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Russia Must Stop U.S. Expansion in Ukraine [Propaganda Alert]
The Moscow Times ^ | March 14, 2014 | Sergei Markov

Posted on 03/13/2014 10:29:12 PM PDT by No One Special

Today, as a result of the Ukrainian crisis, U.S.-Russian relations have hit their lowest point since the invasion of Afghanistan in 1979 or of Czechoslovakia in 1969 — or perhaps even since they bottomed out during the Cuban Missile Crisis. The Crimean crisis, which began as a power struggle between the ruling authorities in Kiev and opposition forces, transformed in to an attempt to overthrow Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych by pro-Western and nationalist opposition forces with the support of the U.S. and European Union.

The crisis escalated into a conflict between the U.S. and Russia after the West supported a coup, then lied by violating the Feb. 21 agreement when it recognized the formation of a new and illegitimate government of extremists.

This conflict has the potential of sparking a new Cold War — something I never thought could happen in modern times since I believed it would have to be rooted in ideological differences. Instead, Moscow and Washington have billions of dollars of economic interests at stake, making this a geopolitical rather than an ideological Cold War.

Moscow does not see the revolution in Ukraine as an attempt to create a more democratic or law-based society. Instead, it sees the events in Kiev as an attempt to make Ukraine as anti-Russian as possible. The new government represents a minority of the Ukrainian population. It wants to suppress the Russian-speaking majority and violate their right to representation by holding unfair elections on May 25.

Moreover, U.S. President Barack Obama and German Chancellor Angela Merkel deceived President Vladimir Putin when they pursuaded him to convince Yanukovych to refrain from using force to quell the Maidan, and then to sign the Feb. 21 agreement — which they refused to uphold. Instead, they told Russia to accept the new reality in Ukraine. But why should Moscow accept that reality when it is directed against Russia, democracy and human rights?

What did Russia do to become the focus of so much animosity? Is it because it prevented the West from bombing Syria? Because it persuaded Yanukovych not to sign the Association Agreement — a treaty of little real importance to the EU? Those are trivial reasons for starting a new Cold War.

It seems that the West simply does not like Putin. He is a huge obstacle who prevents them from achieving global hegemony. For this reason alone he must be broken. Nobody in Moscow has any doubt that what happened in Ukraine will be repeated in Moscow in two or three years. Without Putin, there will be few world leaders left who have the power or courage to stand up to Washington. When this happens, the entire world will have to quickly accept the new reality.

Russia is not in Crimea to expand its territory but to oppose the immense power of West and its financial institutions in New York and London. Washington wants to characterize this as a conflict between Moscow and Kiev, thereby forcing Russia to negotiate with an illegitimate regime determined to destroy everything Russian in Ukraine.

However, everyone understands that this is a conflict between Moscow and Washington and that these countries should negotiate a solution. The question here is not Crimea but which reality the two sides are prepared to accept.

Should Moscow allow Washington to force it into humiliating submission and accept the possibility of a violent overthrow of the Putin regime? Or should Washington acknowledge that it can no longer impose its will on others? Both sides are unwilling to admit their weakness, thus making a geopolitical Cold War likely.

The West will hit Russia with economic sanctions to pressure Russian oligarchs into forming a fifth column, just as it did in Ukraine. To avoid this, Moscow will have to force oligarchs to bring their overseas assets back to Russia.

If Washington wins this geopolitical Cold War, it will install a pro-Western government in Moscow which could lead to the breakup of Russia. Siberia, the Caucasus and the Far East will demand autonomy, and the country's oil and gas resources will be transferred from the government to multinational corporations.

However, it is possible that Russia can resist, thereby fulfilling its historical mission of foiling the designs of those who long for world domination. Just as Russia stopped Hitler in the 20th century, Napoleon in the 19th century and Frederick the Great in the 18th century, it will stop Washington in the 21st century. This is nothing personal, just business. Russia has its historical mission to fulfill.

If a geopolitical Cold War erupts, it very well may morph into an ideological one since a Western attack would force Putin to rely heavily on conservative forces in the country's so-called "moral majority" in order to bolster his support. Additionally, Moscow will attempt to relieve pressure and find support abroad by stepping up its information campaign among the hundreds of millions of EU residents who sympathize not only with Putin's stance against Washington, but also his support of the traditional values that have been rejected by the EU elite.

Recent polls show that 80 percent of Germany's population sympathizes with Russian policy in Ukraine and only 8 percent favor sanctions. The online social networks in the West constitute an intellectual revolt against the bias of the mainstream media — all of which demonize Putin without any objectivity. Social network users clearly sympathize with Putin and their support will only grow.

Washington once transformed Cesar Chavez from a minor U.S. activist into a major political figure. Now Washington will transform Putin from his role as the man that lifted Russia off its knees into a global leader in the struggle against the global domination of Washington and the new values of postmodernism.

However, I would like to believe that the current crisis will not develop into a full-fledged geopolitical Cold War. After all, Obama thinks in 21st century terms, not 19th century. For his part, Putin holds many Western convictions. What's more, a geopolitical Cold War would hit Europe the hardest, robbing it of the balanced economic growth it needs and preventing it from consolidating its resources for something more useful. It is now the time for every responsible European leader to speak out against a new Cold War since they have the most to lose.

The way to end this standoff is clear: Ukraine must become a neutral state with a democratic government. It must grant full equality to both its Ukrainian and Russian-speaking citizens, adopt the policy of federalism and make both Ukrainian and Russian official state languages.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: brzezinski; crimea; eu; eubidding; eussr; imf; mccain; obama; putin; russia; soros; statedepartment; svoboda; syria; ukraine; usaid
This struck me as a good example of propaganda of the throw in everything but the kitchen sink variety.
1 posted on 03/13/2014 10:29:12 PM PDT by No One Special
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To: No One Special

Hit the reset button again and another Blame USA article will appear . . .


2 posted on 03/13/2014 10:30:25 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: No One Special

...surprised MSNBC hasn’t picked this guy up...


3 posted on 03/13/2014 10:34:21 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: No One Special

But, but, but ... The One won a Nobel Peace Prize.


5 posted on 03/13/2014 10:34:32 PM PDT by shove_it (my real nickname is Otter)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

6 posted on 03/13/2014 10:35:48 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: No One Special

He strikes me as sensible. I am of the view his solution has merit - if the West recognizes Russia has interests in Ukraine and any political solution protects all Ukrainians, ensures equal rights for them and entrenches real autonomy for both Ukrainian and Russian speaking people in the country and guarantees Russia a guardian role there.

Forcing Russia to capitulate will never work. No Russian will accept the decadent West and its corrosive liberal values that eat away like acid at traditional society. I side with Putin on this. I am convinced in the long run only conservative values will guarantee human happiness and prosperity. Russia is hated because it stands up for them and won’t entertain nonsense like gay marriage, wealth redistribution and climate change parroted in the West.


7 posted on 03/13/2014 10:40:53 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

I see far more propaganda from our MSM than I do in this article.


8 posted on 03/13/2014 10:55:54 PM PDT by Bobalu (Happiness is a fast ISR)
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To: No One Special

One thing is for certain, the Putin Regime has far better rhetoricians than the Obama Regime.


9 posted on 03/13/2014 11:00:53 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Time to import more guns, ammo, and explosives than they know what do with,...

This might force us to reduce the current level of arms we are supplying to the Mexican drug cartels and Islamic terrorist organizations.

10 posted on 03/13/2014 11:05:03 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: No One Special
"The way to end this standoff is clear: Ukraine must become a neutral state with a democratic government. It must grant full equality to both its Ukrainian and Russian-speaking citizens, adopt the policy of federalism and make both Ukrainian and Russian official state languages. "

Sure, that's the right answer.

But I don't think that's what they mean.

11 posted on 03/13/2014 11:09:54 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: No One Special
Agree. Russia is bothering Ukraine for basically one reason. That is because Putin decided to do so. If tomorrow he decides not to do so, the who affair will end. He's there because his hand picked man - Viktor Yanukovych - made a couple of mistakes. He went against Putin and negotiated an agreement with the EU. Then, Yanukovych accepted Putin's veto. Then Yanukovych brutalized Ukranian protesters. Next, Yanukovych ordered the protesters shot by snipers - probably on Putin's orders. The whole nation threw the bum out. They freed the political prisoners and exposed his vast wealth, like the wealth the crony capitalists associated with Putin have in Russia; it's tacky but it's wealth.

Putin then decided to snatch parts of Ukraine so he could play the "I'm a strong man card." This crisis is a wholly owned Putin production.

12 posted on 03/13/2014 11:10:14 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free the USA.)
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To: goldstategop

What type of conservative values does Putin truly represent? Putin’s Christianity is as sincere as Obama’s was when he sat in the Reverend Wright’s church. Putin could stop abortion in Russia tomorrow. He has that much power. He won’t. At best he represents the traditionalism and conservatism of a benign autocrat, a Czar in a suit. His is the conservatism of a chauvinist. At worst he represents a former KGB Colonel out to restore the Soviet Empire while allowing no freedom at home. He’s not like Franco; he’s showing himself to be an expansionist. He’s provides advanced weapons to Iran and Syria; he has provided weapons that would endanger Israel. So the idea that Putin is a member of the Edmund Burke club is absurd.


13 posted on 03/13/2014 11:17:06 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free the USA.)
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To: No One Special

This is the money comment:

If Washington wins this geopolitical Cold War, it will install a pro-Western government in Moscow which could lead to the breakup of Russia. Siberia, the Caucasus and the Far East will demand autonomy, and the country’s oil and gas resources will be transferred from the government to multinational corporations.

Would that it were a possibility. Maybe if we had another Reagan.


14 posted on 03/13/2014 11:55:03 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Mariner

Yeah, I thought the last paragraph of the article sounded fine.

Until I started wondering what the writer means by a “neutral state”. I don’t think that means like Switzerland.


15 posted on 03/13/2014 11:56:26 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn...)
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To: No One Special

Propaganda it is.

Ukraine woukd be fighting WWIII alone like the British against Hitler. Calling it cold war is stupid.

Not sure what the whole charade is at this point


16 posted on 03/14/2014 12:15:02 AM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: vette6387

I think it’s written for Russian domestic consumption. It’s sad that some Russians probably believe it.


17 posted on 03/14/2014 12:22:17 AM PDT by No One Special
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To: goldstategop

Hey, why don’t you just paste shirtless Putin on a pony ?


18 posted on 03/14/2014 12:44:08 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: elhombrelibre

“Russia is bothering Ukraine for basically one reason. That is because Putin decided to do so.”

So, all those months of civil unrest are just in our imaginations???


19 posted on 03/14/2014 12:57:59 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: No One Special

If Putin was interested in what the west thought he would invite Jimmah Carter to rubber stamp the Crimean election.

Jimmah always validates commies and he would put the veneer of, “legitimacy” on the reemergence of socialist doctrine.

With Obama in charge, he simply doesn’t care enough to even bother.


20 posted on 03/14/2014 1:02:48 AM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: vette6387

“However, it is possible that Russia can resist, thereby fulfilling its historical mission of foiling the designs of those who long for world domination. Just as Russia stopped Hitler in the 20th century, Napoleon in the 19th century and Frederick the Great in the 18th century, it will stop Washington in the 21st century. This is nothing personal, just business. Russia has its historical mission to fulfill.”

This article is well crafted with many layered messages. The one that stands out to me is Putin’s image of himself in the context of world history. All of the events quoted are major wars. He is projecting himself into the same roll as the leaders mentioned. He intends to escalate himself and Russia to this level of world domination.


21 posted on 03/14/2014 1:23:02 AM PDT by Clean_Sweep
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To: tcrlaf

Oh, I forgot about you. Yes, those people were out of line not doing what Putin wanted, and when Putin’s puppet started shooting them for their civil unrest I’m sure you didn’t mind.


22 posted on 03/14/2014 1:49:02 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free the USA.)
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To: No One Special

Golly, it strikes me as the SAME propaganda we get from OUR media outlets; just change the names of the players!


23 posted on 03/14/2014 1:54:40 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tzimisce

yup!!


24 posted on 03/14/2014 1:54:57 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Bobalu

There ya go!


25 posted on 03/14/2014 1:55:50 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: elhombrelibre
They freed the political prisoners and exposed his vast wealth, like the wealth the crony capitalists associated with Putin have in Russia; it's tacky but it's wealth.

Which would have gone unnoticed had he NOT spent so much time at Key Largo, Martha's Vineyard, Hawaii...

26 posted on 03/14/2014 1:58:20 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: vette6387
If Washington wins this geopolitical Cold War,
it will install a pro-Western government in Moscow
which could lead to the breakup of Russia.


27 posted on 03/14/2014 2:02:46 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: No One Special
It’s sad that some Russians probably believe it.

Only if it shows up - Between Two Ferns.

28 posted on 03/14/2014 2:04:02 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
No matter how much I despise Obama I don't see how that gives some other dictator a pass or the right to do that which is wrong to his people. I didn't want Obama for our president. I don't wish Obama on steriods for others. The wrong things Obama does are not right when some other narcisistic statist does them. Still, I know you thought you were being cute.
29 posted on 03/14/2014 2:11:10 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free the USA.)
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To: No One Special

US doesn’t need to be immersed in this right now (imo). Seems to be a pattern especially with McCain involved .... Syria, Egypt, Libya


30 posted on 03/14/2014 4:08:03 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: Olog-hai
Hit the reset button again and another Blame USA article will appear . . .

Obama, Juan McCain, and George Soros don't represent the interests of the American people, even though they act in our name and on our dime. The American people can on be blamed for letting them get away with it.

31 posted on 03/14/2014 5:27:01 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: Olog-hai
Obama has been watching Putin closely.
32 posted on 03/14/2014 6:12:08 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Elsie

BS. Our media is run by a bunch of liberals, but it is not government controlled.


36 posted on 03/14/2014 7:32:12 PM PDT by Red White and Blue patriot (USA all the way. Love it or Leave it. Better dead than Red. Putin = Hitler 2014)
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To: peter the great
If Putin's your idea of a Christian, that I would hope you'll check out the New Testament some time. Christ wasn't a gangster statesman. Putin is as much a Christian as Obama is. Your whole rant about wrong headed and wicked things that are inflicted on Christians is not relevant to whether Putin is a real supporter of Christianity.

See the video if you have the nerve a willingness to learn about Putin and who he really is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpiZw1R8w-c

37 posted on 03/15/2014 9:42:09 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free the USA.)
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