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Missing MH370: Transponder May Have Been Shut Down Deliberately, Say Experts
Malaysia Star ^ | 3/14

Posted on 03/13/2014 11:07:33 PM PDT by nickcarraway

New evidence has suggested that communication from the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 may have been deliberately cut off.

ABC news said US investigators now believe the aircraft's data reporting system and its transponder - which reports its position in flight to ground-based radar - shut down separately.

The fact that the devices appear to have been shut off at a 14-minute interval from one another suggests that they may have been deliberately disabled or at any rate did not fail as a result of a catastrophic airframe incident, the US network said.

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TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: malaysia

1 posted on 03/13/2014 11:07:34 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Well, there goes the whole alien thing.


2 posted on 03/13/2014 11:36:00 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn...)
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To: nickcarraway

Not just one system was shut down, three systems were manually shut down, fourteen minutes apart.


3 posted on 03/13/2014 11:37:46 PM PDT by Eva
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To: nickcarraway
I've often been suspicious of the co-pilot and mentioned it way back last week. It has been under a decade since he received his license and any pilot trained after 9-11 with certain characteristics makes me suspect to begin with.

Also the timing of taking over the aircraft is perfect. I read it is not abnormal for a flight to miss a certain amount of communication when flying into new airspace (i.e from Malaysian to VIetnamese.) thus a pilot would be very familiar with this knowledge as opposed to a general terrorist without commercial flight experience. Just my two cents.

4 posted on 03/13/2014 11:41:42 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Eva

Yep. I can see it all going down like a Hollywood movie unfortunately. Let’s hope this one has a happy ending. Although extraordinarily doubtful :(. Very sad for the family, but oddly suddenly more hopeful at the same time. At least we know the plane didn’t blow up.


5 posted on 03/13/2014 11:43:21 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: nickcarraway

The plane did not break up when transponder communication ceased, otherwise they would have found the wreckage by now. The key to this mystery will be found in the passenger manifest.


6 posted on 03/13/2014 11:44:06 PM PDT by kik5150
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To: GOP Poet
It has been under a decade since he received his license and any pilot trained after 9-11 with certain characteristics makes me suspect to begin with.

He's 27, how could he possibly have more than 10 years experience? You think every pilot since 9/11 who is Muslim is suspicious?

7 posted on 03/13/2014 11:49:23 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: SaxxonWoods

Aliens don’t know how to use transponders?


8 posted on 03/13/2014 11:50:06 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway; GOP Poet

“You think every pilot since 9/11 who is Muslim is suspicious? “

I don’t know about GOP Poet, but as for me, I find EVERY Muslim suspicious.


9 posted on 03/13/2014 11:54:45 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Eva
Three?

I have read that ACAR or the Data System stopped working at 0107 at the same time of the last transmission. And even this may not necessarily be any compelling information considering statements from MAS

At 0121 Transponder not working and what is particularly strange and key to me, is that 1 minute later was the last radar fix.

What was the third system manually shut off?

10 posted on 03/14/2014 12:16:35 AM PDT by saywhatagain
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It was found, but since “Thou shalt not ascribe guilt to a Muslim”, the answer has been duly ignored and the search for one more politically correct is created to take it;s place.


11 posted on 03/14/2014 12:45:29 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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“He’s 27, how could he possibly have more than 10 years experience?”

Things work differently in the third world. If he came from a family with enough political influence, or money, they can buy/influence the kid a slot. After that, it is up to him to keep it.

I’ve seen this many times over the years, even with foreign students in the US.


12 posted on 03/14/2014 12:54:56 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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I think we all kinda knew this almost a week ago


13 posted on 03/14/2014 1:40:47 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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I smell ROP(Religiopn of Peace) all over this thing!


14 posted on 03/14/2014 3:39:54 AM PDT by 2nd Amendment (Proud member of the 48% . . giver not a taker)
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Well, yes...


15 posted on 03/14/2014 3:52:00 AM PDT by smalltownslick
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Not to be humorous at the situation but this reminds me of a movie and several sci fi books about ships that travel through a tome vortex in the Pacific.
is there any historical evidence of weird aircraft sightings say from 1941 in this area?

Now back to reality for all the armchair Admirals and generals, its time to get that Flightracker software warmed up and keep your eyes on any 777 jets.

If I was somebody with a lot of command power in Israel I would call FAA and tell them under no situation will any 777 to approach Israel unless its been completely cleared and transmits a daily security code.


16 posted on 03/14/2014 4:03:51 AM PDT by Spartan302
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You think every pilot since 9/11 who is Muslim is suspicious?

Yes, I do.

17 posted on 03/14/2014 4:07:44 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Cruz/Palin 2016)
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To: nickcarraway

OK, I think everyone agrees that the airplane was hijacked.
Next question is what is the target for the attack they are planning to use it on?


18 posted on 03/14/2014 4:48:02 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Freedom isn't free; nor is it easy. END ALL TOTALITARIAN ACTIVITY NOW.)
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To: saywhatagain

It’s ACARS, not ACAR.


19 posted on 03/14/2014 5:06:26 AM PDT by dinodino
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Yes you are correct. Just got a little lazy.


20 posted on 03/14/2014 5:26:58 AM PDT by saywhatagain
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To: nickcarraway
" You think every pilot since 9/11 who is Muslim is suspicious?'

Frankly, yes.

21 posted on 03/14/2014 5:42:54 AM PDT by StormEye
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I think reporters don’t understand the technology. The 14 minute gap between last transmissions is merely coincidental. ADS-B is a continuous transmission of flight position, direction and speed. The ACARS system only transmits data when it has data to transmit. It doesn’t have to be in real-time as the data is designed for maintenance and performance only and so a message is sent only at 30 minute intervals (unless there is nothing to report). Malaysia Airlines does not subscribe to the ACARS service, but Rolls-Royce, the manufacturer of the engines, does. RR did get two data feeds from the aircraft. The first reported takeoff thrust and the second reported throttle back at cruise. These are like text messages on a cell phone. Like a cell phone the SATCOM stays in touch with the network. There were no further data messages from the ACARS but apparently the SATCOM link stayed active for at least four more hours. Whoever took control of the aircraft knew enough how to disable the ADS-B and ACARS services but did not know how to disable the SATCOM system because there is no switch for it in the cockpit.


22 posted on 03/14/2014 5:48:15 AM PDT by Procyon (Decentralize, degovernmentalize, deregulate, demonopolize, decredentialize, disentitle.)
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This backs up the description of an expert.

A swede shoe used car salesman 50 miles from home!


23 posted on 03/14/2014 5:49:24 AM PDT by dalereed
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