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Are the Millennials Reliably Leftist?
American Thinker ^ | Marck 15, 2014 | Janice Shaw Crouse

Posted on 03/15/2014 12:01:10 AM PDT by neverdem

According to exit polling data, in both the 2008 and 2012 elections, Millennials (young adults 18 to 33) were a reliably leftist demographic, both in their voting and their views. Now, it appears that – even though they remain decidedly liberal on political and social issues – this influential group of Americans is up for grabs in the 2014 and 2016 elections. That is to say that no specific politician or ideology can count on their support.

The Pew Research Center’s just-released survey reveals that as they move into adulthood, the Millennial generation is “at or near the highest levels of political and religious disaffiliation recorded for any generation in the quarter-century that the Pew Research Center has been polling on these topics.” In fact, Pew reports that half of that age group claims to be politically independent, and almost a third see very little difference between the two major political parties.

The growth of Millennial independents is disturbing to both parties because only 38 percent were politically independent in 2004, meaning, as NPR puts it, “both parties have lost ground among young people.” So much money spent targeting Millennials by both parties, and yet the voting bloc considered most vulnerable to political advertising and rhetorical manipulation is not falling in line on the issues. The left is losing them on gun control, ObamaCare, and the environment, while the right is losing them on abortion (at least in this Pew survey, in contrast to concessions by the abortion groups and other polls that show Millennials as more pro-life than their parents).

One of the troubling findings in the survey is that “about three-in-ten (29%) say they are not affiliated with any religion.” Coupled with their lack of political affiliation, this rootless generation, with little grounding in historical knowledge or moral...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: millennials

1 posted on 03/15/2014 12:01:10 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Wait until they’re in their 30s and realize all the money they owe to government retirees. That should be fun.

I’m betting the millenials win that one.


2 posted on 03/15/2014 12:10:51 AM PDT by mindburglar (When Superman and Batman fight, the only winner is crime.)
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To: neverdem

The government money is going to run out while the millennialist (M.s) are in the middle of paying back the $20 trillion debt the GOP lets Obama run up.

The M.s are going to be In the middle of paying this back and their college loans their parents let them get into wont be halfway paid up.

They’ll continue to have a double digit unemployment rate

They’ll be still paying 25% of every paycheck to the SS for people who put them in this mess- that they’ll never see the end of

The peers ‘of color’ will have had a break with tuition, college entry, scholarships and job placement so some of them will have had enough of being told how racist they are, but some won’t be so sick of the arrangement

They’ve already shown signs in polls of having had enough of BO, whom they saw in their honest years (ms through HS) as being a complete bossy buffoon

They don’t like abortion a whole lottery that the baby boomers who didnt like it

And their literature and films are now dystopian tales of virtue, in particular, courage

They’re starting to reject college and the self respecting ones are horrified by the idea of living at home they see their older peers getting vortexes into

According to the poll read yesterday they don’t care about the environment

And they will have had their medical care taken away, forced, so far, to be the ones to pay for the older generation, who killed off their peers, burdening the M.s with their care and their bills, never having thought they’d ever get old, dumping these kids into daycare, not investing in relationships with them, not equipping them with self reliance, only a lot of hate white america that’s just not doing a whole lot for them

I guess some takers will be left but really that money’s got to run out and the printing farce has to stop before it becomes a security liability

Maybe there’ll be some liberals but they thrive on other people’s money and it’ll be gone


3 posted on 03/15/2014 12:27:02 AM PDT by stanne
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To: neverdem
They feel powerless and believe the only way to increase their power is to organize and act collectively through the federal government.

It's a mistaken belief, of course. Conservatives know that government at all levels has been increasing its power. The people (millennials included) have seen their individual power decrease over time. People born into such a situation don't know anything else.

4 posted on 03/15/2014 12:33:06 AM PDT by freerepublicchat
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To: neverdem

they are a bunch of lost souls. pray for every last one of them. they have been preached a soulless religion of me me me and global warming crap and their parents were not there or didn’t care to correct the brainwashing. They are not a generation of readers, ponderers, figure it out, solve it. they want to be told what to do by someone on tv.


5 posted on 03/15/2014 12:34:58 AM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: neverdem

The women sure seem to be.


6 posted on 03/15/2014 12:37:27 AM PDT by steve8714
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To: neverdem

I think the term is shallow, no faith, no history, no nation, no great ideals of romance and the mystery of the fairer sex, no great art, no great music, no concept of “civilization” and the thousands years struggle to build it, no nothing.

I don’t think they will notice the loss much, they don’t know what they are losing now, and they won’t be much more thoughtful 30 years from now.


7 posted on 03/15/2014 12:41:32 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: neverdem

What’s the saying? If you’re 20 and not a libtard you have no heart, if you’re 40 and not a Conservative you have no brain.


8 posted on 03/15/2014 12:48:52 AM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: neverdem

Reliably brainwashed


9 posted on 03/15/2014 12:51:02 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: freerepublicchat
I quite agree with your description of the millennial's instinctively turning toward government but I think it comes not from that generation's observation of government in action rather it comes and should be recognized as a triumph of social engineering.

The left has won the war over how our children shall be educated. Those who lost this war should be identified not just as conservatives but as patriots and believers in God or some reality apart and greater than themselves. So we have grown a generation ignorant of history, who despise their own country, or at least eschew patriotism as quaint, who, in the absence of a catechism, are shallow and acquisitive with no special skills which would cause society to favor them with the lifestyle which their narcissism demands.

Of course they are vulnerable to the siren of Barack Obama just as they have been indoctrinated to believe in diversity. As one who watches American television through German eyes, one can see how the German attitude toward, for example, George Bush in particular or African-Americans in general are shaped here in Germany. Germans gather their impressions of America almost exclusively from leftist media and Hollywood productions. What these images produce in the German culture is another triumph of social engineering.

We conservatives look at the failures of overreaching government and expect others to draw the same a rational conclusions we do. But those conclusions are only "rational" if they fit into a context which admits the notion that government is the problem and not a solution. If your context does not accept this possibility, you cannot draw conclusions we conservatives reach.

The social engineering produced in the millennial generation is that which was sought after by The Frankfurt School and it is grist for Saul Alinsky's mill. We lose the battle at the PTA level and suffer the consequences in national elections.


10 posted on 03/15/2014 1:01:46 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Veggie Todd

It is a saying that doesn’t cover this situation, we have never seen anything like this, they only voted 32% republican in 2008 and will always vote democrat.


11 posted on 03/15/2014 1:02:25 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: neverdem
Actually, the Right is losing Millenials to the same issues the Left is, because they fail to stop the Left, fail to de-fund Obamacare, and are pandering on the Amnesty issue while young people are either unemployed or wanting better jobs.

The construction of a white, male underclass is well underway.

12 posted on 03/15/2014 1:07:15 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: neverdem
http://youtu.be/pR6h2imFGv4
13 posted on 03/15/2014 1:18:21 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: ansel12

You’re right. I think the only ones that will vote Conservative will be the ones that own a business. We’re doomed.


14 posted on 03/15/2014 1:32:28 AM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: nathanbedford

Indeed.


15 posted on 03/15/2014 1:36:03 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: neverdem

I just read on Twitter from someone that the 18-year-olds went for Romney. If you just take the 18s as a separate group. Encouraging, no?


16 posted on 03/15/2014 1:36:06 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: ansel12
It is a saying that doesn’t cover this situation, we have never seen anything like this, they only voted 32% republican in 2008 and will always vote democrat.

I wouldn't bet on that.

Millennials Abandon Obama and Obamacare

IMHO, Millennials are still up for grabs. Their voting for Obama dropped a lot from 2008 to 2012.

17 posted on 03/15/2014 1:45:39 AM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: firebrand
John Podhoretz ‏@jpodhoretz 12h

help, hivemind. other day someone posted something about how 18 year olds (just 18 yr olds) voted for Romney over Obama. anyone see this?

This was posted at about 4 pm on Friday.

18 posted on 03/15/2014 2:01:14 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: stanne
They don’t like abortion a whole lottery that the baby boomers who didnt like it

Huh?

19 posted on 03/15/2014 2:21:42 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault
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To: Veggie Todd

I’d say that used to be valid.

Based on my own experience from a decade ago and the conversations with my nephew currently there is a mild awakening going on.

It is funny to speak with my nephew, as he discusses his younger counterparts in college, and notes their complete ignorance of history. As he explained to me the young college student is well steeped in Marxist and socialist ideas. Or they are decidedly libertarian (Ron Paulish).

Even my nephew, who is not liberal by any notion, claims the Constitution doesn’t work. No matter how much I point out to him, the things in our culture/government he complains about are enumerated in the document. I think this generation doesn’t understand our nation has had the proverbial soft coup’. They don’t realize it because they were raised and taught in Marx.

Just last Sunday we had a conversation about the role of God in our country. My nephew said he thought he was starting to lean atheist, this partly due to the socialism of the church/religions.

I don’t know if we can get the America as we knew it back. Even as we embraced reacquainting ourselves, with our own nation’s founding principles with 9-12 groups and the Tea Party, we continue to fail to pass on those ideas to the millennials. We’ve got to come to terms with the idea that those values are indeed novel to many of the next generation.


20 posted on 03/15/2014 3:15:04 AM PDT by EBH (And the head wound was healed...)
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To: neverdem

The fact is that we have never seen anything like this, that doesn’t mean they will always be the same, and no one expected that in 2012, but they will never be a republican generation.


21 posted on 03/15/2014 3:18:10 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Veggie Todd

Owning a business will help, but the major factor will be if they become believing Christians or not.


22 posted on 03/15/2014 3:20:45 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: neverdem

My children are Millennials and they are great young adults. None of them voted for Obama and none of them have any college debt. Two of them have graduated from college and are full time employed. One of them is still in college, in ROTC, and will become an officer in the military. So, there are plenty of good Millennials out there. It just depends on how they were raised. There were many loser Baby Boomers and Gen Xers too. Our country has a lot of problems, no doubt. Many elements of popular culture are toxic to good social order and the concept of liberty. This toxic culture does not make the job of being a parent any easier. None-the-less, parent still have a job to do and many aren’t doing it. If there is any deficiency in this generation, then the fault resides with the parents who failed to do their jobs. Much of this failure can blamed on divorce and the plain selfishness of people who produce a child and then don’t stay together to raise that child. Sure, we can blame government, the terrible public schools, Hollywood, or just the general decay of a declining, decadent society, but in the end, the parents will make the difference.


23 posted on 03/15/2014 3:42:30 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededication to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: neverdem
These reports on Millennial voters always leave out the most crucial factor.

Race.

Young people tend to vote slightly to the Left of their parents.

White Millennial voters gave a solid majority to Mitt Romney in 2012.

Even white females, 18-30 years old, voted 49%-48% for Romney.

The political damage is being done by non-white Millennial voters.

They make up about 45% of the voters in that age group, and they vote 80% for the Democrat Party.

Until we figure out how to convert them to Conservatives, our country will continue to move to the Left.

24 posted on 03/15/2014 3:57:17 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: neverdem

Because the Baby Boomer and older conservatives are cowards and allow the left to hold the moral high ground. Who is going to warm up to cowards?


25 posted on 03/15/2014 4:06:16 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: neverdem

Son is staunchly conservative. DIL is too; Well, NOW she is conservative! She voted for Obama first time around. She was in college at the time. Really regrets it now. She learned her lesson before the second go-round. She is now mid-20’s and he is 30. Their baby will be born within the next few weeks. They fear for her future, given the loon we have in the White House. Wish more young people would wake up.


26 posted on 03/15/2014 4:42:45 AM PDT by sneakers
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To: steve8714

“The women sure seem to be.”

They will be until blacks get them removed from the affirmative action racket; in the meantime, they get the freebies and benefits of “preferred Americans”.


27 posted on 03/15/2014 5:15:08 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: mindburglar

I would consider them more “selfist” than “leftist”; they will vote for whatever benefits them. Six years ago it appeared to be the Dems; two years ago the ones that bother to vote seem to have lost faith in them. While the white male group may vote Republican (since they are often shut out of higher education, employement and promotions), at this point they make up a small percentage of young people. Young minorities (and white women) will continue voting liberal because they’ve been convinced by the left that they can’t compete with whites, which is turning into a self-fulfilling prophecy of sorts: nobody expects anything of them in education and work, so they don’t learn or accomplish anything.

One factor in favor of conservatives politically is that many of these young people can see the standard of living their parents had enjoyed, and resent that it is no longer available to so many of them.


28 posted on 03/15/2014 5:20:05 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: neverdem

The stage is being set for a future “Idiocracy”.


29 posted on 03/15/2014 5:23:07 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: 3Fingas

“If there is any deficiency in this generation, then the fault resides with the parents who failed to do their jobs. Much of this failure can blamed on divorce and the plain selfishness of people who produce a child and then don’t stay together to raise that child.”

This generation (for a variety of reasons) isn’t breeding; that is having demographic consequences visible everywhere. When a recent study proclaimed that “conservative” areas had higher rates of divorce, it conveniently omitted the fact that marriage itself is practically dead in “liberal” areas - divorce will be wiped out by the absence of marriage to start with...


30 posted on 03/15/2014 5:23:28 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: neverdem

They will their majority to the democrats, and spread the remaining 49% across the libertarian and republican brands. The REPUBLICAN Party is over, me thinks, due to their betrayal and wishy washy record when the real voting counted on major issues. The power sharing between the politicians from both major party’s does not reflect what the voters sent them to Washington to accomplish. Obama ran on an outsider platform. The libertarian platform is essentially an outsider platform and may well resonate into a solid bloc of the conservative platform that will include a small Republican party.


31 posted on 03/15/2014 5:28:54 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: Right Wing Assault

My auto correct

They don’t like abortion a whole lot more than the baby boomers do


32 posted on 03/15/2014 5:38:24 AM PDT by stanne
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To: neverdem

Lets be honest, most of them just wanted to smoke pot. If Paul had been the Republican nominee, they would have voted for him in MUCH larger numbers.

(by the way i’m not a Ron Paul supporter)


33 posted on 03/15/2014 5:42:10 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: mindburglar

Is it just me or does it seem like the “Millenials” would be most likely to be the generation to give this country away. To not even let it slip through their fingers...To not even realize what they had when it’s finally gone.


34 posted on 03/15/2014 6:45:36 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: neverdem

“Their voting for Obama dropped a lot from 2008 to 2012.”

A big factor now is the NSA expose’s and Snowden. He is a hero to the millenials. They love their etoys, but don’t like the idea of being spied on. So some healthy distrust of government has developed, if not Dim government.


35 posted on 03/15/2014 7:04:07 AM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: Smokin' Joe

The reason many Millenials see no difference between the parties is the similarities between Democrats and RINOS.


36 posted on 03/15/2014 8:00:18 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: tbw2
Precisely. There were a lot of younger folks at our TEA party meetings, but when the 'pubbies (who were electable (arrrgh!) got the nominations and started acting GOPe, it was just same ol' same ol' to them, and they drifted away.

One of the stupidest things the stupid party has failed at is harnessing the inherent anti-establishment nature of youth (Because the stinking Liberals ARE the establishment!)

37 posted on 03/15/2014 8:08:00 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: neverdem
The left is losing them on gun control, ObamaCare, and the environment, while the right is losing them on abortion (at least in this Pew survey, in contrast to concessions by the abortion groups and other polls that show Millennials as more pro-life than their parents).

Millennians are more pro-life BECAUSE they're the first full generation to be survivors of the abortion culture. THEY LIVED.

38 posted on 03/15/2014 9:33:58 AM PDT by GOPJ (From a bellwether to an "oh-whateverrrr" in less than a single news cycle. -freeper Fightin Whitey)
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To: neverdem
They are till proven otherwise.

That all said, I'm noticing a difference with those who are 18-24 now compared to those who were 18-24 in 2008. Those 18 then saw Bush as the f'up. Those today wonder what the big deal was with Obama and see him as an f'up.

There's a ways to go, but it's not all bad news.

39 posted on 03/15/2014 9:43:00 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: Rennes Templar

>>A big factor now is the NSA expose’s and Snowden. He is a hero to the millenials. <<

I think this is one of the reasons Senator Paul makes a big deal about the NSA spying in some of his speeches. He knows that issue resonates among younger voters.


40 posted on 03/15/2014 12:19:53 PM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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To: neverdem
According to exit polling data, in both the 2008 and 2012 elections, Millennials (young adults 18 to 33) were a reliably leftist demographic, both in their voting and their views.

If you're 18 you're probably not "reliably" much of anything. They were young. They got caught up in the Obama thing. They knew gay people and tried not to get on their bad side. That's a long way from being Leninists or Maoists.

41 posted on 03/15/2014 12:23:11 PM PDT by x
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To: tbw2

>>The reason many Millenials see no difference between the parties is the similarities between Democrats and RINOS.<<

I don’t think it’s that, so much as it’s a fact that Congress isn’t able to get anything done with each party controlling one House. If the difference between Rinos and Dems was as minute as people often state in here, a lot more bills would be being passed and signed by the President.

Instead we have gridlock, which is good from our perspective, but which makes Congress (both parties) look ineffective and meaningless to less attentive voters, including the young.

Add to that the incessant drumbeat about Congress’s poor favorability rating by the MSM and it’s not surprising that young voters see very little difference between the parties.

But if the GOP takes the Senate in November, those same voters will see hundreds of bills sent to Obama’s desk, and will become quite angry when he refuses to sign many (most?) of them. That is when the GOP will have the best chance of attracting younger voters allegiance, an allegiance that could last if enough thought is put into the bills they send up.


42 posted on 03/15/2014 12:26:23 PM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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To: equaviator

Let’s hope not.


43 posted on 03/15/2014 8:13:21 PM PDT by mindburglar (When Superman and Batman fight, the only winner is crime.)
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To: equaviator

It would be amazing if they realized what they are losing since very few of them have ever been taught any REAL history. What most of them think they know is mainly propaganda which has been passed off as history. One glaring example which is not by any means restricted to millenials is the belief that Richard Nixon was impeached and William Clinton was not. They are wrong on both counts. Many believe that “capitalism” is a dirty word, even many who are small scale capitalists themselves may believe it. This is of course another trait that is by no means confined to millenials. A lot of people condemn the system which has made the country the greatest economic powerhouse ever known. They don’t realize that while a lot of capitalists are anything but perfect the true capitalist system is nothing more than the free market system, the only economic system that has ever worked for the greatest benefit of all. They look to government for solutions to problems that would not exist except for government having created them in the first place. I consider the “Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act” AKA “Obamacare” to be a supreme example of an absurd government “solution” to a problem which is totally a creation of government. There can be no hope for the recovery of America unless and until this monstrosity is recognized for the abomination that it is and is totally rejected in favor of a free market solution.


44 posted on 03/16/2014 3:24:34 PM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: RipSawyer

“What most of them think they know is mainly propaganda which has been passed off as history.”

As the old saying goes, “They don’t know that they don’t know” but now it applies to more of them than ever and as time goes by it becomes more obvious to those who are no longer or have never been susceptible to this process of indoctrination. I’m one of those Baby Booomers who naively participated in the counterculture of the 1970’s but now I’m (for all intents and purposes) “all in” as a conscientious adult with a more certain kind of present day counterculture. It’s no wonder that to me and others like me, the big picture has been made to appear upside down AND backwards at the default level, while to others it represents a celebrated “New Normal”.


45 posted on 03/17/2014 2:45:44 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: equaviator

“It’s no wonder that to me and others like me, the big picture has been made to appear upside down AND backwards at the default level, while to others it represents a celebrated “New Normal”.”
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A very good description of the situation. I am actually a member of the so-called, “Silent Generation”, I was born five days before D-day, the baby boom began in 1946. I
have often said that it is like living on a different planet now when compared to my youth. Everything that was right is now wrong and vice versa. For those who grew up with Superman the shortest description of today is “Bizarro World”.


46 posted on 03/17/2014 5:46:03 AM PDT by RipSawyer
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