Skip to comments.False flag ops in Ukraine and Syria
Posted on 03/15/2014 11:05:45 AM PDT by varmintman
Several videos dealing with the leaked phone conversation between Estonian foreign minister Paet and Catherine Ashton have been going viral on youtube over the past three or four days, e.g. at about location 8:20 of this item:
A few other takes:
One question which nobody is asking is this: To what extent is the sniping episode and the presumed legitimacy of blaming it on Yanukovich and/or Russians serving as a pretext for American attempts at involvement at this point? SHOULD the US government be going forward with ANYTHING here before the question is resolved?
As I see it, the US has gone to the well a couple of too many times with false-flag ops over the past couple of decades beginning with SlicK Clinton and Izetbegovic and their 5000 dead bodies, up to the most recent thing of trying to blame the use of sarin gas on Assad in Syria and, past some point, the world has seen this little show often enough that they get wise to it. They're probably starting to view us as a bunch of dangerous lunatics.
For that matter, given the nearness in time of the false-flag op in Syria and this latest failure, there is a big question as to who in our state department wants so badly to start some sort of a war with Russia, and why.
It would be good if somebody on the Republican/conservative side of things would start some sort of an investigation of our state department.
The Russians still suck. I want Ukraine to be free of all Russian interference. I won’t get what I want.
“It would be good if somebody on the Republican/conservative side of things would start some sort of an investigation of our state department.”
Globalism is the goal. Party affiliation has no real significance in the NWO.
Moscow Around 50,000 people rallied in central Moscow Saturday in protest at Russia’s intervention in Ukraine, a day before the Crimean peninsula votes on switching to Kremlin rule.
Waving both Ukrainian and Russian flags and shouting slogans heard during the anti-government protests in Kiev, the demonstrators urged Russian President Vladimir Putin to pull troops back from a Cold War-style confrontation.
Marchers carried placards reading “Putin, get out of Ukraine” and others comparing Russia’s move on Crimea with the Nazi annexation of the Sudetenland as Europe rushed headlong into World War II.
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Are you saying this might be a Wag The Dog scenario? If so you just might be right. Just look at Obama’s poll numbers.
I wonder if Putin is in on it.
It wasn't the protesters who were shooting themselves. That's a blame-shifting Kremlin fantasy.
It occurs on a higher level than that. At this point, US Presidents are mostly avatars.
Watch the videos and you’ll see with your own eyes how the Yanukovych troops were using rifles and shotguns to shoot the protestors, including those protestors previously shot and lying upon the ground. It matters not what someone who was not there has to say as false information or false propaganda, when you can see with your own eyes how the uniformed snipers were shooting and killing unarmed and incapacitated protestors at long distances.
The pressure for regime change must be in Moscow to remove the Putin autocrats before they can provoke a general war in Europe with their invasions of the former Soviet Republics and former Warsaw Pact slaves.
If Ukraine wants to be part of the European Union so bad let them take care of Ukraine’s problem. All I hear is silence.
Avatars. Yes. They are sock puppets no longer.
Its not "our" State Department. They may operate in our name and on our dime but they don't represent the interests of the American people. They work for the Globalists.
U.S. Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice was visiting Putin at his dacha when Yanukovych emerged from another room in the dacha for Putin to introduce him, before Putin installed Yanukovych as the head of the Ukrainian government by massive vote fraud. Yanukovych was quite obviously Putin’s puppet in the schemes to force the Ukraine into the control of Putin’s autocratic regime. When Putin’s bid to control the Ukraine through his puppet, Yanukovych, had repeatedly failed too many times over a period of years, Putin realized he was running out of time and needed to resort to another direct use of force to gain what he had failed to achieve indirectly through subterfuge and subversion.
Nice Ad Hominem attack there. Were you the champ on the high school debate team?
The Council on Foreign Relations. You never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
You are right, and American idiots that still think we are good guys are delusional fools. But they are fools who do not know better.
I think the American people are still "the good guys" for the most part. The men that have hijacked the US government through fraud and treachery are definitely "the bad guys". Its important to realize the distinction.
The dilemma is do good people cease to be good when they support a bad government, even if they've been tricked into doing so?
Blame Ukraine for Putin’s aggression. Smart.
Agreed, but how do they find out they are fooled? They do not recognize the distinction.
I see it here on FR.
The real question is how much FR is to become a forum for Russian propaganda?
The call is real, but it’s about two European officials speculating about hearsay from a woman named Olga who claims to have evidence that it was the protestors who had themselves shot. Not exactly an admission of guilt there.
And it was Russia Today (New Pravda) who leaked this call, I wonder where they got it from?
Just keep plugging away on here, other sites, with people you know, with people you meet. Some people are lost. They'll never wake up. They can't admit they made a mistake, they're too set in their ways, they're too afraid of the truth or they're paid shills. Forget about them. Don't worry about convincing everyone but still engage the debate. Somebody will see it and get the idea to do more research or maybe their on the fence or maybe they are aware but just need to know that there a other people out there like them. Every little bit helps.
Last major case I remember reading about of guys being willing to kill some halfway large number of their own people to achieve some end was the thing about SlicKKK KKKlintler, Izetbegovic, and their 5000 dead bodies.
Maybe you can refresh my memory. Remember back to 2009 when Obama took over. There is a country, probably the first one Obama meddled in, where the Obama admin was backing the Marxist who wanted to rewrite their Constitution. The marxist was chased out.
So much has happened since then, that I can’t remember which country that was.
Found it. Meddling in Honduras. That was the first inkling of what was to follow with the Obama regime.
Remember, the Obama regime pro claimed they would never meddle in the affairs of other countries. We know now that meant they planned to meddle constantly for their real purpose, the NWO.