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New:Newer;Newest:Missing plane: Piracy Theory Gains More Credence
AP ^ | March 14, 2014 | EILEEN NG and JOAN LOWY

Posted on 03/14/2014 6:34:43 PM PDT by lbryce

Piracy and pilot suicide are among the scenarios under study as investigators grow increasingly certain the missing Malaysia Airlines jet changed course and headed west after its last radio contact with air traffic controllers.

The latest evidence suggests the plane didn't experience a catastrophic incident over the South China Sea as was initially suspected. Some experts theorize that one of the pilots, or someone else with flying experience, hijacked the plane or committed suicide by plunging the jet into the sea.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 777; iran; malaysia; malaysianairlines; mh370; waronterror
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So this new theory is an amalgamation of everything. It was hijacked, committed suicide, by crashing into the sea. What I don't get is how hijacking and suicide is a likely combination.

Still waiting for someone reporting a tractor beam pulling the plane into a UFO's hanger deck.

1 posted on 03/14/2014 6:34:43 PM PDT by lbryce
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To: lbryce

Ridiculous. It was not a suicide flight. They’d have crashed it where they were. no reason to try and avoid radar and fly for hours.


2 posted on 03/14/2014 6:35:44 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: lbryce
We have a winner.
Best analysis of events;
"I don't think there is any consensus on a theory," the official said.
3 posted on 03/14/2014 6:38:34 PM PDT by lbryce (Obama:The Worst is Yet To Come)
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To: lbryce

At first I thought maybe it was like the EgyptAir flight, a suicidal pilot. I dont believe that anymore..if either of these two pilots wanted to off themselves they would have done it in the China Sea, no need to turn off the transponder, just scream out Allah Akbar and be done with it, no need to be all secretive


4 posted on 03/14/2014 6:46:35 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: lbryce

My inner cynic is beginning to think perhaps there’s a coverup going on. Who would cover up what? How about Rolls-Royce covering engine failure? Or Boeing?

Why? Can passengers’ families sue? Can RR and Boeing lose sales?


5 posted on 03/14/2014 6:47:58 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: lbryce

Pilot and 1st Officer are/were muslims. Risk factor for an internal job goes way way up.


6 posted on 03/14/2014 6:51:07 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: lbryce

These people know that America always jumps in to help in crises. Maybe they’re using this plane search as bait to lure our ships, etc., in a vulnerable position and then annihilate them.

Or Langoliers.
Or alien abduction.


7 posted on 03/14/2014 6:53:52 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: MayflowerMadam; scripter
Or Langoliers.

:)

8 posted on 03/14/2014 6:58:47 PM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: lbryce

yeah, it was pirates, that’s the ticket.


9 posted on 03/14/2014 7:00:59 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: lbryce

If it crashed into the sea why didn’t the ELTs automatically activate?


10 posted on 03/14/2014 7:02:28 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: lbryce

Pulau We, Sabang, SBC. An airport.

On an Island off the coast of Banda Aceh.


11 posted on 03/14/2014 7:06:02 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I just messed up my tagline. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: lbryce

I believe what Dr. Limbaugh and Dr. Savage said: It was probably shot down by some jet from a paranoid country, then covered it up when they realized what they did.


12 posted on 03/14/2014 7:16:36 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Nothing is more savage and brutal than justifiably angry Americans. Don’t believe me? Ask the Germa)
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To: Viennacon
"Ridiculous. It was not a suicide flight. They’d have crashed it where they were. no reason to try and avoid radar and fly for hours."

WRONG! The terrorists wanted to create an aftermath such as what we are talking about now. Also, they would choose to ditch the aircraft in water much deeper than was available around Malaysia, Viet Nam, etc, and that would be out over the Indian Ocean.

13 posted on 03/14/2014 7:17:37 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: lbryce

I’m waiting for the theory mongers to say “I am an idiot!” when the mystery is resolved and it doesn’t match their ridiculous theories.


14 posted on 03/14/2014 7:18:13 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

So the terrorists (who could have crashed the plane into MASSIVE landmarks in Malaysia including one of the tallest structures in the world) decided to just dump it into the Indian ocean to troll search and rescue.


15 posted on 03/14/2014 7:19:26 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: MuttTheHoople

That too.. Being shot down isn’t ruled out either. Malaysia directed search teams to the wrong areas, perhaps on purpose? Also, China provided satellite photos of wreckage as a diversion away from them having been involved?


16 posted on 03/14/2014 7:21:41 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: lbryce
The next time we'll see this plane, if we ever do, will be just prior to use of a chemical, bio or nuclear payload over a coastal city on the West coast.

Given the nature of what appears to be a spectacular cover up, this is as likely a scenario as any.

17 posted on 03/14/2014 7:22:44 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Viennacon

Muslim terrorists choosing their target in a Muslim country (Malaysia) is a ridiculous scenario.


18 posted on 03/14/2014 7:23:26 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Not really. Muslims bomb within their own countries all the time.


19 posted on 03/14/2014 7:24:18 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: MuttTheHoople

If it was shot down, I’d say the U.S. military is far from the least likely culprit.


20 posted on 03/14/2014 7:29:49 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: lbryce
Anyone hear the Mary Schiavo (sp.) person correct Hannity when he said “If a pilot, ..... he could...” She then said “He or SHE! In this case, it is a he...” Was that really necessary, lady?
21 posted on 03/14/2014 7:31:39 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement ("World Peace 1.20.09.")
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To: lbryce; a fool in paradise

With the investigation dragging on, and both Rolls Royce and Boeing involved and committing costly resources to it, look for Rolls Royces and Boeings go up in prices after all this is over.


22 posted on 03/14/2014 7:35:47 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: lbryce

If this plane did not suffer a sudden demise, there would have been at least some cell phone communication indicating a hijacking or a general problem, no? The fact that no human voice communication whatsoever regarding conditions in the air were received on our end points heavily to a catastrophic event that prevented the same. Instant depressurization, for example. That this plane is safely parked somewhere is, IMO, highly unlikely.


23 posted on 03/14/2014 7:38:56 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: lbryce
The New York Times, quoting American officials and others familiar with the investigation, said radar signals recorded by the Malaysian military appear to show the airliner climbing to 45,000 feet (about 13,700 meters), higher than a Boeing 777's approved limit, soon after it disappeared from civilian radar, and making a sharp turn to the west. The radar track then shows the plane descending unevenly to an altitude of 23,000 feet (7,000 meters), below normal cruising levels, before rising again and flying northwest over the Strait of Malacca toward the Indian Ocean, the Times reported.

If true... then this sounds like the planes pilots were not flying it at this point.
24 posted on 03/14/2014 7:44:49 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Not sure about that. The phones may have been confiscated early on.


25 posted on 03/14/2014 7:44:59 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Viennacon
>>>Ridiculous. It was not a suicide flight. They’d have crashed it where they were. no reason to try and avoid radar and fly for hours.

Agreed. Heard that earlier and thought "no way." Why go through the trouble if disabling the ACARS system. That takes a little doing. No need for that if it was suicide.

26 posted on 03/14/2014 7:46:13 PM PDT by NELSON111
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To: lbryce

Putin tells Bronco, “I can steal a Boeing 777 out of mid-air fag-boy”

Bronco tells Putin, “No you can’t”


27 posted on 03/14/2014 7:49:26 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: lbryce

The Strait of Malacca is the busiest shipping lane on the world. Last I sailed through there, 1980 or so, there were hundreds of ships lined up like rush hour.....I am most certain floating debris would have shown up by now.


28 posted on 03/14/2014 7:54:52 PM PDT by wxgesr (I wanna bodysurf in the Black Sea)
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To: stlnative

What I want to know is this whole “Payne Stewart” theory, can this plane, with everyone on board dying from hypoxia, still fly, for five hours, and make those weird altitudes, and of course making turn after turn after turn.


29 posted on 03/14/2014 7:55:28 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: ConservativeStatement

Whenever I see Schiavo’s mug I remember TWA 800 this chick refuses for whatever reason to believe that even for a second that something fishy happened here..she parrots the same line “Mechanical Failure” over and over again


30 posted on 03/14/2014 7:56:54 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Viennacon
No rational reason...but possibly the actions of a disturbed and us suicidal killer.
31 posted on 03/14/2014 7:58:14 PM PDT by Red Dog #1
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Nope. Auto Pilot is completely ruled out.


32 posted on 03/14/2014 7:59:34 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: eyedigress

So we can rule out the hypoxia “Payne Stewart” theory that some have suggested may have happened..that everyone on board died due to decompression and the plane just kept on flying around til it crashed


33 posted on 03/14/2014 8:01:27 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Years ago, I was in a bar in south Florida. An older (retired) gentleman was solo at the bar. He told me he worked in the airline industry, though never specified, and from there we discussed aircrafts including my amateur interest. We spoke a solid hour, he told me he preferred the L-1011’s to all commercial airplanes but thought the DC-10 was the “ugliest” plane made. I enjoyed the conversation. He mentioned this Schiavo person and not in pleasant terms but her shameful correction to Hannity tonight was a simple reminder of how her conceit is apparent.


34 posted on 03/14/2014 8:04:38 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement ("World Peace 1.20.09.")
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To: MuttTheHoople

That is likely. I tend to think horrific failure and some pilot error or evil intentions....or shot down like the 1983 Korean Air Lines Flight 007 shoot down...


35 posted on 03/14/2014 8:06:46 PM PDT by yield 2 the right
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Hypoxia may have affected the passenger cabin as it is known the plane went above 45,000 ft.

If this was a planned takeover, the cockpit would have prepared for it.

My guess is that plane is down in Indonesia somewhere.

The United States will NEVER share her military knowledge to where this plane is without a joint international assessment.


36 posted on 03/14/2014 8:10:10 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Right now that may still be in play among others.
Imagine you were a devout muslim pilot and your
religion offered you a hundred million to deliver
a 777 to them some where? That’s a possibliity.
Another is that some how they were able to ship
an electronic device that would jam communications
and spoof the GPS to fly over the Indian ocean.

I’m not sayin it was Space Aliens...
But it was Space Aliens.

Conspiracy 101.


37 posted on 03/14/2014 8:10:29 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

She’s a piece of work that’s for sure..notice they bring out all the clowns from the TWA investigation, even seen Kallstrom these past few days..its just like when a high profile person is involved in a criminal investigation, they bring out Marcia Clark, Chris Darden, and Robert Shapiro, mind as well be singing “Send in the clowns” when they appear on TV


38 posted on 03/14/2014 8:11:05 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: MayflowerMadam
Perhaps Rod Serling had the answer:

The Twilight Zone: The Odyssey of Flight 33
39 posted on 03/14/2014 8:12:58 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Sarah Barracuda
Reminds me of the scene in the movie Airplane! where the point/counterpoint guest mocked the passengers for buying tickets. He comment was so out of place, so inappropriate for the time. I have read newspaper columnists mention a hypothetical boss as "She" and "Her." I guess Mary would be upset at that since bosses can be male and female. Nah, my guess is that wouldn't disturb her.
40 posted on 03/14/2014 8:16:24 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement ("World Peace 1.20.09.")
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To: yield 2 the right

the 1983 Korean Air Lines Flight 007 shoot down...

I always kinda thought they did that to take out
Larry McDonald before he could run for President...


41 posted on 03/14/2014 8:16:42 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

I don’t know but it sounds like someone else other than the pilots were flying the plane when it jump up to 45,000, made the hard west turn, etc... Maybe a hi-jacker with some flying experience had control and thought they had enough fuel to get it across the Indian Ocean. Maybe passengers did not know what was going on at this point. (sleeping?) - Maybe they thought everything was fine or they were scared and trying to figure out how to storm the cockpit for those 3 to 4 hours. Some may have knew during those 3 to 4 hours that they were over water and that there no city lights in view, so they had time to figure out a plan to storm the cockpit.


42 posted on 03/14/2014 8:16:44 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: eyedigress

So the climb to 45,000ft would have been done to cause the Hypoxia?


43 posted on 03/14/2014 8:19:14 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: CivilWarBrewing

That was my early theory. Shot down, probably by Malaysia or China.


44 posted on 03/14/2014 8:19:21 PM PDT by virgil
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To: lbryce

Just wait until the next one goes missing.


45 posted on 03/14/2014 8:21:39 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: stlnative

Didnt Flight 93 do the same thing, go to a high altitude and down again so that the passengers would be flying around the plane..or it could have been brought up so that the passengers would not be able to breathe, quick death, no longer a threat to the hijackers..I would also like to know, how far is Pakistan or Iran from this area, could the plane have flown to either location with the amount of fuel it had on board


46 posted on 03/14/2014 8:22:11 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda

This explains the climb to 45,000 ft. (as someone said who ever was flying the plane could prepare for the climb) http://www.langleyflyingschool.com/Pages/Human%20Factor—Hypoxia.html


47 posted on 03/14/2014 8:23:36 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: stlnative

Yes


48 posted on 03/14/2014 8:25:09 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
Times of Useful Consciousness at 45,000ft = 12 to 15 seconds or less.

The New York Times, quoting American officials and others familiar with the investigation, said radar signals recorded by the Malaysian military appear to show the airliner climbing to 45,000 feet (about 13,700 meters), higher than a Boeing 777's approved limit, soon after it disappeared from civilian radar, and making a sharp turn to the west. The radar track then shows the plane descending unevenly to an altitude of 23,000 feet (7,000 meters), below normal cruising levels, before rising again and flying northwest over the Strait of Malacca toward the Indian Ocean, the Times reported.
49 posted on 03/14/2014 8:26:21 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: stlnative

link to article about the climb to 45,000 ft.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AS_MALAYSIA_PLANE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-03-13-19-57-30


50 posted on 03/14/2014 8:29:28 PM PDT by stlnative
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