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Missing MH370: Investigators Conclude Plane Was Hijacked, AP Reports
Malaysia Star ^ | Saturday March 15, 2014

Posted on 03/14/2014 9:43:30 PM PDT by nickcarraway

According to the Associated Press, a Malaysian government official has confirmed that investigators have concluded that one of the pilots or someone else with flying experience hijacked the missing Malaysia Airlines (MAS) flight MH370.

The official, who is involved in the investigation, says no motive has been established and it is not yet clear where the plane was taken.

AP is reporting that the official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorised to brief the media. The official said that hijacking was no longer a theory: “It is conclusive.”

The aircraft’s communication with the ground was severed under one hour into its flight on March 8 from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.


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1 posted on 03/14/2014 9:43:30 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

WOW just like that the light bulb went off and they concluded it was a hijacking..that simple? Something stinks here, and it smells really nasty


2 posted on 03/14/2014 9:48:46 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: nickcarraway

“Look at me. I am the captain now!”


3 posted on 03/14/2014 9:49:04 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: nickcarraway

“Look at me. I am the captain now!”


4 posted on 03/14/2014 9:49:04 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: nickcarraway

The Malaysians had the radar info from day 1.

Some shenanigans going on over there.


5 posted on 03/14/2014 9:51:11 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Bryan24
Some shenanigans going on over there.

I agree. Did Malaysia shoot it down?

6 posted on 03/14/2014 9:59:55 PM PDT by virgil
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To: Sarah Barracuda

“Something stinks here, and it smells really nasty”

Actually in that part of the world no.

This is an Islamic country. The vast majority of the population hate the West. Whether the plane went down an hour or two after takeoff from a bomb or hours later makes no difference.

This is at most a new face of the ongoing Islamic war against the West. A firefight if you will.. or in my view the same relentless attack than most refuse to recognize.


7 posted on 03/14/2014 10:01:06 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: nickcarraway

The only way to stop Plane Violence- is by Plane Control.

We need Plane Control.

We can`t keep planes out of the hands of criminals so we are going to keep planes out of the hands of everyone in Connecticut. All planes have to be to be registered or we are coming to your house and kick your door down.

In New York State the SAFE PLANE ACT will be enforced- all NY`orkers have to register their planes or the State Policee will come and get the planes. Only 10 stewardesses per plane- any more than that we will confiscate your stewardesses.


8 posted on 03/14/2014 10:01:22 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: nickcarraway

Fly it like you stole it!


9 posted on 03/14/2014 10:01:56 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Bryan24

They are just incompetent.


10 posted on 03/14/2014 10:02:26 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Flying While Muslim is getting more dangerous these days.


11 posted on 03/14/2014 10:02:55 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

What we have to know now is, who were the hijackers, did they know the pilots, how did they get into the cockpit, and what is the bigger plan here..because if they did this once they will do it again


12 posted on 03/14/2014 10:05:52 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Sorry, been kinda out of the loop. Who were the passengers? Nationality?


13 posted on 03/14/2014 10:08:40 PM PDT by blu
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To: nickcarraway

Hijacked by the gay Atheist pilot, Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah?


14 posted on 03/14/2014 10:09:36 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: blu
Nationalities of people aboard Flight 370
Nationality Pass. Crew Total
 Australia 6 6
 Canada 2 2
 China 152 152
 France 4 4
 Hong Kong[121] 1 1
 India 5 5
 Indonesia 7 7
 Iran[b] 2 2
 Malaysia 38 12 50
 Netherlands 1 1
 New Zealand 2 2
 Russia 1 1
 Taiwan 1 1
 Ukraine 2 2
 United States 3 3
Total (15 nationalities) 227 12 239

15 posted on 03/14/2014 10:11:10 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Two Iranians on board plus the capt might have a Persian/Iranian surname (Shah).

Time to think up various scenarios and dates for their execution.


16 posted on 03/14/2014 10:11:34 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

2 Ukrainians and 1 Russian, even. Hmmmm.... Getting media attention away from Putin and his invasion of Ukraine?


17 posted on 03/14/2014 10:12:12 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: blu

Two passengers were Iranian, supposedly on board to “Seek Asylum” yeah my a@@ they were


18 posted on 03/14/2014 10:12:50 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Jack Hydrazine

What country are you from?


19 posted on 03/14/2014 10:13:24 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Why do you ask?


20 posted on 03/14/2014 10:14:15 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: nickcarraway

It wasn’t the pilot or co-pilot, since the aircraft control was too erratic.

I guess Malaysian Airlines thought they were exempt from hijackings, since that only happens to infidels.

They may need to consider those intrusion-resistant cockpit doors after all. Not that it would help when your pilots invite infidel women up to the cockpit.


21 posted on 03/14/2014 10:20:39 PM PDT by zipper ("The Second Amendment IS my carry permit!" -- Ted Nugent)
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To: nickcarraway

Several Indonesian airports were closed by the big earthquake in 2004 and never officially reopened. With a little work, the runways on one or more could be extended to 5000 feet to accommodate a 777.

(Putting on tinfoil hat now, but I hope the NSA is reading this!)


22 posted on 03/14/2014 10:24:40 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: Sarah Barracuda
I'm actually less concerned about the Iranians. Shia's don't do suicide attacks, and a state-sponsored event is a no-go as far as risk versus gain. I don't believe Iran is that stupid. Plus, they are an economic and political ally to China.

My first impression with the passports: intel agents probably from the MOIS. Just like every other country in the world: they use fake ID.

23 posted on 03/14/2014 10:27:24 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: nickcarraway

Let’s say for the moment, the plane was hijacked (could be).

How long of a runway would be needed to land a plane of that size? Could it “sight land” like a small plane or would there need to be air craft controllers and operational electronics in the plane? It is a pretty big plane.

The only thing I know about flying, is I get on the plane and the flight attendant brings me a drink.


24 posted on 03/14/2014 10:28:15 PM PDT by berdie
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To: nickcarraway

Darn it, that sucks, was hoping for the lesser of evils, horrific failure of the plane/pilot error....Prayers for the innocent...may the evil doers on the plane face God’s wrath....hope it is over and not still to be seen what is next to happen...


25 posted on 03/14/2014 10:31:58 PM PDT by yield 2 the right
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To: CivilWarBrewing

2 Ukrainians and 1 Russian, even. Hmmmm.... Getting media attention away from Putin and his invasion of Ukraine?


That peaked me too, thought about the crisis in that part of the world...


26 posted on 03/14/2014 10:33:38 PM PDT by yield 2 the right
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To: Salvavida

I’ve wondered about the fake i.d.s.

I didn’t know that an Iranian citizen could leave the country at will.

So your supposition is as good as any that I can come up with.


27 posted on 03/14/2014 10:35:21 PM PDT by berdie
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To: berdie

According to this guy who was interviewed last night on Greta’s show(I think he worked for NTSB) he said that a 777 can easily land at an airstrip that is 3500 feet..he said that can be done easily..the problem is if they want to take off again, that would be a BIG problem, why..because you need a lot of fuel to take off and since this is such a small airspace by the time the plane takes off half the fuel supply would have been used, they would have to stop somewhere bigger and try taking off again


28 posted on 03/14/2014 10:42:19 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Thanks.

Even a 3500 foot landing strip is pretty long. If it were a matter of hijacking, even if the plane was just sitting there...looks to me like it would be in sight and SOMEONE (Not hollering...just don’t know HTML) would give a shout out.


29 posted on 03/14/2014 10:58:04 PM PDT by berdie
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To: zipper

>It wasn’t the pilot or co-pilot, since the aircraft control was too erratic.

If you are referring to the “erratic” descent from 450 to 230, I have a theory about that.

For just one or two men, the pilot and/or copilot for example, to disable or kill all the passengers and crew without any of them resisting or trying to make cell phone calls, the most effective way would be depressurization at altitude. There are a lot of safeguards against that happening.

The cabin is pressurized by engine power.

I think the pilot, supplied with extra O2 from all the crew cabin masks and maybe some emergency bottles, took the plane as high as it could go for both altitude and lack of oxygen. Then the pilot cut the engines off. The pressure would inevitably leave the passenger cabin in a few minutes. The masks would drop but that O2 would last passengers less than 10 minutes if they got them on at all.

Meanwhile, the pilot let the plane glide erratically from 45000 feet to 23000 feet, which would take up to a half hour, long past the survival of any of the passengers.

I haven’t heard anyone else with that theory.


30 posted on 03/14/2014 11:05:26 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (HELL, NO! BE UNGOVERNABLE! --- ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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To: berdie
A strip of about 4000ft would be needed. Give or take for load and elevation.

With some gps coordinates and skill you can program the flight computer to auto land on the strip.

In theory it could have been hijacked/hacked electronically and flown fully automatically to its destination. With all communications/inputs on the plane disabled and everyone going for the ride.

31 posted on 03/14/2014 11:14:54 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

They wouldn’t have to cut the engines off. They would just have to turn off the packs.


32 posted on 03/14/2014 11:23:19 PM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

I am thinking the co-pilot over took and probably killed the captain!!!


33 posted on 03/14/2014 11:26:55 PM PDT by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: blu

Some High Tech Defense contractors on board.

ABC news just announced that Malaysia says it was NOT an accident.


34 posted on 03/14/2014 11:32:15 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and is not afraid of the unlawful.)
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To: nickcarraway

Eventually people will wake up to Islam. Not before a lot on non-muslims die. But eventually people will wake up to Islam.

There is one more dangerous person than a Muslim. The person telling you that a Muslim is not dangerous.


35 posted on 03/14/2014 11:36:53 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: varyouga

So there would have had to be electronics activated on the plane?

Could that not have been tracked or are the tracking devices separate? I know that the normal ones were disconnected but it seems like an auto pilot could be tracked.


36 posted on 03/14/2014 11:38:01 PM PDT by berdie
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To: CivilWarBrewing

I think that two of the Americans were pre- schoolers with Chinese parents plus the Texas IBM guy.


37 posted on 03/14/2014 11:38:17 PM PDT by Rockpile
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To: berdie

Landing is only half the picture, roughly 8000 ft. to take off, without a full fuel/people/cargo load.


38 posted on 03/14/2014 11:42:39 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Rockpile

If the plane really passed over that fishing boat-——were the nav. lights on?

Come on journalists, ask questions.


39 posted on 03/14/2014 11:45:10 PM PDT by Rockpile
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To: Kit cat

IIRC, the captain had a simulator in his home. He could have run all these problems on that until he found a workable plan. I’m not saying he did, just that until we know, many things are possible.


40 posted on 03/14/2014 11:45:18 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: berdie
"but it seems like an auto pilot could be tracked.

No. There is no tracking device associated with an autopilot

41 posted on 03/15/2014 12:22:53 AM PDT by saywhatagain
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To: nickcarraway

Riveting discussion going on at (at least) one of the professional pilot’s forums.
194 pages & ongoing.

Is it news that the Malay PM said the last INMARSAT ping was at 8:11 AM “local time” (meaning Malaysia?) 2 possible routes: the Stans & the southern Indian Ocean. I hadn’t read that the Uighurs had claimed to be responsible.

just a heads up...


42 posted on 03/15/2014 12:24:19 AM PDT by KGeorge (Till we're together again, Gypsy girl. May 28, 1998- June 3, 2013)
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To: nickcarraway

Our country’s been hijacked too.


43 posted on 03/15/2014 12:25:33 AM PDT by DungeonMaster
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To: CivilWarBrewing
Following the 2 passengers from Iran referenced in [b] that footnote pulls up the following information
44 posted on 03/15/2014 12:25:48 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: KGeorge

http://gma.yahoo.com/missing-malaysia-airlines-plane-airborne-more-7-hours-064636534—abc-news-topstories.html

Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 was steered off course by someone on the plane, was airborne for more than seven hours, and may have traveled as far as Kazakhstan, the prime minster of Malaysia confirmed at a news conference today.

Prime Minister Najib Razak said that although the movements were consistent with deliberate acts, he did not confirm that the plane was hijacked.

“The search for NH 370 has entered a new phase,” he said.

He said the last confirmed communication between the plane and satellite was at 8:11 a.m. Malaysian time. He said search efforts have now focused on two corridors which include Kazakhstan, Indonesia and the Indian Ocean.


45 posted on 03/15/2014 12:27:36 AM PDT by roses of sharon ("Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise." Luke 23:43)
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To: varyouga
On the Malaysia Airlines flight MH370, the Boeing 777; (I've got over 26 years in USAF Air Traffic Control and 5 years with the FAA) , the ELTs never went off.
I'm of the frame of mind the the plane landed safely at a bare base under Muslim Brotherhood control.

If I were in control of the search, I'd look for the minimum distance that the Boeing 777 could land on at minimum fuel, and maybe even runways/landing strips with a distance of 500 feet less than minimum weight landing distance, and larger within the wider search range of 2,500 miles. So I'd look for runways and landing strips 5,000 ft and larger that are in Muslim Brotherhood areas and I'd start in the ...

Rush, the "Shoot Down" theory would have activated the (ELT) Emergency Locator Transmitter, and, unless within the first 5 mins of the hour Zulu time, would have been noticed.
Even within the first 5 minutes, satellites would have pinpointed a lat/long location after the 3rd sweep of the ELT.

We don't have the ELT location from the satellite system, so I don't believe it crashed or ditched into the water.
If it was blown up, the ELTs would have been activated and on battery power, they would have "transmitted pings" all the way down to the ground or if into the water all the way down through the water to the bottom.
They would transmit until the batteries run down, normally three days to a week. ELTs have survived many crashes and explosions, because they are designed to do just that.

My first thought of where to look would be any abandoned air strip left by any military in the Phillipeans.
Think of something like this.
An abandoned airfield from World War II.
My second thought is :
46 posted on 03/15/2014 12:36:55 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Smokin' Joe

“Landing is only half the picture, roughly 8000 ft. to take off, without a full fuel/people/cargo load.”

Cocos Islands, north of the Andamans, controlled by Myanmar. China recently expanded the runway at this former Japanese airfield (VYCI) from 5000ft, to around 7,500 feet.

Reportedly, China was going to locate an intelligence group there to monitor Indian Ocean naval movements, but it got publicized.

Oh, and landing is “Restricted” to permission of the Government of Myanmar, only.


47 posted on 03/15/2014 12:38:44 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: roses of sharon

It was aloft for seven hours? Holy carp! It could of went anywhere in that region.


48 posted on 03/15/2014 12:42:55 AM PDT by virgil
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To: virgil

Yep, the PM just finished a presser about 20 min ago. This is the latest.

Amazing stuff.


49 posted on 03/15/2014 12:48:12 AM PDT by roses of sharon ("Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise." Luke 23:43)
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To: roses of sharon; DungeonMaster

Thank you for filling that in, roses. (wasn’t even going to attempt the Khaz/ Kygzy- stan stuff) A transcript sort of thing has been posted in the last couple of pages. I’ll post if no one has seen it.

DM- so it has. Know what’s in the southern Indian Ocean?

Thinking about this while reading: Where was the NSA?

Also, an engineer who worked for the airline was/ is onboard that flight, too.


50 posted on 03/15/2014 12:54:13 AM PDT by KGeorge (Till we're together again, Gypsy girl. May 28, 1998- June 3, 2013)
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