:27:24 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Yep, not demographically correct to pursue it.


4 posted on 03/13/2014 8:28:18 PM PDT by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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To: Norm Lenhart

400,000?

foru dozen might be an “oversight” 400,000 ....an OUTRAGE


5 posted on 03/13/2014 8:28:38 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Jesus came to Save not Entertain / Ground John Kerry Now!)
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To: george76

Was Maury informed?


6 posted on 03/13/2014 8:30:42 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Democrat war on women: justice for women in a Democrat paradise.


7 posted on 03/13/2014 8:31:03 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
Was Maury informed?

Exactly. If Maury can do it everyday for dozens of babymammas LE should have the same ability

I wonder of admissibility in court has something to do with it.

8 posted on 03/13/2014 8:34:04 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: george76

Rape cases don’t seem to be a high priority, especially in large cities run by democrats. They’d rather spend the taxpayer’s dollars on other things that will help them get re-elected.

The Dark Side of Clearing America’s Rape Kit Backlog http://ti.me/1aeBvnf


9 posted on 03/13/2014 8:34:09 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: george76

Dem run cities don’t want the rape kits run because it would cut into their voter base. And possibly their candidate base.

But it is the Republicans who are waging a war on women. Uh huh.


10 posted on 03/13/2014 8:39:49 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: george76

“In the criminal justice system, the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups: the police who investigate crime and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. These are their stories.”


11 posted on 03/13/2014 8:40:00 PM PDT by moovova
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To: MeshugeMikey
400,000?
foru dozen might be an “oversight” 400,000 ....an OUTRAGE

I don't know if I believe those numbers. I think that Hargitay has been doing LAW & ORDER so long that she is beginning to believe what the scriptwriters put forth as facts, when they may NOT be facts.

It SEEMS to me that she DOES have an agenda. Maybe I'm wrong.

It would be interesting to know how many women/girls recant their allegations of rape.

12 posted on 03/13/2014 8:49:43 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: moovova
“In the criminal justice system, the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups: the police who investigate crime and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. These are their stories.”

My husband used to be able to recite dozens of commercials! I bet you can too! ;o)

13 posted on 03/13/2014 8:50:49 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: george76
war on women....
14 posted on 03/13/2014 8:51:03 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: piytar

Yup. Thing is, stuff like this happens in every Dem controlled area. Do you EVER see a GOP candidate use it in ads?

People give me a ton of crap for railing the GOP daily. Well, why shouldn’t I? Are they not supposed to be the ones stopping this crap? Aren’t they supposed to be speaking out against this insanity?

they are the ones that ARE NOT doing it.

Even the TEA candidates never get into the dirt and campaign on this stuff. All the war on women attack ads go wholly unanswered with anything but patronizing fluff.

This is the kind of thing that ignites movements...and no one breaths a word. I will. That word is “Disgusting”.


15 posted on 03/13/2014 8:51:21 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: cloudmountain

This is the number from all across the country during a thirty year time span. Not such an astonishing number taken in context.


16 posted on 03/13/2014 8:52:47 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

This is the kind of thing that ignites movements...and no one breaths a word. I will. That word is “Disgusting”.”

I believe the correct word is “Democratic”.


17 posted on 03/13/2014 8:54:51 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: george76

There should be a national fund raiser to raise private money to pay for this.


18 posted on 03/13/2014 8:55:00 PM PDT by MattinNJ (It's over Johnny. The America you knew is gone. Denial serves no purpose.)
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To: GladesGuru

Yup. It is.


19 posted on 03/13/2014 8:57:15 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: george76

Ha. Maybe a lot of the perps were the COPS. What an absolute outrage, a complete dis of women.


20 posted on 03/13/2014 9:02:18 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: george76

but, but, but....we all know females that claim “rape” are either liars or sluzzies just asking for it...so why should the cops care?


21 posted on 03/13/2014 9:03:13 PM PDT by cherry
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To: george76
“Over 11,000 sexual assault kits, some dating back to the 1980’s, were found abandoned in a Detroit Police storage facility back in 2009.”

Can anyone say chain of custody? I bet the defendant's lawyers can. These cases could get kicked just because of that screw up.

I also thought that DNA breaks down over time.

22 posted on 03/13/2014 9:03:22 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: MrEdd
This is the number from all across the country during a thirty year time span. Not such an astonishing number taken in context.

True.

I wonder how accurate the results can be after all that time. I seriously doubt if there is the requisite research on that.

Add to that mixture the mistakes made by labs, witnesses, the rapists and the victims. Also, from what I've read and heard MOST victims are raped by someone close to them. I wonder if that statistic is true as well.

23 posted on 03/13/2014 9:03:59 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

“It would be interesting to know how many women/girls recant their allegations of rape.”

Do you feel that the rape kits are filled with facts or disinformation?


24 posted on 03/13/2014 9:07:32 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: piytar

Dem run cities don’t want the rape kits run because it would cut into their voter base. And possibly their candidate base.
-=o=-
Seems Maricopa County (Phoenix) Arizona has the same situation.....Joe Arpio is the person to send your scathing denouncements to. Can’t do the Fed’s job and take care of business too.


25 posted on 03/13/2014 9:08:07 PM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Had Enough Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights ......... It's the LAW !!!)
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To: george76

They don’t want Bill Clinton getting caught before Hillary’s run for the Presidency.


26 posted on 03/13/2014 9:10:33 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

I also thought that DNA breaks down over time.
-=o=-
Tell the scientists cloning the woolly mammoth......


27 posted on 03/13/2014 9:10:46 PM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Had Enough Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights ......... It's the LAW !!!)
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To: george76

Detroit and Wayne County don’t have the money after spending it on slush funds for their union buddies.


28 posted on 03/13/2014 9:13:24 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: george76

So... we need ANOTHER law to make Law Enforcement follow the law ?


29 posted on 03/13/2014 9:18:37 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I just messed up my tagline. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

I agree. The gloves need to come off if we are to save the Republic.


30 posted on 03/13/2014 10:22:25 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Eagles6

It’s already lost. Has been for some time. Look at it instead as the first steps of rebuilding the country libs and RINOs threw away. It isn’t just semantics. Its a whole different mindset. Offense instead of defense.


31 posted on 03/13/2014 10:26:42 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

I agree.


32 posted on 03/13/2014 10:56:46 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: george76

Back to the 80s wow

A very progressive city indeed


33 posted on 03/13/2014 10:59:23 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: piytar

Rape kits are racist?


34 posted on 03/13/2014 11:00:35 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Bump


35 posted on 03/13/2014 11:04:00 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Eagles6

I understand people love their country. I love my country. But it simply does not exist anymore. The land is here. The buildings are here. But “America” as I recognize it is long gone. The idea of it is not shared by OVER 47% of this place.

And to be sure, Leave it to Beaver was just a TV show. That America never ‘really’ existed either. the 50s had plenty of problems too...But the ‘America’ I grew up in was a lot closer to the Beav than Reality TV America is to what many of us believe in.

Short of a total collapse and the chaos to follow, I don’t see ‘fixing’ this current place. We have to accept that we live in some bastardized Matrix world of liberal imagining, because it sure as hell isn’t one that the Constitution matters in.

So we have to let it go and BUILD a new one where it does.


36 posted on 03/13/2014 11:19:27 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: george76; Norm Lenhart; ryan71; piytar; GeronL

For whatever it’s worth or if it even applies to this thread...

From the DOJ.gov website (from a year ago):

2006: 32,443 Whites raped by Blacks, zero Blacks raped by Whites.
2005: 37,460 Whites raped by Blacks, zero Blacks raped by Whites.
2004: 11,611 Whites raped by Blacks, zero Blacks raped by Whites.
2003: 20,309 Whites raped by Blacks, zero Blacks raped by Whites.

Total: 101,823 Whites raped by Blacks. Zero Blacks raped by Whites...

The figures are (mostly) above zero Blacks raped by Whites for other years, into the low thousands, so something is askew, but they are nowhere near the 25k+ per year average of Whites raped by Blacks, an average which is consistent every year.

Just something to be aware of...


37 posted on 03/13/2014 11:38:26 PM PDT by Unc1e_Ivan (People sleep peacefully in bed at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Yep. I totally agree. It’s going to get far, far worse before, or should I say if, it gets better. We have the privilege to know that it will start within the next 3 years.


38 posted on 03/13/2014 11:58:54 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: GeronL

No. Seriously?! For you to even proffer that question is just ridiculous.


39 posted on 03/14/2014 12:00:16 AM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

You mean to tell me cops do not solve most of the crimes and it is up to citizens to stay armed? I am shocked because I am a liberal. :$arcasm


40 posted on 03/14/2014 12:35:22 AM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: george76

In Xolorado they said to let yourself be raped and let the police do the rest. Ah


41 posted on 03/14/2014 12:39:38 AM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: catnipman

When women decided to be protected by the courts instead of good men and the courts sided opportunistically against having children raised by men even when the mother was a known cheater, we got the whole country swept in quick generation into liberal idiocy.

It is unrecognizable.


42 posted on 03/14/2014 12:52:13 AM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: piytar

I was responding to #10 in a satiric way


43 posted on 03/14/2014 1:04:50 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Unc1e_Ivan

Which would seem to be statistically impossible until you look at the first lady


44 posted on 03/14/2014 1:06:13 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Unc1e_Ivan

To the NSA that was a joke


45 posted on 03/14/2014 1:07:01 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: george76

There are two separate issues conflated by the article, one being ineptitude and crass stupidity on the part of Detroit’s municipal employees and two the backlog of evidence found in ANY crime lab.

Despite fanciful myths stemming from entertaining fiction, forensic analysis takes quite a lot of time, money, and a large number of well-trained and educated personnel. What’s more, there is room for equivocation in a lot of the results - forensic evidence is an element that can help build a convincing case (or far more often elicit confessions and pleas), it is often not sufficient on its own. Despite what the dramatic writers may tell you, convictions don’t hang on a single flimsy piece of forensic analysis.

Considering that there are orders of magnitude more criminals than crime lab technicians, it’s no surprise that evidence can pile up faster than municipal and state agencies can process it. It makes rational sense to prioritize evidence processing under such conditions - as a hypothetical you could put the rape kits from cases where someone has already confessed or which there are already strong cases with an identified suspect on the back burner and run the DNA from a murder scenes instead. There are still tradeoffs, and those tradeoffs involve real human tragedies, but you still have to do the best you can with the resources you have available.

This is likely the story behind the typical rape case involved in the nation-wide backlog of rape kits: During initial interviews with the victim and the initial processing of the evidence, a kit is administered by hospital personnel and logged as evidence, officers investigating then do a little thing called police work. They try to get the best description of the assailant possible from the victim, they check surveillance cameras and interview people around the crime scene, and run down the list of possibles. If they find a good match for a suspect, they’ll sit him down and have a talk with him, see if they can trap him in a few of his own lies, point out how he bragged about the rape on twitter if that’s the case, put the fear of God into him and explain what’s going to happen to a rapist in prison, and start convincing him that they have an airtight case and he better start trying to cut the best deal he can under the circumstances.

A signed confession is elicited, or the case with what evidence is present gets shot up to county, and in all probability a plea arrangement is worked out with the DA. 90%+ of criminal convictions stem from plea agreements, so it would abnormal in the extreme to actually HAVE to present evidence from the rape kit at trial.

Given those details making up the script for the vast majority of rape convictions, why in the blazing blue F*** would you go on to process the rape kit from a case that’s already been plead while you have DNA evidence from murder scenes piling up at the lab? Log the kit, store it, and process it if there is a successful appeal of the conviction (or if crime ever ceases entirely and your crime-lab has all the free time in the world to work on solved cases).

It’s still good old fashioned interviewing skills that get most convictions, and at the end of the day a signed confession or a plea is more evidentiary bang for your buck.


46 posted on 03/14/2014 4:13:20 AM PDT by jameslalor
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To: cloudmountain

I appreciate the compliment. But, I had to look that up even though I’ve watched Law & Order a thousand times. I knew the first several words and I searched on that.


47 posted on 03/14/2014 5:30:26 AM PDT by moovova
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To: MrEdd

Thirty six a day? Not surprising (sad, but not surprising) there might be so many kits used, but outrageous that the evidence was sidelined. I wonder how many women were pressured to recant?


48 posted on 03/14/2014 5:36:38 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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49 posted on 03/14/2014 5:39:53 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Norm Lenhart

I think the Republican pols are too afraid of being “uncivil” or being called “racist” to actually point out the blatant malfeasance and incompetence of Democrats.


50 posted on 03/14/2014 5:41:39 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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