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Why 'Crocodile Hunter' Steve Irwin's Final Moments Should Be Televised
Big Hollywood ^ | March 12, 2014 | James Delingpole

Posted on 03/13/2014 9:49:36 PM PDT by This Just In

Steve Irwin had one of the weirdest deaths imaginable: stung multiple times in the heart by a stingray which had probably mistaken him for a tiger shark. His final words, we now know from his cameraman, Justin Lyons, were: "I'm dying."

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Should the video footage of Steve Irwin's tragic death be published?

If Mr. Irwin did not state explicitly that he wanted the video to be aired in the media, it's the family's decision.

1 posted on 03/13/2014 9:49:36 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: This Just In

Exploitation to whet the bloodlust of the public? Bread and circuses redux?


2 posted on 03/13/2014 9:51:12 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Frankly, I thought Delingpole’s argument was a little weak.


3 posted on 03/13/2014 9:52:09 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: This Just In

I was not a fan for several reasons which are irrelevant here. My kid however, LOVED the show and the man and grieved hard when he died. Truly grieved. Viewing his demise would be traumatic for many.

Airing this unfortunate man’s final moments would indeed be “ghoulish and prurient”


4 posted on 03/13/2014 9:58:22 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (My citizenship is not here.)
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To: Psalm 144

To say “in poor taste” is to minimize just how tasteless the notion is.


5 posted on 03/13/2014 10:00:55 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: This Just In

I was a fan of Steve. Very entertaining show.
But no need to see his traumatic end.


6 posted on 03/13/2014 10:01:09 PM PDT by entropy12 (If you did not vote, you helped elect the community organizer from south side of Chicago.)
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To: This Just In
It should definitely be left up to his family. I don't need to see it.

Why is this on Brietbart?

7 posted on 03/13/2014 10:03:39 PM PDT by Washi (Stop Obama's War On Jobs)
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To: Psalm 144

I wasn’t a fan of Steve Irwin’s style as well. It’s true that he was widely popular, and created a lot of interest, but his intrusion-if you will-on these animals were oddly enough a disharmonious approach to wildlife.

RIP, Mr. Irwin. You were a brave and talented man.


8 posted on 03/13/2014 10:03:55 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: This Just In

I don’t believe in tempting fate or God. The ONLY right way to deal with poisonous snakes is with a 12 gauge shotgun.


9 posted on 03/13/2014 10:05:00 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: This Just In

i thought the family already destroyed the tape if I remember correctly.


10 posted on 03/13/2014 10:05:55 PM PDT by diverteach (If I find liberals in heaven after my death.....I WILL BE PISSED!!!)
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To: Washi

Excellent question.

Delingpole stated:

“Even as he lay dying in the boat while one of his cameramen desperately tried to administer CPR another cameraman kept on filming. Why? Because Irwin had given strict instructions that anything which happened to him while he was out filming should be recorded.”

Well, just because Mr. Irwin gave strict instructions of continue filming doesn’t mean he wanted the taping of his final moment to be aired on the screen.


11 posted on 03/13/2014 10:07:59 PM PDT by This Just In
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Sure I'm aware of the counterarguments. That to release the Steve Irwin death footage would be ghoulish and prurient, that it would be offensive to his wife and kids, that such a private and personal moment as a man's death should stay private.

There you have it, Delingpole, the counterargument is exactly right and it buries your argument.

12 posted on 03/13/2014 10:10:25 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: varmintman

We have a lot of rattlers in our area. My family and I are careful while out hiking, swimming, fishing, exploring, etc. If there’s a snake slithering around while we’re out, you can bet it’s going to be dispatched.


13 posted on 03/13/2014 10:10:39 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: This Just In

Anyone have the infamous Bill Maher photo?


14 posted on 03/13/2014 10:11:18 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Nobody owes you a living, so shut up and get back to work...)
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To: diverteach

I don’t know whether or not they destroyed it. I would have.


15 posted on 03/13/2014 10:11:57 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: Kickass Conservative

You mean the jackass photo?


16 posted on 03/13/2014 10:13:08 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: This Just In

The Halloween Party photo.

It was a new low for Bill.


17 posted on 03/13/2014 10:15:26 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Nobody owes you a living, so shut up and get back to work...)
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To: This Just In

The thing about Irwin was his insistence on “respect” for dangerous animals, yet he showed little to none himself.


18 posted on 03/13/2014 10:15:58 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: This Just In

From wikipedia

Irwin’s death is believed to be the only fatality from a stingray ever captured on video.[84] A copy of the footage was reviewed by the Queensland state police, but eventually, all copies of the video were reportedly destroyed at the request of Irwin’s family.[85][86][87][88][89] Production was completed on Ocean’s Deadliest, which was broadcast in the US on the Discovery Channel on 21 January 2007. The documentary was completed with footage shot in the weeks following the accident, but without including any mention of Irwin’s accidental death.[90][91]


19 posted on 03/13/2014 10:17:40 PM PDT by diverteach (If I find liberals in heaven after my death.....I WILL BE PISSED!!!)
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To: Kickass Conservative

I was kidding. :^)

Do we really want to see the Halloween Party photo?


20 posted on 03/13/2014 10:17:52 PM PDT by This Just In
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Should the video footage of Steve Irwin's tragic death be published?

Didn't we used to call these things "snuff films?"

-PJ

21 posted on 03/13/2014 10:18:21 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: This Just In

Disgusting. Absolutely not.


22 posted on 03/13/2014 10:20:51 PM PDT by ZULU (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Political Junkie Too

shouldn’t even be a question


23 posted on 03/13/2014 10:21:36 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: Olog-hai

There are a lot of people who loved Steve Irwin’s programs, and I can appreciate his talent, but you’re exactly right. It seemed odd to me that Mr. Irwin would talk about respecting the wild kingdom and yet he would do quite the opposite. Rather than observing animals in their natural habitat, he would disturb them.


24 posted on 03/13/2014 10:21:45 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: Psalm 144

I would not air this, I would not watch this.

That people are even considering it is testament to how far we have fallen.


25 posted on 03/13/2014 10:22:19 PM PDT by Bobalu (Happiness is a fast ISR)
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To: Political Junkie Too

No.


26 posted on 03/13/2014 10:22:21 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: diverteach

Thanks, diverteach.


27 posted on 03/13/2014 10:23:16 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: This Just In

I’ll assume a bunch of FReeper’s haven’t seen it.

Time for a little “know your enemy” lesson.


28 posted on 03/13/2014 10:27:25 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Nobody owes you a living, so shut up and get back to work...)
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To: fabian
The question is, what is the public interest in watching someone die?

-PJ

29 posted on 03/13/2014 10:29:38 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: This Just In
If Mr. Irwin did not state explicitly that he wanted the video to be aired in the media, it's the family's decision.

I can't find a reference right at the moment, but at the time he died, there were quotes in the media suggesting that he had said that if he was ever killed on camera, he did want the footage to be aired.

It's his wife's decision, legally, and she's made it. It also seems unlikely the footage exists anymore. It was supposedly destroyed.

30 posted on 03/13/2014 10:35:29 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: This Just In

Disharmonious to the wildlife?

Lol


31 posted on 03/13/2014 10:35:51 PM PDT by wardaddy (ukraine......aint nobody gonna do nothing but talk and try to score political points)
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To: Political Junkie Too

it is the evil within most people that compels them...and they usually don’t know it


32 posted on 03/13/2014 10:53:58 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: Kickass Conservative
Time for a little “know your enemy” lesson.

Knock yourself out.

33 posted on 03/13/2014 10:54:57 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: fabian
I don't think we're talking about Irwin anymore. He was killed by a fish. The fish had no evil intent.

I see no social value in giving in to the base desires of others who wish to see a film of someone dying.

-PJ

34 posted on 03/13/2014 10:58:16 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

no..the evil is in most people..that’s why they want to see it.


35 posted on 03/13/2014 11:07:20 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: fabian
Oh. Thanks for correcting my misreading of your point.

I agree.

-PJ

36 posted on 03/13/2014 11:08:30 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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Rather than observing animals in their natural habitat, he would disturb them.

Yes, but to be fair, he was more of a neighbor than a visitor in their habitat. IIRC his home was a habitat. I don't believe I ever saw him mistreating or abusing these animals. He had respect for their abilities and their life.

The only creatures harmed during the filming of his movie were human.

37 posted on 03/13/2014 11:13:22 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I just messed up my tagline. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: This Just In

Here is how I would answer the question.

If Steve had accidentally skewered a sting ray with a spear, do you think Steve would want it in the movie ?


38 posted on 03/13/2014 11:15:01 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I just messed up my tagline. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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I always thought the dood had solid steel testicles... or a loose screw, not sure which, exactly.

That being said, anyone who need more than a verbal explanation of what happened seems a little (or a lot) twisted to me. There are lots of things that ARE on video that I choose to not view for what I consider solid and personal reasons. Mainly, it's just gore at that point and I tend to not enjoy watching people suffer and die, regardless of the way it happens. Hell, I even have trouble watching those dumb videos on TV of skateboarders smashing their nuts all the time. I don't know how anyone could even have a desire to watch a guy get stabbed in the heart and die... sickening

39 posted on 03/13/2014 11:32:02 PM PDT by FunkyZero (... I've got a Grand Piano to prop up my mortal remains)
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To: Cyber Liberty

I’ve already seen it, thanks. Lesson learned.

Let the curious amongst us click on it.

Scum of the Earth Maher.


40 posted on 03/13/2014 11:35:57 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Nobody owes you a living, so shut up and get back to work...)
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To: This Just In

If somebody wants to show it and somebody else wants to watch it, that’s all that matters. It’s called “FREEDOM”.


41 posted on 03/13/2014 11:45:48 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (On the wrong side of history.)
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To: UCANSEE2

We’re all, to varying degrees, neighbors to wild life. I have seen Mr. Irwin wrestle gators, get down on his belly and go face to face with a deadly snake, etc.

I realize Steve Irwin never intended to harm any animals. His desire was to reintroduce people to the beauty, mystery, and dangers of wild animals. Mr. Irwin also wished to highlight endangered species, wildlife ecosystems, and the role humans play in that ecosystem.

What I did not find entertaining was his way of interacting with wildlife.


42 posted on 03/13/2014 11:47:14 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: Forgotten Amendments

I prefer to focus on respect rather than our freedom to watch Mr. Irwin die. Out of respect for his life, wife, and children, I prefer to remember Steve Irwin as he was in livng.


43 posted on 03/13/2014 11:50:40 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: FunkyZero

People wish to see these sorts of videos for morbid amusement and curiosity. There is no redeeming reason why anyone would wish to see a man die in such a horrible way.


44 posted on 03/13/2014 11:53:34 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: This Just In

Same here. But, I don’t have a right to deny you the right to see it if you feel otherwise. Unless I own the tape.


45 posted on 03/14/2014 12:06:36 AM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (On the wrong side of history.)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

I wholeheartedly agree.


46 posted on 03/14/2014 12:16:36 AM PDT by This Just In
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To: This Just In

He always struck me as an adrenaline junkie, just doing a big show off not much different than a base parachute jumper or a psycho robbing a bank, bucket list style.


47 posted on 03/14/2014 12:25:24 AM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: Washi

Delingpole, a great writer who skewers environazi’s, has been hired by Breitbart London.


48 posted on 03/14/2014 1:07:40 AM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: This Just In

Let him RIP without idiots with popcorn watching on years after the fact.


49 posted on 03/14/2014 1:09:21 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: This Just In; Revolting cat!

RATINGS


50 posted on 03/14/2014 1:11:59 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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