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Michelle Nunnís Gun Problem
Townhall.com ^ | March 15, 2014 | Brandon Howell

Posted on 03/15/2014 10:07:40 AM PDT by Kaslin

Michelle Nunn’s got a gun problem.

The Democratic Senate hopeful in Georgia, one half of the That 70’s Show ticket looking to bring the party back to prominence in the state, seems to have a problem telling voters where she’s at on the Second Amendment.

In a weekend interview, she voiced opposition to recently passed Georgia legislation loosening restrictions on carrying firearms in the state, which passed by an overwhelming margin. That in and of itself is unlikely to win any of the rural conservative votes needed to pull off an upset.

Then things got dodgy.

When asked if she supported the idea of cutting ammo clip sizes from 15 to 10 rounds, she said “I think there are a lot of different conversations around that, and I think it’s a little arbitrary how we define that, and so it’s not something that I’m focused on right now.”

If you’re scratching your head, you’re not the first one.

How in the name of common-sense is cutting ammo clip size defined arbitrarily? It’s a yes or no question, Nunn just can’t afford for Georgia voters to know where she stands on the issue.

Bad as it is, that answer came after she was pressed on the topic. Her initial response said even less.

That the issue is the Second Amendment is even more troubling given the forces powering her campaign.

Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg maxed out to Nunn’s campaign in the final fundraising quarter of 2013, this coming in the same year in which he called on donors to quit contributing to Democrats who oppose his pro-gun control agenda.

That led onlookers to speculate he’s got his eyes on some reciprocity if she emerges victorious.

Such musings and evasions are hardly welcome for a campaign already dependent on lightening in a bottle for an upset in November.

It’s hardly surprising, though, when you consider the national forces that are doling out donations and resources to support Nunn’s effort to net a vote for Harry Reid as Majority Leader.

Bloomberg, Warren Buffett, Howard Dean, and Hanoi Jane Fonda have all contributed since the launch of her bid in July. The majority leader himself teased her announcement by citing how necessary a Peach State victory is for both himself and the Obama administration to accomplish their agenda in coming years.

Given this week's NBC/WSJ poll, in which 48 percent of respondents said they were unlikely to vote for a "strong Obama supporter," those comments feed into Republican arguments against her.

One of Nunn’s first endorsers was pro-choice EMILY’s List, which her campaign made a point of declining to comment on publicly. Unfortunately for them, they were caught running Facebook ads touting their backing and calling for support so she “can keep fighting for the issues that matter to women and families.”

All of which reads more like a rap sheet than Democratic revival in a state like Georgia, which hasn’t elected a Democrat to statewide office in eight years, with the last senator being in 1996.

The only polls that have shown Nunn competitive with the crowded slate of Republicans vying for a shot have been conducted by Public Policy Polling, usually commissioned by proudly progressive outfit Better Georgia, and often shown as deeply misconstruing the makeup of Georgia’s electorate.

Just this week a survey generated national headlines for showing her tied or leading a handful of would-be rivals (though it couldn’t be bothered to include all major comers). When broken down by party, the poll’s electoral makeup simply said around half “generally vote in Republican primaries,” whatever that means.

In other words – we’re dealing with gamed polls to fit a narrative, not accurately reflect the current political winds of a state.

Much like digital ads touting a pro-choice group’s support says something on that issue, donations from the likes Bloomberg and the others serve as tell for Nunn’s feelings on the 2nd Amendment, among other issues.

We just aren’t likely to hear her talk about them from now until November.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: 2014midterms; banglist; ga2014

1 posted on 03/15/2014 10:07:40 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Secret editorial guidance has, for a decade or more, been to show Republicans with their mouths open and Democrats with their mouth’s closed. (I read a study on this while Bush 2 was president and in the hundreds of examples the practice was obvious and widespread.)Given that, this is an astonishingly unflattering photo.


2 posted on 03/15/2014 10:11:47 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Kaslin

What is meant by “that 70’s show ticket”?


3 posted on 03/15/2014 10:13:09 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Kaslin

She’s a Democrat. She will support abortions, higher taxes, and gun control. On that you can depend. And, she knows what’s best for you.


4 posted on 03/15/2014 10:14:23 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: Gen.Blather

I’d say it looks just like her.


5 posted on 03/15/2014 10:15:01 AM PDT by KC Burke (Officially since Memorial Day they are the Gimmie-crat Party.ha)
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To: Kaslin
the idea of cutting ammo clip sizes from 15 to 10 rounds

Allow me to be the first. They are called 'magazines'. Not clips.

6 posted on 03/15/2014 10:16:28 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Do I really need ot use the sarcasm tag?)
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To: Kaslin
In other words – we’re dealing with gamed polls to fit a narrative, not accurately reflect the current political winds of a state.

Says it all. Elections by artificial narrative.

And, don't tell me, but I am guessing that there is a libertarian candidate in this race, right?

7 posted on 03/15/2014 10:17:37 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator ( 2+2 = V)
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To: Kaslin
Georgia has been comfortable with wishy-washy 2nd Amendment candidates in the past...


8 posted on 03/15/2014 10:18:15 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Kaslin

“... if she supported the idea of cutting ammo clip sizes from 15 to 10 rounds ...”
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The state of Georgia has no restriction on “magazine clip ammo bullet” capacity.


9 posted on 03/15/2014 10:18:54 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Gen.Blather
this is an astonishingly unflattering photo.

I did a search on her. Her pics don't get any better.

10 posted on 03/15/2014 10:20:01 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Do I really need ot use the sarcasm tag?)
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To: KC Burke

“I’d say it looks just like her.”

Almost every MSM photo of Hillary looks as though it’s had the glamor Photoshop treatment. If you see her live it almost appears she’s a different person from the “candid” magazine shots. This photo would have been improved if they’d at least used one with her mouth closed.


11 posted on 03/15/2014 10:20:25 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

“I did a search on her. Her pics don’t get any better. “

I suppose that’s good. It’s less likely she’ll set any legs to tingling.


12 posted on 03/15/2014 10:21:20 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Kaslin

She’s with the demonic party ... therefor, she wants to take guns from citizens and impose tyranny.

That’s what the demonic party is all about.


13 posted on 03/15/2014 10:25:05 AM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: PoloSec

“that 70’s show ticket”...
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The heirs to defunct Georgia democrat politicians, Sam Nunn and Jimmy Carter,
running only on their name recognition with no substance.


14 posted on 03/15/2014 10:28:28 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Kaslin

The SchoolMaster 

 

 

Mr. Griswald walked up to the wagon and introduced himself.  I introduced myself, as well as Mark and Billy Davis, Mark’s friend.  “These children are twelve minutes late for class.”  Mr. Griswald looked at his pocket watch to enforce his statement.  I tried to explain how a Western school operated.  Many families didn’t have time pieces, so the children had to judge their pace by the bell.  “They’ll be no bell for my classroom.  Punctuality is the responsible of the individual.” His expression was firm.

“I see,” I stated.  But I wasn’t so sure he saw.  “Well fellas, you better hustle!”  I gave Mark a pat on the back and helped him down off the wagon.  Then I helped Billy down.  He accidently hit my rifle and it fell off the wagon.  Billy immediately apologized for his clumsiness. 

Naturally, my boy Mark bent over to pick it up and hand it to me.  “Don’t touch that!” Mr. Griswald suddenly shouted.

Mark’s hand froze.  “But it’s not-“ he started as he once again bent to pick it up.

“I said don’t touch it!” Mr. Griswald ordered gruffly.

I stared at Mr. Griswald, not quite believing that he was talking to my son like that – especially when I was still standing right there!  I didn’t much appreciate it either.  “But it’s not good for a gun to stay in the dirt,” Mark tried to explain calmly.

But Mr. Griswald was anything but calm!  He was acting like Mark had just threatened to burn the school down or something!  “Take your places in the schoolroom…immediately!” he ordered Mark and Billy.

Hello?  Didn’t he see me, the father, sitting right there in the wagon?  Didn’t he think I was capable of disciplining my own child?   But Mark said nothing.  He nodded, gave me one last look, then hurried into the classroom.

Mr. Griswald bent over and picked up my rifle.  He held it out to me and asked, “Is this gun loaded, Mr. McCain?”

Now I ask, what good is an unloaded gun?  “Certainly,” I answered as I took my gun from him and sat it securely on my lap.

“In the name of sanity, how can you place a loaded weapon within easy reach of children?” 

I remained calm knowing he was from back east and not used to the western culture’s way of life.  “Your points well taken, Mr. Griswald,” I stated.  “But it can’t go off without being cocked.  And the reason it’s loaded is because a rifle’s a necessary safeguard in open country.”  I tried educating him on some facts about the West.

“Safeguard?  Carelessness is inexcusable anywhere!” Mr. Griswald stated.

“I just explained-“ I started, but he wouldn’t let me finish Mr. high and mighty thought he was so much wiser then me.  He ordered – yes, ordered – me not to bring a firearm to the school again.

I stared at his retreating figure as he walked into the schoolhouse.  Boy, did I feel sorry for those kids right now!


15 posted on 03/15/2014 10:32:27 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Gen.Blather

Unless they are cankles!


16 posted on 03/15/2014 10:33:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kaslin
ammo clip size

They are MAGAZINES.

As far as Michelle Nunn goes, her dad voted anti Second Amendment.

I wouldn't expect anything less from daughter.

17 posted on 03/15/2014 10:46:35 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: Kaslin

Homely woman = Democrat...rarely fails.


18 posted on 03/15/2014 10:50:07 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Sam Nunn was worse.


19 posted on 03/15/2014 11:23:57 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: Kaslin
"[Sam] Nunn served for 24 years as a United States Senator from Georgia (1972 until 1997) as a member of the Democratic Party."

Hmmmmmmmm. A Democratic Southern Senator from back in the day. Wonder what sort of atmosphere Michelle was raised in regarding "the darkies"?

We do know that her dad is a member of Augusta National, which only allowed in a "darkie" in 1990, and only allowed women in 2012.

I can guess there's major amounts of hypocrisy floating around behind closed doors there...

20 posted on 03/15/2014 12:35:32 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Kaslin

Looks like she belongs in a corn fiend to protect the crops.


21 posted on 03/15/2014 1:35:45 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: Kaslin

Michelle Nunn has a better chance of getting killed in a drone strike than getting elected to GA’s senate seat. It will be a Republican, hopefully Paul Broun.


22 posted on 03/15/2014 2:16:28 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Elsie

I remember that conversation.


23 posted on 03/15/2014 8:28:06 PM PDT by Lucas McCain
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To: PoloSec

They’re running the grandson of Jimmy Carter and the son of Sam Nunn in an attempt to bring back the Democrats’ success in Georgia during the 1970s (when Jimmy Carter and Sam Nunn were political gold in the state).


24 posted on 03/16/2014 7:03:21 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: Gen.Blather

Is this person a relative of Sam Nunn?


25 posted on 03/16/2014 7:27:19 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: ridesthemiles

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Nunn

Apparently his daughter. Politics is all about dynasties, it seems. Once you have the contacts they become mutually supportive and multi-generational. We’re fortunate the Kennedys are out of the picture.


26 posted on 03/16/2014 7:34:12 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Kaslin

I was just thinking that knowing the fate of Sam’s daughter probably will extend past November 4, 2014; that race will go well into Wednesday PM before she can be declared a winner. So, I would expect CBS to “not call” this race until the early morning hours of November 5, and even then they won’t be sure. Has GA ever defeated a Nunn; I am not sure but don’t think so.


27 posted on 03/16/2014 11:52:32 AM PDT by Theodore R. (It was inevitable: Texans will always be for Cornball and George P.!)
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To: Joe 6-pack

GA voters are too uninformed to know who is and who isn’t for the Second Amendment. Many don’t know what the Second Amendment is.


28 posted on 03/16/2014 11:55:54 AM PDT by Theodore R. (It was inevitable: Texans will always be for Cornball and George P.!)
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To: Kaslin

Webb Hubbell sure got around.

29 posted on 03/16/2014 12:00:45 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: rabidralph

She ain’t nuthin’ but a pencil neck geek.


30 posted on 03/16/2014 12:06:51 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: Darren McCarty

Yeh for all you fellow Georgians who wax nostalgic about Sam Nunn. He was just another democrat.


31 posted on 03/16/2014 12:10:34 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Southern or Appalachian accents on politicians don't make one conservative. Too many people, including those outside of the South think that.

Bill Clinton, Sam Nunn, Louise Slaughter, Jimmy Carter, Bob Graham, Lindsay Graham, Lloyd Doggett.

32 posted on 03/16/2014 2:50:56 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Broun is probably the only Republican that could lose.


33 posted on 03/16/2014 8:25:44 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Gen.Blather

I don’t think flattering photos of her exist.


34 posted on 03/16/2014 8:25:51 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy

MIchelle Nunn ain’t daddy. Don’t let the Dem hype get to you.


35 posted on 03/17/2014 8:10:17 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2; AuH2ORepublican

My comment has nothing to do any supposed electoral strength possessed by Nunn (I share your low opinion of her) but rather Broun’s weakness. Creationists in their late 60’s are not good candidates.


36 posted on 03/17/2014 8:45:00 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy

This is the year for electing right wing rads. Moderates just won’t do. They never change anythng. Go vote for Jack Kingston or Phil Gingrey. Both of them will go for amnesty. What do you think they will do? Compromise, compromise, compromise. It will be Saxby and Johnny lite.

Personally I don’t share your opinion that Broun is weak. I think he will win the senate seat.


37 posted on 03/17/2014 8:59:09 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2; AuH2ORepublican

Creationism is a wedge issue for rational people. His association with Ron Paul wing of the party is also a negative.

I favor Karen Handel over Gingrey and Kingston. Should could use some fundraising help by the looks of it.


38 posted on 03/17/2014 5:20:15 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy

Karen Handel is my 2nd choice after Broun. I am thinking yu are not from GA. The rural vote here will not be all that upset about the creationism thing. Don’t let the media smears get to you. Its pretty bogus. I could care less about it and a lot of others won’t care either.

Go to Time magazine and read the weak barforama rah rah article about Michelle Nunn. Its laughable. I just read it at the doctor’s office this afternoon. Its a joke.


39 posted on 03/17/2014 5:26:15 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2; Impy

Even if Broun cleaned up with the rural vote, he could still lose by underperforming in the Atlanta suburbs because he’s an outspoken creationist (not to mention a fellow traveler of the Paulbots). If he can’t get 55%+ in counties like Cobb and Gwinnett, or over 70% in the suburbs north of Atlanta, the Spawn of Nunn will beat him. While I don’t think that Broun would be an underdog against Nunn—it still is a midterm election in GA in a bad environment for Democrats—I definitely can see Nunn beating Broun, while I don’t think that any of the other Republican candidates would be in any danger of losing to Nunn.

My preferences are Handel, Gingrey and Kingston, in that order.


40 posted on 03/17/2014 5:49:11 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: rabidralph

“Webb Hubbell sure got around.”


LOL!

Last time a saw a mouth like that, it was hanging from a fish hook.


41 posted on 03/17/2014 5:50:28 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: Impy; fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued; BillyBoy; GOPsterinMA; campaignPete R-CT; Perdogg; NFHale

In that picture, the Spawn of Nunn looks like a cross between Webb Hubbell and Kimmy Gibbler.


42 posted on 03/17/2014 5:52:29 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; GOPsterinMA; NFHale; Perdogg

Have you ever heard Bob Saget’s (profane) song “Danny Tanner was not gay”? Hilarious. Kimmy Gibler is referenced in the best line.


43 posted on 03/17/2014 6:14:04 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Gingrey and Kingston are just Saxby and Johnny. They will run up to DC and vote for amnesty in a heartbeat. They will be Mitch’s beaches.


44 posted on 03/17/2014 7:11:42 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Whatever. Phil Gingrey is as conservative a congressman as GA has ever seen. As for Kingston, yeah, he probably would vote like Chambliss (although he isn’t pro-abortion like Isakson), but at least he wouldn’t have like a 50% chance of letting the 100% liberal Large-Mouth-Bass Nunn get elected to a six-year Senate term, as would be the case if Broun won the primary run-off.


45 posted on 03/17/2014 7:27:08 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

“...Nunn just can’t afford for Georgia voters to know where she stands on the issue. ...”

Then Georgia voters can’t afford to take the chance on her.

“...Bloomberg, Warren Buffett, Howard Dean, and Hanoi Jane Fonda have all contributed since the launch of her bid in July. ...”

With THAT line up of leftard douchebags, she’s pretty much a giant neon “DO NOT PASS GO” sign” to gunnies.


46 posted on 03/18/2014 5:06:45 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Well in all honesty it would be hard to elect any republican that is worse than Chambliss or Isaakson. I just don’t want to get someody who runs up to DC and the next thing you know they are licking Mitch’s shoes.

Gingrey screwed the pooch with me trying figure out whether its rape or rape rape. Crikes! And people are fuming about Paul Broun’s comments on creationism.


47 posted on 03/18/2014 8:42:46 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Classic!


48 posted on 03/18/2014 3:11:59 PM PDT by rabidralph
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