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House Democrats: We canít build Keystone XL ícause we need to keep 80% of our resources below ground
Hotair ^ | 03/14/2014 | Erika Johnsen

Posted on 03/14/2014 1:19:58 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

I can at least appreciate the semi-honesty about their real goals here. Via The Hill:

A letter sent to Kerry on Friday, signed by 27 House Democrats, details what they said would be the climate impacts of approving the $5.4 billion project, which would run from oil sands in Alberta to Gulf refineries.

“The math doesn’t add up. In order to meet our commitment to fight climate change, we need to keep at least 80 percent of carbon reserves below ground,” the letter, spearheaded by Reps. Jan Schakowsky (Ill.), Mike Quigley (Ill.), Rush Holt (N.J.) and Raúl Grijalva (Ariz.), states.

“If the United States is truly committed to avoiding a 2 degree temperature increase, we have to start by resisting this pipeline. We urge you to reject the pipeline and keep tar sands oil in the ground where it belongs.”

The representatives were joined by the National Wildlife Federation and activist group 350.org on Friday.

As ever, the eco-radicals’ real goal here is to use big government to try and force the world to quickly and quixotically abandon fossil fuels en masse and instead only use the impractical, unsustainably expensive, and so-called renewable energies (read: wind and solar) that they have deemed appropriate for fighting climate change (as well a few select, ahem, alternate methods). As has already been established a million times over, however, their rationale that “we have to start by resisting this pipeline” is a total farce:

The number of carloads of crude oil U.S. railroads delivered last year surged 83 percent over 2012 as concerns about the shipments grow.

The Association of American Railroads said Thursday the major U.S. railroads delivered 434,042 carloads of crude oil in 2013.

That’s well above the 236,556 carloads of crude oil railroads delivered in 2012. Crude oil shipments remain a relatively small part of rail traffic, but they have grown significantly since 2008 when 9,344 carloads were delivered.

Dear self-proclaimed environmentalists: Your preposterous, absolutist, and anti-growth schemes to try to coerce the world’s population into self-impoverishment are not helping your cause. The Hill piece above calls the lately especially vocal anti-Keystone crusading a “growing campaign” to pressure the Obama administration, which of course is total baloney, since the overwhelming majority of Americans approve of the pipeline. The only thing that’s “growing” about the stubbornly obtuse campaign is the decibel level of the involved parties’ irrational screeching.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: congress; keystone; pipeline

1 posted on 03/14/2014 1:19:58 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Ignorant Luddites!


2 posted on 03/14/2014 1:21:07 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Ignorant Luddites!


3 posted on 03/14/2014 1:21:24 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: SeekAndFind

If the United States is truly committed to avoiding a 2 degree temperature increase,


They’re conceding that we may be talking about just 2 degrees now?


4 posted on 03/14/2014 1:22:34 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: SeekAndFind
And isn't George Soro invested in the railroads?
5 posted on 03/14/2014 1:23:13 PM PDT by IC Ken
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To: IC Ken

RE: And isn’t George Soro invested in the railroads?

Don’t know about Soros, but I do know that Warren Buffet owns a huge chunk of Burlington Northern.

However Buffet did say he was FOR approval of Keystone XL.


6 posted on 03/14/2014 1:25:45 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Was this Representative Golem, perhaps?

“my preeeeeeeciousssssssssssssssss....”


7 posted on 03/14/2014 1:29:14 PM PDT by Noamie
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To: SeekAndFind

The thought that we can become self-sufficient as a nation and dependent on no one just terrifies the Democrats to no end.


8 posted on 03/14/2014 1:32:14 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: SeekAndFind

So many fools in one place.


9 posted on 03/14/2014 1:37:38 PM PDT by mulligan (I)
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To: SeekAndFind

And these are the “progressives?”


10 posted on 03/14/2014 1:43:33 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished)
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To: SeekAndFind
0bamacrats are committed to America's failure.


11 posted on 03/14/2014 1:44:47 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: luvbach1

LIBs/DIMs are completely, utterly insane. Those who elect these pinheaded morons also have significant problems in judgement.


12 posted on 03/14/2014 1:45:02 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: luvbach1

RE: And these are the “progressives?”

These are actually the “regressives”.


13 posted on 03/14/2014 1:50:29 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, isn’t that just mighty pious of them? Leaving the resources in the ground is supposed to “preserve” them for future generations, but what is the rationale for the resources to be extracted then?

Petroleum became the big resource it was because another resource was coming in very short supply, whale oil that was used for lamplight. Kerosene was so much cheaper, and widely available, that the whale oil industry disappeared almost overnight. And with it, of course, the extreme pressure on the population of whales.

Of course, the world has never gone back to the hunting of whales for the oil content, even as the price of petroleum has been driven inexorably higher. But there has been much expanded use of natural gas, which used to be a “useless” byproduct of petroleum extraction.

That is the point - what is now considered to be “waste” or “trash” could very well be tomorrow’s new energy resource, and the misplaced desire to “preserve” Nature’s bounty actually depresses the economy, destroying innovation and application.


14 posted on 03/14/2014 1:52:32 PM PDT by alloysteel (Obamacare - Death and Taxes now available online. One-stop shopping at its best!)
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To: Don Corleone

And they actually vote these people into office, GOD HELP US.


15 posted on 03/14/2014 2:00:14 PM PDT by onthegulf
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe we would all be better off just starting to build an underground (literally) society....

We would have plenty of fuel, heat, and water....

Drill deep enough and you can get geothermal energy to run green houses and power industry in making more equipment to dig out tunnels and build structures underground....

We could build a giagantic civilisation underground and away from Big brother’s eyes....

We could feed the excess food to the dolts living up top until their brains shrink tot he size of cattle and eat them... wait I was thiking of HG wells the tiem machine......

But seriously, we would be safe from thermonuclear events, solar events, gamma ray burtsts, floods, volcanic eputions, maybe not earthquakes, but not a bad trade when consider the toher things that can kill humans....

We would only have to fight against the Morlocks and the Reptoids who live underground and I think if we kept to ourselves we would be alright....


16 posted on 03/14/2014 2:15:05 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: SeekAndFind

[ Don’t know about Soros, but I do know that Warren Buffet owns a huge chunk of Burlington Northern.

However Buffet did say he was FOR approval of Keystone XL. ]

Buffett probably just needed a delay so he could position himself for building the pipeline.....

This way he can run his choo choos full of oil one way and full of pipeline building materials the other direction and end up owning the damn pipeline inthe process....


17 posted on 03/14/2014 2:17:02 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Don Corleone
Worth saying twice, but you insult ignorant luddites. These people are stupid beyond belief.

What kind of people vote for these idiots?

18 posted on 03/14/2014 2:21:34 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Cruz/Palin 2016)
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To: SeekAndFind
We urge you to reject the pipeline and keep tar sands oil in the ground where it belongs

You f'in morons. The oil is coming out whether you like it or not. The question is, will you allow it to be transported in the safest way possible, oh merciful masters?
19 posted on 03/14/2014 2:33:43 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: alloysteel
My short discussion with liberals on this topic start with a simple question: Do you think we will have alternative energy sources as our primary energy sources in the next 40 years?
Virtually every one will say "yes" (as would many on the Right).
Then my machine gun reply:
So demand for fossil fuels will be greatly diminished? Yes
So the price and value of fossil fuels will be greatly diminished? Yes (many will reply with a gleam in their eye)
So one day, likely in our children's lifetime, we will not need fossil fuels at all? Praise Mother Gaia, YES!
So fossil fuels will be worthless then? Yes.
But fossil fuels under US soil are currently worth trillions today? Um, yes.
And leaving them there until they are worthless would simply waste many trillions of dollars of national treasure? Well, yes but...
And with more sources being found almost every month, we could not possibly drill or produce every bit of it in the next 40 years, even if we started today, right? True...
So no matter what happens, we will have some underground supply of fossil fuels? Yes.
Then you agree that we should use what we have now, when it is at its peak value, and use those trillions of dollars for creating jobs and maximizing tax revenues, so that we can get to alternative energy sources that much sooner, with as much benefit from those fossil fuels as possible, before they are worthless, right? Yes, well, no. Huh? I don't... You're just a racist imperialist pig. I'm going home.
20 posted on 03/14/2014 2:45:24 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: SeekAndFind
These are actually the “regressives”.

They want us all back to go back to the 18th century and the best part is if we went back to all being farmers and hunters none of these people could survive.

21 posted on 03/14/2014 3:07:12 PM PDT by CommieCutter ("For an idea to be too simplistic, it must first be proven wrong" --Thomas Sowell)
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To: SeekAndFind

I hereby declare president obama and the democrats in the House and Senate and anywhere else are resources which must be kept underground.


22 posted on 03/14/2014 4:14:02 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault
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To: SeekAndFind

These proglodytes should be hunted to extinction.


23 posted on 03/14/2014 4:57:58 PM PDT by Noumenon (Resistance. Restoration. Retribution.)
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To: SeekAndFind
When will the order come to bury all pencils?

One must wonder if they have a clue that we are a carbon-based life form and are able to consider what that might mean.

24 posted on 03/15/2014 2:57:24 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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