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Posted on 03/15/2014 12:24:23 PM PDT by TitansAFC
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Rand Paul just did conservatives a huge favor by showing his hand. He just made the process of elimination so much simpler.
Consenrvatives have been softening their position for 50 years.....it will never be enough
He sure did...adios Rand
What Rand Paul apparently wants is for his supporters to define deviancy downward, eh?
When we abandon family values, government values fill the void.
Yeah, let’s continue to allow the left to rule social issues and change our culture like they have for the last 80 years. What’s the definition of insanity, again?
Too bad Paul sees turning American into Aztlan via a 30-million illegal alien amnesty as a “social issue”.
Then your tolerance is right where the perversionistas want it. Here in Delaware, it was maybe only 6 months after civil unions were legalized that serious bills for sodomarriage were submitted and considered.
It's been a huge winner at the political level with record numbers of pro-life laws being passed over the last couple of years at the state level. Liberal states can't even pass more laws making it easier to get an abortion.
Republicans can lose until hell freezes over or we head into a communist state (or better, a civil war, that prevents one from being established before I will ever vote for a Republican that supports abortion rights or gay marriage or refuses to stand up for religious freedom.
I'll glad support Huckabee or Santorum over someone like Paul that wants to abandon social issues.
I will not vote for an immoral person and whether you are pro-life or pro-murder tells me everything I need to know about the character of those that want me to vote for them.
The Pauls' are disgusting.
AT least they can speill...
My preference would be that laws against sodomy be enacted. Civil unions is that absolute limit of my tolerance. What business is it of mine if two people choose to enter into some civil contract?
Politics matter, fighting for conservative candidates matters.
“The same week, the Republican National Committee decided that it was time for the national party to wade back into the pro-life waters after a perceived hiatus from using it as a platform issue. A Resolution on Republican Pro-Life Strategy formally re-established abortion as a 2014 election issue for the party and seeks to push back on the war on women rhetoric that Democrats have made synonymous with the pro-life movement.
The RNC clearly believes once again that a prominent pro-life position plays well with voters. Perhaps the national party has taken note of whats happening at the state level. Twenty-four states enacted 53 anti-abortion measures in 2013 alone.
Research from the pro-choice Guttmacher Institute shows that in the last three years, states have enacted an unprecedented 205 different abortion restrictions. This was made possible by the fact that over half of the states in the union have pro-life governors and pro-life majorities in their legislatures.”
Great minds think alike? lol, :)
Randy needs to switch parties
His support for amnesty will bankrupt the country more than it already is
If it really interests you, then you need to learn how to win politically.
Voters decide, and social conservatives vote conservatively, social liberalism only leads to more big government, greedy, short range view, what's in it for me voting.
Social conservatives created this nation and it's economics, and it is the social liberal advances of the last 50 years that is making it impossible to maintain it.
And amnesty is a what?
Social issues do not affect my life directly. What affects my everyday life is monetary policies, tax policies and regulations imposed by the government. The other day
I witnessed two lesbians at Seatac airport openly doing
PDA. It was disgusting to watch, but what affected me
more directly was the taxes levied on my plane ticket.
I can ignore the lesbians, but not the taxes.
I tell you the democrats never had better friends than Rand, Marco, Bitch McConnell, Graham, AND Boner. AND MCCAIN.
Lol. The ones who think that is a compliment are on the wrong forum
And yet it is imposed by tyrannical federal judges and not the ballot box
When did Ted Cruz “turn out to be a sham” ??
>> I dont care much about social issues.
You care enough to mention it on a forum that spends quite a bit of time discussing social issues.
The argument could be made that Planned Parenthood is an effective, efficient abortion mill. This has financial value obviously omitting moral value.
The libertarian should certainly care about life in the womb, and be concerned about law that forces the citizens to service, sanction, and support homosexual behavior.
They want everyone else to be tolerant, they never promised tolerance when they win
>> Every Rand Paul supporter will tell you he’s a Conservative, not a Libertarian.
I’m a conservative libertarian. Rand is speaking like a Liberal.
We aren't shutting up.
We aren't giving up.
And we aren't selling out our principles because some Rino beltway bull$hi*ting consultants tell us that we should.
I'm not an expert in business law, but a civil union is not the same as a mere civil contract. Most contracts have some sort of a "sunset clause" regarding dissolving the contract after a certain period. And why should this civil union have the force of a marriage in matters of taxation, court testimony, inheritance, etc. that a contract would not provide?
I prefer not to live in a Sodom and Gamorrah just because it has a free market economy. And that free market economy would not last long in a immoral environment. We would be right back to crony capitalism and fascism.
tyranny at the state level is not any better
whether the tyrants are 1000 miles away or 30 makes no real difference outside a war to overthrow them
...The Republican Party must embrace more legal immigration.[Posted on 03/19/2013 7:04:07 AM PDT by Perdogg]
Unfortunately, like many of the major debates in Washington, immigration has become a stalemate-where both sides are imprisoned by their own rhetoric or attachment to sacred cows that prevent the possibility of a balanced solution.
Immigration Reform will not occur until Conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution. I am here today to begin that conversation.
Let's start that conversation by acknowledging we aren't going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants.
If you wish to work, if you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you...
This is where prudence, compassion and thrift all point us toward the same goal: bringing these workers out of the shadows and into being taxpaying members of society.
Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers.12 million more people assimilating into society. 12 million more people being productive contributors.
Latinos, should be a natural constituency for the party, Paul argued, but "Republicans have pushed them away with harsh rhetoric over immigration." ...he would create a bipartisan panel to determine how many visas should be granted for workers already in the United States and those who might follow... [and the buried lead] "Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers...[Posted on 04/21/2013 1:52:42 PM PDT by SoConPubbie]
Compromise today on one issue, they will be calling for compromise tomorrow on other issues...like fiscal policy or national defense.
I do kinda like Rand but do not want to see him run for President.
Rand is trying to be all things to all people. He’s getting too much face time and is going to screw up.
Thanks but NO THANKS.
No more RINO Mitt Romney candidates.
The US Constitution limits the Federal Government BOTH Fiscally & Socially. Social tyranny is just as bad if not worse than Fiscal tyranny and in my opinion the two are tied at the hip. The Left illegitimately employs social issues to amass power & redistribute resources & opportunity. Conservatives MUST oppose this onslaught head on.
The culture war between American Individual Liberty & Cultural Collective Marxism will not be won by surrendering to the Marxists.
Libertarianism, and naturally most libertarians, are pro-abortion.
It is dishonest to try and tell these folks that libertarianism is not a pro-abortion, pro-gay political movement.
There's the rub. IMHO the polls are just part of the propaganda machine. The real poll like the Prop #8 vote in California is a truer measure. Regardless, there are some things like self-evident truth & unalienable rights that are never legitimately subject to polling or rational moral relative scrutiny by courts. Mob rule is not a true measure of moral legitimacy.
Americans: The 2nd Amendment is not a fiscal issue; it's a social issue. In the face of a tyrannical mob, do we soften on this issue so we can 'win elections', gain our seats in an illegitimate government?
In terms of liberty he's wrong: Those customers and their handlers both vote for more of the welfare and police state.
The police state regulates the economy for the benefit of its principal benefactors: the tax-exempt foundations of the extremely rich, whose principal goal is to stay on top by killing a free market economy.
Hence, Rand Paul is a statist. Somebody ought to tell him.
....and here we go......................
>When we are forced to pay for other peoples birth control, forced to subsidize women who have out of wedlock children those are not just social but fiscal issues.
Yes, and if there had to be a choice, the safest, less expensive and less damaging to society would be preventing the birth of unwanted kids and stopping the welfare cycle.
Oy vey, how freeqin' ghey is that ? !
Wouldn’t it be even safer, cheaper and less damaging to our society if young, unwed women could see the advantage to keeping their knees together?
Not though all the stars fall from the heavens and all the mountains dissolve into the sea. Never.
It’s not dishonest for me to say that libertarianism is not pro homo, and not pro abortion. You can disagree, but please don’t imply that I’m a liar.
Your issue is with liberalism and the libertarians that embrace it. Other libertarians like me embrace conservatism.