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Progs start to realize the disaster ahead, but still are in denial
The American Thinker ^ | 15 Mar 14 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 03/15/2014 1:07:36 PM PDT by elhombrelibre

The progressive dream, of a benevolent state led by the best and the brightest caring for a grateful population unable to fend for itself, is dying a painful death. And it is starting to dawn on some of the smarter Democrats -- people like David Plouffe -- that they face an electoral Armageddon in November.

In an interview with Al Hunt broadcast aired last night on Bloomberg TV, former Obama adviser Plouffe:

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


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KEYWORDS: abortion; deathpanels; democratcare; donkeycare; jackasscare; obamacare; zerocare
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1 posted on 03/15/2014 1:07:36 PM PDT by elhombrelibre
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“Plouffe just cannot get himself to admit the obvious: that Obamacare, the Great Progressive Project, sold with lies and bribes, has become the Waterloo of the Left. Young people in particular have become angry and cynical over being treated as cash cows, after being promised that the hip, cool president had their backs. The reason they have a turnout problem is that they have demonstrated thjeir willingness to lie and exploit young people with Obamacare.”


2 posted on 03/15/2014 1:08:31 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free the USA.)
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To: elhombrelibre

“... after being promised that the hip, cool president had their backs.”

But Obama does have their backs. It’s called BOHICA!


3 posted on 03/15/2014 1:10:03 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Or Brokeback...


4 posted on 03/15/2014 1:12:00 PM PDT by null and void ( Obama is Law-Less because Republican "leaders" are BALL-LESS!!)
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To: elhombrelibre

May they deny the disaster about to hit them until the year 2025.


5 posted on 03/15/2014 1:12:04 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SandRat

Agree.


6 posted on 03/15/2014 1:13:00 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free the USA.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Obama killed the economy, left many destitute, hopeless, and homeless, and now they couldn’t begin to afford to buy 0’Care if they tried. His little experiment proved why socialism doesn’t work.


7 posted on 03/15/2014 1:14:14 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: elhombrelibre

“...Asking them to pay money to join a health-care exchange, it seems, is too tall an order — even though the presidency they created depends on it.”

Wow. Just f’ing wow.

A superpower reduced to its president trying to guilt-trip his base of “kid” voters to save his sorry ass.


8 posted on 03/15/2014 1:14:57 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: elhombrelibre

Denial? Perhaps.

It’s more likely that they are displaying confidence in their fraudulent election practices.


9 posted on 03/15/2014 1:14:59 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: elhombrelibre

The Democrats, liberals, and universal healthcare all going down in a heap of rubble. It’s all good for the country!


10 posted on 03/15/2014 1:15:03 PM PDT by dowcaet
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To: jsanders2001

If any group should be upset with Obama, it’s the young Americans who will see themselves inheriting all the debt, all the lost jobs, the consequences of lower pay because of cheap and illegal labor. If they ever wake up, the whole Democrat Party is in deep trouble.


11 posted on 03/15/2014 1:16:04 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free the USA.)
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To: jsanders2001

Yep. I just got rejected by the California version of Ocare...


12 posted on 03/15/2014 1:19:09 PM PDT by null and void ( Obama is Law-Less because Republican "leaders" are BALL-LESS!!)
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To: elhombrelibre
And it is starting to dawn on some of the smarter Democrats -- people like David Plouffe -- that they face an electoral Armageddon in November.

The author is totally wrong. Liberals face a landslide in their favor, if they will campaign on ObamaCare, emphasize that it is doing exactly what it was designed to do, and that they are proud of what they accomplished. I hope they will all take Pelosi's advice and stand proud in their support of this fundamental transformation of what used to be a free country.

13 posted on 03/15/2014 1:19:39 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: elhombrelibre

> If they ever wake up, the whole Democrat Party is in deep trouble.

Not only am I seeing that very thing lately, I’m seeing direct evidence of it on a personal level everywhere.


14 posted on 03/15/2014 1:19:49 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: dowcaet

The trouble is they are taking the rest of us down with them. What’s been down will be almost impossible to undo no matter what happens in November.


15 posted on 03/15/2014 1:20:38 PM PDT by Vinylly
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To: elhombrelibre

Doing my best Hillary impersonation “At this point, what difference does it make?”


16 posted on 03/15/2014 1:20:47 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: elhombrelibre

The Progressive Fantasy World is like one of those online games where you invent for yourself the life that you want to lead. The only problem is that real life is not a fantasy and you can’t wish problems away with a never ending mesh of lies. The bills are coming due and the Progressive Fantasy checkbook is empty.


17 posted on 03/15/2014 1:23:22 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: elhombrelibre

Don’t get cocky, guys. I’ve seen such “we can’t lose, they can’t win” rhetoric before - then ended up with the Obama ... twice.


18 posted on 03/15/2014 1:24:08 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Decieving rats try to sell the young like they did the blacks. Only the blacks still believe because thier stuck on color.


19 posted on 03/15/2014 1:24:48 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (Zippy the a##clown sez..............)
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To: elhombrelibre

I’m an ancient cynic. I’ll believe these nitwits that elected our Freedom Destroyer In Chief will desert him only after they actively vote for his demise.


20 posted on 03/15/2014 1:25:03 PM PDT by stevem
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To: elhombrelibre

“The progressive dream, of a benevolent state”

That is an oxymoron. Government indifference flowers into corruption, and the process is directly proportional to the size of government. Bloat, waste and inefficiency grow exponentially. The more money a government takes, the greater the thirst for more money. It’s an insatiable spiral that eventually consumes all.


21 posted on 03/15/2014 1:26:12 PM PDT by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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Call me a pessimist, and other bad names. But I believe our system has been sufficiently corrupted, that I don’t believe our electoral process anymore. We will continuously go further left, and even if the powers that be make elections look real by occasionally letting rinos win from time to time, it is irrelevant because they will just be rinos placating the right but working on purely leftest goals


22 posted on 03/15/2014 1:28:25 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: null and void
null and void said: "Yep. I just got rejected by the California version of Ocare..."

How does that happen? They won't take your money?

23 posted on 03/15/2014 1:28:46 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: jsanders2001

Correct,plus any senior that votes Dem. is voting for their own demise!


24 posted on 03/15/2014 1:30:50 PM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: jsanders2001

Socialism and communism has never created prosperity for the general public. Only the politicians and their cronies get rich under socialism. China is one heckuva example. Starting from grinding poverty under Mao-Tse-Tung, it now has over a million new millionaires. And soon to be the largest economy in the world.


25 posted on 03/15/2014 1:31:51 PM PDT by entropy12 (If you did not vote, you helped elect the community organizer from south side of Chicago.)
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To: William Tell
No idea. I think they ran the numbers, figured out that I don't actually have any money for them to steal charge me, and referred me over to Medi-Cal (who hasn't contacted me yet...
26 posted on 03/15/2014 1:35:07 PM PDT by null and void ( Obama is Law-Less because Republican "leaders" are BALL-LESS!!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Why would they not be in denial about it — they’ve engineered the disaster we’re in RIGHT NOW, and don’t even acknowledge that it exists. Thnks elhombrelibre.


27 posted on 03/15/2014 1:35:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: null and void

yOu are an idiot for giving them your information, what is your problem


28 posted on 03/15/2014 1:38:52 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: jsanders2001

>> I’m seeing direct evidence of it on a personal level everywhere.<<

Please elaborate. The more the better...*s*


29 posted on 03/15/2014 1:40:32 PM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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To: ctdonath2
"Don’t get cocky, guys. I’ve seen such “we can’t lose, they can’t win” rhetoric before - then ended up with the Obama ... twice."

Agree; never underestimate the GOPe's ability to earn the moniker The Stupid Party, or to actively work for the Democrats.

30 posted on 03/15/2014 1:40:41 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: elhombrelibre

I can’t wait to watch them frothing at the mouth when we take the senate back. I’m going to go out and get a bottle of Bushmill’s Black and sip some whiskey and watch the seed of satan self implode. :-)


31 posted on 03/15/2014 1:41:18 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: elhombrelibre

...which is why they’re trying to pivot on “income inequality” and sodomy....and it is working with some....a glance at a friend’s facebook page (I don’t do that crap) shows how brain dead even some of Obama’s “non-base” demographics are falling for the sodomy and income inequality nonsense.

We are tipped.

Only a spiritual awakening can turn America around, and that is up to the Lord. He may be finished with this nation and ready to have His next Great Awakening happen in China or Africa.


32 posted on 03/15/2014 1:49:07 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: elhombrelibre
What went wrong? The president and his aides failed to keep his youth movement engaged. But part of the problem also is the inability of the millennial generation to remain attached to a cause. The generation that brought Obama to power is connected online but has no loyalty to institutions — including, it turns out, the Obama White House

Attached to cause?

LOL...they thought it was FREE...

Now they see they are the "other people" paying for it...

They are unattached ? No, they aren't dupes like the administration thinks they are...

33 posted on 03/15/2014 1:55:03 PM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Norseman

>> I’m seeing direct evidence of it on a personal level everywhere.<<

Please elaborate. The more the better...*s*

Comments made by my son’s liberal (now formerly liberal) friends, young people at my church, young people at Walmart, two former big-time Obama supporters; one actually campaigned for him, among others. In the past week I’ve had two in their late twenties ask me how they could join the Tea Party, if they accepted younger members, how much it cost, etc...

That’s refreshing especially the former Obama supporters. If you look online there are murmurs and complaints about him by the younger crows everywhere. Obamacare, designed to enslave the common man, will be the catalyst that frees him...sort of sounds like turning that meant for evil into good...


34 posted on 03/15/2014 1:55:23 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001
Obama killed the economy, left many destitute, hopeless, and homeless, and now they couldn’t begin to afford to buy 0’Care if they tried. His little experiment proved why socialism doesn’t work.

That's why they call it "Obama-nation"

35 posted on 03/15/2014 1:55:51 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: elhombrelibre
LIV: Where muh 40-ounce?

DNC: There's an election in Nov.

LIV: Obama runnin'?

DNC: No. But we need your vote.

LIV: Ok. Where muh 40-ounce?

DNC on Nov. 5: Where were you for yesterday's vote?

LIV on Nov. 5: Lookin' fo muh 40-ounce. Founnit, too. Want another. Got one? Obama still President?

DNC: Yes.

LIV: Cool. Where muh 40-ounce?

36 posted on 03/15/2014 1:56:14 PM PDT by Tonytitan
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To: Vinylly

Very true my friend, but we have to start somewhere and defeating the Democrats and all their liberal allies is step number one.


37 posted on 03/15/2014 1:57:58 PM PDT by dowcaet
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To: VanDeKoik

“A superpower reduced to its president trying to guilt-trip his base of “kid” voters to save his sorry ass.”

It is the most disgusting, vile game of politics I’ve ever witnessed in my 62 years. Let’s hope some of these kids have learned their lesson with this dalliance with communism.


38 posted on 03/15/2014 1:57:58 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: jsanders2001

Socialism is a luxury only the very wealthy can afford.


39 posted on 03/15/2014 2:00:59 PM PDT by Argus
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To: elhombrelibre
I hope the younger generation is finally realizing how selfish Obama, Pelosi, and Reid really were. Obamacare was always about stealing from the young and old in order to pay for the conveniences of the powerful.

-PJ

40 posted on 03/15/2014 2:06:26 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Spok

I agree with you that it’s an oxymoron, and I agree with the author of the line. That is, the left believes in a “benevolent state.” What they don’t get or don’t understand is that the state is just people doing their jobs, and when people have power they become, in the the great phrase of Lord Acton, corrupted - “Power corrupts. Absolute Power corrupts absolutely.”


41 posted on 03/15/2014 2:14:04 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free the USA.)
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To: null and void

Maybe they’ve read your contributions on FR and just decided you don’t qualify for medical care. Of course, you’d have to be some kind of nutjob conspiracy theorist to believe something like that.


42 posted on 03/15/2014 2:14:42 PM PDT by paint_your_wagon
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To: paint_your_wagon

Perhaps. Not much of a hardship, I haven’t had insurance for 6 or 7 years now.


43 posted on 03/15/2014 2:19:28 PM PDT by null and void ( Obama is Law-Less because Republican "leaders" are BALL-LESS!!)
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To: elhombrelibre

The longer they stay in denial the better our chances at winning more seats. Hopefully by Tea Party type conservatives.


44 posted on 03/15/2014 2:20:22 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: ctdonath2
Don’t get cocky, guys. I’ve seen such “we can’t lose, they can’t win” rhetoric before - then ended up with the Obama ... twice.

Dittos. They'll probably support the next Democrat (Hillary?) who promises them something for nothing.

45 posted on 03/15/2014 2:33:42 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: dowcaet
I worry that these young fools won't suffer bad enough to learn a lesson from their stupidity. There is a good chance they will be duped again by the next filthy lowlife who promises them the gifts of hope and change.
46 posted on 03/15/2014 2:35:17 PM PDT by peeps36 (I'm Not A Racist, I Hate Douchebags of All Colors)
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To: jsanders2001
"His little experiment proved why socialism doesn't work. "

Venezuela proves why socialism doesn't work. Greece proves why socialism doesn't work. Spain proves why socialism doesn't work. The British NHS and it's health rationing and death panels proves why socialism doesn't work. Cuba proves why socialism doesn't work. The old Soviet Union proves why socialism doesn't work.

Why does not anyone on our side ever try to explain to the people that "free chit" from the government comes at a tremendous price?- i. e. I was just reading an article about Venezuela where it said the people are stamped with a number and herded into line to receive their food ration from the government.-How awful.

Has anyone asked the people here, depending on the free stuff, what they will do when it runs out? They can ask the people of Greece about it.

Why would anyone want the government to control them? Especially considering the politicians who would rule them have no intention of living by the same restrictions they would enforce on the people. In fact they have already exempted themselves from their own laws.

Why would you give up the freedom to make your own decisions for your own lives America?

Why?!

47 posted on 03/15/2014 2:36:51 PM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Collectivists will never admit that any disaster either exists or is due to their economic model. If anything, they will always call for more of the same.


48 posted on 03/15/2014 2:50:49 PM PDT by lurk
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To: lurk

I agree. They blame the Republicans for the poverty in the cities and the collapse of places like Detroit; they never accept accountability for their own failed policies, corruption, crime, or anything with negative impacts.


49 posted on 03/15/2014 2:52:18 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free the USA.)
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To: yldstrk

It was an add-on for getting food stamps. *sigh*

My “problem” is despite the thousand of resumes and cover letters, despite years of intensive networking, despite calling in and doing hundreds of favors, my industry has proven utterly incapable of finding me or any of the hundreds of thousands of unemployed American engineers, and “our” congress has seen fit to import yet another 85,000 H-1Bs this year to fill all those jobs that we could do, if only we existed.


50 posted on 03/15/2014 3:09:33 PM PDT by null and void ( Obama is Law-Less because Republican "leaders" are BALL-LESS!!)
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