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Wyoming welder faces $75,000 a day in EPA fines for building pond on his property
Fox News ^ | 03/14/2014 | Barnini Chakraborty

Posted on 03/14/2014 1:30:45 PM PDT by thetallguy24

All Andy Johnson wanted to do was build a stock pond on his sprawling eight-acre Wyoming farm. He and his wife Katie spent hours constructing it, filling it with crystal-clear water, and bringing in brook and brown trout, ducks and geese. It was a place where his horses could drink and graze, and a private playground for his three children.

But instead of enjoying the fruits of his labor, the Wyoming welder says he was harangued by the federal government, stuck in what he calls a petty power play by the Environmental Protection Agency. He claims the agency is now threatening him with civil and criminal penalties – including the threat of a $75,000-a-day fine.

“I have not paid them a dime nor will I,” a defiant Johnson told FoxNews.com. “I will go bankrupt if I have to fighting it. My wife and I built [the pond] together. We put our blood, sweat and tears into it. It was our dream.”

But Johnson may be in for a rude awakening.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Wyoming; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: agenda21; environment; epa; epaoutofcontrol; fishing; land; property; un21
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1 posted on 03/14/2014 1:30:45 PM PDT by thetallguy24
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To: thetallguy24

Bullies.


4 posted on 03/14/2014 1:34:55 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: thetallguy24

I’d soak it down good with gasoline and set it on fire.

After a few days I’d fill it in with dirt or concrete. All of this would be recorded, and I’d send it to the EPA bureaucrats that have been giving me trouble.


5 posted on 03/14/2014 1:34:56 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: unixfox

No net loss of wetlands!


6 posted on 03/14/2014 1:35:22 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: unixfox

EPA are the chief NAZI’S in this alleged republic.


7 posted on 03/14/2014 1:35:52 PM PDT by boomop1 (term limits will only save this country.)
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To: unixfox
A photo my congressman posted to twitter a few days ago. That's less than 3 total years worth of new federal regulations.

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8 posted on 03/14/2014 1:36:22 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: thetallguy24

This has got to stop. Sick and tired of the feds telling us what to do.


9 posted on 03/14/2014 1:36:41 PM PDT by vc79 (LIBs)
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To: thetallguy24

I bet the nearest EPA building suddenly finds itself surrounded by a “duck” pond.


10 posted on 03/14/2014 1:37:30 PM PDT by Spartan302
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To: thetallguy24

Why was that partial government shut down so terrible again?


11 posted on 03/14/2014 1:37:50 PM PDT by MulberryDraw (Repeal it.)
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To: thetallguy24

Tis easy, fill the pond up w/ EPA SCUM’S BLOOD!


12 posted on 03/14/2014 1:38:32 PM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: unixfox

People who are totally fed up just might shoot the next EPA guy that shows up to bother them...


13 posted on 03/14/2014 1:38:41 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: thetallguy24

It sounds to me like a clear cut case of pursuit of happiness.


14 posted on 03/14/2014 1:40:00 PM PDT by whodathunkit
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To: thetallguy24

“on his property”

Silly man for thinking that he actually owns something! Under the new world order “private property” is what you pay taxes on, and insurance, and you can get sued for, and where you get to shovel the snow and cut the grass.

Communism seeks to confiscate all private property. The fascists haven’t been able to take it all, just yet, but they’re working on it, a little at a time.

Private property and freedom of speech are just two modern-day illusions.


15 posted on 03/14/2014 1:41:19 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: thetallguy24
Sackett vs EPA

Landowner should contact Pacific Legal Foundation for assistance. They've been there, done that.

16 posted on 03/14/2014 1:41:19 PM PDT by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with violence, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: thetallguy24

“...his sprawling eight-acre Wyoming farm.”

They must have a different definition of ‘sprawling’ than I do, and eight acres ain’t it!


17 posted on 03/14/2014 1:41:37 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: Beagle8U

EPa asses strike again. If anyone is acquainted with an EPA employee, give them the what for and, then, shun them.


18 posted on 03/14/2014 1:43:35 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Beagle8U

If it is acre farm, he must not have a pond, but a puddle.


19 posted on 03/14/2014 1:44:08 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: thetallguy24

I have an eight acre farm with (when there isn’t a drought) 1 acre pond. Neither is “sprawling.” I couldn’t so much as dig a pit toilet without checking with the county to find out whether I was allowed to do so. (actually the answer is a resounding NO). And I also know that if you allow stock to use the pond, you and your kids don’t want to. yuk.


20 posted on 03/14/2014 1:44:28 PM PDT by Mercat
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To: thetallguy24

He should’ve built a swimming resort and go for broke if he knew this was going to happen..


21 posted on 03/14/2014 1:44:49 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: cripplecreek

Repeal ALL of that crap.


22 posted on 03/14/2014 1:46:17 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: MulberryDraw
"Why was that partial government shut down so terrible again?"

What Cruz wanted to do to Obamacare is EXACTLY what the Democrats are now THEMSELVES doing to Obamacare; DELAYING IT. Funny how the media refuses to acknowledge this.

23 posted on 03/14/2014 1:47:04 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: thetallguy24

This type of thing is happening more and more. The EPA federal employees (every last one of them) needs to lose their jobs in a 100% RIF and the EPA’s responsibilities transferred to a new agency stocked with new people recruited FROM THE PEOPLE. Congress needs to transfer responsibility for managing water ways and “wet lands” to a more citizen friendly agency and needs to MAKE IT ILLEGAL TO TREAT CO2 AS A POLLUTANT.

Give that disgusting group of creatures known as the EPA their retirement contributions and let them get REAL JOBS or apply for their 6 months of unemployment.


24 posted on 03/14/2014 1:47:59 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: thetallguy24
Don't know whether to scream FASCISTS! or MARXISTS! While waving my fist. A little from column A a little from column B.
25 posted on 03/14/2014 1:48:54 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: thetallguy24

Shoot shovel shut up.


26 posted on 03/14/2014 1:49:28 PM PDT by JamesA (You don't have to be big to stand tall)
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To: thetallguy24

Where the hell is the country sheriff during all this....

The county Sheriff should be kicking the little federal pukes the hll of this man’s property and signing a restraining order against the feds....

Or someone could easily win in the next country sheriff election on this specidif platform!


27 posted on 03/14/2014 1:49:34 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: thetallguy24

He had a permit from the State of Wyoming allowing him to build the pond.

Maybe the EPA has been tasked by the president with instigating a new civil war.


28 posted on 03/14/2014 1:49:57 PM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: thetallguy24
I've read the story twice and see one indication about a dam. Did he build a dam
to create his pond?, or is his pond independent of any stream? No idea and
I think that matters in this case. Ponds can go stagnant and that runoff
downstream could cause problems. Ponds also have major mosquito problems.

I would not want somebody upstream from my property messing with what comes down.
But that would be a civil matter if this is the case.

29 posted on 03/14/2014 1:50:02 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: thetallguy24

8 acres is not ‘sprawling’ anywhere, never mind Wyoming. And out west water rights are extremely sensitive - the EPA may be the least of this guy’s problems. An old friend tried to get leaky irrigation canals in Colorado fixed, only to learn that they were ‘intentionally’ leaking onto the farms of the politically-connected - he learned this when his trailer home was fire-bombed and he crashed naked through his back wall because the exits were burning.


30 posted on 03/14/2014 1:53:50 PM PDT by Glenmore
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To: thetallguy24

And people think voting for Marxists or RINOs is a joke. Incredible how many people out there are naive when it comes to history. “Oh tyranny could NEVER happen here! It’s the USA!” Well here you go: Tyranny in all its glory. The Master says you will not build a pond or he will steal all your money because it’s the Masters land not yours.


31 posted on 03/14/2014 1:55:14 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: MaxMax
Ponds can go stagnant and that runoff downstream could cause problems. Ponds also have major mosquito problems.

According to the article he's got it stocked with fish. If it's supporting a healthy fish population, I'd be very skeptical about it being stagnant, or being a substantial breeding ground for mosquitos.

32 posted on 03/14/2014 1:56:41 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: JamesA

[ Shoot shovel shut up. ]

No No No....

I have a better method thought up for dealing with these federal beer-o-craps....

You “detain” them, force them to drink a 1/5 or more of vodka, drive them out a ways into the country in their car, get out of their car, put a brick on the car’s gas pedel, crash it into trees/fence with no one inside, if car is not on fire have them sit in car, make them drink some more.... and leave ....

On your way back to the farm call the country sheriff and report you saw a car driving all over the road recently on country road wherever...

Local Harassed Farmer/rancher: “Funny thing about the fed agents who come to visit in this neck of the woods, they can’t seem to hold their liquor..... And they also come up with all sorts of crazy stories to try to get themselves out of a DUI conviction too....”


33 posted on 03/14/2014 1:57:04 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: thetallguy24

Sic semper tyrannis..............


34 posted on 03/14/2014 1:59:11 PM PDT by Red Badger (LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
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To: I want the USA back

[ “on his property”

Silly man for thinking that he actually owns something! Under the new world order “private property” is what you pay taxes on, and insurance, and you can get sued for, and where you get to shovel the snow and cut the grass. ]

It is the “Kings” Land and the King is the only one who can tell you what you can and cannot do on it....

Only we have replaced the “King” with a system of beer-o-craps instead of a single tyrant, we have multiple redundant tyrants....


35 posted on 03/14/2014 1:59:25 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Glenmore

The writer of the article is likely from some craphole city where 8 acres would seem big. For them an 1/8 acre is a nice sized yard.


36 posted on 03/14/2014 1:59:28 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: thetallguy24

Seems to me if the State allowed it, then they should be answering to the EPA, not the homeowner. (Not that I agree with the EPA).


37 posted on 03/14/2014 1:59:32 PM PDT by adamjeeps
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To: unixfox

I think the appropriate response is to send a few EPA administrators to a taxidermist to be stuffed and mounted.


38 posted on 03/14/2014 1:59:57 PM PDT by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: KoRn

[ I’d soak it down good with gasoline and set it on fire.

After a few days I’d fill it in with dirt or concrete. All of this would be recorded, and I’d send it to the EPA bureaucrats that have been giving me trouble. ]

I like the way you think...

If I can’t have nice things, I can’t have nice things and they cannot tax my increased property value of my nice things...


39 posted on 03/14/2014 2:00:29 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: vc79

What is the difference between appointed bureaucrats making regulations and fines and taxation without representation? Why is this allowed??! If it is so bloody important for there to be all these regs on the books I at least want our incompetent Congress to have to rubber stamp them. That way we have someone to blame and vote out. Only downside is Congress will have to work more, and that’s OK with me.


40 posted on 03/14/2014 2:01:03 PM PDT by When do we get liberated? (A socialist is a communist who realizes he must suck at the tit of Capitalism.)
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To: MrB

Who shows up? They fly a drone over your house, freeze assets and suck your money out of the bank.


41 posted on 03/14/2014 2:02:16 PM PDT by When do we get liberated? (A socialist is a communist who realizes he must suck at the tit of Capitalism.)
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To: thetallguy24

“President” Rick Perry would kill the EPA. That is a big big plus for me and all property rights advocates.


42 posted on 03/14/2014 2:02:37 PM PDT by Baynative (Got bulbs? Check my profile page.)
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To: Beagle8U

I thought that too, particulary in Wyoming. I can see a “sprawling 8 acre farm” in Manhattan...


43 posted on 03/14/2014 2:03:37 PM PDT by When do we get liberated? (A socialist is a communist who realizes he must suck at the tit of Capitalism.)
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To: MrB

Make an example out of few of them.


44 posted on 03/14/2014 2:04:03 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Beagle8U

Especially eight acres in Wyoming.
Thats most people’s backyard in Wyoming.


45 posted on 03/14/2014 2:05:12 PM PDT by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!)
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To: When do we get liberated?

[ Who shows up? They fly a drone over your house, freeze assets and suck your money out of the bank. ]

The more I think about it..... It almost seems like the entire “War on terror” was nothing more than a proving ground for technologies and methods for taking over the country....

Fallujia = Street/Urban warfare in the states
Afghanistan = Dealing with Rurual “Bitter Clingers”
Drones = Spying on Citizens and flushing out more “Bitter Clingers”

A great deal of the tech and methods developed WILL be used on us if we keep losing our freedom and even quicker the longer congress and the senate keep ceeding their power the the executive branch....


46 posted on 03/14/2014 2:05:47 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: thetallguy24

Water rights, especially out west, can be kind of a tricky thing. It does seem, though, that the guy is within his state’s guidelines as far as the pond goes, and that the EPA is overreaching here.


47 posted on 03/14/2014 2:06:39 PM PDT by DemforBush (A Repo Man is *always* intense.)
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To: Baynative

I doubt it. He hasn’t done anything to end the green energy scam in Texas.


48 posted on 03/14/2014 2:06:41 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Mercat

I grew up swimming in watering holes.
I know, they are nasty, but we really didn’t care.


49 posted on 03/14/2014 2:06:52 PM PDT by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!)
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To: thetallguy24

Bookmark


50 posted on 03/14/2014 2:07:23 PM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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