Skip to comments.Sharp Changes in Altitude and Course After Jet Lost Contact
Posted on 03/14/2014 4:42:45 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
SEPANG, Malaysia Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 experienced significant changes in altitude after it lost contact with ground control, and altered its course more than once as if still under the command of a pilot, American officials and others familiar with the investigation said Friday.
Radar signals recorded by the Malaysian military appear to show the missing airliner climbing to 45,000 feet, above the approved altitude limit for a Boeing 777-200, soon after it disappeared from civilian radar and made a sharp turn to the west, according to a preliminary assessment by a person familiar with the data.
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I was watching CNN now(I am no fan of CNN but I have to give Erin Burnett credit her program has been very informative these past few days) they had on John Nance I believe his name is, and from what he said, which makes the most sense..to put a plane at that high an altitude could have only been for one purpose, to kill off the passengers since they would not have been able to breathe at that high an altitude..meanwhile, those in the cockpit could have kept on breathing for as long as they needed..whoever was in the cockpit wanted the passengers killed off so they could continue on their way, it was the plane that they wanted
Just like I’ve been sayin’!
China will hold Malaysia responsible for airport security lapses and poor screening of pilots.
Things were bad at home with one of the two pilots --he was losing his spouse and his kids. Maybe he also has some professional problems with the airline --impending job loss?
He kills the other pilot, then depressurizes the plane to knock out all the passengers. He briefly hears a banging on the cockpit door, but it subsides after 1 minute, then stops totally: the widely-imagined battle royal for survival by the passengers is a non-event. He shuts down both transponders and all comms.
He flies on, on oxygen, contemplating his life, the passengers meanwhile dying from oxygen deprivation. He turns the plane dramatically, beginning a suicidal dive, plunging 40,000 feet in just one minute, only to chicken out.
He flies on for hours, silently trying to summon up the courage to end it all. His indecision is overtaken by his fuel situation, and on vapors he finally slams into the ocean, knocking himself out and dying.
Scenario 2: Hijack
The two Lothario pilots invite the 2 most attractive women on the plane into the cockpit, the better to impress them with their studly technical skill. This habit of theirs had been previously noted by other more radical passengers and quietly passed up the command chain, who dispatched comely young women to "coincidentally" fly in their plane.
During their cockpit party the pilots are overcome by a sedative secreted into their drinks. The women unlock the cockpit door, later accessed by a completely calm and properly trained hijack pilot clicking a pen and holding a clip-board --as with the previous scenario there is no life-or-death fight with the passengers.
He throws aside his silly name-tag and clip-board and immediately depressurizes the plane --the passengers are knocked out and later die. The transponders are turned off, they dive for the deck and turn to their destination four hours away --a 4,000 foot airstrip controlled by their fellow believers.
Immediately upon touching down the spoilers are activated, they apply maximum brake pressure and hit the thrust reversers on the pair of massive engines --the plane lurches, strains and jostles, but rolls to a halt at the very edge of their makeshift runway.
Dented technicals --pickups packed with angry-looking armed men-- stream onto the strip, guiding the behemoth aircraft packed with suffocated passengers to a rocky crag, with burly, bearded men camouflaging the aircraft even as the engines spool down.
Non-minaturized nukes are heavy, and a re-painted civvy a/c like the 777 will make a perfect delivery platform at 3,000 feet on a clear day at 10:00 am over a major city, the better to teach the non-believers with Allah's blinding white flash.
3/9/2014, 12:41:06 PM · 78 of 94
BuckeyeTexan to Capt. Tom
I have a few really stupid questions. Please excuse my complete ignorance.
What would happen to a 777 if, theoretically, hijackers attempted to fly the plane well beyond its 43,100 foot max service ceiling? (e.g. above troposphere at 7°N or ~ 55,000 feet)
Engines stall and plane dives? Fuselage implodes, explodes, disintegrates?
Everyone is speculating about a suicide dive. What about the opposite? Clearly they couldnt sustain enough thrust to take her straight up, but how high could they take her and what would be the result, theoretically?
One of the pilots went jihadi. The Malaysians don’t seem very interested in investigating them.
Scenario 3: Both pilots are terrorists. With assistance from grounds crew members who are in on the game they fuel up the jet with more fuel than normally scheduled for that particular flight. ...
But it could still be a robbery-hijack.
Apparently the authorities have settled on the story that the plane turned west and kept flying for hours.
It makes what Nance said seem accurate, if the change in altitude by that amount is accurate..kill off the passengers for what purpose, if the whole point was to commit suicide why even do that, then the plane went down to 25,000 then back up to regular altitude and continued on their way..if the whole point was to “Go Jihadi” and do what the pilot in EgyptAir did, what was the 45,000 altitude meant for, other than getting rid of the passengers in the easiest way possible
If the plane was hijacked to steal it, and it is not at the bottom of the ocean, it needs a very long runway to land. How many of those are there in the middle of the Indian Ocean?? Certainly records exist of runway lengths in that part of the world. How can you hide a 777 on land ?
I tell ya, when this is all said and done your gonna look like freakin Nostradamus and Im not being sarcastic
Actually that is NOT true..according to a former pilot who was on Greta last night, he said that a 777 can “Easily” land on a airstrip that is about 3500 feet, but he said if the plane wanted to take off again, THAT would be VERY difficult to do, it can be done, but it would drain half the fuel because a plane of that size needs a long runway
A guy on Fox was just suggesting this could be the result of a physical struggle over autopilot being turned off/on.
Nah, the brakes on that thing are especially massive, and the thrust reversers are powerful —it is hardly a STOL bush plane, but in the commercial world the 777 is known for being able to stomach relatively short landings.
It typically needs about 4,000 feet for a “short” landing.
The main risk would be that the huge underslung engines might inject foreign objects from a crudely-finished surface (stones, lots of sand/dirt).
I’d be looking real close at the co-pilot. He’s was the right age to catch sudden jihadi syndrome.
Could be, going up to THAT extreme altitude that not even a flight simulator can do would serve no purpose except to kill the passengers, if there was some kind of struggle, what happened after wards, and how come the pilots didnt put in the hijacking code
Funny, this youtube video of radar evidence suggested the sudden jump in altitude ...days ago
Busted! Flight Radar Caught Changing Flight Path of Malaysia Flight 370!. Now has over a million views.
Thoroughly baffling. The more we learn the less we know.
Today they say the plane quickly climbed to well over its safety level to 45,000 ft. .then suddenly dropped to about 23,000??? Would this effectively kill the passengers ?
It would seem there is a deliberate drip of information and what is provided is conflicting and contradictory.
We’re told the manifest has now been completely vetted and no possible terrorists were aboard. Is this true?
It’s really unsettling to have an extraordinary event occur with barely any facts disclosed to the public.
I don’t know, but it’s all the Cable news networks are talking about right now.